Rockpalast 1978

[Pudding]

So Meat has said that the Rockpalast gig of 1978 will be released to DVD with added interview - YAAAY!!!

For those interested the setlist is:

01 Bolero (4'20'')
02 Bat Out Of Hell (11'00'')
03 Hot Summer Night / You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth (5'00'')
04 All Revued Up And No Place To Go (13'00'')
05 Paradise By The Dashboard Ligh (27'00'')
06 Johnny B. Goode (7'10'')
07 River Deep Mountain High (5'10'')
08 REPRISE: Johnny B. Goode (2'10'')
09 2 Out Of 3 Ain't Bad (7'40'')
10 REPRISE: All Revued Up (2'05'')

Paradise By The Dashboard Light 27 minutes long :shock:

[MeatGrl1]

Awesome :weee:.

Thanks for this, have it on CD I think but it would be awesome on DVD too :cool:.

[sexyeyes_jo]

looking forward for the dvd to be released

[Evil One]

Do we know for definite that Heaven Can Wait and For Crying Out Loud were not done at this show and the footage just never aired?

[Wario]

Do we know for definite that Heaven Can Wait and For Crying Out Loud were not done at this show and the footage just never aired?

yes. HCW was a special performance and FCOL was only performed prior to meat's gruff voice change

Finally something for a true meat loaf fan to drool over :DDDD

rockpalast > MSO > 3 bats LIVE

now all we need is bad attitude live (unedited) on DVD

[Pudding]

According to the Rockpalast website (http://www.rockpalastarchiv.de/setlist/set1978.html) (you might need to scroll down a bit) that's all that's listed for the setlist.

Out of interest, when you scroll down the page you'll pass a group called Rubinoos, Kasim Sulton was in that group for a period of time, but I don't know if he played in that concert. SueW will probably know more if he did or didn't.

[Sarge]

now all we need is bad attitude live (unedited) on DVD

Bad Attitude Live is the best official live video so far. But I'm afraid your wish is in vain.

According to the Rockpalast website (http://www.rockpalastarchiv.de/setlist/set1978.html)...

FYI: That is not the official Rockpalast page but a very useful private archive. The official page is www.rockpalast.de (German only, sorry) on which you can find info on current DVD releases, too. It also has an archive but it does not contain info on concerts that took place before 1996.

Additional info (slightly off-topic): Those of you who like Marion Raven can watch her Rockpalast performance here:

http://www.rockpalast.de/video.phtml?id=marion_raven&a=499&o=

[RSG]

Will this be released in North America? The Meat and Jim 1970's gig

[carole]

That sounds great, I can't wait till it comes out.

Carole

[RadioMaster]

looks like my prayers, and candles, and chanting and dancing have finally had a result :))
Awesome!
I just hope it will be remastered in some way (at least the video), or that at least someone takes that damn timer out that blocks a fourth of the screen lol


Additional info (slightly off-topic): Those of you who like Marion Raven can watch her Rockpalast performance here:

http://www.rockpalast.de/video.phtml?id=marion_raven&a=499&o=

watch it! there a good chance of spotting ME in the front row :))

[Sarge]

looks like my prayers, and candles, and chanting and dancing have finally had a result :))

Please continue praying and dancing, we still need a proper DVD release of Bad Attitude Live.

watch it! there a good chance of spotting ME in the front row :))

How could I forget to mention that. :doh: For those who are not Marion fans but fancy RadioMaster: Just click the link for IACBTM below the video. :))

[RadioMaster]

I'd much more fancy a proper release of the 'History of Meat Loaf' show from Florida 93. Especially as it cut off before the end of BOOH :bicker: and is missing some other songs that were recorded as well.

Or maybe a release of the Hudson Theater 93 show with Mr Steinman joining Meat on stage...according to some people the show must have been recorded on video, as there are a few snippets on several documentaries. If I ever got to see that one on DVD, I'd die happy.


<--- off to buy more candles

[Sarge]

I agree, that would be great. I guess I'm gonna buy some candles, too, but I'm not very good at dancing and chanting. I'll probably awake the wrong powers and cause a release of a CD that has "All songs by Diane Warren" printed on the cover. :twisted:

[RadioMaster]

lol

[AndyK]

That's great news :))

I too would love to see the Bad Attitude concert from Brixton relelased on DVD as well, not only because I'm in it ;-)

[Evil One]

Yes to Bad Attitude Live and History Of Meat Loaf Live. There was also a concert recorded in Germany on the Born To Rock tour. Bat, AFL and Rubber were shown on some TV programme.

