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Pudding
06 Jun 2008, 01:19
Just read this and nearly barfed :barf:
The minimum meat content of a pork sausage is only 42%. The equivalent figures for most other sausages are around 30%.
The definition of meat is based on new regulations which came into force in 2003. Broadly, pork can contain up to 30% fat and 25% connective tissue and still be described as meat. Beef and lamb meat can contain up to 25% fat and 25% connective tissue.
The minimum meat content of a burger is much higher at 67% (or 50% for economy burgers).
So use your loaf and check the meat content before buying.
Pud :twisted:
djfierce
06 Jun 2008, 01:49
yep unfortunatly its true, i used to eat loads of sausages before i saw a report on it a couple of years ago, now if i have sausages i buy a from a company called 'the black farmer' 100% pork meat, the difference in taste is amazing, theyre bloody expensive though so dont have them too often.It's just another reminder to read the label.
They are taste testing sausages on This Morning tomorrow(Friday) and one lot cost 2p each, which is slightly worrying!!
Pudding
06 Jun 2008, 02:40
I'd rather pay twice as much for a good sausage than buy cheap and end up with gut rot :shit:
Pud :twisted:
wolfy35
06 Jun 2008, 02:50
Richard Hammond did a good program about sausages a bit ago in the "Should I worry about" series. He had sausages from loads of places like supermarkets, hospitals, schools and butchers tested.
Two things that came out of it surprised me most.
The sausage that was supplied to the NHS as standard was the lowest meat content and the highest levels of fat salt and rusk. Of the 30% meat in this sausage only 10% was what I would recognise as meat the rest was skin or mechanically recovered.
Other slightly surprising bit was the cheapest sausage (supermarket own budget brand) had the 2nd highest meat content but the lowest levels of fat and salt.
Agree with everything said here! I saw the Jamie Oliver thing last year about the sausages and it really bothered me, and a few years before I think it was Gillian McKeith (pardon the spelling, the divvy one from You Are What You Eat) who gave a rather graphic description of what's in burgers...killed me! Couldn't eat them for months!!
I really can't stand anything other than 'proper' meat though, I can't stand the thought of the fat in my mouth :? Up in the NE my Mum now only buys sausages from a butcher that sells only fresh meat...in fact if you go past at the right time of day you can still see the animals out the back :shock: Like Anji says, expensive but well worth it
RadioMaster
06 Jun 2008, 12:02
the ingrediences of sausages and fast food is one of those things I rather dont like to think about.
daveake
06 Jun 2008, 12:51
.. and a few years before I think it was Gillian McKeith (pardon the spelling, the divvy one from You Are What You Eat)
She's worse than "divvy" - she's a fraud. She's not a medical doctor, she bought her PhD, and she's been censured for selling unlicenced medications. She claims to diagnose by looking at people's tongues and excrement, which is slightly ironic with the amount of excrement that her tongue helps her produce.
Can you tell I don't like her?
Dave
lol I'm with you, I can't tolerate her, I can't cope with the way she bullies people into doing things. Some of the people on her show are unhealthy and do need the shock tactics kick up the arse to make them realise how unhealthy they are, but I think her methods are just awful
Paul191
06 Jun 2008, 13:18
I think it's the guests, themselves, who apply to be on her show. Surely they should know, before the cameras are switched on, what they are letting themselves in for. Her tactics are harsh but it seems to work...
Oh absolutely, obviously for some people her methods are spot on, but I'm not one of them lol I find her diets really odd too, there's plenty of ways to have a healthy diet whilst still eating 'normal' things, I couldn't live on seeds and lentils! I need meat!
Monstro
06 Jun 2008, 14:48
<<<<<fighting the urge for a sausage sandwich!!!!!!
Can go wrong with a good sausage sarnie...so long as they're decent sausages!!
The Flying Mouse
06 Jun 2008, 15:25
:twisted: If you want to enjoy your dinner, NEVER wonder ponder theorise or enquire where it came from.
Sapphire Lady
06 Jun 2008, 15:31
I'm glad I'm vegetarian :neutral:
~Helen~
06 Jun 2008, 15:59
I'm glad I'm vegetarian :neutral:
Yes, I was going to say something similar...on the lines of...it's when I hear information like this that I realise the benefits of being vegetarian!
(as opposed to when I'm trying to eat out or explain to a friend hosting a dinner party that I'm also allergic to tomato after I became veggie, ok] - then being vegetarian feels less beneficial!! :?)
