View Full Version : Study In America - Help!
meatloaf-unofficial
12 Aug 2007, 16:21
Hi all
I was wanting some help, maybe those who live in the US would be more help, I don't know...
I was thinking, I am in ym last year now at school (finish summer 200eight) and when I leave school I want to go to Uni/college to study; Theatre Lighting...
Now, I did think about Edinburgh but then I thought, why not the US, study Abroad.. Many students are studying internationally nowerdays... - thought of living and studying in the US would be cool!
the thing is I am having trouble finding US Universities?Colleges that do my cource I am lookig for or similar and take International people - or cource you need a Visa, I would try and apply for one...
So can any of you help me out? do you know of any places in the US that might do my cource? I tried google'ing it but it seems to prove to be a hard researcher!:D
Post and let me know or pm or email me :-)
Thanks
Ross
I'm not american, but i remember when I was finishing school and thinking about how great it would be to do my degree studies in the states. First off, it's not easy, as i'm sure you are aware. Money wise, the applying process, getting the visa etc.
My one suggestion before really looking into doing this is to ask yourself what are you benefitting from. If this course can only be done in america, then fair enough, you can't do anymore about it; go! But if you can do it here, work out whether it's going to be more beneficial for you here or in america. My guess is that it's much better here...but thats your decision! :)
Good luck
tinkerbell
12 Aug 2007, 17:11
Very cool, but very expensive. Did look into it for my son but was going cost 3 times as much for fees. On that basis alone with living expenses aswell, made more sense to study in England. But im sure there may be away to do it if your determined. Good luck.
RadioMaster
12 Aug 2007, 17:12
another important factor is the money. I had this originally in mind as well, a few years ago, and (at least for me) it would be a hell of a lot expensive.
edit: Didnt seen heli already mentioning money, sorry
edit nr 2: and dympna
As well as the money situation, the application process for a visa is very strict. They want prrof that you can support yourself, and that means getting a part-time job, but that is taking a job away from an American, and they don't want that. No harm in trying though, and if you do proceed, good luck. :D
meatloaf-unofficial
12 Aug 2007, 18:37
I know - the money etc.. with a visa in mind too... I just thought that aswell as studying out there, I could get a feel for the life style as I have always wanted to see what it is like living in the US....
In my eyes; you only have one chance to live so why not make the most. I know it is a gamble but it may be do me right to do it!
More research for me! I know that, it maybe hard to do, but guess we'll see ;-)
It's not easy to find the right college/University in America. We have to struggle through books and books to find the right one. Courses vary wildly but some are more technical/mathematical and some are more in humanitarian arts which you need.
This is one of the books that is commonly used in America when looking for college:
http://www.amazon.com/College-Board-Handbook-2008/dp/0874477832/ref=sr_1_1/104-2883358-0087924?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186937044&sr=1-1
This is an official publication of College Board and it lists statistics of colleges, etc.
Another resource would be:
http://www.collegeboard.com/splash/
At this point there are some advantages - pound is way over twice the dollar - so there should be some benefit to that.
Education is pretty expensive even for us - so don't know how much they charge a foreign person considering the fact that even we ourselves go out of state we pay sometimes 4 times as what we pay in State.
Did you look into student exchange programs? Is there something in it?
Afraid can't help anymore but if you have any specific questions that I might be able to look up, let me know...
Forgot an important thing...
Be EXTREMELY careful...we have a lot of DODGY colleges...basically places that call themselves colleges but they are nothing but some secretarial or car mechanic schools and don't have any system of accreditation...that's why the book above or College Board...if the college isn't listed...it's not a real thing...
RadioMaster
12 Aug 2007, 19:01
correct me, if I'm wrong (what I'll probably be, lol)
But, isnt college in the US something different than College in the UK?
What I mean is: Dont you need a 12th grade graduation to access college in the States?
I'm not sure, but it came to mind.
Right, our colleges here in the UK is the US's highschool...well there last years (Seniors?). And our Universities is there Colleges. i think thats right.
The basic difference between colleges and universities in the US is that a college only offers degrees up to Bachelor's - no grad school leading to Ph.D. degrees. Universities offer all degrees - Bachelor's, Master's and Ph.D.s.
Blackkat13
13 Aug 2007, 05:52
I don't know but there are a few colleges you can look up there in michigan but look up......
University of Michigan
University of Michigan State
Saginaw Valley
Again I don't go to college but I do know UofM does have a threather department. Again most sates have a university of what ever state...you could try New York or Califoria. I hope this helps out a small bit just look up most colleges and they will tell you.
(Haven't read the whole thread so apologies if I'm repeating anything...)
But you might be better off looking at Uni's here in the UK who are associated with Uni's abroad and you can go via them, as it were...
My best friend, Helen, completed her Mechanical Engineering degree in Georgia having started it in Glasgow
Pudding
13 Aug 2007, 11:52
Go to school in the UK and then go for work experience in the US :up:
Pud :twisted:
Yeah, I guess we do have different system of education but yes you can get only up to Bachelor's in college which is definitely not a high school diploma.
However, we do have dodgy universities too...:lmao:
Go to school in the UK and then go for work experience in the US :up:
Pud :twisted:
I think getting student visa is easier than work visa...
