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With regard to this thread: http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15259, do not offer any kind of support, wether financial or otherwise.
Read the last post in that thread and draw your own conclusions.
Evil One
01 Aug 2010, 13:56
Just goes to show why you should never be nice to people! :twisted:
A Slice Of English
01 Aug 2010, 14:04
I smelled a rat from the off, hence my reluctance to do anything except offer condolences. I feel bad for all those people who took AJ on face value when the reality of it was he was simply pulling on heart strings for the chance of a free ticket. Just terrible that these things can happen like this.
Evil One
01 Aug 2010, 14:16
I smelled a rat from the off, hence my reluctance to do anything except offer condolences. I feel bad for all those people who took AJ on face value when the reality of it was he was simply pulling on heart strings for the chance of a free ticket. Just terrible that these things can happen like this.
Me too. The fact he was talking of attending another concert as well was also somewhat suspicious! :twisted:
A Slice Of English
01 Aug 2010, 14:23
I sincerely believe the stuff he was posting about singing with the band before the show was also hogwash but I held my tongue until now. Some people think the internet is a place where they can do what they like and say what they like to people which is fine, but when it goes further and you start extorting money from people, that's when it becomes that much worse.
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 14:29
Me too. The fact he was talking of attending another concert as well was also somewhat suspicious! :twisted:
That's what I thought too. When he contacted me directly for help I didn't reply. I would give money if it was organised through the site and everyone was in on it but not directly.
When he also decided to post "I have C..." in every thread I thought that was rather ridiculous. I hope he doesn't have it but if he does not then it is a f*cking insult to post in that way.
I've also removed him from my Facebook just to be safe.
Cristina
01 Aug 2010, 14:30
using illness (and this kind of illness) for money purpose is a punch in the face and show so much disrespect to those who are really in need and those who are really ill. I'm disgusted.
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 14:30
I sincerely believe the stuff he was posting about singing with the band before the show was also hogwash but I held my tongue until now.
Agreed, since when do the NLE invite guest singers. They've had some famous tribute acts in the audience. Steve Steinman was at RAH, I didn't see him climb the stage.
using illness (and this kind of illness) for money purpose is a punch in the face and show so much disrespect to those who are really in need and those who are really ill. I'm disgusted.
Yes, but I'm not surprised. In my experience people who are battling cancer get on with the fight and don't keep broadcasting it in an attempt to get sympathy or financial help; they have more dignity. Like Slice, my antennae pricked up at the first mention, and reading the accounts posted about the show just served to confirm my suspicions.
As you say it's such an affront to those with genuine illness. A dear friend of mine who has fought, and we hope beaten, breast cancer was appalled by this nasty attempt to scam money out of people. That it was only in part successful is thanks to Rainer's prudence and investigation.
I sincerely believe the stuff he was posting about singing with the band before the show was also hogwash but I held my tongue until now.
I hope so; I'd hate to think Paul was taken in and thought he was doing something special for a person who was suffering from a life-threatening illness. I hope the story about Meat looking out into the crowd, looking him straight in the eyes and mouthing "That was for you" was hogwash too. Meat is always so kind and generous to people who have genuine stories of battling illness or despair. I hate seeing people take advantage of the good hearts of others :( It's beyond tacky; to me it's loathesome.
Caryl
A Slice Of English
01 Aug 2010, 15:21
It is unforgiveable. Utterly. Too many people have fought and died fighting the big C to make it anything other than deplorable and inhuman.
R did the right thing from the off. I can't deny that it concerned me enough to raise the issue weeks ago anyway in private to the mod team and I'm glad they have reacted so responsibly.
Don't thank me, I'm just the messenger. :bleh:
Ivestigational and organisational kudos belong to the mod team!
mtaylor315
01 Aug 2010, 16:03
I didn't post on the thread but I did keep an eye on it.
I initially felt sorry for this person, but as the thread grew, I did start to feel suspicion.
To think somebody has taken advantage of many peoples good nature by claiming to have one of the worst conditions a person can suffer from is quite frankly disgusting!
I'm glad that this person has been found out.
Such a shame however, as you dont expect people to be so inhuman by doing something like this :( but i guess that happens sometimes:?
Mike.
I think what this does highlight and is something that's worth remembering is that just because someone posts regularly does not mean that you know them. Don't get me wrong, this fanclub/forum has created some lifelong friendships and relationships for many of us, but it's easy to forget that we've actually not even met so many people here...it's easy to get used to seeing someone's user-name and reading their posts but that is no indication at all to the person behind them.
That's not to say we should all be suspicious of those we've not met here but perhaps we need to "keep it real" a little more
He got off petty easy in a way. He got to go to a meat loaf concert because of some member's generosity.
If it were up to me Id press charges.
I seem to recall I was a little back stepped earlier for voicing my suspicions about him actually performing with The NLE.
A Slice Of English
01 Aug 2010, 19:40
Well Wario, you and I conversed about that via PM and you know you weren't the only one to feel that way.
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 19:41
He got off petty easy in a way. He got to go to a meat loaf concert because of some member's generosity.
If it were up to me Id press charges.
I seem to recall I was a little back stepped earlier for voicing my suspicions about him actually performing with The NLE.
Well it looks like he may face charges for the whole laptop thing anyway going by the PBnation thread. The good thing is if you pay through Paypal there is definitely some stuff they can do, however for some reason it seems he managed to use a friend's account, a friend now wanting an explanation obviously. Interesting he has lots of time available to set up a new Meat Loaf forum and to try to nab members away from here but no time to deal with the laptop dispute. What an ahole.
Well Wario, you and I conversed about that via PM and you know you weren't the only one to feel that way.
yep, just at a point in time i thought us two were the only ones that thought that.
A Slice Of English
01 Aug 2010, 19:44
Maybe so, but it is a damn shame nothing could be done to prevent honest posters losing money on this jerk.
We tried to warn people to use discretion as soon as we realised something was wrong. Until we had more proof there was sadly not much more that could be done.
If those who did contribute wish to pursue matters then if they contact myself or Rainer via PM, we'll collate the details of all those who were caught up and put them in touch with each other and provide what help we can in repoting this to the relevant authorities.
Maybe so, but it is a damn shame nothing could be done to prevent honest posters losing money on this jerk.
Well, fraud is against the law. If R wanted to he could press charges (not really recommended but its possible. I would think admins have an IP Databae)
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 19:53
Don't think you can lay blame with the mods here Wario or should expect R. to pursue this. They closed the thread very early to see what was going on as it was a strange case that I don't think any of us have come across before. An IP address won't tell you jack shit.
Don't think you can lay blame with the mods here Wario or should expect R. to pursue this. They closed the thread very early to see what was going on as it was a strange case that I don't think any of us have come across before. An IP address won't tell you jack shit.
Oh no.. i wasnt laying blame. They are the best admins ever.
It was just a suggestion on how to find AJ. I dunno about IPs i just thought they tell you like your location.
And Andy pretty much summed it up in the post before me what I was trying to say.
A Slice Of English
01 Aug 2010, 20:00
Indeed, I think it would be down to the individual to pursue any criminal case if they wish. In te UK it would probably fall under Fraud by False Representation and things could get messy if the individual contributors who have lost out as a result of this matter are spread over different countries but there is clearly no blame to be laid at the door of anyone here except AJ.
Discretion should be used when speaking to anyone on the internet that you have not personally met and known for some time, that would be my advice as a police officer.
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 20:01
Oh no.. i wasnt laying blame. They are the very smart admins.
It was just a suggestion on how to track aj. I dunno about IPs i just thought they tell you like your location.
Well apparently he is "a certified computer technician" so he probably knows about proxies.
http://media.mlxxfc.net/pinocchio1.gif
Monstro
01 Aug 2010, 20:30
It was just a suggestion on how to find AJ. I dunno about IPs i just thought they tell you like your location.
On the other hand reading a certain thread on another mentioned forum reveals his home address :sherlock:
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 20:47
I suggest R. travels there to see what's what.
I suggest R. travels there to see what's what.
lol. I think AJ's going to that Dallas show. Unlikely he is gonna waste the ticket he got to that show. Im also awhere many forum members are going to that show. Thats gonna be interesting.
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 20:53
Maybe someone should bring a paint ball gun and shoot one in his balls or alternatively ask him how his cancer is doing. Do take photos though when he takes to the stage with the NLE.
lol. I think AJ's going to that Dallas show. Unlikely he is gonna waste the ticket he got to that show. Im also awhere many forum members are going to that show. Thats gonna be interesting.
Who else from the forum, besides myself, are planning on going to the show :??:
I would just like to be able to match names to faces :wink:
Who else from the forum, besides myself, are planning on going to the show :??:
I would just like to be able to match names to faces :wink:
Could have sworn I saw here that a handful of people were going to the dallas show.
BTW Vicki, i feel so bad. You seemed to be really getting along with AJ.
Could have sworn I saw here that a handful of people were going to the dallas show.
Oh ok .. I know a lot of us were talking about it :-)
BTW Vicki, i feel so bad. You seemed to be really getting along with AJ.
Thanks.
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 21:08
BTW Vicki, i feel so bad. You seemed to be really getting along with AJ.
Probably one of the best things you have ever posted Wario. I completely agree. Especially Vicki embraced AJ with open arms. It makes me furious. :mad:
On the other hand reading a certain thread on another mentioned forum reveals his home address :sherlock:
I've had dealings with AJ a few months ago and it didn't exactly go to plan. It was my own stupid fault for being so trustworthy but because of it I have his address.
I didn't reply to the message about his cancer diagnosis because of this earlier experience with him but had it have been proven to be genuine I'd have been as supportive as I would be to anyone who had just recieved such a diagnosis. I had a feeling that something wasn't right about what was going on but I didn't say anything in case my earlier experiences were clouding my judgement. When he started talking about playing with the NLE and things like that I knew he wasn't telling the truth.
It's just a shame that there are people who take advantage of others peoples generosity.
