Meat To Receive Q Award

[Diane]

Just found this wonderful piece of news (http://ukpress.google.com:80/article/ALeqM5jfmxhrM6-Rsrzz6fuumEZpDzBL4w). :mrgreen:

Diane

[AndyK]

Nice one :))

[LucyK!]

Wonderful, thanks Diane :up:

[Skeleton]

Wonderful news, thanks! :D

[allrevvedup]

good stuff

[Diane]

This is what Music Week (http://www.musicweek.com:80/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=1035653&c=1) had to say:

Monday September 29, 2008
By Ben Cardew

Q Magazine is to present its classic song award to Meatloaf for his epic track Bat Out Of Hell.

The Bauer title holds its annual awards this Monday (October 6) and Meatloaf will be there to receive his honour in person.

Q editor in chief Paul Rees says, "There are some songs that transcend such things as time and genre, and Bat Out Of Hell is assuredly one of them. It sounded extraordinary when it was first released, and it appears no less so now - like something beamed in from another planet.”

This year Q Radio will air three exclusive shows from the awards, including backstage gossip.

Diane

[samurai7]

surely the award should be presented to Meat AND Jim?

(in my opinion)

[LucyK!]

It would be nice for Jim to take the credit but ultimately it would always be Meat being the 'face' of the award as Jim wouldn't be at the awards to accept it :?

[meatloaf-unofficial]

so I guess we'll see Meat on Tv?? :-)

[MeatGrl1]

FAN-BLOODY-TASTIC :)) !!!

Thanks Diane and a massive...

http://i37.tinypic.com/14ltxqb.gif

Meat !!!

This is great news to hear on my birthday :)).

[Cpl Mickey]

That's brilliant news x

[Monstro]

Great news, cheers Diane

[duke knooby]

excellent news

[Sarahdk23]

Thats great! Congratulations Meat!!!

[Paul191]

Aaaw, love it!! Was fantastic news!!

[Devil's Son]

Wonderful, thanks for telling

[snowy]

Q are running a red carpet webcam on the night according to this link http://www2.qawards.co.uk/2008/news/

Don't know when we will get to see the rest of the ceremony

DO Q have a Sky channel?

[Siobhan]

that website says

This year Q Radio will be the only place to hear the Q Awards with Russian Standard Vodka on radio. The station has exclusive access - making it the ONLY place to get all the news and backstage gossip - to the most prestigious music event of the year.

Here are the shows:

• 12 - 3pm: Samanthi is exclusively LIVE from the Q Awards with Russian Standard Vodka. Talking to the biggest names in music as they arrive on the red carpet and all the Q Award winners as they come off stage. Adam Catterall is in the studio.
• 6pm - 8pm: Q Awards with Russian Standard Vodka Special featuring highlights of the day and more backstage gossip, misbehaviour and general rock and roll tomfoolery.
• 8pm - 10pm: Q Awards Gigs with Russian Standard Vodka live at the Forum. Highlights of our series of shows which featured Keane, Razorlight, Sugababes and Bloc Party.

You can hear Q Radio on DAB radio in London, as well as on digital TV at Sky Channel 0181, Freeview Channel 716, and Virgin Channel 873, as well as online here.

http://news.q4music.com/2008/09/q_radio_with_all_the_q_awards.html

[Asha]

Great news.
Won't be able to see or hear much live though, being in holland....and having to work that evening
Just keep us posted Diane.

Asha

[Diane]

Will be very happy to Asha! :D

There's a full list of award nominees, including the Q Golden Award for Meat here (http://www.contactmusic.com:80/news.nsf/article/meat%20loaf%20to%20receive%20q%20music%20award_1081993). While you're there make sure to look at the great pic gallery from Meat's London Motor Show Music Festival performance. :cool:

Diane

[Bren]

Great news :D

[dottie]

About time too:)

[carole]

Thanks for letting us know Diane, and they are right about BOOH transcends time and genres. It is certainly well deserved.

Carole

[Cathie]

Fantastic :D

[SuperLoafMan]

Fantastic News! Well Done Meat!

[Diane]

Just a reminder that the Q Awards will be covered live from the Grosvenor House Hotel beginning at 12 noon today.

Listen to it here (http://radioplayer.qthemusic.com/).

Diane

[LucyK!]

I wondered why Andy was working in London today! :p

[Diane]

Just read this on the BBC news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7654627.stm) website:

"Meat Loaf turned up at the ceremony sporting a cut eye and looking unwell, telling reporters he would have to visit a doctor because he was suffering from vertigo."

:( Hope it doesn't completely ruin his big day.

Diane

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: This is probably just one of those things I completely miss the point of, but can you not only get Vertigo (fear of heights? Right?) in high places? :wtf:

Doesn't sound too good about the cut eye though.
Hope the big guy is OK.

[LucyK!]

Yes the vertigo thing confused me too, perhaps he was suffering from it and is now recovering?

Either way I hope he's still able to enjoy receiving his award :up:

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: This is probably just one of those things I completely miss the point of, but can you not only get Vertigo (fear of heights? Right?) in high places? :wtf:


:twisted: Apparently not :shock:

You learn something new every day.

Vertigo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertigo_(medical))

[LucyK!]

That doesn't sound good, get well soon Mr Loaf :up:

This is from the News page on the Q site which is being updated through the day:


Steinman says Bat reflects his philosophy
Bat Out Of Hell‘s writer Jim Steinman said today that the song was “a perfect reflection of my creed”.

The legendary composer – who wrote the song for the album of the same name – said he created the track to be “the ultimate crash song”, “operatic annihilation” and a little piece of "Wagner".

After hearing the track was named Classic Song at today’s Q Awards, he said: “In the interest of being pompous, profound, and pretentious all at the same time, as well as being self-deprecating, even self-lacerating, and brilliant simultaneously, I can truly say that BAT OUT OF HELL is a perfect reflection of my creed: ‘If you don’t go over the top, you’ll never see what’s on the other side”.

“’Bat’ was a complete song after two choruses, at six-plus minutes long. But I thought it was too short - no, incomplete. It needed more! So I toiled away and came up with the final third of the song, starting at: “I can see myself, tearing up the road, FASTER, than any other boy has ever gone……” - and this evolved into the whole CRASH sequence, ending with “the last thing I see is my heart/still beating/still beating/breaking out of my body and flying away ……. Like a BAT OUT OF HELL!”

“Then it was complete. It had been a great driving-racing-speed anthem, plus a suitably obsessive love story, but now it was what I wanted all along: THE ULTIMATE CRASH SONG!! SELF-DESTRUCTION! OPERATIC ANNIHILATION!!!!!!
A LOVE DEATH!!!!! LITTLE RICHARD WAGNER!!!!

“Thus, if I hadn't gone OVER THE TOP, I NEVER WOULD HAVE SEEN WHAT’S ON THE OTHER SIDE. Which I really loved. And which, to this f***ing day, I still love. END OF STORY; AND THANK YOU, Q & MEAT. (That sounds like a distant relative of Spotted Dick: Q & MEAT!)”

[LucyK!]

Some pics from today at Getty Images (apologies for them showing as links)...certainly not the best I've seen him looking but not too bad!

