RIP: michael jackson [Archive]

MeatGrl1

26 Jun 2009, 02:38

I was not a fan particuarly of him as a person but he was part of LMP's life in 1994 and he did produce some awesome tunes, I can't believe he's died it just seems really surreal :(. May he now be laid to rest.

http://i40.tinypic.com/20tpkbp.jpg

I remember the first interview and they were asked if they have sex, Lisa replied;
"Do we have sex? Yes ! Yes! Yes!"

LOL.
The following year, 1995 she starred in his video, You Are Not Alone, one of my personal favourtes of his.

You Are Not Alone vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s9EAZa3aIQ)

It's very sad.

R.I.P

mszee

26 Jun 2009, 02:59

Ah Jesus...

meat_loaf

26 Jun 2009, 03:02

Rest in peace michael i was a big fan have over 20 michael jackson DVDs and his full discography going back the the jackson 5 days he will be missed but now at least he can rest in peace.

Vickip

26 Jun 2009, 03:09

Rest in peace michael i was a big fan have over 20 michael jackson DVDs and his full discography going back the the jackson 5 days he will be missed but now at least he can rest in peace.

I wasn't a fan of Michael Jackson after he got older ... but I grew up listening to the Jackson 5. My sympathies to his family .. may he rest in peace.

And I'm sorry to go off topic here, but rest in peace Farrah Fawcett, who died today as well.

AndrewG

26 Jun 2009, 04:06

I was not a fan particuarly of him as a person

Don't believe everything bad you hear in the media about a single human being.

mszee

26 Jun 2009, 04:07

Nigel Lithgoe is on TV now giving tribute to MJ

Monstro

26 Jun 2009, 04:10

Don't believe everything bad you hear in the media about a single human being.

Ain't that the truth

Monstro

26 Jun 2009, 04:22

It's a shame that someone who gave so much to the industry that completely ~~~~ed him up will probably just be remembered for all the wrong reasons.

MissAsh

26 Jun 2009, 05:30

I can't believe a couple of the things I've seen while watching CNN tonight, it's actually made me feel physically sick. :evil: :evil:

I'd never say I'm a big "fan" but I've grown up with a lot of MJ's music and still listen to a few songs every now and again while in the mood for that music. This all seems so surreal.

R.I.P.

Rockette

26 Jun 2009, 06:50

Michael, it's final. Scratch out the insane game. You fought it. You bought it. But Michael, you did make a change. Long may his star shine brightly.

Pudding

26 Jun 2009, 07:26

That's one less child molestor off the streets, lets hope Gary Glitter is next.

allrevvedup

26 Jun 2009, 07:39

Sad news, but as a performer he was something else up til the early 90's. He could never top thriller and i think he spent the rest of the time trying to do so.

Maybe this crazy schedule of concerts put too much pressure on him but hopefully he will be remembered for the good parts of his life and not the bad parts (which did exist unfortunately)

Pudding

26 Jun 2009, 07:46

I wonder what was the turning point that sent him nuts :nuts: because he was one hell of a performer then he had a complete meltdown.

RadioMaster

26 Jun 2009, 09:27

I'm shocked.
Nothing more to say.

Jayd

26 Jun 2009, 10:36

Absolute Legend, just a shame he was so naive, and let people take advantage of him. I agree he went a bit wayward these last few years, but he brought so much joy to people's lives and that should not be forgotten.

R.I.P
:(

meatloaf-unofficial

26 Jun 2009, 10:45

I was totally shocked when I found out. Was in bed just catching the late ITV news and it came on as "Breaking News" - I couldn't sit up quick enough!!

Its a shame, even though I wasn't a fan of his, it still makes you feel sad, I mean he has a HUGE fanclub and I also feel upset cause he had O2 dates and they sold like hot cakes....

I guess we all pass away at some stage in our lives but being 50, that is way to early!!

RIP Mr Jackson

daveake

26 Jun 2009, 10:53

I guess we all pass away at some stage in our lives

Sounds like a reasonable guess ;-)

50 is too early, but with the way he treated his body - through operations and drugs - he did well to last that long.

His death is just the last step in a very sad degeneration of his life that started many years ago.

MeatGrl1

26 Jun 2009, 11:03

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AndyK

26 Jun 2009, 11:24

Whether you liked him or not there's no escaping the influence he has had and the contribution he has made to music over the years. In his day an incredible performer. Such a shame that those around him that he trusted couldn't protect him from his own naivety.

RIP Michael.

LucyK!

26 Jun 2009, 11:34

Pud you're quick to jump on other people's post that you think are inappropriate or just plain stupid, just once would you at least attempt to keep your mouth shut instead of purposely trying to pi$$ people off.

Not to let ignorance hijack this thread...I'm absolutely stunned at the news. Everyone here knows what it's like to have one particular performer that they adore so I really cannot imagine what those Michael Jackson fans are experiencing right now, just awful.

hayley

26 Jun 2009, 11:39

Always loved his music was such a shock last night to hear the news and wish i had something more profound to say on the matter appart from RIP michael jackson thank you for the music :(

Sarge

26 Jun 2009, 12:11

This is very tragic and sad. Although he apparently had a quite bizarre lifestyle I didn't expect him too die that young. I am shocked.

Pudding

26 Jun 2009, 12:24

Pud you're quick to jump on other people's post that you think are inappropriate or just plain stupid, just once would you at least attempt to keep your mouth shut instead of purposely trying to pi$$ people off.

I take it you don't have kids or have had a family member who was molested as children? there's no excusing that at all. And I have acknowledged "he was one hell of a performer"

LucyK!

26 Jun 2009, 12:50

If that's your opinion of him then I respect it, but there's a time and place to say it and perhaps a thread of condolence isn't it.

MeatGrl1

26 Jun 2009, 13:26

Don't believe everything bad you hear in the media about a single human being.

