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CarylB

28 May 2010, 12:48

Join the Campaign Group facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Last week Leeds United FC got a single into the UK top 10 by harnessing support on Facebook. We believe we have a real chance of getting the chosen single track "Like A Rose" to the top slot in week commencing 14th of June. The song should appeal to Jack Black fans as well, and to young people who might not associate such a ballsy song with someone they might see as an old rocker :)

This project is about smashing into the UK Singles chart. Given we pull it off we can go for other country's charts with another track, but right now we are asking people to download this track from UK sites. You may have the album, but what we're asking is for people to stand up for Meat against the label who fail to vigorously promote singles to gather momentum for the album, and who fail to vigorously promote him, and to support him by downloading a track for around 89p .. less than the cost of one drink on a Friday night.

We have launched a website meatchart.net, and all our promotional materials will be available through there:

http://www.meatchart.net

Meat has millions of loyal fans who love him and support him.

Stand up with us and together we can do this!!

Our plan follows. Nikox will keep you posted on our progress on this thread.

CarylB

28 May 2010, 12:54

THE PLAN

Our plan is in two phases:

GETTING THE WORD OUT runs from now up until Download Day on 14th June.

We need to spread the word as widely as possible using internet, press, news blogs, radio, TV, word of mouth. Meat has millions of fans around the world, and we want to harness the support of as many of them as possible, and here's where we need your help.

Internet.
We have a promotional video and text to accompany it. This needs to be on as many webpages around the world as we can get it to. We need you to host our video and message on your webpages, Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, fansite, blog .. whatever you have. And we need you to give a link to meatchart.net to encourage more people to support us and do the same. This needs to spread around the internet like a pandemic, reaching out to the millions of fans who own and love his work.

Wherever you visit on the net we need to get this message out:

MEAT LOAF FANS DOING IT FOR MEAT!!!!
Meat Loaf fans everywhere are planning to get his raunchy, rockin' duet with Jack Black
Like A Rose
to Number One in the UK Singles chart
on 14 June 2010
Join the campaign now!
http://www.meatchart.net

When people come to meatchart.net they will be able to get all our promotional materials, plus sign up their commitment to buying the track on 14June, in return getting a signed picture of Meat as a thank you.

Media Coverage
We have a Press Release which will be going to the media on Monday to get this in the news. More and more fans are becoming disillusioned with the way labels treat their cherished iconic performers these days, and are taking matters into their own hands. We intend to capitalise on this. Lorenzoduke is managing our national press campaign.

In addition we need people to volunteer to make contact by phone and email to local radio/TV/newspapers and post on news blogs, spreading the word, and putting the call out to Meat Loaf fans to go to meatchart.net and sign up their commitment to download and to continue spreading the word themselves. Radio stations can't play "Like A Rose" simply because the label hasn't released a second single .. and not one that's almost too hot for airplay :) But it's a story we could interest them in, and just telling listeners to go to meatchart.net would be hugely helpful.

So many people have a story of how Meat's music has touched their lives, often in an incredbly moving way. These human interest stories appeal to the media, and if it grabs their attention, it's another chance to get the word out.

We will have available mini Press Packs for download to help people focus their efforts in the best possible way, and have a team of Local Media Managers who will co-ordinate their efforts and support/advise. 100 calls to the same organisation just tends to piss them off .. we need to be focused, co-ordinated and successful.

The LMMs are:
CarylB
Nikox
Melon
Netty
Snider22
SuzieQ

Please PM them here to offer your support.

Poster Campaign
We have a range of posters to publicise the campaign, which can be downloaded from meatchart.net, and ask people to post them on workplace/recreational notice boards with permission, but not flypost them about in public where they could harm the reputation of the performer they want to support

Mailshots
Rainer has kindly agreed to mailshot the membership list, so please don't be aggravated when you get one which repeats some of this :)
There will also be a reminder on D Day which will give the direct link to the download page on meatchart.net

We're still working on other things, for example harnessing the support of media celebrities, and will update you as and when we have news.

Nikox will post updates on our progress on this thread

LAUNCH DAY 14th JUNE

We will have a new promotional video available from Friday 11 June, which will direct people to meatchart.net to download the single.

Our download page will go live at 12.01am UK time on 14th June. The download sites we will feature will be:
itunes
Amazon.uk
HMV.uk
Tesco

Fans from outside the UK currently cannot download from these sites unless they have a UK bank account or credit/debit card and a UK IP address, but we're working on this to try and find a solution.

We will ensure that all downloads from Amazon.uk are credited to MLUK. We will ask that sites link back to us for downloading to enable this. If anyone wishes people to download the track from their site directly, they will need the relevant urls to ensure this happens, and need to hold back from going live until on or after 00.01am BST.

