View Full Version : The Greatest Single Never to be Released?
With all the fantastic tracks that Meat has done over the years I just woundered about peoples veiw on tracks from the albums that people would have liked to have seem as a single but never were.
my picks are:
Out of The Frying pan
Amnesty Is Granted
"For Crying Out Loud" was the only song on BOOH not to be released, and in my opinion it was the best track.
"Life is a Lemon" was another song that should have been released. A real rocker that would have got loads of play on the airwaves.
"Where the rubber meet the road" is one of the most underrated tracks in his catalogue that would have done really well in the charts.
Amnesty Is Granted
I always wondered if there were plans to release it as a single in the U.S. There's a MCA promo CD of it. :??:
Evil One
10 Sep 2010, 20:56
Testify is the main one that springs to mind. It could have done wonders for CHSIB.
"Life is a Lemon" was another song that should have been released. A real rocker that would have got loads of play on the airwaves
Lemon was in fact released as single old chum. B-Side was the live version of GGGTH that's on LATW ;)
As for me:
"Masculine", like it or not, would've been a good seller for BBIS. It was considered without a doubt.
"Frying Pan" sand "Amnesty" as White said
"Testify" as E1 stated.
"In the Land of the Pigs", 'Break It", and "Blind as a Bat". There is no excuse for the singles that were picked.
"California" is a perfect single. Period.
Evil One
10 Sep 2010, 21:13
Lemon was in fact released as single old chum. B-Side was the live version of GGGTH that's on LATW ;)
Where do you get these random facts? It was not the live version of GGGTH.
Where do you get these random facts? It was not the live version of GGGTH.
Really? could have sworn I saw on ebay a 45' that had it as a B-Side.
if im wrong, its just the studio version.
Evil One
10 Sep 2010, 21:44
It is just the studio version.
Lemon was never released man...it would have been number 1 if it was. ;) I much prefer the remix on the Very Best. Jeff Bova added his magic to the tune, and took it to a new level.
Pudding
11 Sep 2010, 00:18
Lemon was never released man...it would have been number 1 if it was. ;)
No.1 in the biggest pile of bollocks charts maybe.
I'm going with Testify and also Prize Fight Lover
Lemon was in fact released as single old chum. B-Side was the live version of GGGTH that's on LATW ;)
I know of a U.S. promo single that includes three different versions of Lemon and I believe the single you mentioned is a European promo. It was never available in stores, as far as I know, so it actually was not "released".
I'm going with Testify and also Prize Fight Lover
Good choice. :-)
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 00:30
Lemon was never released man...it would have been number 1 if it was. ;) I much prefer the remix on the Very Best. Jeff Bova added his magic to the tune, and took it to a new level.
By magic you mean pretend instruments? I could happily live without ever hearing Jeff Bova's magic ever again.
By magic you mean pretend instruments? I could happily live without ever hearing Jeff Bova's magic ever again.
Hes on organ on what you see and all revved up on LATW...
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 00:41
I think he's just responsible for the electro drum beat on the intro to All Revved Up, which is unnecessary and possibly added after the fact.
No.1 in the biggest pile of bollocks charts maybe.
I'm going with Testify and also Prize Fight Lover
Testify is goodish but it lacks the gothic magic of lemon which is what makes it special. I know a lot of people who don't like Meat Loaf but think Lemon is an awesome song. It depends on your taste I suppose. Isn't it one of Meat's favourite songs too? Top 3?
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 01:39
Testify is goodish but it lacks the gothic magic of lemon which is what makes it special. I know a lot of people who don't like Meat Loaf but think Lemon is an awesome song. It depends on your taste I suppose. Isn't it one of Meat's favourite songs too? Top 3?
Testify is completely different to the regular Meat sound, but it could have been a great, feel good, summer song. No matter how bad Meat's voice has been, he can still scream his way through Lemon and make it sound good. That doesn't mean I'm not bored of it and it doesn't mean that the arrangement on Bat 2 is also boring. The three singles released from that album were all the correct choices.
I would go for What About Love, imo an awesome duet with Patti, my fave song from BAT 3. Maybe it could have done well, we will never know.
Pudding
11 Sep 2010, 02:08
Testify is goodish but it lacks the gothic magic of lemon which is what makes it special.
Gothic magic? It's probably one of the most un-gothic songs Jim has done.
Gothic magic? It's probably one of the most un-gothic songs Jim has done.
Agree.
Testify is completely different to the regular Meat sound, but it could have been a great, feel good, summer song. No matter how bad Meat's voice has been, he can still scream his way through Lemon and make it sound good. That doesn't mean I'm not bored of it and it doesn't mean that the arrangement on Bat 2 is also boring. The three singles released from that album were all the correct choices.