Just because I said that I was not being disrespectful or otherwise and the media never influenced that opinion, it was just simply a personal opinion, though if you read the rest of my post I clearly state that I like a good number of his songs...

daveake

26 Jun 2009, 13:57

His death seems to have helped his record sales somewhat - Amazon top CD sellers (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/music/ref=pd_ts_m_h__bcrm_music)

Cristina

26 Jun 2009, 14:13

I don't think he was really preparing for the upcoming tour, my impression is that he was already extremely weak..

RockingBat

26 Jun 2009, 14:30

He was a Thriller in our lives by being Bad and Dangerous, though Off the wall at times, he will always be remembered in HIStory as the greatest pop singer of all time.

I was a big fan and grew up listening to his music; it was a shock to hear the tragic news, and will light a candle in his honour and respect for simply amazing music, lyrics and a passionate voice.

R.I.P. MJ, your music will always live on...

Skeleton

26 Jun 2009, 14:55

This is a really sad news, it was a little shock to me.. I loved his music. He was great performer and his music has influenced many people..

Rest in Peace Michael

MissAsh

26 Jun 2009, 15:20

I think some people are forgetting that he was never actually convicted of the things he was accused of.

heidi

26 Jun 2009, 15:33

i was shocked too. i am not a fan, but he was a great one and he died too young. his songs always remain.

Dave

26 Jun 2009, 16:30

A true talent taken too soon :-(

The Flying Mouse

26 Jun 2009, 18:46

That's one less child molestor off the streets, lets hope Gary Glitter is next.

:twisted: True.
If he was a child molesterer, he should burn in hell for all eternity, but I don't believe he was into anything like that.
I don't think he was mentaly capable of doing those things.
Jackson was still a child himself, and I think that a few cynical people took advantage of his generous and innocent nature and made a killing off it.

Whether you liked him or not there's no escaping the influence he has had and the contribution he has made to music over the years. In his day an incredible performer. Such a shame that those around him that he trusted couldn't protect him from his own naivety.

RIP Michael.

Well said Andy.
You've hit the nail on the head with that post :up:

nikox1

26 Jun 2009, 19:13

That's one less child molestor off the streets, lets hope Gary Glitter is next.

discusting! you should be :oops:

Evil One

26 Jun 2009, 19:21

Why? Would you have been willing to leave your kids in a room with him?

mszee

26 Jun 2009, 19:24

Why? Would you have been willing to leave your kids in a room with him?

But their parents did...first case was settled out of court - god forbid somebody molests a child - they should pay...and not with money...how do you buy your child's innocense back? But those parents did - no problem...

Second case - he was found to be not guilty...

American law system teaches us that person is innocent until proven guilty...

And I find both sets of parents GUILTY...

CarylB

26 Jun 2009, 20:05

Whilst I wasn't particularly a fan of Michael Jackson, there's no doubting his talent and contribution to pop music imo, and he was a great performer .. As an individual he was a troubled and bizarre soul. His life was cut short early, but I too am not surprised he didn't make old bones. His naivity led him down a tragic path .. and as Dave said his death is the last step of a sad degeneration in his life that started long ago. His many devoted fans will miss him, and I feel for them. A life that started with so much promise, in which he endured abuse when young which he never really resolved, and that led him to a bizarre and damaged way of living from which he is now at peace.

Hopefully he will be remembered more for what he achieved than for the mistakes his life led him into. His music will live on .. all else can be buried with him and put to rest as well.

Caryl

amethyst

26 Jun 2009, 21:11

Poor man ~ never allowed the childhood he should have had which probably shaped who he became in later life.

May he rest in peace. My thoughts are with his children and family.

ames xx

Pudding

27 Jun 2009, 00:21

discusting! you should be :oops:

Is that right Yoda :roll:

carole

27 Jun 2009, 01:25

:twisted: True.
If he was a child molesterer, he should burn in hell for all eternity, but I don't believe he was into anything like that.
I don't think he was mentaly capable of doing those things.
Jackson was still a child himself, and I think that a few cynical people took advantage of his generous and innocent nature and made a killing off it.

I agree with all that, Michael Jackson had no childhood, and I think he tried to make up for it later in life. He was naive and taken advantage of by other people. I feel he lived a very sad and lonely life and he couldn't even walk down the street without being harrassed by media or fans, so he resorted to behaving very bizarrely. I really did feel sorry for him, not being able to live a normal life. I was never a huge fan of his, but I grew up with his music and didn't mind some of his songs. Hopefully now he is at peace. I woke up yesterday to the news about Farrah Fawcett, which saddened me, then to hear about Michael Jackson, and it was a huge shock and still hard to get my head around. I imagine his fans must be devastated. A TV show here ran a competition to go to his London concert, I can't imagine how the winner now must be feeling. They would be gutted.
Carole

RSG

27 Jun 2009, 02:23

Unique man! His loss leaves me with no words @ this very present.

MeatGrl1

27 Jun 2009, 02:37

Was Michael Jackson killed by injection to ease his pain? Police to quiz star's doctor (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1195827/Was-Michael-Jackson-killed-injection-ease-pain-Police-quiz-stars-doctor.html)

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MeatGrl1

27 Jun 2009, 02:47

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duke knooby

27 Jun 2009, 02:51

that was almost always guaranteed to happen...
where's quincy when he's needed???

nikox1

27 Jun 2009, 03:06

Is that right Yoda :roll:

yep! thats right

Pudding

27 Jun 2009, 23:40

There's a Michael Jackson Hoax Death website now --->HERE (http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com/) Where it's awash with nonsensical theories that's substantiated with utter bullshit :roll:

AndrewG

28 Jun 2009, 00:14

Interesting some branded Michael Jackson as "wacko jacko" and then you get nutjobs like that setting up such websites.

Some people are just never convinced that life is quite a fragile thing. It can be over in a blink when making mistakes.