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Yes to Bad Attitude Live and History Of Meat Loaf Live. There was also a concert recorded in Germany on the Born To Rock tour. Bat, AFL and Rubber were shown on some TV programme.

Yep the Germany concert would be good. A memory of past productions.

I'd much more fancy a proper release of the 'History of Meat Loaf' show from Florida 93. Especially as it cut off before the end of BOOH :bicker: and is missing some other songs that were recorded as well.

Or maybe a release of the Hudson Theater 93 show with Mr Steinman joining Meat on stage...according to some people the show must have been recorded on video, as there are a few snippets on several documentaries. If I ever got to see that one on DVD, I'd die happy.


<--- off to buy more candles


Which other songs were recorded but editied out btw?

[mickp]

This is great news - hope it gets the remaster treatment it deserves (the benchmark being Bruce at Hammersmith 1975). Would be nice to come with a live CD from that era - eg remastered my father's place or similar

As to other releases -

Bad attitude live with restored songs not in the original release (esp I'm gonna lover her if it exists) I think this is a great show and probably the best produced of all the 80s videos

I would like one of the 81/82 shows to be spruced up for reissue. My first Meat live shows. Wembley is probably the better production and there should be more out there (the sleeve always used to list read em and weep). I do like the Dortmund show though - Davey Johnstone is great


I think both the above would be marketable as full DVDs (and at least 85 and 82 are based on previous vhs issues), not sure about other shows but like others I would like to see Hudson 1993 (at least include the Jim bits as extras on the rockpalast dvd!)

Also there is another 89/92 show that is probably more 'pro shot' than Toads - Pat Thrall is in it so its either 89/90 or 92

Having said all that - will settle for rockpalast, many thanks to Meat!

[AndrewG]

Good post Mick.
Bruce at Hammersmith 75 sounds like it was recorded yesterday. The quality is unbelievable imo.

As others have pointed out I'd love some 1993 material too as Meat was just incredible then imo.

[The Flying Mouse]

looks like my prayers, and candles, and chanting and dancing have finally had a result :))

:twisted: :pics:

If I ever got to see that one on DVD, I'd die happy.


So, just to get this straight, what you're saying is if that ever gets released, we can shoot you?

The day gets better and better :mrgreen: :p

Will be great to have something new in the shops 8)
There is a vast collection of material that could be put out instead of these tired old comilations.

[Evil One]

Which other songs were recorded but editied out btw?
Roll Over Beethoven for starters.

[mickp]

While we're asking for re-releases, can I add the Dead Ringer movie? The original Alan Nicholls cut. Pure gold rarity value

Thanks in anticipation Meat!!

[Wario]

Which other songs were recorded but editied out btw?

BA Live: Jump'n the gun, Nowhere Fast, love her for both of us

History of ML Live: All Revved Up, Frying Pan, BOOH (Well the beginning and end), DRFL, Everything Louder, and Roll Over Beethoven

[mickp]

History of ML live unedited would be a hell of a show on DVD

[meatloaf-unofficial]

BA Live: Jump'n the gun, Nowhere Fast, love her for both of us

History of ML Live: All Revved Up, Frying Pan, BOOH (Well the beginning and end), DRFL, Everything Louder, and Roll Over Beethoven

I want this released, I want this released!!!!! Love Live versions of Frying Pan - fake flames etc.... :lol: WOuld of been a good show I guess.

[Wario]

I want this released, I want this released!!!!! Love Live versions of Frying Pan - fake flames etc.... :lol: WOuld of been a good show I guess.

no flames = BOOH II Tour

[allrevvedup]

there were flames for the show i saw in 94...which was still the everything louder tour.

[Wario]

there were flames for the show i saw in 94...which was still the everything louder tour.

really? not in the footage i have seen

[RadioMaster]

(at least include the Jim bits as extras on the rockpalast dvd!)

dont think that's a possiblity as the rights to those clips (hell, if they even exist!) would be owned by someone completely different than the rockpalast footage.