A second mailshot will go out.

Publicity will continue, with your support, until 19 June at 21.00 BST when the tally of sales will be counted.

This is a time whe Meat's many loyal fans can send a message to the music business, and stand up and be counted in their support of him. Please offer whatever support you can by whatever means we have outlined above, come to http://www.meatchart.net and download as much promotional material as you can use to help make getting Like A Rose to #1 a reality.

Then on 14 June invest 89p in this performer we all follow.

WE CAN DO THIS!!!
LET'S TAKE MEAT TO THE TOP ON 14 JUNE!!!

:cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

Wario

29 May 2010, 02:59

TOTALLY! THIS WILL BE A SUCCESS.

Here is a complimentary wallpaper. hope you like it. :cool:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/WallpaperLIKEAROSE-1.png

Rage Against

29 May 2010, 03:04

Wow, this is well beyond a Meat Loaf street team. Excellent job people!!!!!:D

snider22

29 May 2010, 03:37

TOTALLY! THIS WILL BE A SUCCESS.

Here is a complimentary wallpaper. hope you like it. :cool:

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/WallpaperLIKEAROSE-1.png

Awesome picture man, I just added to the Facebook Group Page

Thanks

nikox1

29 May 2010, 03:45

Awesome picture man, I just added to the Facebook Group Page

Thanks

yeah, super!! thanks!! c,mon join up on facebook now!! MAKE MEAT NUMBER ONE:D , not 2 not 3 but number one!!!!!!!!:D

Wario

29 May 2010, 04:04

wheres the group page at?

Monstro

29 May 2010, 04:37

gotta say I'm well impressed with the work gone into this

nikox1

29 May 2010, 04:42

gotta say I'm well impressed with the work gone into this

thank you, lots more to come we hope?

suzieq

29 May 2010, 05:26

wheres the group page at?

here ya go wario:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680#!/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Suzieq

melon

29 May 2010, 05:27

Wario, AWESOME Thanks guys!! Facebook group here guys.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

melon

29 May 2010, 05:28

here ya go wario:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680#!/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Suzieq

Lol good work Suzie

suzieq

29 May 2010, 05:31

You too Mel. Virtual high 5.

melon

29 May 2010, 06:30

Yeow!

Sarge

29 May 2010, 06:51

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/WallpaperLIKEAROSE-1.png

Good work, I like this better than the video and the posters. :-)

CarylB

29 May 2010, 14:47

gotta say I'm well impressed with the work gone into this

Thanks :) Now we need people to join

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...17435914964680

Pass it on to their contacts and ask them to pass it on to ours

Caryl

robgomm

29 May 2010, 16:55

I'm there, posted to my profile.

TheDoode

29 May 2010, 18:24

Am about to join the Facebook group - but I really, REALLY, suggest the use of Wario's promo poster, because that is EXACTLY the vibe that will help make this whole thing come off! Brilliant, man.

The facebook page is coming across as a bit too fan-made in the writing - can we work on that? Caryl? I've got a few hours this week if you want any input - mail me. In the mean time, this is what I've got:

The record company wouldn't release it. Radio refused to play it.
Now it's down to YOU.

(insert 'uncle sam' pointing type picture)

Sick of being force-fed factory made drum-looped psuedo-pop?
Feeling insulted by being forced to listen to the bland blathering techno-beats forced down your ears by The Man?
Got a real bad ache for some real, ball-busting, guitar injected super-rock?
Then step right up, 'cos we've got the perfect antidote to the bland, souless, robo-girl garbage flooding the airwaves and rotting our miiiiiiinds.

Remember that funky dude with the huge voice and the weight problem? Well now he's in the studio, with Meat Loaf, and man, it's sounding totally frickin' hot:

(insert sound clip link)

If you want music to surivive in the 21st century, help us to help you - to help them - by downloading the single on June 14th,
and let's rock the charts ... and take our music back again.

Time to stick it to the man, people.

Like A Rose - Meat Loaf/Jack Black.

Disclaimer:
If you're easily offended by the f*ck word, well, what the hell, go buy it anyway. Just don't play it in front of your grandparents.

It still needs a little work ... feel free to play.

Doode :cool:

stretch37

29 May 2010, 20:33

Doode - I like it man, lets get that sh** posted up there

I agree...the fb group looks a little too....cliqueish. People should set their display pictures to something other than having Meat in them with them. Its probably intimidating to less-dedicated ppl joining the group.

ps we're gonna have a twitter and myspace page soon, im doing them. we need more of a badass writeup like that. Along with the design of the myspace page, which is pretty damn hot, it will really grab you by the balls and make you want to become involved.