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[Diane]

That doesn't sound good, get well soon Mr Loaf :up:

This is from the News page on the Q site which is being updated through the day:


Steinman says Bat reflects his philosophy
Bat Out Of Hell‘s writer Jim Steinman said today that the song was “a perfect reflection of my creed”.

The legendary composer – who wrote the song for the album of the same name – said he created the track to be “the ultimate crash song”, “operatic annihilation” and a little piece of "Wagner".

After hearing the track was named Classic Song at today’s Q Awards, he said: “In the interest of being pompous, profound, and pretentious all at the same time, as well as being self-deprecating, even self-lacerating, and brilliant simultaneously, I can truly say that BAT OUT OF HELL is a perfect reflection of my creed: ‘If you don’t go over the top, you’ll never see what’s on the other side”.

“’Bat’ was a complete song after two choruses, at six-plus minutes long. But I thought it was too short - no, incomplete. It needed more! So I toiled away and came up with the final third of the song, starting at: “I can see myself, tearing up the road, FASTER, than any other boy has ever gone……” - and this evolved into the whole CRASH sequence, ending with “the last thing I see is my heart/still beating/still beating/breaking out of my body and flying away ……. Like a BAT OUT OF HELL!”

“Then it was complete. It had been a great driving-racing-speed anthem, plus a suitably obsessive love story, but now it was what I wanted all along: THE ULTIMATE CRASH SONG!! SELF-DESTRUCTION! OPERATIC ANNIHILATION!!!!!!
A LOVE DEATH!!!!! LITTLE RICHARD WAGNER!!!!

“Thus, if I hadn't gone OVER THE TOP, I NEVER WOULD HAVE SEEN WHAT’S ON THE OTHER SIDE. Which I really loved. And which, to this f***ing day, I still love. END OF STORY; AND THANK YOU, Q & MEAT. (That sounds like a distant relative of Spotted Dick: Q & MEAT!)”
Typical Jim! :mrgreen: Thanks for that Lucy. Very happy that Q spoke to Jim for his views on "Bat". Nice that he not only thanks Q but Meat also.

Diane

[Diane]

Thanks for the pic links Lucy. :up:

Diane

[duke knooby]

steinman commented?? lol, does that mean he was up really early, or really late??????

[Diane]

Latest Meat update on the Q news page:

Meat Loaf’s Bat Out Of Hell landed the title of Classic Song today at the 2008 Q Awards with Russian Standard Vodka.

The huge worldwide hit – written by his early collaborator Jim Steinman – was recognised by Q magazine for its incredible staying power.

Collecting the prize, Loaf exchanged banter with award presenter Al Murray, asking him to repeat a breakneck, off the cuff introduction prior to taking the stage. But after Murray was unable to remember what he had said, Loaf asked: “Could you say something else?”

“I like your hair,” quipped the comic. “I like your hair too, Loaf responded.

Murray shot back: “We’ve got a future you and me.” After Loaf’s failed attempt to sing some Queen songs at Murray’s suggestion, the comic concluded Shall we go to the pub and do that?”

Diane

[Diane]

Latest update from BBC news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7654844.stm) website:

"He (Meat) left the ceremony soon after picking up his award from comedian Al Murray."

I'm feeling really sorry for him. Hope he's feeling better soon.

Diane

[LucyK!]

Oh dear, is he straight back to LA after this?

[Diane]

No idea Lucy but he must be crushed to have travelled to the UK for the award only to be taken ill.

Diane

[LucyK!]

He needs to get himself home and rested and make sure he's on top form for the upcoming shows...

[meatloaf-unofficial]

well listening to the online Radio the presenter said:

That he was really please Meat Loaf got the award for best classic song because Bat was the first record his mother bought him - then he went onto say, I think my street cred has gone down :shock: Why??

MEAT LOAF ROCKS!!!!!!! :-P

I hope he feels better soon and new style there - sporting some glasses :lol:

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Adding on from the Official Q Awards site:

"The singer appeared hesitant and not quite at his usual voluble top form as he took to the stage.

His publicist said later that the singer was suffering from vertigo and was shaken by an eye injury on the way to the awards event".

Doesn't sound good....

[SW31]

just been listening to virgin ref q awards q have meat getting up for his award on film & will be putting it on their web site later ,bloody typical they always grt him when he's under the weather, good award though meat --get better soon mate

[heidi]

no good news....

[Diane]

Latest update from the BBC news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7654844.stm) website:

He (Meat) had to be helped on and off the stage and he left the ceremony soon after picking up his award from comedian Al Murray, having been checked over by a paramedic.

Diane

[RadioMaster]

ouch

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Latest update from the BBC news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7654844.stm) website:

He (Meat) had to be helped on and off the stage and he left the ceremony soon after picking up his award from comedian Al Murray, having been checked over by a paramedic.

Diane

poor guy! Not good for Meat!

[geordieloaf]

It's a pitty but i'm pleased he was able to collect the award and it was good to hear from Jim aswell!

[Siobhan]

Latest update from the BBC news (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7654844.stm) website:

He (Meat) had to be helped on and off the stage and he left the ceremony soon after picking up his award from comedian Al Murray, having been checked over by a paramedic.

Diane

Also on that page is a small clip of him talking to a presenter - literally 5 seconds...

[allrevvedup]

saw the clip, maybe it was just the sunglasses that changed his look but he didn't look well.

[Sarge]

I saw pics prior to any reports and thought that he looked quite elegant but I was wondering about the glasses and if he wore them to conceal something. After reading this thread I know why. What a pity that he felt unwell. I hope he gets better soon.

[AndyK]

The way I read the reports it comes across to me that Meat cut his eye not long before the awards ceremony, so it's possible that he was shaken after whatever the "accident" was which could be why he isn't looking his best in the pics perhaps?

[meatloaf-unofficial]

The way I read the reports it comes across to me that Meat cut his eye not long before the awards ceremony, so it's possible that he was shaken after whatever the "accident" was which could be why he isn't looking his best in the pics perhaps?

Good thinkin' Batman :lmao:

[carole]

Poor Meat, I hope he feels better soon and his eye isn't too badly hurt.

Carole

[LP]

Just heard the audio from Meat's acceptance speech and he was definitely under the influence of something; be it prescribed or otherwise there is no doubting it. He sounded slow, confused, and displayed none of the usual sharp-witted banter we've come to love. I hope he sorts himself out.

I wouldn't post this if I didn't believe it myself so take a listen to Q Radio online at this link http://radioplayer.qthemusic.com/ and then choose the highlights show on the right hand side.

His bit appears around 10 minutes into the show.

[honeyrose]

Well to be honest I rather hope his performance on Q was just the result of too many substances, only if not it sounds rather like PSP which Dudley Moore had.

("In 1987, Dudley Moore enlisted music critic Renata Fruchter as an artistic partner and they performed as a duo in the U.S. and Australia. However, his disease soon started to make itself apparent as his fingers would not always do what he wanted them to do. Symptoms such as slurred speech and loss of balance were interpreted by the public and the media as a sign of drunkenness. Dudley Moore himself was at a loss to explain this.

On 30 September 1999, Moore announced that he was suffering from the terminal degenerative brain disorder Progressive Supranuclear Palsy. wikipedia).