You're right about Testify it would have done well in the charts because of it's feel good factor, it's a good song to sing along to aswell. I wonder if they had kept it as the album title would they have released it as the first single?
I agree with two of the choices they released as the Bat 2 singles. AFL and Objects are awesome songs, but RNR dreams wouldn't have been my choice. I would have picked "Lemon" and "Good Girls go to heaven" over it for the simple reason I liked them more. ;-) But I wouldn't have got things my own way eh? :lol:
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 02:15
You're right about Testify it would have done well in the charts because of it's feel good factor, it's a good song to sing along to aswell. I wonder if they had kept it as the album title would they have released it as the first single?
Probably not given past examples. :roll:
I agree with two of the choices they released as the Bat 2 singles. AFL and Objects are awesome songs, but RNR dreams wouldn't have been my choice. I would have picked "Lemon" and "Good Girls go to heaven" over it for the simple reason I liked them more. ;-) But I wouldn't have got things my own way eh? :lol:
:nope:
Steve6 is the newest regular cast member now.
Elijah's way
11 Sep 2010, 02:39
Blind As A Bat, Left In The Dark, For Crying Out Loud, In The Land Of The Pig, and Because Of You
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 02:41
How would you have made FCOL work as a single without ruining the song?
Elijah's way
11 Sep 2010, 02:46
How would you have made FCOL work as a single without ruining the song?
I'm not sure really but maybe there's a way
Because Of You
was a single...
Monstro
11 Sep 2010, 02:52
I always wondered if there were plans to release it as a single in the U.S. There's a MCA promo CD of it. :??:
Got it
Testify is the main one that springs to mind. It could have done wonders for CHSIB.
Yup
No.1 in the biggest pile of bollocks charts maybe.
I'm going with Testify and also Prize Fight Lover
Again a big yup
Left In The Dark
I'd really like to know how that would've done, love to think it would've set the charts alite
How would you have made FCOL work as a single without ruining the song?
The same way they did AFL!!! :yep:
was a single...
Was it? :wtf:
The same way they did AFL!!! :yep:
wa? AFL is a totally different song. Some people prefer its single edits (I know I do).
FCOL cant be edited like AFL. AFL has obvious points where you could trim for radio. I have made my own edit that I have on my ipod. I cant listen to the 12 minute monster.
FCOL is different. its meant to be epic.
I can only see them cutting FCOL's second verse and that still too long for radio. Even if they leave the second verse and cut out the end its still too long.
No way it could be edited without loosing its vice.
Was it? :wtf:
:yep:
I can only see them cutting FCOL's second verse and that still too long for radio. Even if they leave the second verse and cut out the end its still too long.
If they cut out from "For taking in the rain....." to the end, you would save a lot of time, and still get the songs power and emotion across. Length isn't a problem if the song is outstanding which it is.
:yep:
Show me when and where it was released, and how well it did? I know they released CHSIB, Did I say that, and Man of Steel, but not that one. Where do you get your information from?
Show me when and where it was released, and how well it did? I know they released CHSIB, Did I say that, and Man of Steel, but not that one. Where do you get your information from?
I get my info from various places.
This in particular:
http://mljs.evilnickname.org/meatloaf/singles/becauseofyou.html
It was a one track deal. i saw a CD of it on ebay a while back.
Elijah's way
11 Sep 2010, 09:18
was a single...
I never knew that.:shrug: Why didn't they make a video for it?
I never knew that.:shrug: Why didn't they make a video for it?
i have n oidea.
probably the same reason they never made a video for these other singles:
All revved up
peel out
Midnight at the lost & found
special girl
lemon
red light
kiss is a terrible thing to waste
IICHY may or may not get a video at this point either.
Elijah's way
11 Sep 2010, 09:45
i have n oidea.
probably the same reason they never made a video for these other singles:
All revved up
peel out
Midnight at the lost & found
special girl
lemon
red light
kiss is a terrible thing to waste
IICHY may or may not get a video at this point either.
It's a terrible shame that they never made video's for these songs. Imagine how epic a Life Is A Lemon video would be!!
was a single...
Wario, please stop calling promo CDs "singles". :roll:
Because Of You was a single... At least in Germany.
That's new to me. I've never heard or seen it anywhere. Sources?
Pudding
11 Sep 2010, 11:24
Sources?
Ketchup and mayo ;)
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 12:07
I'd prefer brown.
i have n oidea.
probably the same reason they never made a video for these other singles:
[LIST]
All revved up
peel out
Midnight at the lost & found
special girl
lemon
red light
kiss is a terrible thing to waste
You don't do any kind of research Wario. We even discussed the fact that "Lemon" was not released as a single. :roll: Not to mention the other ones in your list. Sometimes you post interesting things, but this kind of stuff this isn't one them. :yep:
Pudding
11 Sep 2010, 12:59
Sometimes you post interesting things, but this kind of stuff this isn't one them. :yep:
Oooooo, a lovers disagreement between Steve6 and Wario :shock: this could be interesting :lurk:
Elijah's way
11 Sep 2010, 13:52
Home By Now/No Matter What
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 13:57
No Matter What was released. It is still played occasionally on Radio 2.