A Slice Of English

29 May 2010, 20:38

I agree. Having looked at some of the profile pictures, they're flat out disturbing.

TheDoode

29 May 2010, 20:44

Hey guys, glad you liked the angle I was going for. It needs some re-wording, but it was a vibe that I wanted to get across that takes away from the whole 'fan-made' angle! However, Caryl has asked me not to post ideas direct to the board - which I may possibly-almost-maybe consider :twisted: - so for now I guess I'll keep it to email unless I feel there's something I need to post.

Feel free to play with the words if you think you can improve on them! I'm all for the collaboration.

Doode :cool:

mtaylor315

29 May 2010, 21:10

I've joined the facebook page, and asked all friends on my facebook to do the same :-)

i'd just like to say that you guys are doing an amazing job with all of this. i expected a great effort, but this is truly great :)

All the best
Mike

mariella

29 May 2010, 23:24

Best song on the album...so I love it with a Passion!....feels like deja vu to CHSIB...I will take 10!

Love,
Mariella

carole

30 May 2010, 01:15

Fantastic guys, this is going to happen!!!!!

Carole

stretch37

30 May 2010, 11:19

Well done to everyone who is involved :D All of your hard work and energy is astounding!

jcmoorehead

30 May 2010, 14:53

Just signed myself up the other day, my girlfriend signed up as well and I just got my friend to. Looking forward to seeing how this pans out.

30 May 2010, 15:05

The more controversial parts of this thread have been moved over here (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14945). Feel free to join the discussion.

nikox1

30 May 2010, 21:45

Thanks for all the support.
Tomorrow we have our first press release go out.
Hopefully this will be picked up by some of the media.
In the meantime we need as many people as we can muster to join our facebook campaignhttp://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

So please join us there and contact as many people as you can, and ask them to do the same, and for them to ask their friends etc etc,,. if we can get people joining in numbers fast? we can seek more press coverage as fans come together to take on the music industry and stand up for Meat and good old rock n roll music. Calling all fans from around the world!! right now we are seeking general support for the principles of the campaign. thank you

Evil One

30 May 2010, 21:50

Putting a link to your Facebook group may have helped with this campaign? :shrug:

30 May 2010, 21:55

CarylB

30 May 2010, 21:55

Join our faceboook group and help spread the word

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Monstro

30 May 2010, 21:56

Putting a link to your Facebook group may have helped with this campaign? :shrug:

Sorted

CarylB

30 May 2010, 22:06

I agree, I had to hunt around too much - only seconds but seconds count - it would be great to have a link with the Facebook logo right at the top of your page... especially as it's Facebook's potential to create a number 1 that you're after.

Apart from that, it's a great idea.

Thanks. We didn't have a facebook page then :) .. but we take ideas on board and run fast with them. Monstro has sorted this update and I've asked R to put it at the top of the first post in our sticky thread .. unless Monstro can do the honours? .. and above the first paragraph on the first post put

Join the Campaign Group facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Thanks

Caryl

30 May 2010, 22:08

Nice one... how exciting. What can I do for the campaign down here in Cornwall?

Monstro

30 May 2010, 22:09

Thanks. We didn't have a facebook page then :) .. but we take ideas on board and run fast with them. Monstro has sorted this update and I've asked R to put it at the top of the first post in our sticky thread .. unless Monstro can do the honours? .. and above the first paragraph on the first post put

Join the Campaign Group facebook page
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=117435914964680

Thanks

Caryl

Done

Cherry.Loaf

30 May 2010, 22:13

Will do my best

edit: having some problems with groups at the minute but will hopefully get to join it soon

CarylB

30 May 2010, 22:24

Done

Cheers and thanks :)

Rage Against

30 May 2010, 22:58

Nice job on the website and materials!! I've posted the campaign to my Facebook and joined the group. Let me know what else I can do. Exciting stuff...:up:

Monstro

31 May 2010, 22:46

Meat Loaf Fans Rally In Support Of UK Chart Effort....

http://www.prlog.org/10706779-meat-loaf-fans-rally-in-support-of-uk-chart-effort.html

stretch37

01 Jun 2010, 11:29

Twitter and Myspace are now live!

http://www.twitter.com/meatchart

http://www.myspace.com/meatchart

Follow and add us if you support the campaign :-)

TheDoode

01 Jun 2010, 15:00

Tick, tock - thirteen days.

01 Jun 2010, 16:05

Is it not possible to get something on the official site and Meat's twitter page?

Does anyone know how many copies need to be downloaded to be within a chance?

Sarge

01 Jun 2010, 16:13

Is it not possible to get something on the official site and Meat's twitter page?