PSP symptoms include loss of balance, slurred speech and vision focus problems. In particular moving the eyes, particularly in the vertical direction. The latter accounts for some of the falls experienced by these patients as they are unable to look up or down.

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: Thanks for the link :up:

Doesn't sound too good :sad:
Quite a bit of sluring going on, but he HAD complained of vertigo.

Sounds like Meat has taken a nasty tumble shortly before the show and has not been feeling right since.
Hopefully he'll be well recovered soon.


Must say that the highlights show doesn't seem to be very coherent at all.
It seems like they've quite literally took a few comments from his speech, edited them together, and threw it on the show.
For instance, we've heard it reported Al told Meat he liked his hair, and Meat replied in kind.That is missing from this recording.
I don't think it's a totally accurate representation of Meat's speech.

Although he clearly wasn't his old self, I think the edit made him seem much worse.

[duke knooby]

he was briefly shown and mentioned on ch5 news coverage about 7.20pm, but they just said looking the worse fo wear

[MeatGrl1]

http://i37.tinypic.com/juwsy0.jpg

Found this on THIS (http://www.qawards.co.uk/qawards2008/) site, also scroll and there is a little bit about what Jim had to say and then a bit on Meat if you scroll a bit.

Just found this (http://news.q4music.com/2008/09/meat_loaf_to_win_2008_q_award.html) :)).

Here is another link with a new pic;

Click here for the link (http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article4893893.ece)

Another artical;

Clickety-click (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1070470/Meat-Loaf-leaves-Q-Awards-medical-treatment-suffering-vertigo.html)

The Sun online (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/article1775152.ece)

[Sarge]

I'm getting tired of that kind of news. I wish I hadn't listened to that audio clip. I don't know what is wrong with him but something is wrong. :(

[MeatGrl1]

Yes those last pictures in the last few articals I posted shocked me, not seen him like that before :(. Hope he gets better soon.

[Pudding]

When you reach the lofty heights of a 'Q' award then it's only natural you might suffer from a little vertigo :))

Pud :twisted:

[LP]

Also this video, scroll to 6:44. Its a bit upsetting to be quite honest.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ELH5AXVQLTs

[Asha]

Man, no words really.
Hope it all turns out for the best....

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Where's the real Meat gone???? :shock:

I found a news Q on youtube about Meat too:

Rock star Meat Loaf leaves the Q Awards for medical treatment after slurring his words and nearly falling off stage.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XRojTsPMHmk&feature=user

[meatloaf-unofficial]

sorry but listening to the audio it was really hard to listen to..... god, imo, I think its really good that we didn't see Meat on video accepting the awards - I think its too sad a time....

You so gotta get better ;-)

PS>> Look on the rbight side, HE attended it no matter what, so thats what counts. At least he didn't stay in his hotel room (if you get what I mean)


Also after reading the articles, why do poeple always assume he drinks and appear drunk! I think he's genuinly ill and not drunk!!! Makes me mad - they can't seem to take his word!!!!!

[The Flying Mouse]

Also this video, scroll to 6:44. Its a bit upsetting to be quite honest.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ELH5AXVQLTs


:twisted: Some people really have no f***ing brains :angry:
The people in that crowd were bang out of order.

Meat looked bloody awful and nearly took a header as soon as he got out of the van, and the crowd just ignored that and shouted for autographs (that will probably end up on e bay anyway).

What if he'd been run over by a car?
Would it be cool to run to his side brandishing a copy of Bat Out Of Hell and a black marker pen?

Sorry, but if you see someone who is obviously ill, no matter who it is, you show them a little respect and leave them alone.

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Meat was apparently rushed to hospital after a vertigo attack (not sure what one of those is) last night and another article saud, he was still in there...

Hope he's free now

From the Daily Mirror - no doubt it will make the papers today if not sooner:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/latest/2008/10/07/3am-at-the-q-awards-meat-loaf-rushed-to-hospital-after-day-of-bizarre-behaviour-115875-20780416/

[heidi]

i am sooo unhappy to read and see this, especially the last video from the arrival. hope, Meat is getting better soon.
heidi

[sexyeyes_jo]

thats disgraceful what they done to meat, he could hardly stand up and yet they kept bothering him for bloody autographs obviously the man ain't well and surely if someone ain't well they would want to be left alone and to get on with it no matter who they are, if they had any respect for meat they would have left him alone, don't people have any common sense left any more? or is it they're to think to see that he is ill. at least he made the effort to go to the awards in first place he could of just pulled out of it, im sure there will be plenty of other times to get autographs from meat its not like he ain't gonna come to london again.

[Skeleton]

I have a really slight epilepsy. I don't have those major seizures and I don't need any medication so don't worry about me. :D

I feel dizzy at times (maybe 2 times a month, slight seizure) but couple years ago I had a really huge vertigo attack and I had to lay down.. It was horrible.. :( I couldn't move without feeling that I'm going to stumble and I felt a little bit sick.. And the most horrible thing is that it lasted for hours.. :( It sort of paralyzed me..

I hope that Meat gets well soon.. :cheer: He's wonderful man and really deserved the Q-award.. :D

[duke knooby]

http://musicnews.virginmedia.com/news/?news_id=90743

[For crying out loud]

poor meat. i couldn't listen to that audio clip, he sounded so ill. he's so brave, my moms have vertigo and she couldn't get out of bed for three days and any movement left her being violently sick. vertigo is to do with the balence in the inner ear and this can get disturbed by a fall or a blow to the head ect, it leaves the person feeling and being violenty sick, unstable on their feet and unable to balence, movement cause the world to spin. it takes ages to get over and some people have it for life, in varying degrees. i hope you get better meat, x

[Diane]

Video (http://www.dailymotion.com:80/video/x6zq1u_meat-loaf-needs-treatment-after-q-a_news) of Meat talking to the media about his vertigo problems on his arrival at the Q Awards.

I hope he's feeling much better today.

Diane

[Sabine]

... oh no, not really good news from Meat and that on my birthday. I hope he feel better soon.

Sabine

[MeatGrl1]

Also this video, scroll to 6:44. Its a bit upsetting to be quite honest.


http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ELH5AXVQLTs

:( Here I am with tears pricking my eyes, this is possibly the worst I've seen him in the public eye, it's distressing to see that, and you can clearly see that he isn't at all well, then people get annoyed when he doesn't sign something :shock:, thanks for the link.

Get well soon Meat :heart:.

::EDIT::

Just found this, it's Keane talking about Meat's Q Award;

nMEVRqXgOWk

::EDIT 2::

Just found THIS (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/3am/2008/10/07/3am-at-the-q-awards-meat-loaf-rushed-to-hospital-after-day-of-bizarre-behaviour-115875-20780416/) :(.

Does not sound good.

::EDIT 3::

I have just found THIS (http://entertainment.uk.msn.com/music/news/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=9979394&GT1=61501).

Meat Loaf pics found HERE (http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/OTt5OMG1wG5/The+Q+Awards+2008+Arrivals/3h84tA4bNbJ/Meat+Loaf).