Probably one of the best things you have ever posted Wario. I completely agree. Especially Vicki embraced AJ with open arms. It makes me furious. :mad:
Thank you.
unbekannt
01 Aug 2010, 21:38
I don't know you, Vicki, but I followed the story here on the forum and I feel very bad for you, too.
I don't know you, Vicki, but I followed the story here on the forum and I feel very bad for you, too.
Thanks :wink:
The Flying Mouse
01 Aug 2010, 22:54
R did the right thing from the off. I can't deny that it concerned me enough to raise the issue weeks ago anyway in private to the mod team and I'm glad they have reacted so responsibly.
:twisted: This is how long this investigation has took.
We thought there was something wrong with his story from the get go.
For one, he seemed more concerned with the concert than his health, and with being put in touch with Meat directly.
I have a feeling that he had hopes Meat giving him a free VIP ticket complete with backstage pass, M&G, and maybe even a nice memento of the occasion.
Talking about how his tribute act was going from strength to strength, singing with the NLE (did anyone on this site believe a single word of that one? :nuts: ), thinking of going to another concert (hinting for a ticket IMHO) just made our suspicions that much stronger.
The problem was the possibility that we were wrong, and having enough proof or reasonable doubt to take direct action.
I'm sure you can all appreciate that if we publicly accused a cancer patient of being a fraudulent fake and banning him without any proof, and it turned out we were wrong, we would be less popular than an unwanted gas evacuation inside an astronaughts traveling togs.
I think what this does highlight and is something that's worth remembering is that just because someone posts regularly does not mean that you know them. Don't get me wrong, this fanclub/forum has created some lifelong friendships and relationships for many of us, but it's easy to forget that we've actually not even met so many people here...it's easy to get used to seeing someone's user-name and reading their posts but that is no indication at all to the person behind them.
That's not to say we should all be suspicious of those we've not met here but perhaps we need to "keep it real" a little more
Very sad, but very true.
Interesting he has lots of time available to set up a new Meat Loaf forum and to try to nab members away from here but no time to deal with the laptop dispute. What an ahole.
It's my feeling that he may have known we had our suspicions (if he didn't, he's an idiot as well as an asshole) and he was facing a ban, and wanted to set up his own community in case things fell apart for him here.
What good that will do him though is pretty limited as the online Meat Loaf community have got his card marked.
Maybe so, but it is a damn shame nothing could be done to prevent honest posters losing money on this jerk.
This is regretable (more than regretable), but again, without proof there was only so much we were able to do due to the delicate nature of the problem.
I locked the thread and asked people to wait before making any donations so that they could go to an official source rather than a private individual in the hope that this would give us more time to look into the problem before people started handing over their hard earned.
It was our reasoning that if he supplied the details of his health care provider (ones that could be checked out and verrified) then he was for real, but if he was a fake he wouldn't be able to do this.
Numerous requests were sent asking for these details and delays were all we got back.
It was decided to give a deadline on the matter for one day this week, but this other evidence has made that redundant.
All in all, I can honestly say that I don't recall any other occurance of site moderation that has taken such time, deep thought, and discussion.
Between our deepening suspicions coupled with our desire to protect the membership from a scam, versus the slight possibility we were about to make a terrible mistake, nothing in my experience as a mod has ever been more difficult to call.
I think the team have acted in a highly resposible manner, and have done the best job anyone could have done under the same circumstances.
As for the scam itself, I am thoroughly disgusted.
Meat himself has supported cancer charities as his own mother was a cancer victim, and for someone who calls themselves a Meat Loaf fan to try to fraudulently profit from the good hearted and generous people of our community makes my blood boil.
Ironically, if he had posted an honest message saying "you know what folks, i'm a bit short of cash and I wanna go to this show, anyone fancy having a whip round to get me a ticket?" then I believe the people on this forum would have clubbed together and stumped up the money for the ticket, and there would have been no mod investigation as there was no fraud involved.
Between his scams and stories of tribute singing and getting on stage with the NLE, he's a con man and a fantisist.
He has no place here.
Sarahdk23
01 Aug 2010, 23:18
:twisted:
Between his scams and stries of tribute singing and getting on stage with the NLE, he's a con man and a fantisist.
He has no place here.
Very well said!
lol. I think AJ's going to that Dallas show. Unlikely he is gonna waste the ticket he got to that show. Im also awhere many forum members are going to that show. Thats gonna be interesting.
I'm going to the Dallas show, but don't know what he looks like so wouldn't know him if I tripped over him. I must admit I'm rather shocked at this and feel badly for the people who were taken in by him.
Carole
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 23:36
His phone number has been posted too. Lol.
Apparently his friend is going over to pick up the laptop tonight. Lol.
This story gets more crazy every hour.
~Helen~
01 Aug 2010, 23:38
I haven't posted on anything relating to this yet but have been observing from afar.
I think the team have acted in a highly resposible manner, and have done the best job anyone could have done under the same circumstances.
I just wanted to say that I'd agree with what Neil said above. I don't think it could have been approached any differently or better and was done so sensitively yet cautiously.
I think what this does highlight and is something that's worth remembering is that just because someone posts regularly does not mean that you know them. Don't get me wrong, this fanclub/forum has created some lifelong friendships and relationships for many of us, but it's easy to forget that we've actually not even met so many people here...it's easy to get used to seeing someone's user-name and reading their posts but that is no indication at all to the person behind them.
That's not to say we should all be suspicious of those we've not met here but perhaps we need to "keep it real" a little more
I also wanted to add, that whilst we do often start to feel we 'know' people who post on the forum regularly, I would have expected this to have been the same case for AJ getting to know the regular posters as 'people' rather than as their usernames and avatars, and so whilst it is one dispicable thing trying to 'con' a group of trusting people, it is several steps further doing so to people who would be considered 'friends'. Very sad indeed - for all involved.
But, well done to those who flagged issues and to the MLUKFC team for their actions and thorough investigation (in particular whoever managed to find that laptop thread on the other forum!).
I think the site and mods have behaved in an exemplary way, i applaud you.
I will be honest and say did not believe him, it just didn't add up.
I am disgusted that anyone can stoop so low as to feign illness for personal financial gain !
My family has been affected by cancer and continues to be, it beggars belief an individual can be such a f^cking tw^t !
I have made great friends on here, i know that 99% of people are genuine and honest and i cherish that. One f^cking dickhead will not spoil that, lets hope that he never really does have to deal with cancer !
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 23:46
So funny this is all being found out and discussed on his "birthday", though he is probably lying about that too.
~Helen~
01 Aug 2010, 23:47
I think the site and mods have behaved in an exemplary way, i applaud you.
I will be honest and say did not believe him, it just didn't add up.
I am disgusted that anyone can stoop so low as to feign illness for personal financial gain !
My family has been affected by cancer and continues to be, it beggars belief an individual can be such a f^cking tw^t !
I have made great friends on here, i know that 99% of people are genuine and honest and i cherish that. One f^cking dickhead will not spoil that, lets hope that he never really does have to deal with cancer !
I don't normally do this but will make an exception in this case - couldn't agree more, on all issues. Well said (despite necessity for ^signs ;-))
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 23:49
...lets hope that he never really does have to deal with cancer !
I'm not so sure that's very high up on my list of hopes.
I just feel so stupid right now :(
Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.
Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki
AndrewG
01 Aug 2010, 23:59
I just feel so stupid and gullable right now :(
Don't Vicki!!!
You're one of the nicest people I know. Just because some rat does this you shouldn't feel and think any less of yourself. He had most of us going here. And he was certainly playing his way into becoming part of the gang it seems, posting in the off topic threads, the shout wall, etc. etc. Without that evidence from Pbnation there would be very little to back up any suspicions some may have had.
I just feel so stupid right now :(
Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.
Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki
*hugz*
Don't Vicki!!!
You're one of the nicest people I know. Just because some rat does this you shouldn't feel and think any less of yourself. He had most of us going here. And he was certainly playing his way into becoming part of the gang it seems, posting in the off topic threads, the shout wall, etc. etc. Without that evidence from Pbnation there would be very little to back up any suspicions some may have had.
Thanks Andrew. I really appreciate it :wink: You're very nice too.
I honestly felt sorry for him and sent him a little bit to help with the concert ticket for MI :oops:
I'm just glad that I saw this thread and the posts on Pbnation before it went any further.
Monstro
02 Aug 2010, 00:11
I just feel so stupid right now :(
Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.
Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki
Bet we all wish we could have a quid/buck for everytime we've been taken in, I know I would.
Next in line with a hug when you're done with Dave!!!
The Flying Mouse
02 Aug 2010, 00:11
I just feel so stupid and gullable right now :(
:twisted: You shouldn't Vicki.
It's the nice people, the kind people, the generous people, that make the world a good place to be.
The world would be a much darker place without random acts of kindness.
The thing that makes this kind of scam so succesful is that it takes (IMHO) a seriously sick and deranged mind to even contemplate pretending to have cancer to defraud people.
A lot of decent folk would read his post and take what he said at face value because they simply can't comprehend a state of mind so sick as to lie about having cancer.
That is not gullability.
I think one of the reasons this investigation was so thorough was that I don't believe any of the mod team wanted this to be true.
It is not a nice feeling that this person was a member of our forum.
The biggest victim in all of this, I feel, is the next poor sod who is in genuine need and goes unaided because this con man has made the world the much more cynical.
*hugz*
Thanks Dave
*hugz*
AndrewG
02 Aug 2010, 00:16
This boy needs to read "The boy who cried wolf" before being allowed online again. Failing that has any effect placing him behind bars would be fine with me.
The liar will lie once, twice, and then perish when he tells the truth.
Bet we all wish we could have a quid/buck for everytime we've been taken in, I know I would.
Next in line with a hug when you're done with Dave!!!
Thanks. Yes you're next :wink:
:twisted: You shouldn't Vicki.
It's the nice people, the kind people, the generous people, that make the world a good place to be.
The world would be a much darker place without random acts of kindness.
Thanks Mouse. That's how I feel too.
The thing that makes this kind of scam so succesful is that it takes (IMHO) a seriously sick and deranged mind to even contemplate pretending to have cancer to defraud people.