No Matter What was released. It is still played occasionally on Radio 2.
Yeah it was released by Boyzone in 1998 and went to number 1, but that's a separate issue. "A kiss is a terrible...." was never released. Is Nothing Scared was the only new song on the very best to be released.
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 14:59
MEAT LOAF'S NO MATTER WHAT HAS BEEN PLAYED MANY TIMES ON RADIO 2.
Yeah but there is a big difference in it being played on the radio, and it being released as an official single. :yep:
Monstro
11 Sep 2010, 15:48
What's this then?
http://media.mlxxfc.net/700704.jpg
What's this then?
Two CD's with "A kiss...." and "No Matter What" written on them, but that doesn't confirm to me they were released as singles. Why would they release "No Matter what" in 1998 when Boyzone did? :roll:
Evil One
11 Sep 2010, 17:12
Because it was a ~~~~ up. Jim promised it to Meat and ALW promised it to Boyzone. They both recorded it and both released it.
Because it was a ~~~~ up. Jim promised it to Meat and ALW promised it to Boyzone. They both recorded it and both released it.
But to be fair Boyzone were hot property back then especially in the UK. :yep: They would have been my choice too, if I was going to benefit from it.
For me it's 'Testify' 'Blind as a bat' 'Amnesty'
Pudding
12 Sep 2010, 00:20
But to be fair
To be fair, admit that you were wrong.
To be fair, admit that you were wrong.
I'm not wrong. It went to "Number 1" with Boyzone. :yep: I personally think Meat's version is a billion times better though. But the decision was made to give it to the hot property at the time which happened to be Boyzone. What could be done about it? Nothing!!
Pudding
12 Sep 2010, 02:37
I'm not wrong.
You're so dumb it beggars belief, you can't even keep up with your own shit :wacko: You claimed Meats version of No Matter What wasn't released as a single, when it was, you were wrong.
What's this then?
http://media.mlxxfc.net/700704.jpg
I have this 2-disc set. They are promo CDs, too. Not for sale.
A Kiss... was released as a regular single with No Matter What as a B-Side.
Why would they release "No Matter what" in 1998 when Boyzone did? :roll:
Because Meat had to fly home for a family emergency
Caryl
Pudding
12 Sep 2010, 11:49
Because Meat had to fly home for a family emergency
What's that got to do with anything? :confused: Are you saying that because of the family emergency the song was rushed out or it was released when it wasn't supposed to be?
duke knooby
12 Sep 2010, 14:08
the greatest meat loaf single never to have been released would in my opinion have to be... SURFS UP.
evil nickname
12 Sep 2010, 14:59
"Surf's Up" has been released as in the single in the US.
Are you sure? I've seen a few 7" and 12" promo records issued by RCA, but never a regular single, in spite of the fact that they made a music video.
evil nickname
12 Sep 2010, 16:03
Nothing on my 7" copy indicates that it's a promo. (And it doesn't quite look like one either: it has a black label instead of a white one (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=220644513917).)
I know what the white label versions look like. Do you have a pic of your record?
evil nickname
12 Sep 2010, 17:15
I do now.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4107/4982290659_40f6b86d5a_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/evilnickname/4982290659/)
Surf's Up (http://www.flickr.com/photos/evilnickname/4982290659/) by evil nickname (http://www.flickr.com/people/evilnickname/), on Flickr
Interesting, thanks. That's the first time I see one, they must have hidden it very well. :-) Do you have the original cover? What does it look like?
duke knooby
12 Sep 2010, 17:23
whys its hole so big?? :lol:
ta for posting... one learns something new every so often
evil nickname
12 Sep 2010, 17:36
Do you have the original cover? What does it look like?
It came in a RCA-company sleeve. (Number 29 or 30 on this page (http://45-sleeves.com/USA/rca/rca-us.htm).)
whys its hole so big??
Jukeboxes. Larger holes make the changing easier than those tiny ones.
duke knooby
12 Sep 2010, 17:43
Jukeboxes. Larger holes make the changing easier than those tiny ones.
nice one, ta...
so it was definitely available for jukeboxes, there were promo discs and dj discs not for sale, there was a vid made. but how did it do in the charts??
(its the uk version i'd want released... love the piano and guitars :D)
It came in a RCA-company sleeve.
Strange... RCA usually used picture covers for Meat Loaf singles.
My 7" RCA Surf's Up is also in the RCA paper label, with the jukebox hole. This has Jumping The Gun as a B Side.