And lentils and seeds aren't always bad Lucy...! :-P I'll agree they're not always good either - couldn't eat just those all the time, that'd be very boring. One of the benefits (another one, although also not such a benefit when I'm feeling lazy) of being vegetarian is that you have to be so much more imaginative and inventive when planning meals! :D
Pudding
07 Jun 2008, 09:58
:twisted: If you want to enjoy your dinner, NEVER wonder ponder theorise or enquire where it came from.
That depends on what crap you eat for dinner.
Pud :twisted:
~Helen~
07 Jun 2008, 15:08
:twisted: If you want to enjoy your dinner, NEVER wonder ponder theorise or enquire where it came from.
I'd presumed most people don't...I know Alex works off the theory that if it's packaged up and sold as food then it must be edible. So he eats it. I would dearly love to take that approach but I just can't, which is why I'm veggie.
That depends on what crap you eat for dinner.
Pud :twisted:
Indeed, obviously we indulge in the odd Chinese or a pizza but more often than not we cook with fresh meat and all fresh ingredients, so no worries about what's going in there! :p
daveake
09 Jun 2008, 13:51
more often than not we cook with fresh meat and all fresh ingredients, so no worries about what's going in there! :p
Same here. I'm on an enforced diet on account of being diagnosed with stratospheric blood pressure a few months ago. Aside from my daily dose of pills, the biggest difference is that I now cook every day (pretty much), from fresh meat 'n' veg, and no processed food whatsoever. Amazing how much crap (salt especially) they put in those things. So rather than spend hours in Tesco reading all the labels, I just skoot past to the fresh stuff.
Oh, and Chinese food and pizzas are just about the worst salt-wise!
Dave
Unfortunately that and the fat content is what makes them taste so good!!
On the plus side the passata on a nice fresh pizza can count as one of your 5 a day cos of the tomatoes!!
Oh, and Chinese food and pizzas are just about the worst salt-wise!
Oh but it's so worth it! :p
I have IBS and really processed food just kills me. We were in London a couple of weeks back, stood in Piccadilly Circus at 12.30am and starving after a concert we needed something instant which ended up being McDonalds as it was the only thing open...fine at the time but the next day I could tell my body was attempting to digest something resembling plastic :?
daveake
09 Jun 2008, 15:38
Unfortunately that and the fat content is what makes them taste so good!!
It's entirely possible to make food taste as good as or better though, without salt and lots of fat. Just ask Mrs Dave what she thinks of my cooking ;-)
That said, if anyone knows of a low-salt low-fat cheese that doesn't taste like a car tyre, just let me know :-)
Dave
daveake
09 Jun 2008, 15:40
Oh but it's so worth it! :p
Indeed, so I make my own :-). The problem though, as you say, is when eating out. That can get quite tricky.
Dave
If we're eating out we don't do badly as we've usually got time to go to somewhere decent, it's when we're on the motorways using services that we crack! With Springsteen and Meat this year we've made the effort to make sure we have bread and fresh meats in the house to make our own before we set off...takes a little extra time but it's worth it, not to mention the cost of services
~Helen~
09 Jun 2008, 17:06
Yeah I was thinking as I read your post Lucy...with all the travelling up and down the country you two do for gigs, the difference in cost of making your own food compared with Service Station costs would probably almost pay for another ticket each month! :-);)
RadioMaster
09 Jun 2008, 17:32
and with that thought I'm off shopping for food :lol:
~Helen~
09 Jun 2008, 18:07
and with that thought I'm off shopping for food :lol:
Make sure you check the list of ingredients RJ ;)
duke knooby
09 Jun 2008, 19:17
would love a chinese or a pizza now... mmmmm tasty
RadioMaster
09 Jun 2008, 19:24
i went for chinese lmao
Pudding
10 Jun 2008, 02:34
Indeed, obviously we indulge in the odd Chinese or a pizza but more often than not we cook with fresh meat and all fresh ingredients, so no worries about what's going in there! :p
I think we all need our little treats now and again.
It's amazing how many useless sods there are out there who can't cook a simple meal from scratch using fresh meat and vegetables and just fill their bodies with crap on a daily basis.
Pud :twisted:
It amazes me that people do it, it amazes me more how people can digest it!
Pudding
10 Jun 2008, 13:04
On my last trip back to the UK, I went through Tesco's in Brighouse and I felt I was walking through a Man Vs Wild episode with amount of stomach churning crap they had on the shelves :vomit: I was half expecting to bump into Bear Grylls doing his weekly shopping.
Pud :twisted:
I just had a double sausage and egg McMuffin and it was lovely lol!!
lol this is where I confess we had Dominoes finest last night :lol:
Anyone want to fess up to a KFC while we're here lol?!!