A lot of decent folk would read his post and take what he said at face value because they simply can't comprehend a state of mind so sick as to lie about having cancer.
That is not gullability.
I think one of the reasons this investigation was so thorough was that I don't believe any of the mod team wanted this to be true.
It is not a nice feeling that this person was a member of our forum.
The biggest victim in all of this, I feel, is the next poor sod who is in genuine need and goes unaided because this con man has made the world the much more cynical.
Exactly. It was devastating watching my Dad die of cancer, and I still can't believe someone would lie about having the disease :(
Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?
Just a suggestion.
~Helen~
02 Aug 2010, 00:37
I just feel so stupid right now :(
Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.
Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki
Not gullible, kind-hearted and caring. And it's a nice trait not a bad one that you are trusting enough not to assume anyone who comes along with a sorrow story isn't having you on - like many of us did (and let's face it, it's not a nice world to be in where you can't believe that kind of story until you have some evidence ... even then, some of us may still be too skeptical to believe).
Bet we all wish we could have a quid/buck for everytime we've been taken in, I know I would.
Ha yeah I second that.
Vicki sorry to hear how this has affected you, but certainly don't blame yourself for someone else's actions!
~Helen~
02 Aug 2010, 00:39
On the other hand reading a certain thread on another mentioned forum reveals his home address :sherlock:
What sort of clot provides his home address to people he's scamming? :roll:
duke knooby
02 Aug 2010, 00:42
like i said before, theres 3 sides to every story... on this occasion, we appear to have a ~~~~wit, kind and caring people, and a great mod team
Evil One
02 Aug 2010, 00:44
Next in line with a hug when you're done with Dave!!!
You want a hug from Dave too? :bleh:
~Helen~
02 Aug 2010, 00:47
Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?
Just a suggestion.
This has its logical side, but I'm sure there have been a few occasions in the past where people have been doing some sponsored event and advertised their sponsorship site here. So maybe it'd need further clarification in a no asking for money to be transferred directly to yourself kind of way. :shrug: I don't know.
The Flying Mouse
02 Aug 2010, 00:48
:
The biggest victim in all of this, I feel, is the next poor sod who is in genuine need and goes unaided because this con man has made the world the much more cynical.
Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?
Just a suggestion.
:twisted: I rest my case.
It's never been something we have encouraged , but we have in the past (if I recall) let people have threads concerning sponsored events they are taking part in.
I think we've even stickied those threads for a week or so.
It's not something we've really had a problem with.
Also consider that this guy never actually asked for money.
He asked for advice (hey guys, what can I do), but it was pretty obvious what he wanted.
Then when he PM'd people who offered help, he did not PM them asking them for money (as I understand) rather he was asking "so what are you doing to help me?".
We can ban people from asking for money (and this guy wouldn't even technically come under that category), but we can't exactly ban people for being generous to somebody they think is in need.
It's something for the staff to think on.
Monstro
02 Aug 2010, 00:50
Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?
Just a suggestion.
Taken under advisement
What sort of clot provides his home address to people he's scamming? :roll:
He's not that clever....
'Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive''...
You want a hug from Dave too? :bleh:
Sorry m8, didn't realise I was pushing in, please go first lol
Evil One
02 Aug 2010, 00:59
Sorry m8, didn't realise I was pushing in, please go first lol
I'll go in the middle and be a human contraceptive! :barf:
Pudding
02 Aug 2010, 01:03
I shared my suspicions of this joker to the mod(s) . Seems once again the Proof was with the Pudding ;)
roomster
02 Aug 2010, 01:07
I just feel so stupid right now :(
Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.
I was also fooled by the scam... :(
So you're not alone ;-)
You want a hug from Dave too? :bleh:
Everyone should want a hug from Dave....why not? :shock:
I just feel so stupid right now :(
Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.
Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki
Don't feel stupid Vicki, just because you were nice enough to offer help to him, and he took advantage of that generosity. I think everyone at some time gets taken in by people like that. Some people can be very convincing when pulling on our heart strings.
Carole
allrevvedup
02 Aug 2010, 01:13
i'm really sorry that people were hurt and affected by this, so called, man who decided to use an absolutely horrendous disease simply to be popular and to take people's money.
the mods had a long discussion as to what should be done and in particular monstro, r, rj and Neil were in contact with this, so called, man trying to find out if this was genuine or a scam.
unfortunately it turned out to be a scam. there are genuine causes that need our help but the likes of this leaves a bad taste in the mouth and will, no doubt, make people a little hesitant when a donation is badly needed next time to a group.
what's worse is this, so called man, is on facebook boasting that he's been banned from here. karma comes around to punish bad people so i'm of the belief it will happen to this, so called, man
the mods had a long discussion as to what should be done and in particular monstro, r, rj and Neil were in contact with this, so called, man trying to find out if this was genuine or a scam.
Thats why the MLUKFC Mod team is the best MOD team on the internet.
Bubbles
02 Aug 2010, 01:20
The biggest victim in all of this, I feel, is the next poor sod who is in genuine need and goes unaided because this con man has made the world the much more cynical.
indeed :|
and regarding that:
Do you think their should be a rule instated about this money thing? Maybe something along the lines of "no asking other users for money" or something?
Just a suggestion.
I think there is no need for that. I'd say we should all learn from that story to be more critical and wait until the mods have figured out a way to reassure it's genuine and all is fine.
Things like that do not happen every second week after all, so adding another rule there is not necerssary if you ask me.
And also, adding that rule would make it even harder for the "next poor sod" neil mentioned to get help.
oh, and yes, you mods did a great job on that :)
Evil One
02 Aug 2010, 01:22
Just out of interest, what is the policy on the mods/admins reading everyones personal messages? It could have turned out that this tosser had been begging those taken in for money via PM. Then again there is the issue of privacy to consider. I assume it's possible for someone to monitor all messages sent from/to a certain member, but would it ever be done?:shrug:
Pudding
02 Aug 2010, 01:25
i'm really sorry that people were hurt and affected by this, so called, man who decided to use an absolutely horrendous disease simply to be popular and to take people's money.
As Caryl rightfully pointed out earlier, anyone who's known someone battling cancer, knows that they get on with the fight and don't broadcast it to gain sympathy or financial help.
I don't normally do this but will make an exception in this case - couldn't agree more, on all issues. Well said (despite necessity for ^signs ;-))
LOL..I wish the word ~~~~ing ~~~~ could be used in full flow for the piece of work that has took the piss out of the genuine people on here.
I just feel so stupid right now :(
Sometimes I'm too gullable ... but I should have known better.
Thanks for taking care of this all of the mods did a great job.
Vicki
Aww Vicki, no, you were not stupid, gullible yes, but so have i been in the past on more than one occasion. Trusted someone then got screwed !
Please don't beat yourself up, you have a kind heart and that is a good quality to have.
I line up to give you a hug, who's next ? ;)
Pudding
02 Aug 2010, 01:31
I wish the word ~~~~ing ~~~~ could be used in full flow
Does FUKKING TW@T work for you?
The Flying Mouse
02 Aug 2010, 01:33
Does FUKKING TW@T work for you?
:twisted: technically, there is already a "t" in "@", so you don't need the t on the end, but I can deal with that :yep:
As Caryl rightfully pointed out earlier, anyone who's known someone battling cancer, knows that they get on with the fight and don't broadcast it to gain sympathy or financial help.
This is true.
Does FUKKING TW@T work for you?
LMFAO Absof%ckinglootley !
MeatGrl1
02 Aug 2010, 01:36
I am and was not in any position to donate and neither would I of offered to someone whom I've not only never met but on-line period. I buy every pin almost to support this cause and it makes me feel so sick and angry that someone would use this disease as a profit for their own gain.
As someone said earlier it is a massive slap in the face to those who are either going through it or has had it and battled it, someone in my family has had breast cancer and is now clear but it makes me angry realising this was a ploy to get a free ticket and what's worse people fell for it.
I will say that when Meat did the Newcastle charity event which was for cancer charities. Myself and my hubby raised £2000 given by members from here and .net and our own donation, this was a huge amount and we felt very privileged to be trusted with this money. Money i might add that was sent via personal cheques to myself, my paypal account and in cash.
Meat matched that money, which meant because of fans and Meat cancer charities got £4000. These charities were very grateful and do great work with the money raised.
Pudding
02 Aug 2010, 01:44
:twisted: technically, there is already a "t" in "@", so you don't need the t on the end, but I can deal with that :yep:
I'm using the a in the @ symbol and not the sound of the symbol itself, because that would be text speak, like when people mispell mate for m8 or your for ur etc. Text speak pisses me off.
MeatGrl1
02 Aug 2010, 01:46
Text speak pisses me off.
I agree :shock: :yep: !!
I'm using the a in the @ symbol and not the sound of the symbol itself, because that would be text speak, like when people mispell mate for m8 or your for ur etc. Text speak pisses me off.
I am pleased i am not the only one who hates text speak !
The Flying Mouse
02 Aug 2010, 01:46
I'm using the a in the @ symbol and not the sound of the symbol itself, because that would be text speak, like when people mispell mate for m8 or your for ur etc. Text speak pisses me off.
:twisted: k, rit u r
:p
As Caryl rightfully pointed out earlier, anyone who's known someone battling cancer, knows that they get on with the fight and don't broadcast it to gain sympathy or financial help.
Yes, I think people who have genuinely been affected by it only speak of it publicly to help, support or console others .. not to elicit sympathy for themselves. Playing the card on a website dedicated to a man whose mother died of the disease, and who so often supports fundraising for cancer research, disgusts me.
Something else we agree on .. I abhor text-tawk too ;)
Caryl
Not gullible, kind-hearted and caring. And it's a nice trait not a bad one that you are trusting enough not to assume anyone who comes along with a sorrow story isn't having you on - like many of us did (and let's face it, it's not a nice world to be in where you can't believe that kind of story until you have some evidence ... even then, some of us may still be too skeptical to believe).
Ha yeah I second that.
Vicki sorry to hear how this has affected you, but certainly don't blame yourself for someone else's actions!