I've also got a 12" in a picture sleeve which has the same "skull" cover picture as the UK Piece Of The Action release. This one has Bad Attitude as a B Side and is a white label promo.
You don't do any kind of research Wario. We even discussed the fact that "Lemon" was not released as a single. :roll: Not to mention the other ones in your list. Sometimes you post interesting things, but this kind of stuff this isn't one them. :yep:
This coming from the one who knows the details of Meat's finances and Patti's paycheques?? What's that phrase about people in glass houses...
Getting back on topic...my greatest single never to be released (and I'm not sure if this would count as it didn't actually make the album) would be Decadent Wish. I think it's an amazing track that really was wasted by not making the final album cut, so that's my greatest singe :up:
AndrewG
12 Sep 2010, 18:27
Yeah I remember those single juke box holes. You used to have to use one of those plastic thingies in the centre on the record player to get them to play properly. I guess you would call them a vinyl single adapter. Quite often these were included with the turntable ( a little section in the corner of the turntable to keep it in when not using it).
Together with messing with tapes those were fun times and you had to put a bit of effort in to listen to music rather than just click some buttons. :D
Although all sorts of limited release singles have been available, I personally don't consider a single to be a single without marketing and probably a video. In that case Surf's Up was a single as there was a video.
Blind as a Bat should have been the first single from Bat 3, second single should have been Alive and third Bad for Good. Those are the biggest single failures I can see. Anything would have been better than IACBTMN as Meat had to do the whole why he recorded it explaining things and the production was rather disappointing in comparison to Celine Dion's so I don't see the point in that one and then we got what most of us here consider the worst song on Bat 3 as the proper second single. Very disappointing. Could have been so much better.
Blind as a Bat should have been the first single from Bat 3
If it had at least been the second single... I wonder why they withdrew it and replaced it by Cry Over Me? :mad:
AndrewG
12 Sep 2010, 18:46
If it had at least been the second single... I wonder why they withdrew it and replaced it by Cry Over Me? :mad:
It was also the most depressing video I've ever seen with Meat in it. I refuse to watch it again.
duke knooby
12 Sep 2010, 19:17
If it had at least been the second single... I wonder why they withdrew it and replaced it by Cry Over Me? :mad:
to make diane warren even more cash???
contractural reasons??
who knows
Meat has said he wanted BAAB as the single, but Marion's representatives and the company wanted to promote her.
im sure he said it here I just need to find the post.
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/WarioSmiley.gif
Yes, but then they picked it as the second single, there were Blind As A Bat CDs already, Meat sang it at The Royal Variety Performance and all of a sudden they threw it away and released Cry Over Me instead. :??: What's the explanation for that?
Pudding
13 Sep 2010, 01:24
Cry Over Me sucks donkey's balls. If they were going to release all 14 songs as singles, then it should have been released as single number #14
Rage Against
13 Sep 2010, 01:31
Cry Over Me sucks donkey's balls. If they were going to release all 14 songs as singles, then it should have been released as single number #14
You forgot the "In my opinion" part. I like Cry Over Me. So in your opinion it sucks donkey's balls. In my opinion, it's a good song.
Yes, but then they picked it as the second single, there were Blind As A Bat CDs already, Meat sang it at The Royal Variety Performance and all of a sudden they threw it away and released Cry Over Me instead. :??: What's the explanation for that?
I don't know but it was a mistake. BAAB is head and shoulders above it, and probaly the best track on the album. Record companies make mistakes once it comes to single choices. "Alive" is another one that could been released so could "Land of the pigs". "It's all coming...." and "Cry over me" aren't the best tracks on the album, and wouldn't have been my choice as single releases.
Yes, but then they picked it as the second single, there were Blind As A Bat CDs already, Meat sang it at The Royal Variety Performance and all of a sudden they threw it away and released Cry Over Me instead. :??: What's the explanation for that?
Give Warren's previous track record with meat on the successful Lie for You and Dry Eye singles, the record company probably saw money in Diane Warren's song.
Lesson in point: money before quality never works.
regardless if COM is a good song or not its a bad single choice and doesn't represent Bat 3 as a whole like BAAB did...
Pudding
13 Sep 2010, 02:01
You forgot the "In my opinion" part.
I didn't forget anything. I never spoke for anyone else, so it's obviously my opinion. What are we at school...WTF? :wtf:
Rage Against
13 Sep 2010, 02:04
I didn't forget anything. I never spoke for anyone else, so it's obviously my opinion. What are we at school...WTF? :wtf:
Yes and "class" is in session.
Give Warren's previous track record with meat on the successful Lie for You and Dry Eye singles, the record company probably saw money in Diane Warren's song.