~Helen~
10 Jun 2008, 15:38
lol this is where I confess we had Dominoes finest last night :lol:
There was something on the radio a couple of weeks ago saying that scientists have suggested pizzas are the secret of staying youthful...apparently the tomato base is beneficial in reducing sunburn and protects against some cancers...so you can eat Pizza guilt-free ;)
...apparently the tomato base is beneficial in reducing sunburn
:lmao: Helen if you could see me now you'd take that back!! :lol: Yesterday was such a lovely day that I sat out on the bench in the garden with a book. I was very good, came indoors for breaks and eventually gave up and came in because I was too hot, which apparently was too late and I swear to you there are parts of me now that are purple! I look scorched!
There was something on the radio a couple of weeks ago saying that scientists have suggested pizzas are the secret of staying youthful...apparently the tomato base is beneficial in reducing sunburn and protects against some cancers...so you can eat Pizza guilt-free ;)
And if your highlights have gone green in chlorinated water just put tomato ketchup on your hair for half an hour then wash it off and the green will have gone!! The tomato is an amazing thing!!
daveake
10 Jun 2008, 16:30
There was something on the radio a couple of weeks ago saying that scientists have suggested pizzas are the secret of staying youthful...apparently the tomato base is beneficial in reducing sunburn and protects against some cancers...so you can eat Pizza guilt-free ;)
These wouldn't be Italian scientists, would they?
It is a bit annoying the way that (for example) one week we get told that butter makes us fat, then the next week that it cures cancer, then the following week that it gives us piles, then the week after that it's a cure for piles. It'd be nice if they could make their minds up! Till then I know where they can stick their latest proclamations ...
Dave
...apparently the tomato base is beneficial in reducing sunburn
I swear to you there are parts of me now that are purple! I look scorched!
I think the trick is to eat the pizza before you go out in the sun, not after ;-)
I think the trick is to eat the pizza before you go out in the sun, not after ;-)
Pizza for breakfast is my ideal world lol
It is a bit annoying the way that (for example) one week we get told that butter makes us fat, then the next week that it cures cancer, then the following week that it gives us piles, then the week after that it's a cure for piles. It'd be nice if they could make their minds up! Till then I know where they can stick their latest proclamations ...
That is really annoying, I've given up listening to any of it. Common sense tells you what's going to be good for you and what isn't, and if I get an illness I'm not going to blame it on the amount of orange Smarties I've eaten :lol:
Pizza for breakfast is my ideal world lol
That is really annoying, I've given up listening to any of it. Common sense tells you what's going to be good for you and what isn't, and if I get an illness I'm not going to blame it on the amount of orange Smarties I've eaten :lol:
The orange ones are ok its the blue ones that were dodgy but they're 100% natural now so its a Smarty party!!
daveake
10 Jun 2008, 17:13
I think the trick is to eat the pizza before you go out in the sun, not after ;-)
No, you're not supposed to eat it - you're supposed to use the pizza to spread the tomato all over you!
You might look a bit of a lemon afterwards though ...
Dave
~Helen~
10 Jun 2008, 18:31
No, you're not supposed to eat it - you're supposed to use the pizza to spread the tomato all over you!
You might look a bit of a lemon afterwards though ...
Dave
Surely that should be
You might look a bit of a tomato afterwards though ...
and also whilst I'm here...
It is a bit annoying the way that (for example) one week we get told that butter makes us fat, then the next week that it cures cancer, then the following week that it gives us piles, then the week after that it's a cure for piles. It'd be nice if they could make their minds up! Till then I know where they can stick their latest proclamations ...
Dave
There's an easy solution to these problems... if scientists come up with bad and good points for a food you like then you listen to the positive. Vice versa - if you don't like it.
My dad sums it up fairly well though...he always says that if you like it, it's probably bad for you and if you don't like it, it's probably good for you! Haha :lol:
So in 2 weeks time are we all going to be cooking Meat's Tuna casserole surprise seeing as it will be freshly made?????
Going back to the original topic of sausages - 100 yrs ago unscrupulous butchers used to fill their sausages with sawdust to save money. Thats why the law covering ingredients lists was brought in!
djfierce
11 Jun 2008, 22:29
so now they just have to fill it with legal scrap lol
I think I'd rather eat sawdust than the crap that's in there now!
It's probably got more nutritional value but just think of those calories:lol:
Pudding
12 Jun 2008, 03:51
Many moons ago when I was in the Army, I was in France and was served up a chicken giblet sausage :shock: and it wasn't even fully cooked through :barf:
Pud :twisted:
MeatGrl1
18 Jun 2008, 06:07
:barf: I agree that sounds disgusting !!!!
Battybarb
18 Jun 2008, 10:25
I think after reading this thread,it has put me off eating sausages for life...lol
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