I don't know whether that's a good idea. It would appear kind of strange if the artist himself promoted such a fan campaign. That could easily be misinterpreted.

TheDoode

01 Jun 2010, 17:02

Thirteen days to download day!

duke knooby

02 Jun 2010, 00:37

the promotion appears to be heavily advertising jack blacks involvement... is there any promotion targeted directly to the jack black/tenacious d fans??

Pudding

02 Jun 2010, 03:55

How's the "We want 2000 fans a day" target coming along on Facebook?

SueW

02 Jun 2010, 09:07

I've just had to delete several posts which are just snipes at each other.

Please keep on topic and treat everybody with respect.

Battybarb

02 Jun 2010, 15:14

just read whats on here,had already joined on the facebook page,impressed with the work thats gone into it all

Dave

02 Jun 2010, 16:06

Is it not possible to get something on the official site and Meat's twitter page?

Lady GaGa has thrown shout outs to fan vids on YouTube, and I know Aaron Carter and Adam Lambert have had recent tweets promoting fan based campaigns. It is not uncommon. We are in the digital age - in 30 minutes, massive groups of people have made random things "trend" in Twitter, which generates buzz in the media. It is all viral and rampant now. The times they are a'changing.

Wario

02 Jun 2010, 17:44

look at it this way we have at the moment almost 600 members in the group :D:D:D:D

thats a little more then half the population of Wyoming :cool:

daveake

02 Jun 2010, 17:49

It's nearly the same as the number of polls that you've started ;-).

Is this going to be enough or do TPTB need to find something to get the number up towards the 2000 per day target that was mentioned? I guess it's somewhere less than a tenth of that so far.

Pudding

02 Jun 2010, 22:26

Jayd

02 Jun 2010, 23:59

Could do with Kev weighing in here with numbers and what chart position it could reach.

Out of interest, if one person downloaded the track a dozen times would it class as a dozen sales or just one because of the same IP address?

I read something about this when Rage Against The Machine was going for number 1. Even if you buy the track from various sites, they have a way of tracking your purchases, so only once will your purchase count, I presume it's through your IP address. :D

Monstro

03 Jun 2010, 00:00

Could do with Kev weighing in here with numbers and what chart position it could reach.

Only info I could find on this is here....

http://www.ukchartsplus.co.uk/singleschart.htm

1500 to get to 75

AndyK

03 Jun 2010, 00:09

I read something about this when Rage Against The Machine was going for number 1. Even if you buy the track from various sites, they have a way of tracking your purchases, so only once will your purchase count, I presume it's through your IP address. :D

I'm not sure that's strictly true, the campaign by Leeds fans recently was based around the fact that you could purchase multiple copies over a period of time I don't thikn there is any IP address tracking other than ensuring that the purchase is made in the UK. iTunes also has the "send a gift" feature which means one person could buy the track for multiple people to download.

nikox1

03 Jun 2010, 00:19

I'm not sure that's strictly true, the campaign by Leeds fans recently was based around the fact that you could purchase multiple copies over a period of time I don't thikn there is any IP address tracking other than ensuring that the purchase is made in the UK. iTunes also has the "send a gift" feature which means one person could buy the track for multiple people to download.

thats correct Andy!! i spoke with itunes today, plenty of options:D
thanks

carole

03 Jun 2010, 01:02

Twitter and Myspace are now live!

http://www.twitter.com/meatchart

http://www.myspace.com/meatchart

Follow and add us if you support the campaign :-)

Thanks for that. So how do you get added as a friend on the Myspace page?

Carole

stretch37

03 Jun 2010, 01:08

Thats wicked about itunes :)

To those of you who are interested and enthused by our campaign, here's another link of interest!

I encourage you to post it on your personal blog or website, because the more links we have, the faster web crawlers will pick it up and index it! The sitemap and SEO is set up, we just need hard linkage.

http://www.meatchart.net/blog

ps...630 members and growing fast on fb :)

carole

03 Jun 2010, 11:48

Thanks, looks great.

Carole

Kev

03 Jun 2010, 12:19

Ankie

03 Jun 2010, 12:46

Out of interest, if one person downloaded the track a dozen times would it class as a dozen sales or just one because of the same IP address?

Yes, wondering about that too.
Kev, do you have any information regarding that one?

daveake

03 Jun 2010, 13:10

It's got to be the number of purchases, not downloads.

Kev

03 Jun 2010, 13:10

Its a bit tricky, there isn't anything to stop you ordering 1 version each day and from different retailers.
Example being - Us monday, amazon tuesday, Play wednesday, HMV thursday, us friday, Amazon saturday, Itunes sunday.