Thanks Helen .. I really appreciate it :wink:
I was also fooled by the scam... :(
So you're not alone ;-)
I'm sorry to hear that roomster :(
I guess it would explain to everybody who knows that I am generous to a fault why I never even touched any of this with a ten foot pole...although should the mod squad here have come to a conclusion that the claim is genuine I would quietly and gladly part with what you would call a few quid...but with so many scams around...hard to believe anything anymore...
Don't feel stupid Vicki, just because you were nice enough to offer help to him, and he took advantage of that generosity. I think everyone at some time gets taken in by people like that. Some people can be very convincing when pulling on our heart strings.
Carole
Thanks Carole.
Aww Vicki, no, you were not stupid, gullible yes, but so have i been in the past on more than one occasion. Trusted someone then got screwed !
Please don't beat yourself up, you have a kind heart and that is a good quality to have.
I line up to give you a hug, who's next ? ;)
Thanks Chelle :wink:
but with so many scams around...hard to believe anything anymore...
And that's the sad thing :(
And that's the sad thing :(
Exactly...too many girls/boys crying wolf...and people really needing help get lost in a shuffle...
OH MY GOSH! This is horrible -- i feel so duped.. i am thankful i did not send him money, but i sent him prayers and positive thoughts. I know this may sound weird, but when found this site (through Vicki and Suzieq) i was so happy to find a Meat Loaf fan site... i felt like family coming on here... to have this happen really saddens me. I am a moron who joined the "other" fan site,:oops: (can someone tell me how i can "unjoin" that site?) i was thinking could one have too many Meat Loaf fan sites? :) I now know the answer is yes one can.. Thank you MLUKFC Mods and Keepers for keeping this site safe. I am so sorry for all those who sent money to help him. I am going to Dallas and will be happy to take a paint ball gun with me! :twisted::evil::twisted::evil:
Couch Potato
02 Aug 2010, 03:02
Its sick Ive lost 3 close family members to the Big C, and my Mum and her sister are also putting in their fight against Cancer, and the person deserve to be punished by the law for what they did.
I also had suspicions when they said they sang with the band, come on, everyone must have known that was bull. I honestly did believe that the person had been diagnosed with the big c, but would not make a donation without a site being set up etc. I am disgusted, using an internet forum to try and scam people.
Sick
No one should feel silly or bad for donating, you all believed the person to be genuine, and it shows that you’re good hearted and will help anyone in time of needs.
Its sad, really is sad that there is people out there like this
OH MY GOSH! This is horrible -- i feel so duped.. i am thankful i did not send him money, but i sent him prayers and positive thoughts. I know this may sound weird, but when found this site (through Vicki and Suzieq) i was so happy to find a Meat Loaf fan site... i felt like family coming on here... to have this happen really saddens me. I am a moron who joined the "other" fan site,:oops: (can someone tell me how i can "unjoin" that site?) i was thinking could one have too many Meat Loaf fan sites? :) I now know the answer is yes one can.. Thank you MLUKFC Mods and Keepers for keeping this site safe. I am so sorry for all those who sent money to help him. I am going to Dallas and will be happy to take a paint ball gun with me! :twisted::evil::twisted::evil:
I'm sorry you feel duped too Megan :(
You're definitely not a moron .... unfortunately I still haven't figured out how to "unjoin" that other site. And I'm glad I'll be seeing you in Dallas !
Its sick and the person deserve to be punished by the law for what they did.
I also had suspicions when they said they sang with the band, come on, everyone must have known that was bull. I honestly did believe that the person had been diagnosed with the big c, but would not make a donation without a site being set up etc. I am disgusted, using an internet forum to try and scam people.
Sick
No one should feel silly or bad for donating, you all believed the person to be genuine, and it shows that you’re good hearted and will help anyone in time of needs.
I absolutely agree. Unfortunately I got suckered into this story about singing with the band ... I was actually happy for him :roll: But thank you for your kind words.
Exactly...too many girls/boys crying wolf...and people really needing help get lost in a shuffle...
:(
Couch Potato
02 Aug 2010, 03:13
It kind of really makes me angry when Ive lost 3 family members to big C and my Mum and Auntie are both putting up a fight against it, and you have morons like that leeching of people like my mum who wont pee and moan about the big C, and you get morons like that scamming innocent good hearted people, makes me sick.
Megan...I'm sorry that we were mislead. I'm still trying to find a way to unjoin and unless we email AJ to unjoin, that is the only way. I've deleted my single post from that site. As I do not want any association to this guy. In fact, I almost didn't join this alternative site, because I'm already on a forum with the single campaign, and YES you can have to many Meat Loaf homes. This site is enough when Meat is active, it often takes a lot of time to play catch up.
Vicki...I have a hug lined up for you, see you in Orlando.
Megan...I'm sorry that we were mislead. I'm still trying to find a way to unjoin and unless we email AJ to unjoin, that is the only way. I've deleted my single post from that site. As I do not want any association to this guy. In fact, I almost didn't join this alternative site, because I'm already on a forum with the single campaign, and YES you can have to many Meat Loaf homes. This site is enough when Meat is active, it often takes a lot of time to play catch up.
Vicki...I have a hug lined up for you, see you in Orlando.
Thanks Suzie :wink: I'm looking forward to seeing you in Orlando.
And I'm truly sorry that I told you about that other forum Megan :oops:
Aside from emailing AJ (which I absolutely refuse to do), I did a couple of things :
(1). Changed my email address to one that I never use
(2). Changed my personal settings on there so that no one (including him) could contact me via email.
(3). Changed my status so that I would be hidden if I ever go back online.
If anyone else has any suggestions, please let us know.
Thank you.
Pudding
02 Aug 2010, 03:33
...but with so many scams around...hard to believe anything anymore...
My general rule of thumb is: "If it seems too good to be true then it probably is" and "donate to the actual charity and not to the individual"
I don't think he will pursue any one of us individually...scam artists work fast and in bulk...to not get caught and make the big profit...I think none of us was individually targeted...it is seeing how we're really all very close here, we were rather targeted as a group...
My general rule of thumb is: "If it seems too good to be true then it probably is" and "donate to the actual charity and not to the individual"
I agree...I actually would have done something if it was proven here that the person is in need...but I did held off until forum approved this...knowing R. and mod team...they wouldn't have rested until they would have figured out what is going here in this case and I trust them...
fred2010
02 Aug 2010, 03:40
I have TPS.....can someone please help
My general rule of thumb is: "If it seems too good to be true then it probably is" and "donate to the actual charity and not to the individual"
Sounds like good advice to me Pud :wink:
"And I'm truly sorry that I told you about that other forum Megan :oops: " quote from Vicki.. some how i deleted the box LOL
OH NO Vicki.. you told me about this one!! :) the MLUKFC one :) I am very thankful to you and Suzieq about that!! :cheer:
i did what you did too, but i couldn't figure out how to delete but i don't care.. i'm not going back!
Pudding
02 Aug 2010, 03:46
I have TPS.....can someone please help
I have an ingrowing toenail and $50,000 should just about cover it with a nice recuperation holiday in the Seychelles :))
I have TPS.....can someone please help
You need to get banned as well...
I have an ingrowing toenail and $50,000 should just about cover it with a nice recuperation holiday in the Seychelles :))
I gave to the ITS charity (ITS ~ Ingrown Toenail Society) as a whole last week. I advise you to fill out a few forms in triplicate and your request for funds will be processed in the order in which it was received. :mrgreen:
fred2010
02 Aug 2010, 04:08
TPS = Tiny Penis Syndrome
disappointed that nobody asked:(
TPS = Tiny Penis Syndrome
disappointed that nobody asked:(
LOL i thought about it.... and have been thinking what it could be...
BTW so sorry try the little blue pill :lmao:
OH NO Vicki.. you told me about this one!! :) the MLUKFC one :) I am very thankful to you and Suzieq about that!! :cheer:
Excellent :))
i did what you did too, but i couldn't figure out how to delete but i don't care.. i'm not going back!
Good :-) I'm not going back either !
TPS = Tiny Penis Syndrome
disappointed that nobody asked:(
i suppose all were aware what it was due to whom you are and as we've found in the case of he who friends and i behind the scenes dubbed "Cancer boy" ... most on site here are too polite to call a spade a ... well... d*ck ... lol ... ;) ... and of course... f2010 ... i jest with ye ...
thanks to the mods for protecting Meat's UK forum fans ... and curses to "Cancer Boy" ... may he never on personal basis have to deal with the big C ... i know he won't on his own being need to go through what my friend's late sister did .. she in her forties... finds she has cancer in both breasts and needs them removed... the radiation ... losing her hair ... the illness... clean bill for 5 years... back it comes attacking liver... lung... everything it can "think" to attach itself to ... and enough was enough for her... and my childhood friend of 50 plus years sits and watches her sister die ... in her home... day by day ... bit by bit... pain by pain ... until it runs course and she's gone ... my friend lost her dad via lung cancer when she was 21... she watched him die bit by bit... she lost her brother to brain cancer one year earlier... watching her at once time very active brother turn into a vegetative state and leave the world... she lost her mother to cancer a couple years back as well ... and my dear friend... crosses everything possible at each check up... wondering... could this be the day the doctor says it ? ... seems unlikely she'll escape ...
so yeah... bite me Cancer Boy... bite us all ! ...
bastid... bah ...
thanks for letting me vent meatie peeps and thanks again mods ... xo
I'm sorry you feel duped too Megan :(
You're definitely not a moron .... unfortunately I still haven't figured out how to "unjoin" that other site. And I'm glad I'll be seeing you in Dallas !
I absolutely agree. Unfortunately I got suckered into this story about singing with the band ... I was actually happy for him :roll: But thank you for your kind words.
I must admit, that I was suckered in by that too, and also was happy for him. I even felt bad when I saw that you guys had put in and bought his ticket for him that I hadn't offered myself. I'll have a hug for you too Vicki when I see you in Dallas. I don't think I joined that other site.