I don't know... The songs she contributed to WTTN were much better than Cry Over Me, in my opinion. I suspect that Not A Dry Eye and especially I'd Lie For You were quite popular not only because of the music but also because of the videos and the fact that it was in the wake of the Bat II success. Cry Over Me is a comparatively weak song and the video wasn't very spectacular, too (to put it politely). I don't understand how anybody could expect it to be as equally successful as the WTTN singles.
AndrewG
13 Sep 2010, 02:56
I've pretty much not heard a "great" Diane Warren song since the 90s. :shrug:
Love the WTTN songs, "Don't want to miss a thing", "Reach" (with Gloria Estefan), "un-break my heart", "nothing's gonna stop us now" and "how do I live".
I would put her in the same league as Desmond Child when it comes to song writing. Awesome when great but mostly average.
robgomm
13 Sep 2010, 12:29
I would have liked to see released as singles Blind as a bat and land of the pigs from bat 3, and left in the dark and original sin from WTTN.
I would have liked to see released as singles Blind as a bat and land of the pigs from bat 3, and left in the dark and original sin from WTTN.
id just like to see a single release?
I agree with Sarge's comment about the Cry Over Me video being weak, it didn't help get the single off it's feet. In comparison to the videos he had during the 90s it looks very poor even the videos on CHSIB, but then again he didn't have Michael Bay as the director. The songs are larger than life, and blend in well with a blockbuster of a music video.
AndrewG
13 Sep 2010, 16:30
I agree with Sarge's comment about the Cry Over Me video being weak, it didn't help get the single off it's feet. In comparison to the videos he had during the 90s it looks very poor even the videos on CHSIB, but then again he didn't have Michael Bay as the director. The songs are larger than life, and blend in well with a blockbuster of a music video.
I doubt a different director would have made much difference here. Michael Bay didn't direct I'd Lie for You and that was still a fantastic video. IACBTMN wasn't a bad video either in my opinion, they did well with the song. But A more exciting song, thus more exciting video (BAAB or Alive) would have no doubt made more of an impact.
robgomm
13 Sep 2010, 16:49
COM isn't a bad song imo, it's really quite powerful emotionally. But it did have a bad video and wasn't exciting enough.
COM was always going to be a hard one to win people over. Look at what tops the charts these days. Cry over me just wasn't going to fit in and didn't, poor music video or not. Some people in the record business don't keep up with the times at all, and make daft decisions. To be fair to the "TMIL" that wouldn't have looked at all out of place in the charts IMO. Maybe they think Meat can only do well with power ballads, and that's why they nearly always pick the power ballads as singles.
glamourgirl
13 Sep 2010, 18:45
I would go for What About Love, imo an awesome duet with Patti, my fave song from BAT 3. Maybe it could have done well, we will never know.
I agree.
without a doubt probably one of the biggest reasons for meats hatred of bat 3 is the fact he didnt pick the singles.
Im sure BAAB and Break It wouldve been released if he had
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/WarioSmiley.gif
without a doubt probably one of the biggest reasons for meats hatred of bat 3 is the fact he didnt pick the singles.
Im sure BAAB and Break It wouldve been released if he had
I don't think Meat has ever been aloud make the decision on what singles get released, and it's the same with nearly every artist out there. Unless you own a record company you have no final way. Yes I'm sure he would have given his opinion on what he wanted. But he's not the one in charge.
Pudding
14 Sep 2010, 01:17
Im sure BAAB and Break It wouldve been released if he had
BAAB maybe, Break It :nope:
BAAB maybe, Break It :nope:
well he seems to really love break it, just thought thats what hed pick
Elijah's way
14 Sep 2010, 06:15
You forgot the "In my opinion" part. I like Cry Over Me. So in your opinion it sucks donkey's balls. In my opinion, it's a good song.
IMO also, it's a good song, I really like it. And I really like the video.
Pudding
14 Sep 2010, 07:05
well he seems to really love break it, just thought thats what hed pick
He might love it but that doesn't mean it'd be a good representation of the album. Pig, STN, and especially Future are better Steinman songs that should've been released as singles. Monster, BAAB and WAL are the best non-Steinman tracks that should've been released as single in my opinion.
Elijah's way
14 Sep 2010, 13:20
Rock 'n' Roll Hero
He might love it but that doesn't mean it'd be a good representation of the album. Pig, STN, and especially Future are better Steinman songs that should've been released as singles. Monster, BAAB and WAL are the best non-Steinman tracks that should've been released as single in my opinion.
Future and STN are similar enough to COM they just won't do well in the charts. You have to blend in with the stuff that's selling and topping the charts in order to have a successful single. These songs wouldn't blend in well IMO. Pigs would because it's a modern sounding track like BAAB, and monster.
You have to blend in with the stuff that's selling and topping the charts in order to have a successful single.
According to that statement Anything For Love could never have been a success.