If you were to order one from each place each day then they might get thrown out... also ordering many versions from the same place on the same day could get thrown out also.

Also, orders from outside the UK won't count, but there are ways around that :)

The Flying Mouse

03 Jun 2010, 19:09

:twisted: Out of interest, has anyone contacted the Jack Black fans?
THere must be a forum or facegroup group?

If so, what has the responce been?

Jayd

03 Jun 2010, 21:36

Evil One

03 Jun 2010, 22:21

multiple track buying does affect something, I have been trying to find it, but as yet, not found it. :D
Your bank account? :twisted:

Pudding

03 Jun 2010, 23:18

LMAO :lmao:

robgomm

04 Jun 2010, 13:46

Sue K

04 Jun 2010, 13:51

Hey guys, i've posted the campaign on my facebook and twitter pages, and i've spent a long time visting about 20 different forums that i subscribe to to try and get the word out. Not sure what else I can do?

fine job ! ... and a big thanks to all working the project and to those carrying forth the word !

robgomm

04 Jun 2010, 13:54

I'd still like to do more if I can? Just not sure what.

robgomm

04 Jun 2010, 13:54

What about emailing all the national papers, maybe they will put a small acrticle on it. Anythings better than nothing right?

AndyK

04 Jun 2010, 17:16

I've been asked to pass the following news along

Marya Roxx, LA based power rocker, has joined the Campaign facebook as a member.

A new website 21centuryrock.net (www.21centuryrock.net), is now on-line aimed at the wider market of rock afficianados, and people who are disillusioned with the music business/labels.

We're still working hard to trigger the internet reaction we need to have numbers of supporters grow exponentially and fast. Numbers are steadily increasing, but the ripple effect has yet to take hold. [B]Anyone who would like to help and support this by putting in an hour hitting websites with the campaign message, please PM Melon (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/member.php?u=3162);Netty (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/member.php?u=4381);snider22 (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/member.php?u=3966);suzieq (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/member.php?u=3941). That way we have most tme zones covered, and will get back to you asap. We're working on it full tilt, but the web's huge, so any help would be tremendous.[B]

We're also aiming for maximum hits on youtube, so passing this link along to contacts/forums etc would be a great help:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piyrIbZu9U4

robgomm

04 Jun 2010, 18:40

Just to update I have emailed the press release to 11 different national newspapers so far. Hopefully get time to do more tomorrow. I will also try to contact all the radio stations I can on the web to see if we can get a mention somewhere.

AndrewG

04 Jun 2010, 22:38

Is Meat Loaf aware of this campaign?

CarylB

04 Jun 2010, 23:17

Yes, he is.

Jayd

04 Jun 2010, 23:22

Your bank account? :twisted:
:lmao:

Pudding

05 Jun 2010, 00:16

Yes, he is.

And his thoughts are?

CarylB

05 Jun 2010, 00:34

You'd need to ask him:) He knows, and he and his PA have been kept informed.

Pudding

05 Jun 2010, 00:49

So you have no clue if he's for or against it?

CarylB

05 Jun 2010, 01:02

http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=497829&postcount=117

Pudding

05 Jun 2010, 08:07

Cheers. I don't read every single post so I missed it.

Sarge

05 Jun 2010, 15:10

I read an FHM interview in which Meat states that he dislikes the fact that you can purchase individual songs from an album via download stores. So does this campaign actually promote and will he possibly benefit from something he used to criticize?

robgomm

05 Jun 2010, 21:48

robgomm

05 Jun 2010, 21:50

AndrewG

05 Jun 2010, 21:58

Yeah he dislikes it but until the rules change he's just got to accept it i'm afraid as have we all. I don't agree with it either by the way. And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

I seriously doubt this is MORE promotion and would/will reach more people than the things the record company and Meat Loaf have done and will be doing (touring etc)...

I do see drawbacks with this campaign but if I point these out I will be shot down. Some may say rightly so I guess. :shrug:

A Slice Of English

05 Jun 2010, 21:58

On another note, I know we have the facebook group which has over 800 members now, but has someone made sure that the link to that group has been posted on all the other Meat Loaf fan groups on facebook? Because there's another 3,000+ members combined on those other groups. I'm surprised we don't have at least this number of members on our group by now.

The discussion over how the campaign was conducted has been closed, but I would nudge you in that threads direction to have a read if you want to see what others have thought about the promotion/presentation of the campaign.

Sarge

05 Jun 2010, 22:04

Yeah he dislikes it [...] And yes of course this campaign is promoting him because there would be no promotion at all if this campaign wasn't up and running. And Meat can only benefit from this, there are no drawbacks to this campaign.

