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meatloaf-unofficial
25 Jul 2007, 12:58
I am not sure again, whether I can post this, but it isn't anything to do with Meat.... (well kinda)

Patti Russo : The Website features a gallery and is calling for fans to send in their photos to be included in the gallery.....

Please visit it if you wish to look round the site and to maybe send in your photos... The more the better :D

PattiRusso.co.uk (http://www.pattirusso.co.uk)


Please delete this thread if this is not allowed to be on!! If so, I will say sorry in advance! Please forgive...

Deb
25 Jul 2007, 13:38
The sites looking good Ross :cool:

LostSoul
25 Jul 2007, 22:53
Am I the only one having trouble with it?

Monstro
25 Jul 2007, 22:54
Am I the only one having trouble with it?

Dr could help you with that lol

Monstro
26 Jul 2007, 00:27
Am I the only one who gets nothing when I click on gallery?

SamCat
26 Jul 2007, 00:32
A Dr could help you with that!!

MeatGrl1
26 Jul 2007, 00:50
I get 'A problem loading page' message.
Then it tells me that there is an error :?.

meatloaf-unofficial
26 Jul 2007, 10:16
right - answers are here :-):-(

Since last night I have been getting a message when I type in the url saying : Index of, white page.... I rang up the company who my domain is registered with (1and1.co.uk) and said that he could see the site fine....how strange!! I will try ringing them today....

As far as the gallery goes, try this link, http://pattirusso.freehostia.com/gallery/ untill the pattirusso.co.uk is up - can anyone else acess the site fine by typing inthe pattirusso.co.uk? or is it just me the owner of the site having trouble seeing it!??!

I will keep you posted on the news of the site and I am sorry, I feel so embarrased, this has not happeneded to me before with domains etc....

MeatGrl1
26 Jul 2007, 10:54
Don't feel embarrassed Ross, it's not your fault that the domain isn't behaving in the way you want it to, I just hope that the matter get's resolved soon because I believe it'll be an amazing site when that technical hitch has been dealt with :)). Wow the galleries are so awesome with this tempory link you've given, Thanks.

meatloaf-unofficial
26 Jul 2007, 10:58
Everything seems to be working fine after a long tele call and partly undertsnading the guy on the other side ofthe phone:lol:

If any of you lot are having problems, please let me know!
pattirusso.co.uk is now working again!

LostSoul
28 Jul 2007, 14:57
Dr could help you with that lol
What is 'that'? :))

Still not working for me... :?


Pa†ricia

meatloaf-unofficial
29 Jul 2007, 11:29
What is 'that'? :))

Still not working for me... :?


Pa†ricia

well it seems to be working for me anyhow.... if thats the problems like the guy said to me from the technical depart. - he said that the pc your using the the internet conncection isn't conncecting to the IP address of the domain... I got it to work after clicking on repair my router (I have the Orange LiveBox) - if in doubt contact your broadband provider and ask them maybe??:D

LostSoul
29 Jul 2007, 12:32
Some links work others not... weird. :|


Pa†ricia

AndrewG
29 Jul 2007, 19:23
Well anything that promotes Patti I would usually support however if anyone cares to hear my opinion (which many probably won't - so stop reading here): sorry to say but I am slightly unimpressed to be honest. These 4 photos are available on other Patti Russo websites already and the bio is mostly taken from the "oh Darling" website. I also hope that when the time comes that Patti herself wants to do something with the domain pattirusso.co.uk you will co-operate with her on that. I just think she deserves better than a free hosted site. Hope the site's reliability problems get sorted though, it only worked once for me.
Don't get me wrong, making a website is a complex task, certainly for 1 person and I appreciate the effort here to promote Patti and her music :D. I just think the domain pattirusso.co.uk should point to something more official ("The Website" ? :?) , even if it just redirected to her myspace for now.

meatloaf-unofficial
29 Jul 2007, 22:54
Well anything that promotes Patti I would usually support however if anyone cares to hear my opinion (which many probably won't - so stop reading here): sorry to say but I am slightly unimpressed to be honest. These 4 photos are available on other Patti Russo websites already and the bio is mostly taken from the "oh Darling" website. I also hope that when the time comes that Patti herself wants to do something with the domain pattirusso.co.uk you will co-operate with her on that. I just think she deserves better than a free hosted site. Hope the site's reliability problems get sorted though, it only worked once for me.
Don't get me wrong, making a website is a complex task, certainly for 1 person and I appreciate the effort here to promote Patti and her music :D. I just think the domain pattirusso.co.uk should point to something more official ("The Website" ? :?) , even if it just redirected to her myspace for now.