Personally I think it's Meat's complete lack of blending in that makes him a success.
Personally I think it's Meat's complete lack of blending in that makes him a success.
Exactly :-)
AndrewG
14 Sep 2010, 19:07
You have to blend in with the stuff that's selling and topping the charts in order to have a successful single.
I think that's exactly where and when they failed, when they tried to blend Meat too much into things with IACBTMN and COM. Surely something like BAAB or Bad For Good is much more different and bombastic. IACBTMN was already a successful single for Celine Dion and I'm sure that's why they went for it again, even though it should really be reason NOT to do it.
It was definitely a reason not to do it, it completely alienated anyone who disliked the song the first time around and anyone who dislikes Celine Dion...I'm sure there'll have been people who didn't even bother to listen to it because of one or both of those reasons. They really should have released a completely unknown song, Fresh Meat if you will!
It was definitely a reason not to do it, it completely alienated anyone who disliked the song the first time around and anyone who dislikes Celine Dion...
I don't like Celine Dion but I liked her version. :oops: When I first heard Meat's version I thought "Good Lord, have they run out of songs and good ideas?"
Pudding
15 Sep 2010, 02:47
Future and STN are similar enough to COM they just won't do well in the charts.
That's utter bollocks. The Future had Jennifer Hudson on it, the hottest thing at the time with all her Oscar buzz.
Pudding
15 Sep 2010, 02:50
I don't like Celine Dion but I liked her version. :oops: When I first heard Meat's version I thought "Good Lord, have they run out of songs and good ideas?"
Exactly! and I like Celine Dion...well some of her stuff.
The Future had Jennifer Hudson on it
... who wasn't even mentioned during the promo - which is strange with regard to what a big fuss they made about the other contributors.
you know what actually would have made the best single?
Hot Patootie
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r149/Deadringerforlove/WarioSmiley.gif
From which album? It never appeared on a Meat Loaf record aside from Live Around The World.
I just mean if Rocky Horror decided to release a third single (Transvestite and Time Warp were released). Couldve been great :shrug:
Elijah's way
15 Sep 2010, 06:13
From which album? It never appeared on a Meat Loaf record aside from Live Around The World.
Could've done well probabley Meat was pritty big at the time it may have charted. And it isn't unusawell to release a live song as a single.
I just mean if Rocky Horror decided to release a third single
Okay, but that's not a Meat Loaf album.
Could've done well probabley Meat was pritty big at the time it may have charted. And it isn't unusawell to release a live song as a single.
As far as I remember, Meat has never released a live song as a single so far. The only one I know of is a promo single of Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad from the Live With The MSO album.
jcmoorehead
15 Sep 2010, 14:42
For me greatest singles to not be released, well like many I was hoping for a single release of Testify from CHSIB.
However the big one for me was something like Pig or Future not being released from Bat 3. Pig because in my view it is the best song on that album. Future because of the buzz surrounding Hudson at the time.
That said I don't really care for singles and if they chart or not, as long as the artists I like are producing good music thats what I'm interested in. Yes I like them to do well but the charts don't really tell you what is good and what isn't, it just tells you what is popular.
Not really saying there isn't good music in the charts but the ratio isn't great.
evil nickname
15 Sep 2010, 20:01
As far as I remember, Meat has never released a live song as a single so far.
Bat Out of Hell from the Live at Wembley album was edited beyond recognition and released as a single (http://mljs.evilnickname.org/meatloaf/singles/batoutofhelllive.html).
daveake
15 Sep 2010, 20:37
Could've done well probabley Meat was pritty big at the time it may have charted. And it isn't unusawell to release a live song as a single.
Have you stolen Wario's spell checker? :lol:
AndrewG
15 Sep 2010, 20:37
Bat Out of Hell from the Live at Wembley album was edited beyond recognition and released as a single (http://mljs.evilnickname.org/meatloaf/singles/batoutofhelllive.html).
Bat at 3:40? Good luck with that. Could be Warioloaf's new project. :?
Bat at 3:40? Good luck with that. Could be Warioloaf's new project. :?
I cant even make bat legable in under 4 minutes. sorry but no.
BOOH is like Bohemian Rhapsody you just can't edit it, and expect it to be effective. It has to be at it's full length baby!!!
evil nickname
15 Sep 2010, 23:15
Bat at 3:40? Good luck with that. Could be Warioloaf's new project. :?
00:00 - intro
00:50 - Sirens are screaming
01:49 - Like a bat out of hell
02:25 - Hitting the highway
02:50 - Gotta be damned
03:22 - Done dancing through the night, guitar bit and end.
The extended live edit doesn't make much more sense.
Evil Nickname is right you can do it in under 4 mins. Wario get cracking on your next project but don't post it here, we've seen enough!!! ;-)
duke knooby
16 Sep 2010, 01:19
BOOH is like Bohemian Rhapsody you just can't edit it, and expect it to be effective. It has to be at it's full length baby!!!