The album in its entirety seems to be very important to Meat. He even "forced" people to listen to the whole thing. Shouldn't a single promote the album? The campaign concentrates very much on the song and the involvement of Jack Black. There are hardly references to the album.

A Slice Of English

05 Jun 2010, 22:09

Better not to discuss it Sarge. The team are working so hard that they shouldn't have to deal with criticism on top of that.

Sarge

05 Jun 2010, 22:13

It's not criticism, just an observation. ;)

duke knooby

06 Jun 2010, 01:55

Shouldn't a single promote the album?

if youre going old school, and using singles as promotion for an album, then yes... but that song choice isn't a single, and i believe the campaign is just trying to get meat back into the charts... and then take any promo on for future releases or album work from there

btw, excellent point... the album should be promoted at least as much!!!

Pudding

06 Jun 2010, 03:35

Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

Sue K

06 Jun 2010, 04:08

Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

i voted for it ... i'm listening to it right now ... and i really like it ... i'm old school ... "it's catchy... i can chair dance to it... " ... i don't care much for Jack Black... i find that Destiny or whatever the band of his is called not my cup of tea... quite frankly Jack Black's antics on film are not my cup of tea either... a bit over the top ala Jim Carey for my taste ... but i'm aware he's popular with younger folks ... or popular period... and i think it's a good song to push to get attention ...

i like the little rap in the beginning.. i'm not a fan of rap... but that bit reminds me of a more gentler earlier old school rap sound ... along the lines of Run DMC when they got together with Aerosmith ... Walk This Way ... you know... one rapper/ singer starts and the other comes in/ talks over ... and i like the pause in Rose ... and the take off of the music...

if this forum was Bandstand i'd rate Rose 95 ... because i like the sound and can dance to it ... ;) ... here's hoping i'll be rockin' out to it when i see 'Imself in concert next month !!!

CarylB

06 Jun 2010, 04:44

Out of curiosity, was the song of choice 'Like A Rose' chosen because it's seen as the best song on the album or because it has Jack Black in it?

There was a first poll here on the UK forum, then the top 4 from that were put to the vote again:
Like A Rose 37%
If It Rains 22.86%
Elvis in Vegas 21.43%
If I Can't Have You 18.57%

So it was chosen by the fans here who voted. I'd have been happy to promote any of them, but I too think Like A Rose is catchy, has a raunchy edge which broadens its appeal imo, and because it's a duet can appeal to a wider audience than Meat Loaf fans.

Now you know why two people voted for it :) Can't speak for the rest.

Caryl

Pudding

06 Jun 2010, 05:22

if this forum was Bandstand i'd rate Rose 95 ...

What's Bandstand?

Sue K

06 Jun 2010, 05:27

What's Bandstand?

a show hosted by Dick Clark back in the late 50s through ... the late 80s early 90s ? here in the States ... one of the features of the show was to play a new release and have a couple teens rate it ... it really became a bit of a satiric and catch phrase thing to say similar lines said on the show... ie ... "i give it a 75 ... it's got a good beat and i can dance to it" ... lol ...

however... lol ... i was quite sincere when i said similar about Like A Rose ! ... ;) ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bandstand

man ... lol ... the internet is great... lol ... there we go ... lol ...

Pudding

06 Jun 2010, 11:30

Never watched the show, never heard of the show, so knowing Bandstand and American Bandstand are one of the same is meaningless to me :shrug: Thanks for the explanation though.

What's the realistic target for this song? Top 50?, Top 40?, Top 30?, Top 20?, Top 10?, Number #1 :wtf: :faint:

Sarge

06 Jun 2010, 11:48

but that song choice isn't a single

It is called "the fan campaign single", so I'd expect at least a few traditional single features. ;)

i believe the campaign is just trying to get meat back into the charts... and then take any promo on for future releases or album work from there

I rather do not express my thoughts on this. I'm afraid it would depress me...

AndrewG

06 Jun 2010, 13:42

What's the realistic target for this song? Top 50?, Top 40?, Top 30?, Top 20?, Top 10?, Number #1 :wtf: :faint:

I think number 1 would be very hard the week from the 14th considering the World Cup song and Eminem's new single are out then in the UK.

Sue K

06 Jun 2010, 13:53

Never watched the show, never heard of the show, so knowing Bandstand and American Bandstand are one of the same is meaningless to me :shrug: Thanks for the explanation though.

you're welcome... and thank you actually... i enjoyed the trip down memory lane via America Bandstand's wikipedia entry ! ...

robgomm

07 Jun 2010, 00:56

To be honest I don't know we'll get anywhere as we don't appear to have many members right now, hopefully it's really going to grow through this week. But i'm gonna keep on pushing anyway, it's been a fun little project for me.