MeatGrl1

28 Jun 2009, 01:05

Let the man rest, I think these people are cutching at straws and not wanting to believe he has gone. It's like with anyone this isn't respecting the dead it's disrespecting them and hurting their loved ones more.

MeatGrl1

29 Jun 2009, 15:48

This has made me cry, it's Lisa's tribute to Michael and she talks about a conversation they had a few years ago... It's heartbreaking;

Lisa Marie's blog entry (http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=42291868&blogId=497035326).

I've just read it and I have tears in my eyes.

R.I.P Michael

MeatGrl1

29 Jun 2009, 19:06

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I like how this was put together, how Michael was with his fans was often overlooked in the media and/or otherwise.

AndrewG

29 Jun 2009, 20:07

:-( For someone who is a not a "fan of him as a person" you sure seem to have a fascination with him now that he his dead or am I wrong?

MeatGrl1

29 Jun 2009, 21:12

Andrew,
I do respect the man and though I may not have been a fan of the person there is no denying that he was a very caring person when he was alive and cared deeply for his fans, I posted Lisa's blog because I love her and because I wanted to share it, thought it was interesting how she brought to light the conversation she had with Michael (presumably when they were married, 1994-95) how he probed about her father and how he envisioned that he would go the similar way and just imagine what it must of been like seeing a similar thing happen to her ex husband that she first saw with her dad, that triggered me off because I can't imagine it.

Out of curiosity I was on you tube and found the video, I thought it was really touching, also saw the full clip of You Are Not Alone where the female fan just rushes onto the stage and he's unfazed by it, just carries on singing and uses her as part of the show if you like and then nearing the end of the song nods to the security to take her off, but in answer to your question no it is not a sudden fascination, just something I have observed, and finding the video and posting it now may seem like that but it isn't. On Sunday on one of the front pages of a paper there was a picture of his father laughing, that made me feel sick being his son died just days earlier...

May he finally be laid to rest.

AndrewG

29 Jun 2009, 21:56

... and cared deeply for his fans..

From what I can deduce he thought many people/media absolutely hated and despised him. The fact that he sold out those planned 50 shows at the O2 probably surprised him too.

Many media reports concerning him are sickening to say the least. It all started back in the mid 80s right up until now with The Sun printing sickening autopsy facts which are not true. And there is also a lot wrong with the context how they print stuff. There was an article in a newspaper (which indeed I never by in this country) I was reading on the way back on the train from the Hyde Park festival yesterday about a nanny who was formerly employed by MJ saying she thought it was sick that his family phoned her asking about if he hid money anywhere in the house (sick that they were thinking of that so very early on after he died). I don't know about you but if I was clearing out a RENTED house of a dead family member I certainly would like to know if there was money anywhere indeed! The media in a way buried MJ before he was even dead, that's the way I see it all.

I sure hope to god none of child molestation alligations are true. The fact that the people who sued him were for a large part into it for the money certainly does make me wonder if their stories were not fabricated but I do think it is wrong for a 40 year old man to be sleeping with children in any shape of form.

I do think it is a shame he never got a chance to make a comeback.
It would not surprise me if he intentionally took an overdose on Thursday as the concerts were scaring him to death.

MeatGrl1

29 Jun 2009, 22:12

No I think when he said people, he meant outside the fanbase, the parazzi and papers, could be wrong and I have to agree the majority of the papers are really having a field day and not caring what is fact or fiction. Sunday there were MJ tribute puill outs, send for a free MJ tribute t-shirt which let's be honest you won't recieve.. I saved up a week worth of tokens and sent the cheque to recieve this Elvis poster and the cheque got cashed but I never recieved the poster so when I see you have to send off I ignore it.
But the tributes I agree with and gives the fans a souvenir, but the details of recent events are still a mystery though we know he died of a heart attack.
Mum thinks it was assisted suicide but nobody really knows and I think that's why the media are loving it, which is sick I know.
As for the allegations against child abuse, IDK what to think about that, it's wrong that an adult is sharing a bed with a child, but in his own mind he might of thought nothing was wrong with it and tried to relive a childhood he lost.
Personal opinion though.

allrevvedup

29 Jun 2009, 22:29

I don't believe we'll ever fully know the truth and in some ways I hope we don't, because this "public must know" thing is usually a load of bs.

I'm sure there were many things that Jackson wouldn't have wanted to come to light. Likewise there are probably those who were around him that were somewhat shady that will not want things to come out.

I hope his family, including his children, are allowed some peace and time to grieve but at the same time I hope that his family don't see this as an opportunity to thrust themselves back in the spotlight.

There were various stories about jealousy around the time of Thriller, hence the ill fated Jackson 5 reunion that failed badly but was all about making money. There were a lot of rumours of this happening again, mainly spun by other family members, within the last year.

I don't think he was as innocent as he maintained. Creatively he was something else and that's how he should be remembered

Wario

29 Jun 2009, 22:42

My most popular thread to date :cool:

Evil One

29 Jun 2009, 22:55

And not a poll in sight!

Pudding

30 Jun 2009, 00:01

The news about him has gone completely retarded :retard:

I think MJ's Dad is more Wacko than what Jacko was, that man is completely nuts :nuts:

MeatGrl1

30 Jun 2009, 00:38

I think MJ's Dad is more Wacko than what Jacko was, that man is completely nuts :nuts:

I totally agree !

Pudding

30 Jun 2009, 01:10

Apparently Papa Jacko is crying on the inside :wtf:

daveake

30 Jun 2009, 01:15

Is that another result of plastic surgery gone wrong?

MeatGrl1

30 Jun 2009, 01:20

Apparently Papa Jacko is crying on the inside :wtf:

I do not believe that for a minute, he is a very sick individul who should be mourning the loss of a son not laughing and appearing to be having a really good time, it makes me feel really sick and then he comes out with that ?
God it's unbelievable, Michael's own father and then people wonder why Michael wasn't all together there, I think we get the answer looking at his father figure who let's face it isn't really one to begin with.