Evil Nickname is right you can do it in under 4 mins. Wario get cracking on your next project but don't post it here, we've seen enough!!! ;-)
:wtf:
we've seen enough!!! ;-)
thats really odd. My edits have been positively reviewed (my LOTO single edit still makes me wonder how i did that), its my miming that people hate :))
:wtf:
Don't give me that wtf dukey boy. I said if BOOH was edited; it wouldn't be as effective as the full version which is the truth. I didn't think you could edit it down to under 4 mins and have it half decent, until Evil Nickname showed us how. But I HATE the edited version without the intro, motocycle guitar, and the ending. Maybe Wario can work his magic but I doubt it. ;-)
Pudding
16 Sep 2010, 03:41
Don't give me that wtf dukey boy. I said if BOOH was edited; it wouldn't be as effective as the full version which is the truth.
Actually you didn't say that, what you said was - BOOH is like Bohemian Rhapsody you just can't edit it, and expect it to be effective. It has to be at it's full length baby!!!
You never said if BOOH was edited, you said you can't edit it. ;)
Elijah's way
16 Sep 2010, 09:25
Have you stolen Wario's spell checker? :lol:
Yeah lol
robgomm
16 Sep 2010, 10:40
Actually you didn't say that, what you said was - BOOH is like Bohemian Rhapsody you just can't edit it, and expect it to be effective. It has to be at it's full length baby!!!
You never said if BOOH was edited, you said you can't edit it. ;)
And the award for most pedantic forum member goes to......drum roll.....pudding!
Actually you didn't say that, what you said was - BOOH is like Bohemian Rhapsody you just can't edit it, and expect it to be effective. It has to be at it's full length baby!!!
You never said if BOOH was edited, you said you can't edit it. ;)
I said you can't edit it to be as effective as the FULL VERSION. Ok ignore the "can't edit it", and read the effective bit you'll understand my meaning. Describing you as pedantic is an understatement. :-)
I'm sure it's possible to edit Bohemian Rhapsody too, but it wouldn't be as EFFECTIVE as the FULL VERSION. ;-)
I said you can't edit it to be as effective as the FULL VERSION. Ok ignore the "can't edit it", and read the effective bit you'll understand my meaning. Describing you as pedantic is an understatement. :-)
I'm sure it's possible to edit Bohemian Rhapsody too, but it wouldn't be as EFFECTIVE as the FULL VERSION. ;-)
he knew what you ment, he just listens to the voices in hes head
Pudding
17 Sep 2010, 07:33
And the award for most pedantic forum member goes to......drum roll.....pudding!
PUDantic ;)
he knew what you ment, he just listens to the voices in hes head
Of course I knew what he meant, I just don't like him :kickass:
Of course I knew what he meant, I just don't like him :kickass:
but you like me :))
PUDantic ;)
Of course I knew what he meant, I just don't like him :kickass:
Are you serious? Why don't you like me? :(
I know at the back of it all you like me a small bit. I'm sure you wouldn't like to see anything bad happening to me, and hope I do well in life.
Anyway as the moderators would say "back on topic". I have a question and I might aswell ask it in this thread; which single do you think should never have been released? Mine would be "Is Nothing Scared", I didn't like "Man of Steel", either.
Smithie
17 Sep 2010, 18:43
Anyway as the moderators would say "back on topic". I have a question and I might aswell ask it in this thread; which single do you think should never have been released? Mine would be "Is Nothing Scared", I didn't like "Man of Steel", either.
"Is Nothing Sacred" was a hit in the UK. I think INS reached #15 and Man of Steel reached #21.
"Is Nothing Sacred" was a hit in the UK. I think INS reached #15 and Man of Steel reached #21.
I liked Man of Steel .. absolutely LOVED Is Nothing Sacred. Marvellous lyrics from Don Black, and superb vocals from Meat.
Caryl
I know at the back of it all you like me a small bit.
Wherever did you get that idea?
Caryl
I liked Man olf Steel .. absolutely LOVED Is Nothing Sacred.
Both songs are a little too schmaltzy for my liking and made me almost forget about the rock singer Meat Loaf. Unfortunately, most of Meat's ballads after Bat II / WTTN have been like that. They lack the power of the Steinman ballads.
They should have released Testify as a single instead of Man Of Steel.
A Slice Of English
17 Sep 2010, 20:10
Trouble is, most of Meat's more successful tracks have been ballads so record companies appear to stick with what they know.
I'm referring to:
AFL, ILFY, NADEITH, INS, IACBTMN
The public tend to recognise Meat for his ballads and BOOH.