Apologies if this sounds patronising, it's not meant to! :p
Rather than going to the US for the experience of working, I think Pud meant to go there for "work experience" which is a system here whereby you go off to a business, school etc and experience what it's like to be a part of that, but you do it whilst still studying at your Uni/college...so I'm sure it'd still be a student visa as you've not graduated yet
Apologies if this sounds patronising, it's not meant to! :p
Rather than going to the US for the experience of working, I think Pud meant to go there for "work experience" which is a system here whereby you go off to a business, school etc and experience what it's like to be a part of that, but you do it whilst still studying at your Uni/college...so I'm sure it'd still be a student visa as you've not graduated yet
No, no patronizing at all...I just don't know too much about that thing - "work experience"...don't know anybody who's done it...
Oh yes, I think I do...we call it internship here...is that it???
Still know only Americans who did that...
Yeah an internship, I knew there was an American term for it but it completely escaped me!
Having said that...we do have a lot of British owned companies here and a lot of British people working here...so I guess anything is possible...
Yeah an internship, I knew there was an American term for it but it completely escaped me!
OK...yes, we do have internships...some paid and some unpaid...obviously unpaid ones are easier to get...I believe one can apply to them through college and on their own too...
Some internships are counted as courses for certain degrees...
And as internship goes we do need an expert here which I am not...most jobs at the theater/movies are Union...which pretty much might eliminate possibility of an internship...
meatloaf-unofficial
13 Aug 2007, 19:56
thanks for all your help - I have learned wuite abit from you lot.... I will look at the above resources Mszee....
thanks for all your help - I have learned wuite abit from you lot.... I will look at the above resources Mszee....
Good luck!!!
Pudding
14 Aug 2007, 00:02
Apologies if this sounds patronising, it's not meant to! :p
Rather than going to the US for the experience of working, I think Pud meant to go there for "work experience" which is a system here whereby you go off to a business, school etc and experience what it's like to be a part of that, but you do it whilst still studying at your Uni/college...so I'm sure it'd still be a student visa as you've not graduated yet
That's what I meant. I think American's call it an internship or something like that, a bit like what Monica Lewinsky was, but I wouln't expect Ross to be doing anything dodgy with a Cuban cigar :shock:
Pud :twisted:
...a bit like what Monica Lewinsky was, but I wouln't expect Ross to be doing anything dodgy with a Cuban cigar :shock:
Well you know...each to their own! :lol:
meatloaf-unofficial
14 Aug 2007, 11:19
well look at this: I think this is the one - maybe there might be some place in other parts of the US that do this cource too...
Its based In Orlando and is a Show production and touring cource. teaches you everything...
link here: what do you thinkof that! you can't say that doesn't sound good :-) http://fullsail.com/flash/index.cfm?degree=show-production-and-touring
There's even video clips to show you what the cource is about and what students have done in the past :-) sounds fun!
But have you checked you're suitably qualified for them to accept you?
meatloaf-unofficial
14 Aug 2007, 11:41
I emailed them a day or so ago and this woman emailed back saying that she has sent a catalogue in the post for me... I emailed her back saying the qualification etc....
its early days yet! might not happen.
OK...this looks like a Associate degree course at most...associate degree is a 2 year college or what is commonly known as Junior College...don't know if it's accredited - you have to look it up on collegeboard.com. But it certainly isn't a college or a university...actually more like a trade school.
Again...don't want to talk about things I don't know but it looks a bit...ummm...
meatloaf-unofficial
14 Aug 2007, 17:05
will check that out! Mszee
RadioMaster
14 Aug 2007, 17:28
and I thought OUR educational system was complicated!
I think most European systems are less complicated and for the most part better...
RadioMaster
14 Aug 2007, 19:24
the German system is very complicated, trust me.
Claire asked me once, I'm not sure if she got it yet. lol
Hypnobabe
14 Aug 2007, 22:48
the German system is very complicated, trust me.
Claire asked me once, I'm not sure if she got it yet. lol
Lol.. thanks for that vote of confidence, RJ... I found a lovely 45 page long PDF file I can send you so you can figure it out, if you like?
Pudding
15 Aug 2007, 06:08
I think you're going to have to record and flog a few more 99p songs to afford to go ;)
Pud :twisted:
Lord Kagan
15 Aug 2007, 21:29
Would you not have to do American SATs?
Not if he is an exchange student...and I think they do accept the other countries credentials...there are special services that evaluate your credentials and give you what the American Equivalent of those documents is...depending on that evaluation student services help you with your courses to complete degree..which I don't think he wants...he just wants to study for a while...
Pudding
15 Aug 2007, 23:58
I think some Commonwealth countries have reciprocal agreements for studying abroad. So instead of America, maybe Canada or Australia.
Pud :twisted:
meatloaf-unofficial
16 Aug 2007, 11:20
I think you're going to have to record and flog a few more 99p songs to afford to go ;)
Pud :twisted:
well, I am in the middle of recording more (some writtren by my good friend/songwriter and some I have written).... I also have plans for my first album, and if all goes well, it could be out for christmas if not before.... but nothing certain just yet..:D
I think you're going to have to record and flog a few more 99p songs to afford to go ;)
Pud :twisted:
I understood it, honestly! :p
vBulletin® v3.8.10, Copyright ©2000-2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.