Meat Loaf gets Q gong (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/30/rock_opera_tedium/)

Alan Carr saved Meat Loaf's life at Q Awards (http://www.myparkmag.co.uk/articles/celebrity/alan-carr/alan-carr-saved-mealoafs-life-at-q-awards.html)

PIC (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/3146594/The-Q-Awards-2008-at-Grosvenor-House-Park-Lane-London.html?image=6)

[MeatGrl1]

Meat Loaf 'seeks treatment' after awards (http://www.orange.co.uk/entertainment/news/27986.htm?linkfrom=feed_entertainment&link=link_1&article=showbiz)

[LucyK!]

As yet I've not opened the links in this thread, and frankly after the past year I don't want to, I just hope that whatever problems he's suffered prior to the awards caused him to need painkillers or otherwise that have had an effect, and once he's off them he'll be back to normal...this press coverage is the last thing he needs following the Casa De Carne reviews

[AndrewG]

Also after reading the articles, why do poeple always assume he drinks and appear drunk! I think he's genuinly ill and not drunk!!! Makes me mad - they can't seem to take his word!!!!!

I don't think this is fair to point. Don't get me wrong I understand in a way where you are coming from.

HOWEVER: In the past when Meat has been described as being drunk it has always been based on his performances (that mixed in with his Dead Ringer antics obviously is a crazy assumption! :shock:).
Now though, based on the footage of him almost stumbling out of the car, the photos and apparently what went on on stage (which you can't see) I think it's fair to point out he did seem AT LEAST drunk. That or heavily intoxicated on medicenes/painkillers / jetlag problems whatever. Which all seem quite plausible to me.
I actually hope that's all it ways.

[RadioMaster]

because its not part of his image

[geordieloaf]

To be honest although it wasn't very good to see him look like this let's not blow it out of proportion. Yes he seemed unwell, he said he had a bad bout of vertigo and appartently hurt his eye so yes i'm guessing he would have took something to try to get through the awards.
Even if that meant having a large drink so what? He was unwell his speach wasn't great again so what, i have heard alot worse from other celebs. Listen to the interview on the red carpet he sates he is feeling unwell and go's on to describe the vertigo problem. I thought he sounded ok on the red carpet and although obviously he was unwell, he then went on to say the highlight of his career is still infront of him.
I hope he recovers well but let's not get to down and jumping to conclusions and making something seem alot worse that it probably is!

[LucyK!]

Absolutely Chris, not forgetting that on top of the vertigo, bad eye and appropriate painkillers Meat was probably also jet lagged

[RadioMaster]

to be honest, I dont think the pics and videos look as bad as everyone says. He's clearly not well, but I've seen him in much worse condition.

[Heg19]

Hope he gets better soon whatever the illness is. We love you Meat xxx

[LP]

Yeah, take a look at the Wembley '81/'82ish video!

I think being a more mature gentleman in that kind of state makes things appear worse. He's a rock star after all, he's allowed a drink or 2! It annoys me that his publicist always insists that he doesn't drink when we all know that he does. Who cares if he does?

To contradict myself a little - I think it was either very brave or very silly to venture out in front of the world's press in that state.

[geordieloaf]

Absolutely Chris, not forgetting that on top of the vertigo, bad eye and appropriate painkillers Meat was probably also jet lagged

That's true and people forget he has trouble with his knee which makes him a bit unsteady at the best of times.
Plus we all know Meat given the chance can talk crap better than most i really don't think it is as bad as some people are making out!

[RadioMaster]

Yeah, take a look at the Wembley '81/'82ish video!

I think being a more mature gentleman in that kind of state makes things appear worse. He's a rock star after all, he's allowed a drink or 2! It annoys me that his publicist always insists that he doesn't drink when we all know that he does. Who cares if he does?

To contradict myself a little - I think it was either very brave or very silly to venture out in front of the world's press in that state.

who was it that said any publicity is good publicity?

[samurai7]

well, he IS in all the papers today ;)

and I've had loads of people call me up to tell me just that...

[allrevvedup]

He didn't look well and if he had an eye injury, of course that is going to affect his vision and balance and depending if he was on medication it would also affect him.

Overall he looked like an old man and, as something that will not be a news flash, hey he is 61 years old...there's been crazier things that have happened at award cermonies, Michael Jackson and Jarvis Cocker spring to mind.

Just have to add as well the important thing is that a great album was rightly recognised today

[Rosiec211]

I just wanna say Congratulations on the award Meat, and hope you are feeling lots lots better soon. Rosie xxx

[AndyK]

...`let's not blow it out of proportion...

Exactly!

I was talking to someone at work today and he mentioned his wife was suffering with vertigo ... and the symptoms sound just like the descriptions of Meat at the awards ... apparently it's fairly easily controlled though. So fingers crossed for a speedy recovery for Meat!

Just hope that his illness doesn't overdshadow the award!

[Deb]

He's a rock star after all, he's allowed a drink or 2! It annoys me that his publicist always insists that he doesn't drink when we all know that he does. Who cares if he does?

Do we?

[RadioMaster]

apparently some do ;)

[mszee]

He's a rock star after all, he's allowed a drink or 2! It annoys me that his publicist always insists that he doesn't drink when we all know that he does.




Well, I for one don't know whether he drinks or not...neither do I care...so please don't include me in the mix...

[RadioMaster]

what mix? Zina on the rocks or Zina on the beach?? :))

[AndrewG]

LMAO.

Honestly the sex on the beach drink was something I hadn't heard about a while ago and this led to an interesting situation with a girl from work. :D.
A LOT of rumours were spread that day!!

[24K]

poor meat. i couldn't listen to that audio clip, he sounded so ill. he's so brave, my moms have vertigo and she couldn't get out of bed for three days and any movement left her being violently sick. vertigo is to do with the balence in the inner ear and this can get disturbed by a fall or a blow to the head ect, it leaves the person feeling and being violenty sick, unstable on their feet and unable to balence, movement cause the world to spin. it takes ages to get over and some people have it for life, in varying degrees. i hope you get better meat, x

Yep that is vertigo, i have suffered from it in the past, it is not pleasant and the symptoms displayed by Meat are akin to vertigo. Assumptions can be made, only Meat knows the real answer.
I think we could go round and round saying well is it this, is it that? but really all i care about is that Meat gets better soon, from whatever problem he has.

Yea he did have bad press for the last tour, but i loved every show, so i don't give a rats ass what the press say about the shows, and am taking what they say now with a pinch of salt.
I listen to other peoples opinion on the show, they are entitled to their view i respect that, but it doesn't change mine.
I have my opinion of what is wrong with Meat and i respect that people may think differently.

[LP]

Do we?

Yes, he drinks tequila in 'In Search Of Paradise'

[Deb]

Meat has said many times himself he does not drink.

[samurai7]

doesn't drink to get drunk. we've all seen him swig a beer on stage, and he does talk about a shot or two of tequila before a show, but that doesn't mean he drinks himself drunk. ;)

[LP]

Yeah, fair enough. I guess I don't understand enough about the vertigo to believe that anything aside from drugs or alcohol can do that to someone's speech, comprehension and self-awareness.

I hope he gets better soon, whatever the problem may be.

PS - Meat also said that he got his name when a VW ran over his head...!

[Pudding]

There's a few overblown comments being made and some people need to take a chill pill.

Meat went to the awards out of his own choosing even though he apparently knew he wasn't well long before he went. No it's not nice to see him like this, but it was his choice to go.