Can I say something please??...... I have only put up a few pics and yes that are widly available but I am wanting YOU, fans of Patti Russo to help out on the site by supporting her, by sending in your photos of her with you, or general photos that are okay to be on the site, after all I am asking as it is copyright etc....

Yes, the bio, some of it maybe on the Oh Darling website but I read in one tourbook and got it...... so I think I am allowed to have it and I have edited it aswell to suit me:D

The pattirusso.co.uk, if Patti wanted it I would probally talk to her about it and maybe come up with something, after all I would love to have the opertunity to work with her on a website....... Who wouldn't?? I love to mess around on webiste programmes and try and create a better site than my last one:D

For now this is a fan run site and I would like as I said before, you the fans to be involved in the site by you sending in pictures, clippings etc....... Please:D:D:D

I hope this answers questions Andrew..... Freehostia is a hosting company that, yes you can get free hosting accounts but also you can pay for them too!!!

I hope you all like the site and I try to do my best a making it a great site..... I am no EXPERT, yet at web creation but I like to learn on the job, even if I learn by my mistakes like I have in the past as some of you may know!

djfierce
29 Jul 2007, 23:23
Yes, the bio, some of it maybe on the Oh Darling website but I read in one tourbook and got it...... so I think I am allowed to have it and I have edited it aswell to suit me:D

umm just cos it was in a tour book and you edited it slightly, it doesnt mean you can have it, no offense mate but that idea doesnt sit right with me.

The pattirusso.co.uk, if Patti wanted it I would probally talk to her about it and maybe come up with something, after all I would love to have the opertunity to work with her on a website....... Who wouldn't?? I love to mess around on webiste programmes and try and create a better site than my last one:D

i think what Andrew meant is would you give the domain name over or try to sell it, also no offence but i think she would employ a proffessional group to run her site. A .co.uk name does suggest a proffesional,official site. (correct me if i'm wrong Andrew)

For now this is a fan run site and I would like as I said before, you the fans to be involved in the site by you sending in pictures, clippings etc....... Please:D:D:D

For now?


i'm not picking a fight by any means but Patti has her myspace and there are other very good sites dedicated to her from people who follow her in person and can give more information more accurately.

meatloaf-unofficial
29 Jul 2007, 23:33
umm just cos it was in a tour book and you edited it slightly, it doesnt mean you can have it, no offense mate but that idea doesnt sit right with me.



i think what Andrew meant is would you give the domain name over or try to sell it, also no offence but i think she would employ a proffessional group to run her site. A .co.uk name does suggest a proffesional,official site. (correct me if i'm wrong Andrew)



For now?


i'm not picking a fight by any means but Patti has her myspace and there are other very good sites dedicated to her from people who follow her in person and can give more information more accurately.

I guess I have alot of explaining to do.. thats okay with me....

a) I heard from a friendthat it was okay to take info from a tour book - he did web design by the way...

b) I would give it to her.... I wouldn't want someone who I was a BIG Fan off.... paying me for a domain name that hers name (if that makes sence).. she can have it!!!!

c) I am not trying to be an official site..... all I am doing is a fansite and fansite only! Your coorect, she would use a pro web design company or work with Susi as thats the official site now..... and I like that, Patti Rocks is a great site and I am not trying to take Susi's hard work away from her, I hope she understand that if she read this thread.....

Finally, I am not trying to be snubby about this, all I want to do is create a site, (a forum like this webiste, but I dodn't have the knowlege to install the scripts needed for this site, so its turned out more of a site about her with a forum thats dedicated to her) where we can talk about Patti, a place where her work is not forgotton about...

I hope a few if not all of you agree with me now..... I want to create Patti Russo: The Website, better than Meat Loaf Unofficial - by the way, ML Unofficial has now closed its doors.....

Lastly, I am sorry if I have upset you, I didn't set out to upset anyone at all!!!

djfierce
29 Jul 2007, 23:59
no offence but web design doesnt teach you about copyright.