I don't know how many sales you need to get into the top 40 these days? Perhaps someone could tell us who was no. 40 last week and how many they sold?

A Slice Of English

07 Jun 2010, 22:59

887 members as of today. I think this is going to be a rather embarrassing flop. Which is a shame.

Pudding

08 Jun 2010, 10:23

Maybe there's some who'll download the song who haven't joined the campaign.

Sarge

08 Jun 2010, 10:37

I wonder how many people will download the song because they really like it and how many will be those who already own the CD but will download the song anyway in order to "support" Meat. I would like to know how representative the result will be as to how popular the song actually is.

allrevvedup

08 Jun 2010, 12:19

people don't always buy a single just because they like it, in fact I'm sure with the likes of X Factor's winning entry in any given year the reason to buy that single is to be seen as following the trend.

A Slice Of English

08 Jun 2010, 19:07

The reality is you will never know who is downloading it for what reason. I think a realistic figure for the number of downloads on the D-Day will be 1000 to 2000 and I would not be surprised if some people download the song through multiple different methods as some kind of deluded "support" type thing. I would be surprised, and pleasantly so, if the song made it anywhere near the Top 40.

AndrewG

09 Jun 2010, 00:12

duke knooby

09 Jun 2010, 00:44

a bit of positivity would be nice...

btw, is it wise to select one day for the download, or would the time frame applicable to the chart entry be better??

it may encourage multiple downloads... who knows

Evil One

09 Jun 2010, 00:47

a bit of positivity would be nice...
Where's the Doode when you need him! :twisted:

Pudding

09 Jun 2010, 02:24

allrevvedup

09 Jun 2010, 02:47

i don't know what it is in the scheme of things but I do know that, based on the figures so far, it'll have a close to a thousand or so extra downloads of it on June 14th.

So it will have some impact, whether it's enough to be noticed on the chart is another thing

carole

09 Jun 2010, 07:44

Does anyone know if those outside the UK can download it? I think they were trying to fix it so we could.

Carole

robgomm

09 Jun 2010, 13:44

Hey guys, i've been doing some research and the top 5 Radio stations in the UK are BBC2, BBC4, BBC1, Heart FM, and Talksport. We should try to target these somehow and get the word out on Radio.

Evil One

09 Jun 2010, 14:48

You'll definitely be wasting your time with Radio 4 and Talksport.

robgomm

09 Jun 2010, 15:25

How come?

Evil One

09 Jun 2010, 15:45

Talksport is just talking about sport. Radio 4 is various dramas, plays and other spoken stuff. Neither have anything to do with music.

robgomm

09 Jun 2010, 16:09

Okay thanks for the advice.

09 Jun 2010, 16:31

Radio 2 would be the best bet as Chris Evans, Ken Bruce, Steve Wright and Simon Mayo are all Meat Loaf fans. That's pretty much all of their daytime line-up. Jeremy Vine is more of a Smiths and 80's man I think!!

Someone here must have a link to one of these guys?

Luke

AndrewG

09 Jun 2010, 16:36

I'm not part of the campaign but this is how you can best contact these guys:

Ken Bruce (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/bruce/contact.shtml) email: ken.bruce@bbc.co.uk
Steve Wright (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/steve-wright-in-the-afternoon/contact/)
chris.evans@bbc.co.uk
mayo@bbc.co.uk and here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/shows/simon-mayo/get-in-touch/)

AndrewG

09 Jun 2010, 16:53

Sue K

09 Jun 2010, 16:53

I'm not part of the campaign but this is how you can best contact these guys:

lol ... ta for the info... but you made me laugh with this line... i'm in silly enough mode today for it to make me think of Peter in denial of Jesus... lol ... PLUS Jesus Christ SuperStar was on tv last night... so i'm still Ted Neeley's Jesus-upped ...

i think "ta for the info" kept it on topic ... nenh ? ... lol ...

robgomm

09 Jun 2010, 17:18

thanks very much AndrewG, I had actually already been to the website and emailed all those guys, but thanks anyway. Nice to know they are all Meat fans. Hopefully we'll get some mentions.

Vickip

09 Jun 2010, 17:27

This question has probably already been asked but is there a clean version they can potentially use for airplay?? I hope so.
I looked on I-tunes and it had the Clean Lyrics label but the preview has the F word in it?

http://www.spinner.com/2010/04/23/meat-loaf-like-a-rose-feat-jack-black-song-premiere/

Pudding

09 Jun 2010, 22:52

This question has probably already been asked but is there a clean version they can potentially use for airplay?? I hope so.
I looked on I-tunes and it had the Clean Lyrics label but the preview has the F word in it?