And if you didn't know Meat and saw him stumbling out of a car you'd automatically think he'd had a drink or three, which asking for an autograph is fair game. The general public in Britain aren't armed with the knowledge about Meat Loaf, his drinking habits or his medical conditions like some people on here.

Pud :twisted:

[AndrewG]

Pud pretty much sums it up. It's really ashame to see him like this as it is just a very bad impression people will get of him, whether or not we like it or accept it.

[LP]

There's a few overblown comments being made and some people need to take a chill pill.

Meat went to the awards out of his own choosing even though he apparently knew he wasn't well long before he went. No it's not nice to see him like this, but it was his choice to go.

And if you didn't know Meat and saw him stumbling out of a car you'd automatically think he'd had a drink or three, which asking for an autograph is fair game. The general public in Britain aren't armed with the knowledge about Meat Loaf, his drinking habits or his medical conditions like some people on here.

Pud :twisted:

I couldn't have said it better....

...I've always wanted to do that. Ha!

He had the opportunity to pass on the awards and could have sent a message explaining his absence. The fact that he carried on and nobody stopped him is quite worrying.

[geordieloaf]

I couldn't have said it better....

...I've always wanted to do that. Ha!

He had the opportunity to pass on the awards and could have sent a message explaining his absence. The fact that he carried on and nobody stopped him is quite worrying.


That's true but he had travelled all the way from the usa and what he said was he became unwell on the morning of the awards. So if i was him i would have made the effort to turn up after travelling so far.
I didn't think it was that bad yes he stubbled when he got out of the car, so people thought he was drunk. He's a grown man and if he had decided to get blattered before hand then that would be his choice why should someone have stopped him?
My missus always tells me i've had enough when were on a night out and i don't listen to her!

[mszee]

Well, I've finally got around to listening to the clips. As I've expected it was all blown out of proportion...it sounded to me like typical Meat albeit very much tired...which is understandable.

And now for the question...should he...shouldn't have he...I thought about it for a while and my first reaction was..well, he probably shouldn't have...

And then...you have to remember...this is MEAT...large than life Meat who probably at 61 still thinks he is 21...it is very hard to live your life being this bear of a man and face the reality of being older now...I for one understand very well...so...he did what he thought was best and that's that...

[Pudding]

Regardless of who you are or how far you've travelled it's no excuse to ignore the warning signs about your health. Meat threw caution to the wind, no one asked him to and no one stopped him. It is sad to see him in that state but I'd rather not see him at all if he isn't well.

Pud :twisted:

[mszee]

Regardless of who you are or how far you've travelled it's no excuse to ignore the warning signs about your health. Meat threw caution to the wind, no one asked him to and no one stopped him. It is sad to see him in that state but I'd rather not see him at all if he isn't well.

Pud :twisted:

I honestly think if the case was that he wasn't feeling well before the awards, he just might have overestimated himself...you know...the older we get...the younger we think we are...unfortunately, most of us will feel this way sooner or later...

Do not misunderstand me, I am not looking for any excuses...I am just looking for possible explanations...

[Pudding]

Of course he wasn't feeling well before the awards, he said that himself, he woke up with vertigo, the room was spinning around and he needed to see a Doctor, those are his words not mine. He stumbled out of the car, didn't look at all well, stumble up on stage, mumbled some incoherent sentence, got bundled off the stage by Al Murray, then went to see a Doctor.

If health is less important than recieving a crappy looking award then so be it. Personally I'd have gotten someone to accept it on my behalf, like what Pearl did for Meat at the Classic Rock Awards not too long ago.

Pud :twisted:

[AndyK]

Strikes me this was a no win situation for Meat.

He wakes up on the morning of the awards and he feels unwell ... if he cancels his appearance there's the risk of the negative headlines and stories regarding him pulling out of attending. So, he turns up and what doe she get? Negative headlines and stories regarding him attending.

[carole]

sorry but listening to the audio it was really hard to listen to..... god, imo, I think its really good that we didn't see Meat on video accepting the awards - I think its too sad a time....

You so gotta get better ;-)

PS>> Look on the rbight side, HE attended it no matter what, so thats what counts. At least he didn't stay in his hotel room (if you get what I mean)

I agree, Meat is a real trouper still attending even though he was unwell.


Also after reading the articles, why do poeple always assume he drinks and appear drunk! I think he's genuinly ill and not drunk!!! Makes me mad - they can't seem to take his word!!!!!

It annoys me too, the press just seen to look for any excuse to have a go at Meat. They really need to get their facts straight instead of jumping to concclusions. and writing rubbish about him.

Carole

[24K]

Of course he wasn't feeling well before the awards, he said that himself, he woke up with vertigo, the room was spinning around and he needed to see a Doctor, those are his words not mine. He stumbled out of the car, didn't look at all well, stumble up on stage, mumbled some incoherent sentence, got bundled off the stage by Al Murray, then went to see a Doctor.

If health is less important than recieving a crappy looking award then so be it. Personally I'd have gotten someone to accept it on my behalf, like what Pearl did for Meat at the Classic Rock Awards not too long ago.

Pud :twisted:

I personally think Meat should not have attended either, and instead got someone else to receive the award for him.

[AndrewG]

:-(

Rock-Royalty-Not-Exactly-Qing-Up-For-Awards (http://entertainment.ie/celebrity_gossip/Rock-Royalty-Not-Exactly-Qing-Up-For-Awards/23668.htm)

[LucyK!]

Very well said Pud. Meat wasn't well, he's now recovering, I think we should now get back to the main point of the thread which is the great news that Bat Out Of Hell has been recognised in such a way and given the award :up:

The link that AndrewG posted (just above this post if I'm typing quick enough :lol: ) quips that actually it was Jim who wrote the song not Meat, does anyone know if Jim was mentioned at the ceremony?

[mszee]

Strikes me this was a no win situation for Meat.

He wakes up on the morning of the awards and he feels unwell ... if he cancels his appearance there's the risk of the negative headlines and stories regarding him pulling out of attending. So, he turns up and what doe she get? Negative headlines and stories regarding him attending.

These are exactly my thoughts...thank you for expressing them.

[LP]

Meat tried to mention Jim, he said something along the lines of " Jim......Jimmy... " and then made the 'over the top' quote.

[MeatGrl1]

More news on Meat;

Meat Loaf's dizzy day (http://musicnews.virginmedia.com/news/?news_id=90743)

SHOCK ! Meat Loaf rushed to hospital (http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/276458/shock-meat-loaf-rushed-to-hospital/1/)

Meat Loaf blames rambling speech on 'vertigo'. (http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:MeatLoaf,00.html)

Clickety-Click (http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/people/story/717386.html)


I have to agree with Andy's post, Meat's damned if he is and damned if he isn't, either way the papers would find some reason to make or get a negative story but I do feel it's unfair that all the media seem to focus on is his health and not the accomplishment that Bat has acheived in getting this recognition.
I wish Meat a speedy recovery.

[allrevvedup]

Because he's not in the public eye as much anymore (in terms of being a huge selling artist or appearing on MTV etc daily and weekly) any small thing he does that can be shown as an out of the ordinary story will be published and hey at the end of it all, he is there to be shot at (so to speak)

No such thing as bad publicity at the end of the day and maybe if it does one thing it will be to sell a few more copies of Bat from some of the younger Q readers.