And iwasnt talking about Susie rather someone you have been speaking to,and these are not your words i know this. Nobody is getting at you just pointing out where the misunderstandings are. So you sre no longer doing anything for Meat? :? just noticed your last sentence that's all.

Sapphire Lady
30 Jul 2007, 00:02
I would have thought that if Patti decides to set up an "official" site in the future she will want pattirusso.com, not pattirusso.co.uk

meatloaf-unofficial
30 Jul 2007, 00:08
no offence but web design doesnt teach you about copyright.

And iwasnt talking about Susie rather someone you have been speaking to,and these are not your words i know this. Nobody is getting at you just pointing out where the misunderstandings are. So you sre no longer doing anything for Meat? :? just noticed your last sentence that's all.

well not just yet but I might in the future - would you like me to continue ML Unofficial??..... oh and some web desiners do teach copyright, I helped out for my school webiste and the fiorst thing we got given on a sheet of paper was the laws of copyright etc....

I would have thought that if Patti decides to set up an "official" site in the future she will want pattirusso.com, not pattirusso.co.uk

well pattirusso.com is taken so you never know what she is planning:D:D

I hope she does create a website with whoever she choose, it would be cool!

AndrewG
30 Jul 2007, 01:02
I believe .co.uk only recently became available. Whoever owned it before let it expire.

AndrewG
30 Jul 2007, 01:13
i think what Andrew meant is would you give the domain name over or try to sell it, also no offence but i think she would employ a proffessional group to run her site. A .co.uk name does suggest a proffesional,official site. (correct me if i'm wrong Andrew)

Well the co.uk just indicates a company based in UK, but there have been many legal cases people trying to get their named domain back for instance Bruce Springsteen has ended up with .net and not .com because some dumbass refused to hand it over. He was probably offered a bit of cash for it too but it turned into a court case and the owner won. I find it a load of bollocks when you look at brucespringsteen.com now, there's nothing there. Great use of that domain name. :roll:
Luckily with the emphasis on search engines now it less of a problem but say 8-10 years ago this kinda stuff was a real pain in the ass I thought, you'd simply expect the .co.uk or .com of a famous person name to be the official site.

djfierce
30 Jul 2007, 08:53
well many artists have a worldwide fanclub which would be .com or .net and and have uk fanclubs (or for other countries) when they have a bigger fan base in that country so it isn't as ridiculous or as mean to Ross as it sounds. No body is getting at Ross just asking questions now that could be asked later before he puts alot of work into.

LucyK!
30 Jul 2007, 10:23
I think the point is that that if this is to be the "official" site then it needs something that none of the Patti Russo fansites have...at the minute it's a great site and that's it...

Don't get me wrong, my internet knowledge is distinctly lacking, my skills stretch about as far as sending email so I certainly couldn't have put this together, but perhaps it's lacking the something special that raises it above the fan sites to truly be called the Official site...

meatloaf-unofficial
30 Jul 2007, 10:32
I think the point is that that if this is to be the "official" site then it needs something that none of the Patti Russo fansites have...at the minute it's a great site and that's it...

Don't get me wrong, my internet knowledge is distinctly lacking, my skills stretch about as far as sending email so I certainly couldn't have put this together, but perhaps it's lacking the something special that raises it above the fan sites to truly be called the Official site...

That something speacial hasn't come to me yet... and I don't know if it will..... as some of you know, building a site can take years as you like to add to it, change stuff and this site is far from finished!!:D

LucyK!
30 Jul 2007, 10:34
Well hopefully it'll come to you quickly given you're using co.uk! :up:

AndrewG
30 Jul 2007, 13:51
No offence but I don't think you can underestimate the knowledge/experience of (web) designers who have studied design and do that stuff for a living. Hands up I can't do deisgn but I can program sites ok.
This is where an offical site should I think and normally does differs from fan sites: class design and custom built functionality which is for example more work than using existing web "plug ins/scripts" such as the gallery plug in you have used. At my work we often have teams of 3-4 people working on single sites so that it comes together nicely but would be a tremendous amount of work for 1 individual.

Sapphire Lady
30 Jul 2007, 14:38
As far as I can see, Ross isn't claiming that it's an official site and I don't really understand why people seem to be upset/annoyed by it. It's a very good site which is still being developed and I think Patti would be pleased if she saw it.