But back on topic...

MAY YOU REST IN PEACE MICHAEL

:(

Pudding

30 Jun 2009, 02:21

Jacko was the cash cow in that family and Papa Wacko must be wringing his hands at the thought of all that money rolling in now he's dead, after he pays off the reported $400million debt Jacko apparently had. Elvis was most profitable when he died and so was Kurt Cobain, this probably hasn't gone unnoticed :roll:

meat_loaf

30 Jun 2009, 04:20

That's one less child molestor off the streets, lets hope Gary Glitter is next.

Michael was not a Child molestor he was a child himself at heart and didnt see anything wrong with it, there was no sexually activity involved and even if he was gulity, u still shouldnt wish him dead we are all human and deserve equal rights and its been clairfied in the papers that The Jordan Chandler case was all lies he was in it for the money and hope to get some fame out of it, I personally believe michael was a kind and inocent man.

May his soul rest in peace.

Pudding

30 Jun 2009, 05:13

and even if he was gulity, u still shouldnt wish him dead we are all human and deserve equal rights

Putting the argument whether Jacko was or wasn't a child molestor to one side. ANY pervert who interferes with children in any way shape or form DOES NOT have equal rights :nuts: You might wish them to have equal rights as you, but I'd string them up by their balls to the nearest tree given the chance.

MeatGrl1

30 Jun 2009, 05:25

Michael was not a Child molestor he was a child himself at heart and didnt see anything wrong with it, there was no sexually activity involved and even if he was gulity, u still shouldnt wish him dead we are all human and deserve equal rights and its been clairfied in the papers that The Jordan Chandler case was all lies he was in it for the money and hope to get some fame out of it, I personally believe michael was a kind and inocent man.

May his soul rest in peace.

I agree.

I think Michael was very misunderstood by the media and as I stated in another post I don't think we will ever know the full story but I think his childhood was taken from him and so he tried to make up for it later on however being childlike and living your youth is different, he has said in numerous interviews that I've caught because it was on he's expressed how much children mean to him and how he would never hurt a child, I think like everyone else was shocked to the core when he dangled his son from the balcony but again in an interview after that he said that he was holding the child tightly and securly but that still does not exciuse the fact he did it.

R.I.P Michael

Wario

30 Jun 2009, 05:25

Putting the argument whether Jacko was or wasn't a child molestor to one side. ANY pervert who interferes with children in any way shape or form DOES NOT have equal rights :nuts: You might wish them to have equal rights as you, but I'd string them up by their balls to the nearest tree given the chance.

Agreeing with snackpack here. The fact he even ALLOWED the children to sleep in his BED is disturbing enough. whether or not he got action with them is up for debate. may he rest in piece, but i am more shocked about this then mournful.

Pudding

30 Jun 2009, 07:06

in an interview after that he said that he was holding the child tightly and securly.

He's not exactly going to say he's an untrustworthy raving lunatic who gets a jolly from dangling infants out of hotel windows.

I wonder if his kids were ever put on a child watch list or whatever you call it when you think the parent(s) are a bit screwy :nuts:

AndrewG

30 Jun 2009, 09:30

What I find disturbing is that celebrities who certainly bring us joy and a lot music will get fried for any wrong doing which the media can find about them. Yet you have politicians who engaged in a completely illegal war (Bush and Blair) and they get off scott free and the latter of whom even gets considered for EU president! Meanwhile the media can only let us know how much the local politican has claimed for a chandelier or how crap Gordon Brown is suppossed to be. Do I think causing a war which causes thousands of death is worse than suppossedly sleeping in a oxygen chamber? Yes I do!!

Sorry but this world has gone completely screwy and hypocritical thanks in large part to people like Rupert Murdoch. :nuts:

RadioMaster

30 Jun 2009, 10:30

Pudding

30 Jun 2009, 10:36

I don't know if it's solely Rupert Murdochs fault, but we definitely live in a society now where insecure celebrities crave for media attention and the public crave for their daily fix of celebrities. And all this is fuelled by the tat gossip magazines they sell and brain dumb shows like Celebrity Big Brother.

AndyK

30 Jun 2009, 11:52

Wether he's guilty or not, THIS is neither the place, nor the time to discuss it.

Thank you RJ! Nothing more to add to that.

sexyeyes_jo

30 Jun 2009, 14:04

it was such a shame to hear what happened to michael jackson 50 was no age to die at, i did like him when i was a kid but he was so talented i do feel sorry for kids as they have lost their dad. i hope he rests in peace

MeatGrl1

30 Jun 2009, 21:18

some posts in this thread make me sick.

Why is it that after someone died, you either have to praise or condemn them?
If you want Michael Jackson to rest in peace, then let him do so, and dont argue about the same old shit over and over again.
Wether he's guilty or not, THIS is neither the place, nor the time to discuss it.

Sorry, had to say that.

RJ, I totally agree.
Some of the posts have made me feel sick.
There is a time and place for certain things and a thread of condolence is hardly the time or place for it.

TOUGpKjEcgo

R.I.P

Pudding

30 Jun 2009, 23:23

I have felt sick also.

MeatGrl1

01 Jul 2009, 01:59

Michael Jackson Prepared For Public Viewing (http://undercover.com.au/News-Story.aspx?id=8664_Michael_Jackson_Prepared_For_Public_Viewing)

Michael Jackson: A life of music (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/5643906/Michael-Jackson-A-life-of-music.html)

MeatGrl1

01 Jul 2009, 14:17

Michael Jackson's last interview: The tragic singer’s final moments (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/06/30/michael-jackson-s-last-interview-the-tragic-singer-s-final-moments-115875-21484885/)

Jackson's will to be filed in court today (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iJN6FHrmT75HzSZChIb2PDzFEDXgD995JPAO0)

Johnny at the London Premiere of PE on Monday, talks about Michael's passing and the rumour that he's to play him in a movie (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x9qb2l_johnny-depp-on-michael-jackson-and_news)

AndrewG

01 Jul 2009, 14:30

It's hardly necessary to post news links here imo. Just head over to tmz.com for the latest Jacko news. They were the first to break the death news and have been acurate ever since on pretty much everything I think.