Carole
Mark and AJ really get along :(
AndrewG
02 Aug 2010, 09:37
Can't believe some people are still believing a word he says. Perhaps some friends should inform some certain former band members. :confused:
Ok so this guy is a qualified computer technician, a Meat Loaf tribute act, plays the guitar, plays the drums, plays the piano, performs with the NLE, has cancer, has an unlimited supply of Gateway laptops, likes to paintball and is only 20 years old. If he had informed me about that situation I'm not so sure I would have been as sympathetic. Hmmm....
http://media.mlxxfc.net/pinocchio1.gif
"Tell the truth god damn it!"
I think hes stepping over the line making us look like the bad guys to Kasim and Mark.
Is the world ending? Caue the antichrist is among us :evil:
AndrewG
02 Aug 2010, 11:02
I think hes stepping over the line making us look like the bad guys to Kasim and Mark.
He'll keep lying and lying and lying, that's what he has been doing since yesterday too. If he was so honest he would be more occupied with clearing his name or making sure people who helped him wouldn't think any less of him but he isn't so he is ~~~~ing lying ~~~~~~~.
Before I was concerned with paying to not see him suffer but now I would pay to see him suffer.
Sarahdk23
02 Aug 2010, 11:43
I have written a message to both Mark and Kasim explaining the situation.
I hope they will believe me rather than him!
AndrewG
02 Aug 2010, 12:02
I have written a message to both Mark and Kasim explaining the situation.
I hope they will believe me rather than him!
Thanks, I'm sure they will coming from you. :D
Sarahdk23
02 Aug 2010, 12:22
Thanks Andrew :-)
Evil One
02 Aug 2010, 13:22
I wonder if it's cancer for everything or if he operates on some form of sliding scale of illnesses? If so then he's not left himself much room for maneuver when he wants to con someone out of a car or a house. :shrug:
wolfy35
02 Aug 2010, 13:38
I have stayed silent on this one because the minute I saw his first post about the tickets/cancer etc it all just seemed wrong and I wanted to take the long view before deciding either way, However time and other events have allowed me the insight to make a judgement.
He probably does not have cancer but he is a cancer on society.
To use such a horrible thing as cancer as a way to scam people out of money is beyond contempt and warrants to be punished as fully as all laws allow. He appears to truly be scum.
unbekannt
02 Aug 2010, 14:04
WTF is going on on Facebook?! :shock: Good that Mark and Kasim were sent a message telling the truth…
The Mod team have already been in touch with both Kasim and Mark early this morning.
WTF is going on on Facebook?! :shock: Good that Mark and Kasim were sent a message telling the truth…
I must admit, that I was suckered in by that too, and also was happy for him. I even felt bad when I saw that you guys had put in and bought his ticket for him that I hadn't offered myself. I'll have a hug for you too Vicki when I see you in Dallas. I don't think I joined that other site.
Carole
Thanks Carole. I'm really looking foward to meeting you in Dallas.
Cristina
02 Aug 2010, 16:50
this kind of episodes let the "hate" part make sense in my love/hate relationship with the internet. About that so-called man, I believe that Karma is waiting for him around the corner...
Don't feel stupid Vicki, just because you were nice enough to offer help to him, and he took advantage of that generosity. I think everyone at some time gets taken in by people like that. Some people can be very convincing when pulling on our heart strings.
Carole
Yeah Vicki, you are one of the nicest, kindest people on here. I lost my grandad a few years back to cancer, so I am utterly discusted that this guy has done this, what a terrible, horrible thing to take advantage of peoples good nature. Pathetic I think.
RadioMaster
02 Aug 2010, 18:11
although the whole story is horrible, let's try not to sink to his level here. I know it's impossible not being bothered by this, but try to keep personal attacks to a reasonalbe amount. Otherwise he'd actually have a point about being harrassed on the forum.
We should all learn from this, but we shouldnt let it ruin our (cyber-) life and friendships made through this site.
I am pleased that the forum mods have dealt with this situation, it could have been much worse, were it not for the excellent work that they have done.
So thank you once again.
AndrewG
02 Aug 2010, 18:22
although the whole story is horrible, let's try not to sink to his level here. I know it's impossible not being bothered by this, but try to keep personal attacks to a reasonalbe amount. Otherwise he'd actually have a point about being harrassed on the forum.
We should all learn from this, but we shouldnt let it ruin our (cyber-) life and friendships made through this site.
Though you have a point here I doubt pretty much any of us here could be accused of sinking to his level. Harrassing / bullying / making fun of, call it what you will is completely different than outright fraud.
wolfy35
02 Aug 2010, 18:29
:twisted: I rest my case.
It's never been something we have encouraged , but we have in the past (if I recall) let people have threads concerning sponsored events they are taking part in.
I think we've even stickied those threads for a week or so.
It's not something we've really had a problem with.
.
I hope that this wont ever stop things like genuine fundraisers taking part in events or caring people taking part in these events or notifying us on here if they are involved.
I think the considered position should be that before any fundraising activity is allowed to be posted the person involved should notify a mod by IM and provide something to show it is genuine, something that anyone who is honest wont have a problem with. I accept that occasionally scammers would do things like make up fake letters etc on their computers but these can easily be checked with something as simple as a phone call or email to the organisation the money is being raised for because they all keep records of any genuine activity on their behalf.
I believe that Meat himself would not wish incidents like this to affect any genuine organisation or person
AndrewG
02 Aug 2010, 18:33
Didn't Mear use a pink / sponsored cancer research guitar at the actual concert this dude went to? Talk about irony.
Didn't Mear use a pink / sponsored cancer research guitar at the actual concert this dude went to? Talk about irony.
Perhaps Meat was trying to give him guilt :p
Didn't Mear use a pink / sponsored cancer research guitar at the actual concert this dude went to? Talk about irony.
He has a Think Pink amp on stage certainly. It's fairly well known, certainly amongst Meat fans, that Meat frequently sponsors cancer charities (particularly in the light of his mother's illness). Mouse suggested AJ may have been angling for a VIP package of sorts, (something which leapt from the page to me also) and the scam may have been so designed to attract Meat's attention/support.
He clearly did meet and talk with Paul. If Meat had seen anything on here before the concert, or was apprised of the tale by Paul, I can imagine Meat having nothing but concern and sympathy. He has a kind heart and always responds caringly to people who have disability or serious illness. I've seen that so often; saw it at Hershey this summer.
Caryl
Meat did at some shows have a Think Pink guitar i saw it at least one of the shows.
Yea at Hershey i remember Meat taking a lot of time and care with a person at the M&G who was in a wheelchair, a very nice woman whose name escapes me.
Yea at Hershey i remember Meat taking a lot of time and care with a person at the M&G who was in a wheelchair, a very nice woman whose name escapes me.
Yes .. and I was particularly thinking of how sweet he was with .. was it Laurence? Came with the American guy who was his carer I think.
Caryl
Yes we have to be careful but not let ourselves become jaded. As I recall Vee and how the Meat Loaf community gave to her and grieved with her.
Yeah Vicki, you are one of the nicest, kindest people on here. I lost my grandad a few years back to cancer, so I am utterly discusted that this guy has done this, what a terrible, horrible thing to take advantage of peoples good nature. Pathetic I think.
Thanks Mel :wink: And yes, it's very pathetic :(
I am pleased that the forum mods have dealt with this situation, it could have been much worse, were it not for the excellent work that they have done.
So thank you once again.
I second that .. thank you.
Meat did at some shows have a Think Pink guitar i saw it at least one of the shows.
Yes he did .... at all of the shows I saw :-)
Yea at Hershey i remember Meat taking a lot of time and care with a person at the M&G who was in a wheelchair, a very nice woman whose name escapes me.
Yes, I remember that. She was a very sweet woman who sat behind me during the show :-)
Just out of interest, what is the policy on the mods/admins reading everyones personal messages? It could have turned out that this tosser had been begging those taken in for money via PM. Then again there is the issue of privacy to consider. I assume it's possible for someone to monitor all messages sent from/to a certain member, but would it ever be done?:shrug:vBulletin does not have an interface to monitor and/or access private messages. What the the admin control panel allows you to see is the number of stored private messages per user.
However, as I have physical access to the database where all content is stored, I can very well access those messages using a proper set of queries. But in this particular case it's way more efficient to reset the user's password, log in and simply browse the messages.
vBulletin does not have an interface to monitor and/or access private messages. What the the admin control panel allows you to see is the number of stored private messages per user.
However, as I have physical access to the database where all content is stored, I can very well access those messages using a proper set of queries. But in this particular case it's way more efficient to reset the user's password, log in and simply browse the messages.
Very interesting .. thanks R.
Do you have any ideas / or suggestions of how I can delete my membership
on his forum without having to actually contact him :??: It's a free forum developed using http://www.phpbb3now.com/
The reason I'm asking is that he sent me a PM on there asking why I deleted him from my friends list on FB. I didn't reply to his PM there, and don't want to have any more contact with him.
Thanks, Vicki
unbekannt
03 Aug 2010, 01:38
I'm afraid you can't delete it yourself, only administrators can delete member accounts.
I'm afraid you can't delete it yourself, only administrators can delete member accounts.
Oh ok, thanks :wink:
Pudding
03 Aug 2010, 03:58
However, as I have physical access to the database where all content is stored, I can very well access those messages using a proper set of queries. But in this particular case it's way more efficient to reset the user's password, log in and simply browse the messages.
Interesting. So you'd be able to find out who pesters Meat Loaf the most with gibberish PM's then?. I'd love to see that top 10 list :lmao:
AndrewG
03 Aug 2010, 09:05
Interesting. So you'd be able to find out who pesters Meat Loaf the most with gibberish PM's then?. I'd love to see that top 10 list :lmao:
I've often wondered if he gets the javascript pop up too when he logs on. It must be as irritating as hell if he does!
MeatGrl1
03 Aug 2010, 09:38
I doubt he does somehow...
Yes .. and I was particularly thinking of how sweet he was with .. was it Laurence? Came with the American guy who was his carer I think.