[RadioMaster]

the press just seen to look for any excuse to have a go at Meat.
that's a bit harsh
I personally think Meat should not have attended either, and instead got someone else to receive the award for him.

Im not an expert on this, but I think if he wouldnt attend a ceremony like this twice in a row, it might have some effect. For example that he wouldnt get awarded anymore at all, as people wouldnt expect him to show up, etc

[LucyK!]

Jog my memory, what else did he not attend?

[Monstro]

Was it the Kerang awards? Pearl picked it up for him

[RadioMaster]

thought it was the classic rock thingy? wasnt the kerrang awards the one where he used the f word countless times?

[LucyK!]

Classic Rock awards :up:

[Monstro]

thas it lol

[carole]

More news on Meat;

Meat Loaf's dizzy day (http://musicnews.virginmedia.com/news/?news_id=90743)

SHOCK ! Meat Loaf rushed to hospital (http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebrity-news/276458/shock-meat-loaf-rushed-to-hospital/1/)

Meat Loaf blames rambling speech on 'vertigo'. (http://www.people.com/people/news/category/0,,personsTax:MeatLoaf,00.html)

Clickety-Click (http://www.miamiherald.com/entertainment/people/story/717386.html)


I have to agree with Andy's post, Meat's damned if he is and damned if he isn't, either way the papers would find some reason to make or get a negative story but I do feel it's unfair that all the media seem to focus on is his health and not the accomplishment that Bat has acheived in getting this recognition.
I wish Meat a speedy recovery.

Yeah I agree with both you and Andy, whatever Meat does, he doesn't win. If he cancelled, they would have had a go at him for not showing, when he shows up even though he isn't well, they imply he's drunk. That's true, they should be focusing on the accomplishment of Bat, after all that's what it was all about. Get well Meat, we all love you.

Carole

[24K]

that's a bit harsh


Im not an expert on this, but I think if he wouldnt attend a ceremony like this twice in a row, it might have some effect. For example that he wouldnt get awarded anymore at all, as people wouldnt expect him to show up, etc

Some effect maybe, but i very much doubt it would have been all over the place about what happened with him at the Q awards, thats my own opinion anyway.
As for he didn't attend a previous award and then if he hadn't attended this, i really don't think that they stop giving people awards just if they can't attend, afterall a lot of acts are out on the road etc, again thats just my opinion.

[Pudding]

Strikes me this was a no win situation for Meat.

He wakes up on the morning of the awards and he feels unwell ... if he cancels his appearance there's the risk of the negative headlines and stories regarding him pulling out of attending. So, he turns up and what doe she get? Negative headlines and stories regarding him attending.

I disagree. The win in this situation would be Meats health. If you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, then you might as well be damned but be healthy with it.

Pud :twisted:

[AndyK]

I disagree. The win in this situation would be Meats health. If you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, then you might as well be damned but be healthy with it.

Pud :twisted:

Disagree all you want, but you're disagreeing with a point I wasn't making :)) I was talking about a lose/lose in terms of potential negative publicity not with regard to his health.

It's pretty obvious in hindsight, that Meat's best course of action would have been to stay tucked up in his hotel room (or even LA if he was ill before he travelled).

[MissAsh]

I think I must've been living under a rock the last 24 hours, no idea how I missed all this going on! Wish I hadn't watched the video clips but ah well.

Hope Meat makes a full recovery very soon.

[24K]

I disagree. The win in this situation would be Meats health. If you're damned if you do and damned if you don't, then you might as well be damned but be healthy with it.

Pud :twisted:


Damned healthy would be nice;)

[Battybarb]

have not been online for a couple of days,just read this thread and seen some clips ((not all,wished i had not seen one or two,bit upsetting)).
Godd on meat for getting the award and making it to the awards,and lets hope he makes a speedy recovery and feels loads better a.s.a.p.
A friend of mine suffers with vertigo and she has had some terrible times with it..

[Pudding]

Disagree all you want, but you're disagreeing with a point I wasn't making :)) I was talking about a lose/lose in terms of potential negative publicity not with regard to his health.

If you're not there to collect an award for health reasons I fail to see how you'd get the same negative publicity as accepting an award and making a tw@t of yourself.

At the end of the day Meat did what he thought was best or the people he's surrounded with made that decision for him. I think he needs to surround himself with better people in all honesty as he clearly wasn't in a coherent mental state.

Pud :twisted:

[RadioMaster]

Yeah I agree with both you and Andy, whatever Meat does, he doesn't win. If he cancelled, they would have had a go at him for not showing, when he shows up even though he isn't well, they imply he's drunk. That's true, they should be focusing on the accomplishment of Bat, after all that's what it was all about. Get well Meat, we all love you.

Carole

well, there WAS one option to win for him:

He could have showed up sober ;)



*sits back, relaxes, sips his tea and waits for the stones to be thrown*

[AndrewG]

Just don't hold that tea too close to your face when they throw a stone at you! :shock:

[carole]

well, there WAS one option to win for him:

He could have showed up sober ;)



*sits back, relaxes, sips his tea and waits for the stones to be thrown*

I'll throw the first one then!!!!!! Meat WAS sober, he already explained he had vertifo, that's why he was unsteady. It's bad enough the press saying stuff like that about him, he doesn't need it from his fans as well.

Carole

[Pudding]

I don't believe Meat was drunk either, but I find it puzzling how he was coherent to say he had Vertigo several times but incoherent for everything else he said.

I hope he gets better soon.

Pud :twisted:

[Monstro]

Meat drunk? Nah


I'm more concerned as to why RJ wants to get stoned!!!!!

[AndyK]

A couple of things.

It's getting a little tiresome to come on here and see RJ trying to start an argument when there isn't one to start in the first place.

Pud, I still think you've missed my point, not that it matters :p

[For crying out loud]

grrr, met such a horrible woman today! we were discussing music on the bus, and i said how i was a big fan of meatloaf, she said, and i quote "oh that arrogant b*****d, i cant stand that man, did you see how much of a tw*t he made of himself the other night, it was all over the papers, blaming vertigo, he was bloody drunk!" when asked whether she had ever listened to any of his work, "why would i listen to someone who behaves like that in public, i've seen clips of him on T.V he's so arrogant and agressive on stage!" unfortunatly even after three stops of explanation theratre and acting on stage seemed beyond her grasp! i have no problem with other people liking different things, but sometimes people are awful, and the mwdia doesn't help!!! :@

[AndrewG]

"why would i listen to someone who behaves like that in public, i've seen clips of him on T.V he's so arrogant and agressive on stage!"

If someone said that to me on the bus I'd say:
"Why? Well maybe cuz it's brilliant music sung by a fantastic singer/performer. But if you want to stick with shit music that will probably never touch your soul be my guest. Good luck to you. Oh there's your stop, mind you don't trip on the way out the door."
;-)

[duke knooby]

you shouldda just offered her some crisps ;)

[RadioMaster]

remember that plan doesnt work in england (at least not at 3am)

[MeatGrl1]

you shouldda just offered her some crisps ;)

:lmao: Brilliant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pudding]

Pud, I still think you've missed my point, not that it matters :p

Just call me the Tottenham Hotspurs of the board :))

Pud :twisted:

[Pudding]

grrr, met such a horrible woman today! we were discussing music on the bus, and i said how i was a big fan of meatloaf

I take it it was a woman you knew or was it just a random conversation with a stranger? I wonder how that conversation would start?