MeatGrl1

01 Jul 2009, 14:33

Andrew,
you don't have to read them, thought it was interesting.

AndrewG

01 Jul 2009, 14:48

Andrew,
you don't have to read them, thought it was interesting.

You don't have to read my opinion on the matter either.

In my opinion posting all sorts of links to news articles, some of which are clearly hyped up bullshit like the Johnny Depp one is hardly respectful towards someone who has died just as much as debating the "other issue". You've constantly been the one to post "may he finally be laid to rest" etc yet you have been the most avid poster in this thread.

MeatGrl1

01 Jul 2009, 15:58

Sorry if I want to keep his memory alive a little longer, I post with the deepest respect or try to and then for you to say that upsets me to be honest, never have I once brought up certain issues and would never do so in a condolence thread. Yes Andrew that upsets me. I respect Michael as I have said to you before and in posting these links it's not in a way of disrespect but the complete opposite, but if you want to misconstrude it that way so be it.
I actually dl a new track last night with a special message from MJ which is very touching, and I could post it here but I'd be ridiculed for it probably so I won't.

Anyway back on topic (again :roll:) !!

R.I.P Michael

RadioMaster

01 Jul 2009, 16:22

allrevvedup

01 Jul 2009, 17:06

Is there a point where we start to go round in circles with the same thing repeated over and over?

I understand what Emma is/was trying to do and hey the world's media are still discussing it, so maybe she has a point by posting links, if people want to go look at it fair enough. If they don't ok.

This thread isn't exactly having a major bearing on anyone's life in here and it's one of wario's most succesful topics (which I never thought i'd hear myself say or watch myself type!)

AndyK

01 Jul 2009, 17:19

Is there a point where we start to go round in circles with the same thing repeated over and over?

I think that point has been passed ...

AndyK

01 Jul 2009, 17:19

Is there a point where we start to go round in circles with the same thing repeated over and over?

I think that point has been passed ... :))

Wario

01 Jul 2009, 17:39

it's one of wario's most succesful topics (which I never thought i'd hear myself say or watch myself type!)

yay! :D

Evil One

01 Jul 2009, 17:40

Is there a point where we start to go round in circles with the same thing repeated over and over?

RadioMaster

01 Jul 2009, 17:48

I dont know....Is there a point where we start to go round in circles with the same thing repeated over and over??

daveake

01 Jul 2009, 17:56

I dont know....Is there a point where we start to go round in circles with the same thing repeated over and over??

Oh no!! R.I.P Thread

Pudding

01 Jul 2009, 22:52

I don't see a problem with topics Meatgril is posting, I see a problem with people freaking out when the topics get discussed which ironically Meatgril is one of them.

Maybe people are only saying RIP Michael Jackson here because Meat Loaf mentioned he was saddened by the news and they feel they have to do the same to look good. I don't know, but if people really wanted to show respect towards Michael Jackson then they'd hop over to one of the numerous websites that allow you to give condolences or donate money to one of his charities. I might have it wrong and maybe one of the mods is going to send all the RIP messages over to a Jacko website where no one will ever read them. Maybe I need more coffee and a whole lot more sleep.

MeatGrl1

02 Jul 2009, 02:30

Thank you Mike and Pudding :cool:.

MeatGrl1

02 Jul 2009, 04:58

Michael is topping the Billboard charts;

http://i42.tinypic.com/2443bb4.jpg (http://www.theage.com.au/news/entertainment/music/jackson-off-the-wall/2009/07/02/1246127613326.html)
Click image to get to the artical

May your music and legacy live on.

The Flying Mouse

02 Jul 2009, 18:54

Is there a point where we start to go round in circles with the same thing repeated over and over?

:twisted: By special request......

clickety click :mrgreen: (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13250)

sexyeyes_jo

02 Jul 2009, 22:50

I agree with Andrew. This was partially what I meant with my initial post. Besindes pointless arguments, countless links, articles and videos certainly dont belong in a rip thread imo. And ending every post with 'rip michael' (no matter what size) wont change the fact that this is actually off topic.

i agree with you on this RJ, for someone who doesn't even like michael jackson they sure do like posting aload of crap about him, considering i've been a fan of mj's since i was 5 years old but even i wouldn't post crap about him on here, yeah i know emma has respect for the man but she doesn't have to post rip michael jackson everytime she post anything about him. some people on here me included saying hope rests in peace why don't people just let him do that or is it just me thinking that? :roll: (which is what i'm doing by the way thats why i haven't really posted anything on this thread)

Pudding

02 Jul 2009, 22:58

some people on here me included saying hope rests in peace why don't people just let him do that or is it just me thinking that?

Do you honestly think that he will rest in peace, really, in all honesty, do you think that will ever happen? Princess Di has been dead for 12 years and she's not resting in peace and she was less controversial. The media, his family and every man and his (or her) dog that ever had anything in the slightest to do with him have gone nucking futs :nuts:

Wario

02 Jul 2009, 23:06

nucking futs

Oh I get :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I PEE PEE IN MY PANTS LMAO!!!