Caryl
Ahh yes, Meat was so patient and sweet, was lovely to see:))
Ahh yes, Meat was so patient and sweet, was lovely to see:))
yes it was ... for me... the meet is part of the show... part of the whole experience... i so enjoy watching Meat interact with the fans and there was quite an assortment to observe this time... as has been mentioned, the lady in the wheelchair (who sat next to me at the show and had a great time rockin' out ! ... lol... i told her after how much fun she was to sit beside ... she having so much fun! ) ... and Laurence ... the "special needs" man ... and then there were Karen's two little girls ... not sure of their ages... Michelle, you'd know, i think ... about nine, ten... the older one maybe and the other about 7 ? ... watching the girls interact with Meat and vice versed put a smile on my face ... yeah ... i really think this was the bestest meet ever for me ...
yes it was ... for me... the meet is part of the show... part of the whole experience... i so enjoy watching Meat interact with the fans and there was quite an assortment to observe this time... as has been mentioned, the lady in the wheelchair (who sat next to me at the show and had a great time rockin' out ! ... lol... i told her after how much fun she was to sit beside ... she having so much fun! ) ... and Laurence ... the "special needs" man ... and then there were Karen's two little girls ... not sure of their ages... Michelle, you'd know, i think ... about nine, ten... the older one maybe and the other about 7 ? ... watching the girls interact with Meat and vice versed put a smile on my face ... yeah ... i really think this was the bestest meet ever for me ...
I was one of the first ones and, unfortunately, had to leave after
my picture. So I missed seeing Laurence and Meat's interaction with
Karen's little girls. But I agree with you tink ... I just love watching Meat
interacting with the other fans that haven't met him before, and this
was one of the best M&Gs for me too :-)
And I'm so glad you and the woman both had such a great time :))
Vicki
A Slice Of English
03 Aug 2010, 20:52
I was one of the first ones and, unfortunately, had to leave after
my picture. So I missed seeing Laurence and Meat's interaction with
Karen's little girls. But I agree with you tink ... I just love watching Meat
interacting with the other fans that haven't met him before, and this
was one of the best M&Gs for me too :-)
And I'm so glad you and the woman both had such a great time :))
Vicki
I giggled like a girl at some rubbish joke Meat made to try and set me at my ease when I met him at Broadlands in '08. The guy was a true gent and I found myself totally overwhelmed by his presence, despite his obvious desire to be easygoing with us. I was a dick and completely pathetic in my lack of response but I was starstruck, well and truly!!
fred2010
03 Aug 2010, 21:50
An example for the kind of scam mails I get
First, I must solicit your strictest confidence in this transaction. This is by virtue of its nature as being utterly confidential and 'top secret'. I am sure and have confidence of your ability and reliability to prosecute a transaction of this great magnitude involving a pending transaction requiring maximum confidence.
We are top official of the federal government contract review panel who are interested in importation of goods into our country with funds which are presently trapped in Nigeria. In order to commence this business we solicit your assistance to enable us transfers into your account the said trapped funds.
The source of this fund is as follows; after the death of our former president Alhaji Umaru Musa Yar"adua on the 5th may 2010,the government officials set up companies and awarded themselves contracts which were grossly over-invoiced in various ministries.
The present civilian government by Mr.Goodluck Jonathan as the new president and commander in-chief of the army forces set up a contract review panel and we have identified a lot of inflated contract funds which are presently floating in the central bank of Nigeria ready for payment.
However, by virtue of our position as civil servants and members of this panel, we cannot acquire this money in our names. I have therefore, been delegated as a matter of trust by my colleagues of the panel to look for an overseas partner into whose account we would transfer the sum of us$21,320,000.00(twenty one million, three hundred and twenty thousand us dollars). Hence we are writing you this letter. We have agreed to share the money thus; 1. 30% for the account owner 2. 60% for us (the officials) 3. 10% to be used in settling taxation and all local and foreign expenses. It is from the 60% that we wish to commence the importation business.
Please, note that this transaction is 100% safe and we hope to commence the transfer latest seven (7) banking days from the date of the receipt of the following information by Tel/fax; ~~~~~~~~~~,my private email address:(~~~~~~~~~) your company's signed, and stamped letterhead paper the above information will enable us write letters of claim and job description respectively. This way we will use your company's name to apply for payment and re-award the contract in your company's name.
We are looking forward to doing this business with you and solicit your confidentiality in this transaction. Please acknowledge the receipt of this letter using the above Tel/fax numbers and email address. I will send you detailed information of this pending project when i have heard from you.
Yours faithfully,
Dr Michael Usman
fred2010
03 Aug 2010, 21:52
by the way, the above is a copy and paste of a scam email i received and i post it for reasons of humor.....
just wanna make sure i don't get in trouble:angry:
AndrewG
03 Aug 2010, 21:52
Friend of AJ perhaps?
Sarahdk23
03 Aug 2010, 22:13
I get these scam emails costantly. And sadly some peope fall for it...
RadioMaster
03 Aug 2010, 22:41
by the way, the above is a copy and paste of a scam email i received and i post it for reasons of humor.....
just wanna make sure i don't get in trouble:angry:
Made it a little clearer this is actually a quote
AndrewG
03 Aug 2010, 22:50
I get these scam emails costantly. And sadly some peope fall for it...
I don't know. I think more than half of these things are just fishing out to see if it is a genuine email address they are sending to, if there is no bounce back they have an email address which they can potentially then use for other scams or perhaps sell in bulk load, so it is not necessarily that email itself which is the scam in such cases I believe.
I replied to one of these things once and said yup no problem give me the money, but you will most likely find all the contact details not to be working or invalid anyway. Good is that spam blockers will usually filter it really well these days. Gmail does a great job in particular in my opinion but you do sometimes find genuine emails end up in the spam box, very occasionally though.
it seems to me that in another month or so when the anger subsides about the scam, the name "AJ" will be used to censor bad words in posts :))
mariella
03 Aug 2010, 23:33
I had my doubts ever since I saw him post about his so-called misfortune, on every occasion he could ... glad the mods sorted this out!
I truly believe in helping ... but not in being taken for a ride!
However, I did see posts at facebook, from this concert he went to, saying ML was travelling with a tributeband ... so, he either made this posts himself or he may have deceived, the band at least!? (Internet! - you cannot tell who is posting what!)
... bad taste in mouth ...
Karma!!!!;)...that will get him!
fred2010
04 Aug 2010, 00:28
..
I giggled like a girl at some rubbish joke Meat made to try and set me at my ease when I met him at Broadlands in '08. The guy was a true gent and I found myself totally overwhelmed by his presence, despite his obvious desire to be easygoing with us. I was a dick and completely pathetic in my lack of response but I was starstruck, well and truly!!
Don't feel bad .. I still get tongue-tied when I try to talk to him :lol:
yes it was ... for me... the meet is part of the show... part of the whole experience... i so enjoy watching Meat interact with the fans and there was quite an assortment to observe this time... as has been mentioned, the lady in the wheelchair (who sat next to me at the show and had a great time rockin' out ! ... lol... i told her after how much fun she was to sit beside ... she having so much fun! ) ... and Laurence ... the "special needs" man ... and then there were Karen's two little girls ... not sure of their ages... Michelle, you'd know, i think ... about nine, ten... the older one maybe and the other about 7 ? ... watching the girls interact with Meat and vice versed put a smile on my face ... yeah ... i really think this was the bestest meet ever for me ...
Yea Meat was wonderful with Kaz's 2 girls, one aged 7 who said she was Meats biggest fan, Meat replied with mm, i don't think so i once met a fan who was 7ft tall ! Cracked me up ! LOL..The girls had a wonderful time and Meat made it special for them, he waved at them during the show as well which they thought was awesome ! As did Kaz, me and hubby !
Yea Meat was wonderful with Kaz's 2 girls, one aged 7 who said she was Meats biggest fan, Meat replied with mm, i don't think so i once met a fan who was 7ft tall ! Cracked me up ! LOL..The girls had a wonderful time and Meat made it special for them, he waved at them during the show as well which they thought was awesome ! As did Kaz, me and hubby !
That's excellent :))
I have a question that maybe R or one one of the Mods could answer for me.
Last night I logged on and saw meat_loaf2008 signed on.
So does that mean AJ can still sign on and read the forum even though he is
banned :??: Can he still read what we have posted here or send people private messages :??:
I don't mean it to sound like I'm paranoid .. I'm just curious.
Thanks
Vicki
I have a question that maybe R or one one of the Mods could answer for me.
Last night I logged on and saw meat_loaf2008 signed on.
So does that mean AJ can still sign on and read the forum even though he is
banned :??: Can he still read what we have posted here or send people private messages :??:
I don't mean it to sound like I'm paranoid .. I'm just curious.
Thanks
Vicki
When a user is banned, they can still log in to the forum form the home page. However, after they've entered their username and password all they get is an error message informing them of their ban, they can't interact on the forum in anyway. All they can do is read the open areas that anyone can read as a non-signed in guest.
I was a dick and completely pathetic in my lack of response but I was starstruck, well and truly!!
ohhh... don't say that... i love it when a fan is "starstruck" ... or very excited at meeting Meat... whether first time or 1,000th ! ... imo ... i repeat... IMO ... lol ... it shows one isn't jaded by it all ... lol ... i was pretty good this time round ? ... but then... yepper... hehehe... when i went to sit my knees got the wobbles... and brain screamed... "wtf did you just doooo ?" ... lol ... meaning no more than just standing next to 'Imself... and actually being able to put a couple words together... lol ... happiest couple minutes i've had in a very long time !!! ...
ohhh... don't say that... i love it when a fan is "starstruck" ... or very excited at meeting Meat... whether first time or 1,000th ! ... imo ... i repeat... IMO ... lol ... it shows one isn't jaded by it all ... lol ... i was pretty good this time round ? ... but then... yepper... hehehe... when i went to sit my knees got the wobbles... and brain screamed... "wtf did you just doooo ?" ... lol ... meaning no more than just standing next to 'Imself... and actually being able to put a couple words together... lol ... happiest couple minutes i've had in a very long time !!! ...