I have no issue with ballads in general, I'm just not very keen on the ones that try to sound overly sappy. ;)
Evil One
17 Sep 2010, 20:43
which single do you think should never have been released?
I think that question starts and ends with Cry Over Me.
I think that question starts and ends with Cry Over Me.
no... it starts with Its All Coming Back To Me Now and ends with Cry Over Me
Man Of Steel was just 'fine' for me, didn't have a massive opinion either way on that one. Is Nothing Sacred was fabulous, Meat and Patti did such a great job with that :up:
I actually thought they should have released one of the covers from CHSIB, either "Forever Young" or "Mercury Blues", both were fantastic in my opinion, and radio friendly.
I agree with Wario "Cry Over Me", was another poor single choice, considering some of the other songs that were better, and weren't released. But I do listen to "Cry Over Me" from time to time.
no... it starts with Its All Coming Back To Me Now and ends with Cry Over Me
yeah but its all coming back to me charted quite well around europe. uk = 6 , ger = 7 , nor = 1 , etc etc,, so they probably got that right. not saying it was a fans fav or anything, but it did its job. and cry over me was released 8 months after the album, i like the song myself, but i know others dont.
Trouble is, most of Meat's more successful tracks have been ballads so record companies appear to stick with what they know.
I'm referring to:
AFL, ILFY, NADEITH, INS, IACBTMN
The public tend to recognise Meat for his ballads and BOOH.
best post of the day!! mud sticks
yeah but its all coming back to me charted quite well around europe. uk = 6 , ger = 7 , nor = 1
It probably did well in the UK and Germany because Meat is quite popular there. No. 1 in Norway was due to Marion Raven, I guess. I doubt that it was because of the song. It was rather because of the people who sang it, in my opinion.
AndrewG
18 Sep 2010, 02:24
It probably did well in the UK and Germany because Meat is quite popular there. No. 1 in Norway was due to Marion Raven, I guess. I doubt that it was because of the song. It was rather because of the people who sang it, in my opinion.
Agreed. Bat 3 had quite a big marketing campaign to begin with and there was quite some hype. The RAH concert helped I'm sure and there were great reviews on it on the radio etc. I'm sure that helped to push the single to a reasonable spot in the UK charts. Had it been a more exciting song of the album as many of us pointed out it would have charted longer I reckon or perhaps even higher.
Pudding
19 Sep 2010, 01:31
no... it starts with Its All Coming Back To Me Now and ends with Cry Over Me
I'll change a habit and agree with Wario on this one :shock:
Elijah's way
19 Sep 2010, 04:03
Burning Down would have been perfect for gay pride week.:lol:
Burning Down would have been perfect for gay pride week.:lol:
actually Masculine would too come to think lol
Elijah's way
19 Sep 2010, 04:11
Burning Down just sounds like a gay theme song to me.
The lyrics If it takes them so long, so long to say yes, why don't they just say no We don't need anyone to be put to the test, why don't they let us be
Livin' for the right to be, livin' for the right
Livin' for the right to be, livin' for the right
Livin' for the right to be free
We needed a plan, we needed defenses, they couldn't raise a smile
As the world looked down, they raided our
senses, there can be no reconcile
Sorry if this offends anyone.
Burning Down just sounds like a gay theme song to me.
The lyrics If it takes them so long, so long to say yes, why don't they just say no We don't need anyone to be put to the test, why don't they let us be
Livin' for the right to be, livin' for the right
Livin' for the right to be, livin' for the right
Livin' for the right to be free
We needed a plan, we needed defenses, they couldn't raise a smile
As the world looked down, they raided our
senses, there can be no reconcile
:yep: lol
AndrewG
19 Sep 2010, 04:17
Those lyrics could be interpreted as anything really. Perhaps about a hetero sexual couple living in a gay-sexual dominating world? :lol:
Burning Down just sounds like a gay theme song to me.
The lyrics If it takes them so long, so long to say yes, why don't they just say no We don't need anyone to be put to the test, why don't they let us be
Livin' for the right to be, livin' for the right
Livin' for the right to be, livin' for the right
Livin' for the right to be free
We needed a plan, we needed defenses, they couldn't raise a smile
As the world looked down, they raided our
senses, there can be no reconcile
Sorry if this offends anyone.
Jim didn't write this did he?:lol:
Elijah's way
19 Sep 2010, 04:25
Jim didn't write this did he?:lol:
No it was written by Billy Rankin
I Thinf Testify would have been a great single from CHIB.
I Thinf Testify would have been a great single from CHIB.
YES. would've loved to see a video for that.
and I would've loved to see the aborted video for Midnight
I Thinf Testify would have been a great single from CHIB.
It would have been a single had they kept it as the album title I'd say, but then again maybe not. It's radio friendly and a good car song too. Meat's version of "Mercury Blues" blows me away, and I think that would have done well had it been released.
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