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

R.I.P MJ

MeatGrl1

02 Jul 2009, 23:28

Cannot believe it's a whole week :(.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2sbjvoo.jpg

AndrewG

02 Jul 2009, 23:42

The only interesting thing I've seen in the news about him over the last week kinda answered my question about if he was actually going to be ready for the shows: The rehearsal footage of his suppossedly upcoming shows looks pretty good imo. As if 13 years never passed. Apparently AEG are releasing this as a DVD/Blu Ray as the last few sessions were pro shot on Hi Def with proper staging and lighting.
What could have been eh?

sexyeyes_jo

03 Jul 2009, 00:28

Do you honestly think that he will rest in peace, really, in all honesty, do you think that will ever happen? Princess Di has been dead for 12 years and she's not resting in peace and she was less controversial. The media, his family and every man and his (or her) dog that ever had anything in the slightest to do with him have gone nucking futs :nuts:

yeah i know everyone is going nuts and probably everyone is gonna come out of the woodwork now that he is dead probably after money but then again what else is new, its funny how all of a sudden his ex wife wanted nothing to do with his kids and now she wants custody of his kids but apparently i don't know if this is true but he is leaving his kids with diana ross

duke knooby

03 Jul 2009, 02:04

Apparently AEG are releasing this as a DVD/Blu Ray as the last few sessions were pro shot on Hi Def with proper staging and lighting.

the sun have a clip of the rehersals on there site

AndrewG

03 Jul 2009, 02:13

Yeah I'd seen it on TMZ earlier but the sun clip is better quality. Cheers.

Pudding

03 Jul 2009, 07:00

its funny how all of a sudden his ex wife wanted nothing to do with his kids and now she wants custody of his kids

That's probably because she knows she's been left sod all in his will, at least with having custody of the kids she'll be on a nice little earner. I'm surprised that none of his siblings were named as a potential guardian.

sexyeyes_jo

03 Jul 2009, 18:31

[QUOTE=Pudding;466300]That's probably because she knows she's been left sod all in his will, at least with having custody of the kids she'll be on a nice little earner.

that wouldn't surprise me but his mum is trying to get custody of the kids but michael jackson has left in his will the kids to diana ross it just shows you what he really thought of his family and his ex wife

MeatGrl1

04 Jul 2009, 01:50

Thought he said in the will that he left them to Katherine Jackson... His mum.
Like someone said to me don't believe everything the tabaloids print !

Pudding

04 Jul 2009, 11:11

Yep, his 79 year old ma has the kids, then when she pops her clogs or is unable to look after them then they go to Diana Ross.

MeatGrl1

05 Jul 2009, 03:23

AndrewG

05 Jul 2009, 03:45

Yeah I saw that cover when someone pointed it out at work. It does seem tasteless as it states it is a "tribute" issue. Doesn't affect me personally as I never buy those trashy magazines anyway. If it was a petition to get rid of all the celebrity magazines and tabloids then I would gladly sign it.

MeatGrl1

05 Jul 2009, 05:12

That's what totally appauled me too Andrew the fact that they have the absolute gaul to call it a tribute cover, look at the Now magazine tribute cover that I have (Lisa Marie features a bit in it that's why I got it) and it's a really good photo of Michael in concert and a nice way to remember him by, how would anyone at OK! like to walk into a shop and see their dying relative as the central figure on the front of a magazine, sure if the shoe was on the other foot they would all be up in arms so why then is Michael different ?!
I was livid when I saw it dread to think what the absolute die hard fans thought when they saw that !!

Outrage features very highly I would imagine and quite rightly so, what is wrong with using a pic from the O2 Press Conference, such as this one;

http://i42.tinypic.com/2nunkub.jpg

I would much rather look at a pic like this than when he's dying, and so it sits cover facing down on my desk instead !

Pudding

05 Jul 2009, 07:58

the fact that they have the absolute gaul

What the hell has an ancient region of western Europe that included what is now northern Italy and France and Belgium and part of Germany and the Netherlands got to do with anything? If you're going to be appalled then at least use the correct spellings of words - it's gall

As for the petition it's a load of shit that will not achieve a single thing. Now if there was a petition to stop you posting a picture of Michael Jackson in every post then I'd more than gladly sign that.

CarylB

05 Jul 2009, 12:23

OK published their tribute to Jade Goody, that sad, ill-educated and exploited product of the ghastly Big Brother machine, in the week before her death, apparently quoting her "last words". Will this latest nonsense affect OK adversely or will sales, just as when Jade died, simply rocket through the roof? As the magazine is on the shelves and being purchased .. let's face it Emma, you must have seen the cover, yet you still purchased it .. I suspect the latter, because most people (including his fans) simply don't and won't vote with their feet, and I don't see that an on-line petition will achieve its being removed from the shelves. If anything these things give more publicity, and may even help sales imo, and the magazine will simply laugh all the way to the bank.

Personally if OK, Hello etc each started sending me a free copy every week they'd go straight from my mailbox to the bin with all the other unsolicited junk that gets delivered. Like Andrew, were it a petition to get rid of all the celebrity magazines and tabloids I too would be tempted to sign it, but would probably resist as it wouldn't achieve anything.

Michael Jackson's lifestyle has caused controversy for the last quarter century, and sadly now he's died the media machine will ensure it continues because it sells and makes them money, simple as that, and that it happened in the run up to the O2 concerts only fuels the machine. The media handling and exploitation of his death must be thoroughly unpleasant for many of his family, but not unexpected I suspect as it was a pattern for so much of his life. I felt sorry for his children when he was alive, and feel sorry for them now .. not because of the cover of a trashy magazine, but because their future will no doubt be the subject of continuing controversy and media exploitation. Jackson will not be allowed to "Rest in Peace" as long as people buy and read what will continue to be written about him, but those unfortunate children should be allowed to live and grow up in it .. sadly I suspect they will have significant wealth but little else to give them a stable grounding.

Caryl

RadioMaster

05 Jul 2009, 12:54

a day that will go down in history:

I agree with Caryl! :shock:

Monstro

05 Jul 2009, 13:22

If like me, you are absolutely appauled by OK! Magazine's front cover then please sign the petition to get it off our shelves;

Petiton (http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/HelpMichaelJackson/)

I just have, was absolutely livid when I first saw it !

and so it sits cover facing down on my desk instead !

Am I getting the wrong end of the stick here, are you saying that you bought what you have signed a petition to get taken off the shelves?