I dont even think that the descision to release this came from Meat. It's all in the hands of who owns the rights. In this case it would be one of the German public broadcasting stations, who were responsible for recording/airing. As it was recorded in Offenbach, HR would mostly be likely. Although it could be that by now Rockpalast have their own distribution company. (not sure on that one)

[Pudding]

dont think that's a possiblity as the rights to those clips (hell, if they even exist!) would be owned by someone completely different than the rockpalast footage.

What the hell are you talking about? Are you suggesting that any clip featuring Jim can't be shown?

[RadioMaster]

'course not. I'm saying the people who are gonna publish the rockpalast dvd probably wont have the rights to put the Jim clips from Hudson Theater on there as well.

[MeatGrl1]

Realized I was confusing this with Live At The Bottom Line that was taped in NYC, but as this is filmed in Germany but has more or less the same set list I can be forgiven for mixing it up :lol:.

[Wario]

Realized I was confusing this with Live At The Bottom Line that was taped in NYC, but as this is filmed in Germany but has more or less the same set list I can be forgiven for mixing it up :lol:.

i always mix this up with the 1982 rockpop concert cause of the name differences.

[RadioMaster]

not easy to mix up actually...one is outstanding, the other one is utter crap (imho of course;))

[MeatGrl1]

Personally I don't think any concert Meat's done is crap exactly but there is one that I never want to relive again, those who were at it know exactly what I am talking about :(.

[RadioMaster]

have you seen dortmund 82??

[Wario]

have you seen dortmund 82??

Yea, have you?

Like honestly, he F'ed up two out of three aint bad......

Though It does have it's pros (IE: Gimme Shelter)

[The Flying Mouse]

Personally I don't think any concert Meat's done is crap exactly but there is one that I never want to relive again, those who were at it know exactly what I am talking about :(.

:twisted: There is not much chance of the show you're talking about ever being released on DVD :wtf:

[MeatGrl1]

Oh was that when he was drunk ?

Think I saw a song from that and he did sound out of tune :shock:, thought I would never say that but he did, is that the one your talking about RJ ?

[Wario]

but there is one that I never want to relive again, those who were at it know exactly what I am talking about :(.

yea RAH sucked from what everyone says :D

[Pudding]

Why's it difficult for some fans to accept that Meat has done some crap shows? I'm sure Meat himself would be the first to admit that not every show he's done has been great or even good and he has had some crap gigs. He does his best, but at the end of the day he's only human.

[MeatGrl1]

yea RAH sucked from what everyone says :D

NOT what I was talking about it was a year later !!

[RadioMaster]

i think everyone who isnt as thick as a rhino's skin gets what youre talking about

[Evil One]

Also there is another 89/92 show that is probably more 'pro shot' than Toads - Pat Thrall is in it so its either 89/90 or 92
I've never heard of such a thing. Do you have any more details?

[Wario]

I've never heard of such a thing. Do you have any more details?

well I have. It was used for the behind the music documentary

[RSG]

but will 78 gig be released in North America? where has Meat mentioned this?

[Pudding]

It'll be released on Amazon no doubt with all the other Rockpalast gigs, so you can buy it in North America.

[lisa01]

I have the cd can anyone tell me when the dvd will be out i think it will be a fantastic dvd when it comes out if anyone has any info about this dvd please feel free to send me a pm thanks

[MeatGrl1]

but will 78 gig be released in North America? where has Meat mentioned this?

New Hit's Out Of Hell thread ;).

[AndrewG]

Personally I don't think any concert Meat's done is crap exactly but there is one that I never want to relive again, those who were at it know exactly what I am talking about :(.

Though I agree with Pud, I'm sure Meat HAS done crap gigs, certainly what he himself would consider crap ones, of the type of gigs you are talking about there were in fact TWO. Both of which I was not at but certainly made me feel extremely sad. I'm glad he has bounced back and as ForCryingOutLoud put it: Jesus came back to life once.., so what?! Meat Loaf does this on every tour... :shock: :))

I have the cd can anyone tell me when the dvd will be out i think it will be a fantastic dvd when it comes out if anyone has any info about this dvd please feel free to send me a pm thanks
If there is any info on a release date I would appreciate a post/thread on this forum rather than a PM sent to a single individual. Lol. :))

[MeatGrl1]

:twisted: There is not much chance of the show you're talking about ever being released on DVD :wtf:

I agree and wouldn't want it on DVD, I was against all those YT clips when they emerged !