"Nice weather we're having"
"It's not bad is it"
"I'm a big fan of Meat Loaf by the way, he's the best"

You probably took her by surprise.

Pud :twisted:

[Paul191]

"Nice weather we're having"
"It's not bad is it"
"I'm a big fan of Meat Loaf by the way, he's the best"

Pud :twisted:

Hahahahahaha! Nice one.

I do think she said they were talking about music in general though before the whole Meat thing popped up.

[carole]

If someone said that to me on the bus I'd say:
"Why? Well maybe cuz it's brilliant music sung by a fantastic singer/performer. But if you want to stick with shit music that will probably never touch your soul be my guest. Good luck to you. Oh there's your stop, mind you don't trip on the way out the door."
;-)

That's very articulate. It's always easy to think of what to say afterwards. When I'm put on the spot or taken by surprise I usually can't think of anything clever to say, and later think, I wish I'd said that!!!! I've had so many arguments with people over Meat and been given weird looks over the years, it's not funny. Other people just don't get it. If those people knew i went to England to see him this year, they'd really shake their head.

Carole

[carole]

you shouldda just offered her some crisps ;)


I'm a bit dumb here, I don't get it!!!!

Carole

[RadioMaster]

dont worry, noone really 'gets' jonty

[AndrewG]

If those people knew i went to England to see him this year, they'd really shake their head.

Carole

They can shake their heads all they want, it might jump start their brains. ;-)

[djfierce]

ok i could write a really long post which will only repeat alot of whats been said already so these are my thoughts

i agree with pretty much everything pud has said :shock:

[djfierce]

That's very articulate. It's always easy to think of what to say afterwards. When I'm put on the spot or taken by surprise I usually can't think of anything clever to say, and later think, I wish I'd said that!!!! I've had so many arguments with people over Meat and been given weird looks over the years, it's not funny. Other people just don't get it. If those people knew i went to England to see him this year, they'd really shake their head.

Carole

i never met a single person in my life that admitted liking Meat till i went to a concert, then i found fecking loads of them :roll:

[RadioMaster]

and now you cant get rid of them lol

[samurai7]

who's Meat?

[Wario]

aww just saw the videos and stuff :(

Hope hes feel'n fine on the 24th.

[mszee]

"why would i listen to someone who behaves like that in public, i've seen clips of him on T.V he's so arrogant and agressive on stage!" unfortunatly even after three stops of explanation theratre and acting on stage seemed beyond her grasp! i have no problem with other people liking different things, but sometimes people are awful, and the mwdia doesn't help!!! :@

This is off topic...but that's what I am famous for...

Isn't it something most of people say about Amy Winehouse??? Are you the one that would say something like that about her too?
If person isn't a fan, they are not fan for whatever reason...

[mszee]

Just call me the Tottenham Hotspurs of the board :))

Pud :twisted:

What is Tottenham Hotspurs??? I can't wait to call you THAT!!!

[AndrewG]

What is Tottenham Hotspurs??? I can't wait to call you THAT!!!

Isn't this a UK forum? :-P

[mszee]

Isn't this a UK forum? :-P

Yes, it is, and you're entitled to chalk this question off to my ignorance. Thank you very much in advance.

[geordieloaf]

What is Tottenham Hotspurs??? I can't wait to call you THAT!!!

It's the only football (soccer) team that's worse than us (Newcastle) at the moment.

[mszee]

It's the only football (soccer) team that's worse than us (Newcastle) at the moment.

I see...thank you!!!

Pud...you're a Tottenham Hotspurs!!!

[RadioMaster]

It's the only football (soccer) team that's worse than us (Newcastle) at the moment.

youve obviously never been to cologne then!!!

[geordieloaf]

No i don't know how cologne are doing but it must be pretty bad if there in a worse state than Newcastle at the minute!

[Pudding]

Hahahahahaha! Nice one.

I do think she said they were talking about music in general though before the whole Meat thing popped up.

I just find it a little odd having a random conversation with a total stranger about anything other than the weather, let alone Meat Loaf or music. I usually have my random conversations in the pub after a few beers, like I did last night.

Reminds me of a joke I heard a while back, well I thought it was funny:

Q: How do you know if someone's from Yorkshire?
A: Because they'll tell you

Now it's how do you know if someone's a Meat Loaf fan? Because they'll tell you :lmao:

Pud :twisted:

[mszee]

:lol:

[AndyK]

I'm a Yorkshireman :))

[mszee]

I'm a Yorkshireman :))

*Chokes on soda*

[RadioMaster]

Reminds me of a joke I heard a while back, well I thought it was funny:

Q: How do you know if someone's from Yorkshire?
A: Because they'll tell you


Be careful with jokes like that, you ole' racist :p :devil:

[Battybarb]

i never met a single person in my life that admitted liking Meat till i went to a concert, then i found fecking loads of them :roll:


When i tell a lot of people that i am a Meat fan they look at me as if i am from another planet..lol..(( i do wonder myself if i am sometimes...lol..:lol:))

He is like Marmite((a Simon Cowell quote))either you love him or hate him..and i love him..

[24K]

When i tell a lot of people that i am a Meat fan they look at me as if i am from another planet..lol..(( i do wonder myself if i am sometimes...lol..:lol:))

He is like Marmite((a Simon Cowell quote))either you love him or hate him..and i love him..

Yea i think Simons quote was hysterical, my hubby had just said before him, well people will either love or hate Diana who sang on the X factor. I hate her voice, some people will love it!
I don't give a FF, if people think i am odd for liking Meat and seeing loads of his concerts, my money, my time, my choice. I don't tell them what to do with their time or money!
My dad is a huge Meat fan, he introduced me to his music with Bat 1 . God bless him!

[Pudding]

Be careful with jokes like that, you ole' racist :p :devil:

I did think about it for a moment before posting, but since I'm originally from Yorkshire and I have a sense of humour, I threw caution to the wind :))

The actual statement though is true. Here in NZ whenever someone asks me where I'm from it's always "Yorkshire" that I say first not England or Britain and there's a few other people from Yorkshire here too and they say the same.

Pud :twisted:

[mszee]

Be careful with jokes like that, you ole' racist :p :devil:

I did think about it for a moment before posting, but since I'm originally from Yorkshire and I have a sense of humour, I threw caution to the wind :))

The actual statement though is true. Here in NZ whenever someone asks me where I'm from it's always "Yorkshire" that I say first not England or Britain and there's a few other people from Yorkshire here too and they say the same.

Pud :twisted:

Oh, I think RJ is just jealous...

[Heg19]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/30/rock_opera_tedium/


OH MY GOD she is going to be so sorry she wrote this, jumped up cow

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: Why?
You going to plant a car bomb for her?

It's a piece written by someone who obviously doesn't like Meat, or his music.

Ask me to do her job in 20 years and report on the special gong for Could It Be Magic by Take That, and you will probably get much worse than anything she could ever say about Meat :shrug: .

If anything, she shows herself as being extremely biased on the subject, and is not professional enough to write a balanced piece about something not to her taste :yawn: .