MeatGrl1

05 Jul 2009, 17:14

OK will try and answer without being contradictory though I think I've dug the hole too deep now to try and crawl out of it but yes I did buy it, I flicked through it and there were several pics of LMP, as some of you are aware I have been an Elvis fan since childhood so anything related or otherwise I buy it.
The whole principle of the cover still stands, I loath it and wish that they had used a totally different picture than the one that they have used.

CarylB

05 Jul 2009, 19:00

And that's the thing isn't it .. you really strongly disapprove of the cover, yet because there was something in the magazine you wanted, you bought it .. and probably others who have signed the on-line petition have also purchased it, and there will be hundreds of thousands of others who don't sign it who have bought or will buy the magazine .. so what's the point of a petition? .. because I doubt a thousand or so names would ruffle OK's feathers or impact on its sales .. they regularly sell half a million or so each month.

The only way they'd be likely to change their way of operating is if the vast majority of their target group all voted with their feet and refused to buy it. Poor sales would perhaps make them think again .. sales will just encourage them to continue .. and as long as it sells, nothing short of some illegality is likely to have it taken off the shelves by OK, nor by the retailers who also make money from the sales.

I agree the cover is pretty tasteless .. but then I think most of what these celebrity magazines publish is intrusive, questionably accurate and tasteless anyway .. They don't make any money from me :) .. but people will doubtless continue to buy them .. and the more publicity they get, whether on or off the net, the better pleased they'll be imo.

Caryl

AndrewG

05 Jul 2009, 19:18

And that's the thing isn't it .. you really strongly disapprove of the cover...

To be honest the way I see it and I REALLY do not mean this in a negative way to put anybody down, it seems to me at the moment Emma is SEEKING out anything that will offend her and let it do just that. Perhaps she doesn't have a lot else to do at the moment? It is so easy to be "offended" these days; "Look at me I am offended by this, you should all agree and if you don't then I am offended by that as well".

Michael Jackson was a great musical artist. Perhaps listening to his music is the best way to remember him rather than worrying about ANYTHING that ANYBODY writes about him??? I was listening to a lot of music yesterday as I was programming and a number of his songs came up and it just reminded me of how brilliant he was and why I was such a huge fan in the 90s. All this celebrity shit is a waste of time imo, just stop buying the magazines and being curious about what happens behind the scenes, just flippin' focus on the man's work.

No doubt this post will offend someone too. :roll:
I have apologised before for any of my posts in this thread which may have offended Emma but when I did that I did not receive any response and yet the seeking out things which may offend her seems to continue....

I'm sorry but this had to be said.

Wario

05 Jul 2009, 21:50

Officially my most popular thread: onto the 6th page!!! :D:D:D

(RIP MJ)

Pudding

05 Jul 2009, 23:55

These magazines for the most part are a load of shit anyway and anyone who gets easily offended by any photo or anything that gets written too seriously really needs to get out more.

If I'm going to put any effort into signing a petition then it'll be for something worthwhile like protecting children not a picture of a dead celebrity.

batcity

09 Jul 2009, 23:59

For me, michael jackson was great... It came was a shock when he died BUT... after a few days of all this media coverage... I'm really not interested anymore... I never saw the memorial service and never will... because I'm sick of hearing about him.. there's solidiers dying on the frontline for their country and I really rather hear about them.. I'm smypathetic but come on people... get a life... I'm always outspoken now... and air my views whether people like it or not.. ain't going to say sorry for the comments because people should have the right to say what they think... sick of do gooders saying you can't say that... I already did!!!

Pudding

10 Jul 2009, 00:04

there's solidiers dying on the frontline for their country and I really rather hear about them..

Do you watch Fox News? as that's exactly what they said on Fox & Friends...spooky :shock:

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 00:09

nope..

MeatGrl1

10 Jul 2009, 00:15

OK! has redeemed it's self this week by having a lovely photo of Michael with his three children on the cover, so why they could not have done something like this for the 'tribute' issue I have no idea.

Also it's sadly two weeks today :(.

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 00:20

AndrewG

10 Jul 2009, 00:22

Yikes, even I wouldn't have said that! :shock:

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 00:25

Yikes, even I wouldn't have said that! :shock:

i did, its called having the bollocks to unload your views everyone dares not to go!!! Ha!!

MeatGrl1

10 Jul 2009, 00:25

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 00:48

Markham,
I don't have to take this from you, please.
I respect Michael and I care, if you cannot appreciate that then please can you not respond to me. I am not wanting to fight or cause a rift, I am simply trying to keep Michael's memory alive though I can appreciate not everyone gives a damn which is very sad.
Please just leave me the hell alone !

Thank you

Emma understand you're feeling sad and contemplating taking those asprins because you have an headache... but hey in the real world.... he's gone, never coming back, I wish people could think of those troops dying on the frontline for our country, rather than some star who dyed his colored face white to look like a white person, and had some many plastic surgeries, his face turned to plastacine... and he turned into MORPH!!, then he got into trouble for sleeping naked i believe with kids, I still believe that he payed off those kids to keep quiet he was a fruitloop, he shudda stayed the color he was... now this isnt about race, creed or color. not denying his music was great... but thats it... sick of hearing tv coverage after tv coverage... you pick up a newspaper, jacko this, jacko that.. for what for saddo's to put picture on this thread of him... we see him everytime we open a ruddy bewspaperdon't wanna hear it...look I'm talking from the voice of reason... read something real news!!! I'm not going to apologise because i'm real sick of people saying this is a governed state and we can't say what we want to say... well i just did... get into the real world

Pudding

10 Jul 2009, 00:48

i did, its called having the bollocks to unload your views everyone dares not to go!!! Ha!!

Total respect for the big gonads :up:

I am simply trying to keep Michael's memory alive

Why is it important you keep his memory alive on a Meat Loaf forum? Was he a secret member of The Neverland Express?