Good point. Most artists who use profanity in their lyrics come out with a clean version just for radio, if there isn't one in this case then they might not play it all :shrug:

AndrewG

09 Jun 2010, 23:01

Yeah I just hope the version Vicki pointed out is actually available for them to get ahold of?? Radio 2 won't play it otherwise I would have thought. I can't see why they wouldn't mention the campaign though. Surely if lots of different people bombard the email addresses with it, it would get picked up??

robgomm

10 Jun 2010, 10:24

Well i've done my bit, just need others to.

The Flying Mouse

11 Jun 2010, 00:59

:twisted: Posts relating to The Doode's ban have been moved here (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=15011)

Please continue this thread on topic.
Cheers :up:

Monstro

11 Jun 2010, 01:59

I've been asked by the campaign team to forward this.....

Those following the progress of the campaign the last 2 weeks will know that, despite our best efforts, we didn't create the exponential (Su-Bo) effect we had wanted to achieve to secure our goal in a short time-frame.

We're thrilled with, and considerably proud of what we've achieved. We have just over 1100 people actively wanting to push this forward, and although we didn't manage to light the flash fire we needed for a quick win, we know we have the base to be successful with a longer campaign. So the decision we have taken to not go for it next week isn't in our eyes a failure, but based on our conviction that we can, and will, be successful with an adjusted strategy. This project was always about supporting Meat, and by securing a win in the UK Singles charts gain publicity and help increase awareness and sales of HCTB. That remains the same.

Tracking on our website indicates there is a large and ever-growing list of links that Google's crawlers are linking to our site. What we've all been doing IS taking hold, but we need now to continue building the fire we've built and grow that to get the numbers we need, whilst knowing that at any time the Su-Bo effect may kick in and a the sudden rapid rush across the internet occur. The longer time scale will also give us more time to get the interest of the media which should provide a key boost to the campaign.

We have had promising discussions with a major download provider, and if we can demonstrate the numbers we need and intend to get to make this a success, we should be able get this company on board, and in such a way as to generate extra sales that week.

We know the support is out there. We know we can harness it. But we have always been agreed that should we find at this stage that going with the original target date would result in an effort which doesn't register in the charts, we would defer it:
* To preserve the integrity of a model approach we've built and are continuing to build, that we are proud of, and know in our hearts can work
* For the sake of all those fans who ARE committed and want to make this work for Meat
* Most importantly to ensure Meat's name can't be associated with a campaign that didn't deliver the result he deserves, because we know that, even if not this month, we CAN make this work

The many enthusiastic and committed fans who are behind Meat and the project want him to have a chart success, not a damp squib. We will work with them to ensure we build towards a rocket he can be proud of. So we will continue to spread the word, reaching more fans every day, and the message will keep spreading, gathering momentum faster and faster as it goes until, when we go for the new date we will be doing it with the knowledge that success is certain.

In addition we are going to commence a sustained promotion of HCTB, through a new website. Far from distracting us from the Single Campaign, we believe each push will assist the other. The HCTB promotion will follow the principles advocated by Roadrunner, seeking to establish a ground force of Street Teams to spread the word, and we will adopt the same method with the Singles Campaign. The level of effort, the hours we have put in, need to be reined back a bit if we are not to suffer burnout, but our level of committment is if anything greater, as is our determination. We will actively recruit and harness the support of other fans and focus our efforts on a sustained campaign for LAR and HCTB.

The HCTB site (meatloaf-hangcool.net) is well timed to co-incide with Meat's USA/Canada tour, and support a second sales push there, although it will seek to promote HCTB around the world. Full details will be on the new site by Monday.

The Singles Campaign will now focus on a new date of 29 November 2010, which we hope may also coincide with some UK tour dates. We are announcing the deferral via meatchart.net and our other webpages, through a mailshot to those who signed up on meatchart.net, a message to Facebook members, and a Press Release tomorrow. We are aware that some who've signed up to support the download may have their attention drift elsewhere, but will contact everyone who has signed up to dowload with a reminder before the new date.

Future updates on progress will be posted on meatchart.net in the News Room. We are supremely grateful for the support Rainer has given us through the MLUKFC site, and hope this will continue, but we are aware of a level of controversy the campaign has caused in the forum here and the extra work it has caused R and his team. Those who are interested in our progress can easily follow it on our site, and those that would like to lend support will be very welcome.

We're in no way despondent, but still highly committed and motivated, because we know we can make this work. We've achieved a helluva lot in a couple of weeks, and have a sound base to build from, but also need to face reality.What a few people may say about us doesn't matter, because we still firmly believe we can do this, and remain as enthusiastic as ever.

Meat Loaf Fan Single Campaign Project Team
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