And for a "news" (funny enough, a lot of the news links are to other news reporting sites, so they are hardly big time are they?) site calling itself The Register - biting the hand that feeds it, gives a bit of an indication that they want to piss people off.

They might as well call it the Daily Troll.


People like this are much too insignificant to worry about and only have any real impact when you give them the attention they crave (I put it down to them not being given enough cuddles as children :bleh: )

Best way to hurt them is to completely ignore them.

[mszee]

You do have to understand that reporters who report on artists (I know this in particular from such a reporter) have to follow their publication line, right?

I mean...they do have a chance to quit if they disagree...or get fired...but they do have to follow "party line"...

[allrevvedup]

People's careers in all walks of life have been built on controversey...the reporter gets noticed, for a little while but as much as it is blunt, a lot of it is stating fact...in relation to the health problems

[Heg19]

no nothing like that just tell her what i think. it's a right load of crap!!! those insults are just uncalled for and i've told her so. I know alot about the Media and how it works i worked in it for a few years but i had to tell her what i thought

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: You've reacted to her, which is just she wanted.

A troll feeds of negative feedback from annoying people (such as e mails complaining about what they've said in an article)

No feedback = no food = sad troll :cry: .


"YOU B@STARD" = Dinner Bell = Trollerlicious :D :p

e mailing this woman is just giving her the attention she craves and the vindication she needs.

IGNORE HER.

[Heg19]

whatever you say, but she should be told, i think someone bet me to it lol.

[mszee]

whatever you say, but she should be told, i think someone bet me to it lol.

Well, now that explains it...

[Heg19]

Well, now that explains it...
? forget i mentioned it she just annoyed me thats all

[mszee]

? forget i mentioned it she just annoyed me thats all

I referred to someone betting you...

[Heg19]

i meant bet me to it, replied to her before i did, got in before me. Not someone betting on me to reply, thats not what i meant lol

[mszee]

i meant bet me to it, replied to her before i did, got in before me. Not someone betting on me to reply, thats not what i meant lol

Oh...well, I am foreign...

[mszee]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...BEAT me to it...is that it???

[Heg19]

Yeah thats it lol i'm a Yorkshire lass lol sorry

[mszee]

Yeah thats it lol i'm a Yorkshire lass lol sorry

Ah...well, doesn't mean a thing to me...I am Ukranian in New Jersey...LOL

[RadioMaster]

Best way to hurt them is to completely ignore them.

Or to wait for them in a dark alley with a baseball bat :kickass: :))

[Heg19]

Ah...well, doesn't mean a thing to me...I am Ukranian in New Jersey...LOL
lol that is a strange one nevermind we got there eventually, your English is very good!

[Heg19]

Or to wait for them in a dark alley with a baseball bat :kickass: :))

lol now now

[For crying out loud]

i dont know, RJ might have a good idea going there...lol

[The Flying Mouse]

Or to wait for them in a dark alley with a baseball bat :kickass: :))


:twisted: Send her a valentines card signed RJ :devil:

[mszee]

lol that is a strange one nevermind we got there eventually, your English is very good!

Yep...as long as we get there...LOL...my English should be good...cause I have no Ukranian left in me and only so-so Russian left...LOL

[RadioMaster]

:twisted: Send her a valentines card signed RJ :devil:

we should just agree to send her WarioLoaf over for a while: :kickass:

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: You evil twisted b^$tard :yikes:

[mszee]

we should just agree to send her WarioLoaf over for a while: :kickass:

AND...he will probably enjoy it too...he is like 15 or 16...there is nothing like an older woman at that age...

[allrevvedup]

which would lead to the question of "so are you speaking from experience?"

[mszee]

which would lead to the question of "so are you speaking from experience?"

It would lead to this question only if it's a rhetorical question and some people want to live to celebrate their 31st birthday...

[RadioMaster]

beat me to it lol

[Pudding]

i meant bet me to it, replied to her before i did, got in before me. Not someone betting on me to reply, thats not what i meant lol

You mean 'beat' NOT bet then?

FM is right, the worse thing you can do is to respond to it/her. There's been plenty of articles like this in the past and no doubt there'll be plenty more in the future. Water off a ducks back.

Pud :twisted:

[geordieloaf]

You always seem to get extremes when people talk about Meat, i don't think it's worth getting wound up over. Just let them get on with it!

[djfierce]

prob just me then but thought it was so crappy it was funny :p cant be arsed to get annoyed bout things like that any more, Meat is hardly gonna lose fans based on anything like that!

[MeatGrl1]

That artical was so obviously out to attack that it bordered on funny, not something to get all het up about. I've read far worse and insulting things about Meat than that... :shock: !

[Heg19]

i'm not het up, annoyed, worked up etc... it was just for the few mins i was reading it."You mean 'beat' NOT bet then?" What i said is what i meant, it means the same thing where i come from.

[Pudding]

You mean 'beat' NOT bet then?" What i said is what i meant, it means the same thing where i come from.

No it doesn't because I'm originally from Huddersfield and it doesn't mean the same thing at all. It's pronounced the same not written the same because we speak like cabbages.

Pud :twisted:

[Heg19]

No it doesn't because I'm originally from Huddersfield and it doesn't mean the same thing at all. It's pronounced the same not written the same because we speak like cabbages.

Pud :twisted:

Oh whatever pud sorry i forgot that you know everything. Just leave it now instead of trying to correct and argue with me all the time i'm bloody sick of it. This thread is about Meat winning the Q award and articles and what have you, not you telling me how i can and can't speak if you don't understand me tough. Now please can you stop this and leave me alone!!!!!!!!!!!

[RadioMaster]

awww

[Heg19]

Anyway i was going to ask what a Q award looks like? never saw a photo of him with it. Is it a big Q lol. Also has he won one before from there?

[djfierce]

lol actually it is a Q not very big though :p

[djfierce]

http://media.mlxxfc.net/meat q awards.jpg

http://media.mlxxfc.net/meat q awards 2.jpg

[Pudding]

Just leave it now instead of trying to correct and argue with me all the time i'm bloody sick of it.

ALL the time? prove it or stop lying.

Pud :twisted:

[Sarge]

http://media.mlxxfc.net/meat q awards.jpg


A lady in a funny dress, a guy with a beer (?) in his hand and another guy who looks as if he should have better stayed in bed that day. Appears a little bizarre. :wtf:

[Heg19]

Thanks for the pics they are great, thanks for posting. I didn't mean everytime PUD but this is the second time you have upset me on here, now please just leave it i am no liar and you know what you are doing, just drop this because you are succeeding at upsetting me so i'm sure you are now happy!! That is not what i come on here for so i'm begging you now leave me alone.

[RadioMaster]

ALL the time?

Pud :twisted:

most of the time :p

[Pudding]

:nuts: :wall: :shrug: :retard: :kickass:

Pud :twisted:

[Heg19]

haha hilarious!!! Who is the women at the back of the pictures?? she looks either bored or slightly bemused by the whole thing haha or was she there to help him off the stage? i looked on loads of sites for some pictures but couldn't find any so thanks again for posting them are there anymore? xx

[djfierce]

you're welcome heg :-) there were only 2 of each person accepting their award, then pics from the aftershow party which we know meat wasnt at