[Sarge]

In this case it would be one of the German public broadcasting stations, who were responsible for recording/airing. As it was recorded in Offenbach, HR would mostly be likely. Although it could be that by now Rockpalast have their own distribution company. (not sure on that one)

Rockpalast is a WDR series, HR doesn't have anything to do with it. I have a Rory Gallagher Rockpalast show that was recorded in Wiesbaden (i.e. within HR area), yet it was produced by WDR. The licensing is done by a distributor. It used to be Studio Hamburg, as far as I know but I don't know whether that is still the case.

[RSG]

New Hit's Out Of Hell thread ;).

ty, hun

[RadioMaster]

Rockpalast is a WDR series, HR doesn't have anything to do with it. I have a Rory Gallagher Rockpalast show that was recorded in Wiesbaden (i.e. within HR area), yet it was produced by WDR. The licensing is done by a distributor. It used to be Studio Hamburg, as far as I know but I don't know whether that is still the case.

thanks for enlightening me :-)

[RadioMaster]

if you dont know what youre up for with a possible Rockpalast DVD, check out this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNPUkaDtv_g

[MeatGrl1]

Awesome clip, thanks for sharing :cool:.

[Pudding]

if you dont know what youre up for with a possible Rockpalast DVD, check out this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNPUkaDtv_g

Or you could go direct to Rockpalast at Rockman ---> HERE (http://jimsteinman.com/rockpalast.htm)

[lorenzoduke]

A DVD of the Rockpalast show would be amazing...I was lucky enough to snag a bootleg of (I believe) the whole show a few years ago, and it's excellent.

Is this definitely confirmed then? On the way, not just a hope and a prayer?

Of course a live (through the years) anthology would be even better, but the fact that there's no Bat 1 era Meat shows available officially is a crying show and something that should be rectified immediately.

[MeatGrl1]

A DVD of the Rockpalast show would be amazing...I was lucky enough to snag a bootleg of (I believe) the whole show a few years ago, and it's excellent.

:facepalm::bleh::rly:... :lol:.

[RadioMaster]

:??:

[Pudding]

:nuts:

[The Flying Mouse]

:facepalm::bleh::rly:... :lol:.


:twisted: Problem?

If you read the rules you will see that we don't mind bootlegs being "mentioned".
It's when bootlegs are offered for sale or trade (or even for free) that we start editing and locking stuff.

If a post crosses the line the moderators will take the appropriate action (we'll also do that with other stuff like merging threads).

[RadioMaster]

what's a bootleg? :bleh:

[daveake]

http://content.pyzam.com/funnypics/animals/no_idea.jpg

[For crying out loud]

so let me get this right, there releasing a dvd of the 1978 show in germany that has the annoying timer on the side? thats brilliant!!! i have collected from youtube clips of that concert and put them together on my computer but theres huge holes. its gotta be one of his best, he and karla just genuinly look like their having fun! whens it out? :D

[daveake]

Yes, that's it as I understand it.

btw, the complete bootleg without holes but with that damn annoying timer is around, though now of course you might as well wait for the pukka release.

I did once run the video through a program that removes static logos etc., but it didn't cope at all well with the timer.

[For crying out loud]

yay, happiness!!!

[AndrewG]

Poor Bunny... :-(

[Pudding]

There's no officially released Rockpalast concert DVD that I know of that has the timer on it. I doubt the timer will be there on the Meat Loaf one.

[mickp]

As Rockman demonstrates there is official footage without the timer on - just happens the only version some kind person could purloin for bootleg purposes was some rough vt edit or something that had the master timer on

[RadioMaster]

there's a difference between official and officially released videos. The one on rockman is the version that aired on german tv, which, afaik, doesnt exist in a better quality. The one with the timer must be a master tape or soemthing, cause it containes more songs than the tv version. When they actually go and release it, I'm pretty sure they'll find a way to use a version without the timer.

[AndrewG]

Doesn't Meat have this type of stuff locked away in a vault or something?

http://media.mlxxfc.net/vault-in-the-courtyard.jpg

[RadioMaster]

wasnt there an interview, a few years ago, where he said 90% of his archive got stolen during a move?

[Wario]

wasnt there an interview, a few years ago, where he said 90% of his archive got stolen during a move?

Yea, i am the culprit :D

(God, I wish)

[RSG]

With today's technology, the numbers can be removed. It would be noticable if you were looking for it, maybe