Ditto for me! My self evaluation concluded ...I was pretty good this time around...however the knees and brain definitely weren't working properly. And I almost cried this time. WTF ME? No matter how many conversations I have with myself, I can't seem to pull it together. I dork out everytime. But a happy dork!!!!!!
Suzieq
well guys, you're starting to scare me off from a M&G :lol:
When a user is banned, they can still log in to the forum form the home page. However, after they've entered their username and password all they get is an error message informing them of their ban, they can't interact on the forum in anyway. All they can do is read the open areas that anyone can read as a non-signed in guest.
It's worse, the only thing a banned user will see is the error message - no homepage, no non-interactive content, no nothing.
It's worse, the only thing a banned user will see is the error message - no homepage, no non-interactive content, no nothing.
Thank you :-)
But he can theoretically Wipe his browser history and be signed out of MLUKFC. In turn being able to view the forum as an un registered guest.
Dont think this thread is accessible to un registered folks though.
Ditto for me! My self evaluation concluded ...I was pretty good this time around...however the knees and brain definitely weren't working properly. And I almost cried this time. WTF ME? No matter how many conversations I have with myself, I can't seem to pull it together. I dork out everytime. But a happy dork!!!!!!
Suzieq
Aside from Boston :lol: I was better this time too :-)
I always have things I want to ask Meat, but by the time I get there, my mind usually goes blank so I just go with the flow and have fun :))
well guys, you're starting to scare me off from a M&G :lol:
Don't be scared Netty :lol:
Dont think this thread is accessible to un registered folks though.
Yes it is .. I just tried :wink: You can read the thread without signing in,
but can't post a reply.
Aside from Boston :lol: I was better this time too :-)
I always have things I want to ask Meat, but by the time I get there, my mind usually goes blank so I just go with the flow and have fun :))
Don't be scared Netty :lol:
:D yeah you're right, as i read these posts about the meetings and how nervous can be anybody at a M&G, i got a feeling that i'll be able to forget how to speak in english :lol: i think i'll have to write some notes to myself, just in case ;)
Dont think this thread is accessible to un registered folks though.It is.
Aside from Boston :lol: I was better this time too :-)
I always have things I want to ask Meat, but by the time I get there, my mind usually goes blank so I just go with the flow and have fun :))
Don't be scared Netty :lol:
Strangely i always have plenty to say, i was telling Kaz to stop being a sackless hoe, ( cos she was ) Meat said i have such a way with words, well thats one way to describe it;) LOL...
It is.
Well then he can read how pissed off people are at him for being a dick ! and that he is one twisted fukking tw@t ! Thanks pud for the idea of using @ as an a ! stella idea;) LOL..
Strangely i always have plenty to say, i was telling Kaz to stop being a sackless hoe, ( cos she was ) Meat said i have such a way with words, well thats one way to describe it;) LOL...
:lmao:
Strangely i always have plenty to say, i was telling Kaz to stop being a sackless hoe, ( cos she was ) Meat said i have such a way with words, well thats one way to describe it;) LOL...
Ha ha, you certainly do Michelle!!!! I was always in hysterics around you in England a couple of years ago.
Carole
Pudding
04 Aug 2010, 23:27
It's worse, the only thing a banned user will see is the error message - no homepage, no non-interactive content, no nothing.
I can confirm this :devil:
ohhh... don't say that... i love it when a fan is "starstruck" ... or very excited at meeting Meat... whether first time or 1,000th ! ... imo ... i repeat... IMO ... lol ... it shows one isn't jaded by it all ... lol ...
I know tink, I don't think we could ever get jaded by meeting Meat, no matter how many times we've met him.
Carole
Strangely i always have plenty to say, i was telling Kaz to stop being a sackless hoe, ( cos she was ) Meat said i have such a way with words, well thats one way to describe it;) LOL...
:lmao:
Couch Potato
05 Aug 2010, 02:18
i hope the sick feck reads this, your a parasite my freinds, and one day, you will get whats coming to you, what you deserve. I hope to god we hear about it as well
...i was telling Kaz to stop being a sackless hoe, ( cos she was )...
Well then he can read how pissed off people are at him for being a dick ! and that he is one twisted fukking tw@t !
I wish more than anything that you had an opinion-based newspaper column...your posts are just a joy to read!!!! :lol:
fred2010
05 Aug 2010, 19:23
who cares if he's reading? he's a cheat, a thief and a liar. they make songs about guys like that.
most of them don't end well
I wish more than anything that you had an opinion-based newspaper column...your posts are just a joy to read!!!! :lol:
:lol: PMPL !
CV would say- extensive use of vocabulary, specialist in colourful language and a spade is a tw@tting spade ! ;)
fred2010
06 Aug 2010, 03:57
I wish more than anything that you had an opinion-based newspaper column...your posts are just a joy to read!!!! :lol:
thank you
:lol: PMPL !
CV would say- extensive use of vocabulary, specialist in colourful language and a spade is a tw@tting spade ! ;)
It would be immense, 'Daily F*ckwittery by Michelle Hall'...love it!
It would be immense, 'Daily F*ckwittery by Michelle Hall'...love it!
shouldn't that be "Michelle H@ll" ? ... ;) ... lol ...
I would like for him to read all this, the low life.
It would be immense, 'Daily F*ckwittery by Michelle Hall'...love it!
PMPL, sending off cvs now;) LOL...
shouldn't that be "Michelle H@ll" ? ... ;) ... lol ...
:))
TheDoode
06 Aug 2010, 21:37
This mass of rectal related tissue pestered me for a ticket, too. Well, cash for a ticket. I think he sent somewhere in the region of 12 emails arguing his case. I sent one reply:
"Dude, there's more to life than Meat Loaf."
I suspected him from the get-go, but only because I've seen it happen/heard the same story so many times. Sorry to all who donated.
Doode. (this is most uncool)
Evil One
06 Aug 2010, 21:42
This mass of rectal related tissue pestered me for a ticket, too. Well, cash for a ticket. I think he sent somewhere in the region of 12 emails arguing his case.
I didn't receive any. I must be doing something right! :twisted:
RadioMaster
06 Aug 2010, 21:46
This mass of rectal related tissue pestered me for a ticket, too. Well, cash for a ticket. I think he sent somewhere in the region of 12 emails arguing his case. I sent one reply:
"Dude, there's more to life than Meat Loaf."
I suspected him from the get-go, but only because I've seen it happen/heard the same story so many times. Sorry to all who donated.
Doode. (this is most uncool)
I somehow feel the urge to rent the big lebowski now...
I didn't receive any. I must be doing something right! :twisted:
same. I wonder why he never asked me for anything. :sherlock:
Guess he thought I was to smart for that :))
daveake
06 Aug 2010, 22:04
I didn't receive any. I must be doing something right! :twisted:
Suddenly I no longer feel left-out :-)
Suddenly I no longer feel left-out :-)
So he left me, you, and E1 alone. Did AndrewG get contacted?
If he didn't he left the Insidious Foursome alone. Which, in a certain standpoint, was smart. We are Gods.
TheDoode
06 Aug 2010, 22:09
I think he only contacted those that he'd PM'd and tried to build up some kind of trust with.
So he left me, you, and E1 alone. Did AndrewG get contacted?
If he didn't he left the Insidious Foursome. Which, in a certain standpoint, was smart. We are to be avoided at all costs.
I've corrected that for you.
same. I wonder why he never asked me for anything. :sherlock:
Guess he thought I was to smart for that :))
No...too poor...or as British would say...skint...
The Flying Mouse
06 Aug 2010, 22:20
:twisted: It looks like he targeted people who had shown interest in helping on the thread that started all this off.
You don't have to be :sherlock: to see that.
The thread was locked but he already knew which forum members had said they were willing to halp financially.
:twisted: It looks like he targeted people who had shown interest in helping on the thread that started all this off.
You don't have to be :sherlock: to see that.
The thread was locked but he already knew which forum members had said they were willing to halp financially.
Exactly :wink:
daveake
06 Aug 2010, 22:26
:twisted: It looks like he targeted people who had shown interest in helping on the thread that started all this off.
Saved by my Spidey Sense then :-)
Is this a good time to mention that I am a Nigerian Princess?
Is this a good time to mention that I am a Nigerian Princess?
http://www.buddy-icons.info/img/smile/1620.gif
Monstro
06 Aug 2010, 23:59
this thread on pbnation gets better, he's not even good at it lol
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3439260
this thread on pbnation gets better, he's not even good at it lol
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3439260
lol. OMG Thats terrible... AJ Is in hot water now
I think he may well have been made aware of what's been posted on here, given his postings on FB .. eg:
YOU CAN TRY TO TEAR ME DOWN! BUT YOU CANT STOP ME! I AM STRONGER THAN YOU! ~~~~ ALL OF YOU WHO TRIED TO BRING ME DOWN AND ~~~~ ME OVER!
As AJ Hanson he also posts on the wall of another FB account registered to one Alexander James Hanson, co-incidentally also of Mankato, MN, where his bio includes the illuminating sentence:
"If i would discibe me in a word it would be AMAZING but people have there own choice to decide that."
Yes, I think many would consider his front amazing .. and also that we have made our decision. And as well as being a scammer of the nastiest type, he's either terminally and arrogantly stupid or several synapses short of the connection imo .. or both.
Caryl
A Slice Of English
07 Aug 2010, 01:40
AJ Hanson Just cant believe it... (Taken from facebook)
Oh believe it you twisted SOB, believe it!!
So he left me, you, and E1 alone. Did AndrewG get contacted?
If he didn't he left the Insidious Foursome alone. Which, in a certain standpoint, was smart. We are Gods.
No he didn't contact me either.
Carole
:twisted: It looks like he targeted people who had shown interest in helping on the thread that started all this off.
You don't have to be :sherlock: to see that.
The thread was locked but he already knew which forum members had said they were willing to halp financially.
I must admit, I expressed sorrow for him when he first posted about his 'illness' but then didn't really visit it again after that, and was surprised to see his review of the concert. I hadn't realised all the rest till I saw this thread.