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 00:51

Total respect for the big gonads :up:

Why is it important you keep his memory alive on a Meat Loaf forum? Was he a secret member of The Neverland Express?

Neverland!!! (I think he got the wrong site)

But neverland on this site is for grown ups rated 18

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 00:53

That'll cause a stir, lets have some comments!!

MeatGrl1

10 Jul 2009, 00:56

Emma understand you're feeling sad and contemplating taking those asprins because you have an headache... but hey in the real world.... he's gone, never coming back, I wish people could think of those troops dying on the frontline for our country, rather than some star who dyed his colored face white to look like a white person, and had some many plastic surgeries, his face turned to plastacine... and he turned into MORPH!!, then he got into trouble for sleeping naked i believe with kids, I still believe that he payed off those kids to keep quiet he was a fruitloop, he shudda stayed the color he was... now this isnt about race, creed or color. not denying his music was great... but thats it... sick of hearing tv coverage after tv coverage... you pick up a newspaper, jacko this, jacko that.. for what for saddo's to put picture on this thread of him... we see him everytime we open a ruddy bewspaperdon't wanna hear it...look I'm talking from the voice of reason... read something real news!!! I'm not going to apologise because i'm real sick of people saying this is a governed state and we can't say what we want to say... well i just did... get into the real world

OK this is probably not appropriate in a condolence thread and mabe you don't care.. Fine.
But let me just say, Michael's father was mean to him as a kid and he grew up despising him, and in the early 80's he was diagnosed with a skin condidtion that changes the colour of his skin, he's also said that he didn't want to grow up looking like his father after what he had done to him. Yes he helped the process on a bit, that's why he never wore short sleeves on tour. The plasters on his fingers were also to cover up the disease. He changed his features so that he wouldn't end up looking like his father.
Not that you give a flying monkeys, you just want to judge him and to the other issue, yes I care about those fighting but as this is a thread of CONDOLENCE TO MICHAEL JACKSON then I think talking about him here is very much on topic.

Pudding

10 Jul 2009, 01:01

this is a thread of CONDOLENCE TO MICHAEL JACKSON

To which you have have given your condolences several several times :roll:

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 01:12

Edit: Offensive content removed.

SamCat

10 Jul 2009, 01:16

That'll cause a stir, lets have some comments!!

Would you like me to send you the link to the blog you wrote on FaceBook on the 26th of June saying what a great entertainer, a great singer and devoted father he was and how you shed a tear that day!!
I especially like the bit at the end where you say
"Thank you for all the joy you have brought into my life and other people's life!!"

Pudding

10 Jul 2009, 01:24

:lurk:

Monstro

10 Jul 2009, 01:25

Edit: Quotes questioning offensive content above removed.

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 01:26

Would you like me to send you the link to the blog you wrote on FaceBook on the 26th of June saying what a great entertainer, a great singer and devoted father he was and how you shed a tear that day!!
I especially like the bit at the end where you say
"Thank you for all the joy you have brought into my life and other people's life!!"

Man I got a stalker...yeah sure, I said stuff satimng it was a shock and he's a family man and that his music will live on, thats was then how i said brought a tear to my eye, ( go you ever read my blogs they are sometimes tongue and cheek) and this is now... its was sad for few days then i got to realize that everywhere you go its jacko this and jacko that, and I just dont need to read about him anymore.. in the news and on the internet anywhere... let him have some sleep!!! stop digging him up

if its makes you feel better and you think you got one over me go for it... I just laugg at people who think they got one over on me..... I feel everyone should read my blogs on facebook, because thye are bigger than michael jackson ever was and I got a fans of my blogs!!! go for it....

I will let you copy extracts from my blog (kind permission of SRBN)

SamCat

10 Jul 2009, 01:27

Markham you really need to edit that you've made a really bad typo!!

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 01:31

Edit: More offensive content removed.

duke knooby

10 Jul 2009, 01:31

That'll cause a stir, lets have some comments!!

you're being a dick

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 01:34

you're being a dick

yeah but hey least i got one!!!

duke knooby

10 Jul 2009, 01:37

yeah i know... getting tired of going over the same old ground to someone, who cant respect that people have their individual opnions!!!

was just voicing my opinion..

SamCat

10 Jul 2009, 01:40

Man I got a stalker...yeah sure, I said stuff satimng it was a shock and he's a family man and that his music will live on, thats was then how i said brought a tear to my eye, ( go you ever read my blogs they are sometimes tongue and cheek) and this is now... its was sad for few days then i got to realize that everywhere you go its jacko this and jacko that, and I just dont need to read about him anymore.. in the news and on the internet anywhere... let him have some sleep!!! stop digging him up

if its makes you feel better and you think you got one over me go for it... I just laugg at people who think they got one over on me..... I feel everyone should read my blogs on facebook, because thye are bigger than michael jackson ever was and I got a fans of my blogs!!! go for it....

I will let you copy extracts from my blog (kind permission of SRBN)

Stalker yeah sure!! I read your blogs for the same reason i watch Life on Mars to laugh at the bad old days before most of the human race realised that a certain amount of pc and humanity makes the world a happier place!!

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 01:40

was just voicing my opinion..

thats good then, bit of negivity... never get this on facebook...

duke knooby

10 Jul 2009, 01:45

thats good then, bit of negivity... never get this on facebook...

what??? bad spelling??? ;)

suppose this should go back on topic sometime... eventually

Pudding

10 Jul 2009, 01:46

Can we all just agree that Michael Jackson is dead and he aint ever coming back to life. To a greater or lesser degree people have said their condolences, some several times. He means something some people and not much to others. However, this is a Meat Loaf forum and there's plenty of nutty sites out there (and I mean really out there :nuts:) dedicated to the death of Michael Jackson and every nugget of bullshit surrounding it.

I aint a mod, but I can see this thread getting a :lock: on it.

batcity

10 Jul 2009, 01:50