Carole
AndrewG
07 Aug 2010, 01:58
That laptop story is unbelievable really. I actually thought for a minute the guy would perhaps finally get the laptop but this has completely confirmed everything that we suspected AJ of being; an outright scamming b*stard. He has no place in society or in fact be part of a an audience at a Meat Loaf concert. I can think of several people I would have happily chipped in for to have taken his place at that show instead. What a pathetic miserable, low life excuse of a human being. I hope all his (Facebook) friends find out that he is in fact a criminal, a flithy rat. Lock em up and throw away the key.
Actually I have to apologise for all the rats on this planet, he is in fact lower than you. Sorry, now get back to finding something to nibble.
That laptop story is unbelievable really. I actually thought for a minute the guy would perhaps finally get the laptop but this has completely confirmed everything that we suspected AJ of being; an outright scamming b*stard. He has no place in society or in fact be part of a an audience at a Meat Loaf concert. I can think of several people I would have happily chipped in for to have taken his place at that show instead. What a pathetic miserable, low life excuse of a human being. I hope all his (Facebook) friends find out that he is in fact a criminal, a flithy rat. Lock em up and throw away the key.
Actually I have to apologise for all the rats on this planet, he is in fact lower than you. Sorry, now get back to finding something to nibble.
I absolutely agree with you Andrew :(
After I deleted him from my friends list and blocked him on Facebook, he actually sent me a PM on his forum asking him why I had deleted him :roll:. I deleted that message and haven't gone back to that forum since ..... the further away he stays the better !!
After I deleted him from my friends list and blocked him on Facebook, he actually sent me a PM on his forum asking him why I had deleted him :roll:. I deleted that message and haven't gone back to that forum since ..... the further away he stays the better !!
Thats a new low for him, actually.
Just proves AJ was taking advantage of you Vicki and you directly. Everyone else deleted him but he asks you only why? Guess he was hoping he could have swindled you again.
Really hope when he goes to prison, he drops the soap :evil:
Thats a new low for him, actually.
Just proves AJ was taking advantage of you Vicki and you directly. Everyone else deleted him but he asks you only why? Guess he was hoping he could have swindled you again.
Absolutely ! He was hoping that I would fall for it again, and be on his side. And that's exactly why I thought it was better just to ignore his message and never go back to that site again.
Really hope when he goes to prison, he drops the soap :evil:
You and me both !
Pudding
07 Aug 2010, 04:13
Well, anyone who mentions anything to be above 100% like what he did, is a total shithead in my opinion.
I think he mentioned back on .net that he was handicapped, back when I complained about no midwest shows during Bat 3. Then all of a sudden he was on here excited about a SOO show and going to be there. Next thing we know he is sick with cancer and then a tribute artist. I hate to say this, but we (T and I) just rolled our eyes and looked at each other with "Oh God Not Another One." The people we know in person understand that this is something that does happen, but we usually see it coming a mile away. Vicki, we know you and we are so sorry you were used. God, we all love the music, but the net is a breeding ground for con artists.
Our Best,
T and Jules
I think he mentioned back on .net that he was handicapped, back when I complained about no midwest shows during Bat 3. Then all of a sudden he was on here excited about a SOO show and going to be there. Next thing we know he is sick with cancer and then a tribute artist. I hate to say this, but we (T and I) just rolled our eyes and looked at each other with "Oh God Not Another One." The people we know in person understand that this is something that does happen, but we usually see it coming a mile away. Vicki, we know you and we are so sorry you were used. God, we all love the music, but the net is a breeding ground for con artists.
Our Best,
T and Jules
Thanks, I appreciate it. And yes, I agree with you about the con artists :(
My best to both of you !
Vicki
Pud, WTF is that avatar? Crap it's making me dizzy! And I have as good or better and they are real!
Jules
A reletive maybe?
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/7941483/fake-cancer-woman-swindles-well-wishers
No he didn't contact me either.
Carole
He didn't single me out either. I did express I would help out if there was a program set up in his name but it didn't go any further as I was awaiting for the mods to inform us of the process. I did immediately defriend him from facebook and he sent me a "wthell?" message after I requested to be deleted from the alternate site he set up.
I told him the same could be asked of him and that this "friendship" had been compromised due to recent fraud activities that he had been involved with on PBNations. So, it was best I kept my distance.
He tried to pm me back but I ignored it. He clearly used my friend here and honestly, I have zero tolerance for crap like that.
Couch Potato
07 Aug 2010, 05:19
Pud, WTF is that avatar? Crap it's making me dizzy! And I have as good or better and they are real!
Jules
They are not making me dizzy but hypnotizing me...
I think they're saying 'give me all your money'
Pudding
07 Aug 2010, 05:33
Pud, WTF is that avatar? Crap it's making me dizzy! And I have as good or better and they are real!
Jules
LMAO. I bet most people stare at my avatar for at least 5 seconds, some even longer. You send me a gif of yours Jules and I promise to use it as my avatar ;)
LMAO. I bet most people stare at my avatar for at least 5 seconds, some even longer. You send me a gif of yours Jules and I promise to use it as my avatar ;)
can i send you a GIF of mine?
Couch Potato
07 Aug 2010, 05:39
LMAO. I bet most people stare at my avatar for at least 5 seconds, some even longer. You send me a gif of yours Jules and I promise to use it as my avatar ;)
I stared at it for an hour earlier...how time flies when your havin fun
Bloody hell, I too feel stupid as I donated to that nasty piece of work too, I honestly thought I was helping someone out, who was very ill, never again. Oh well, makes me laugh, just read his facebook wall, and he seems surprised why he was banned from here, utter toss pot. :mad:
Bloody hell, I too feel stupid as I donated to that nasty piece of work too, I honestly thought I was helping someone out, who was very ill, never again. Oh well, makes me laugh, just read his facebook wall, and he seems surprised why he was banned from here, utter toss pot. :mad:
Listen...he is a scammer...and you're a good person...this is what you have to take home at the end of the day...it's not about being swindled...it's about being kind and generous...
Oh...which one is he on the facebook? Just so I know...
Pud, WTF is that avatar? Crap it's making me dizzy! And I have as good or better and they are real!
Jules
Once I again I vote for another woman moderator! That damn avatar is somehow mesmerizing and offensive at the same time..
Listen...he is a scammer...and you're a good person...this is what you have to take home at the end of the day...it's not about being swindled...it's about being kind and generous...
Exactly right mszee. And I'm truly sorry you got taken in by him too Jayd :(
~Helen~
08 Aug 2010, 01:04
On the topic of facebook, any one know what came of him speaking with certain band members on there? I'm sure I shouldn't be bothered but I feel a bit unhappy at collectively being painted as an unreasonable harsh bunch.
Monstro
08 Aug 2010, 01:09
On the topic of facebook, any one know what came of him speaking with certain band members on there? I'm sure I shouldn't be bothered but I feel a bit unhappy at collectively being painted as an unreasonable harsh bunch.
Members of the mod team have made sure that the band know the truth, rest assured that the truth is known!!
Members of the mod team have made sure that the band know the truth, rest assured that the truth is known!!
once again ? ... thanks moddies !!! ... :cheer: ...
Rage Against
08 Aug 2010, 01:30
Pud, WTF is that avatar? Crap it's making me dizzy! And I have as good or better and they are real!
Jules
I think Pudding's avatar should be nominated for "Avatar of the Year"!!!!:twisted:
Rage Against
08 Aug 2010, 01:33
Once I again I vote for another woman moderator! That damn avatar is somehow mesmerizing and offensive at the same time..
Mesmerizing yes!! Offensive, certainly not!!! :drool:
Once I again I vote for another woman moderator!
I NOMINATE ZINA :cool:
Monstro
08 Aug 2010, 01:46
I think Pudding's avatar should be nominated for "Avatar of the Year"!!!!:twisted:
Makes me wonder if you lot have ever seen breasts before lol
Rage Against
08 Aug 2010, 01:50
Makes me wonder if you lot have ever seen breasts before lol
:lmao:
Pudding
08 Aug 2010, 03:31
Makes me wonder if you lot have ever seen breasts before lol
I've never seen breasts move like the ones in my avatar before, not with assistance ;)
Rage Against
08 Aug 2010, 04:37
I think Pudding and I have found a subject we can agree upon :D
~Helen~
09 Aug 2010, 00:45
Members of the mod team have made sure that the band know the truth, rest assured that the truth is known!!
Thank you :-)
Couch Potato
09 Aug 2010, 02:34
Makes me wonder if you lot have ever seen breasts before lol
i have my own moobs ;)
The Flying Mouse
10 Aug 2010, 21:44
:twisted: Assuming it's not one of AJ's alter egos, and this isn't another pile of bull to try and get people off his tail, it looks as though things are unraveling fast.
Dan I appreciate you trying to talk with AJ, but he is just going to fill you with bull****. I would just stay away from him. He doesn't have it "cleared up." AJ was arrested for taking his roommates tv and pawning it last week.
That guy really wants his MTV :nuts:
~Helen~
11 Aug 2010, 00:31
Hmm maybe .. although according to his facebook, he posted 18 hours ago and also yesterday at 04:50 (whose time?). Prior to that though, it seemed to be 6th August. So hmmm .... it's possible? :shrug:
Pudding
11 Aug 2010, 00:38
Not really understanding why people are giving two shits what this lowlife is doing or posting these days :shrug: I think too much time and effort has already been wasted on him.
I wanna just be told when he gets arrested and his sentence.
Ive been looking over the PBN thread every day to look at updates. Im a member there. been debating whether i should reply to that thread :|
Evil One
11 Aug 2010, 00:43
I wanna just be told when he gets arrested and his sentence.
Whatever his sentence, let's hope you don't have to type it out.
Whatever his sentence, let's hope you don't have to type it out.
Wario for court stenographer 8O
samurai7
11 Aug 2010, 01:51
Whatever his sentence, let's hope you don't have to type it out.
post of the week! :twisted:
daveake
11 Aug 2010, 02:01
Whatever his sentence, let's hope you don't have to type it out.
He'll be inside for a long spell.
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