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Pudding
23 Sep 2010, 02:08
You just couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

Click---> HERE (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/841752-man-jailed-for-killing-favourite-hamster-in-microwave)

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

If anyone is interested in cooking an hamster (I'm not) then THIS (http://covertorbit.tripod.com/modern_recipes.htm) website has some recipes.

AndrewG
23 Sep 2010, 02:31
Banned from keeping animals for five years? The ~~~~~~~ shouldn't be allowed to keep animals for life. Sick ~~~~~~~ that he is.

duke knooby
23 Sep 2010, 02:38
evil ~~~~~~~

duke knooby
23 Sep 2010, 02:42
You just couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

Click---> HERE (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/841752-man-jailed-for-killing-favourite-hamster-in-microwave)

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

If anyone is interested in cooking an hamster (I'm not) then THIS (http://covertorbit.tripod.com/modern_recipes.htm) website has some recipes.

as deliberate shit stirring posts go... this ones rather high up!!

Pudding
23 Sep 2010, 03:06
as deliberate shit stirring posts go... this ones rather high up!!

WTF? :nuts:

meatfanforlife
23 Sep 2010, 04:21
...wow

Wario
23 Sep 2010, 04:32
Hampster really didnt deserve it, but the guy was drunk. He's probably killing himself inside for killing his favorite hampster. If he wasn't drunk he should burn in hell.

suzieq
23 Sep 2010, 04:38
OMG about the sick person microwaving small animals....I guess it is a trait of a serial killer.

And here animals are helping people: I saw on the news that a parrot being arrested for helping a drug cartel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newsvideo/weirdnewsvideo/8008871/Parrot-arrested-for-aiding-drug-cartel.html

Pudding
23 Sep 2010, 04:57
I saw on the news that a parrot being arrested for helping a drug cartel.

Reminds of people from Hartlepool who hung a monkey (that's not some sick euphemism by the way) for apparently being a French Napoleonic spy :nuts:

GDW
23 Sep 2010, 10:31
Sick ~~~~~~~. Needs his balls put in a juice blender and turned on full speed.:mad:

A Slice Of English
23 Sep 2010, 10:35
At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

Regrettably, rape is a harder offence to prove for a large number of reasons.

The Flying Mouse
24 Sep 2010, 22:26
You just couldn't make this shit up if you tried.

Click---> HERE (http://www.metro.co.uk/news/841752-man-jailed-for-killing-favourite-hamster-in-microwave)

At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

If anyone is interested in cooking an hamster (I'm not) then THIS (http://covertorbit.tripod.com/modern_recipes.htm) website has some recipes.

:twisted: Can't say I agree with the logic you're applying to that :wtf:
If the police find a paedophile then thet'll arrest them, but it's no excuse that "there are worse things I could do so nuking my pet in the microwave just for kicks is alright".
It's like people who get stopped by the police for speeding and ask if the copper "why are you bothering me when there are paedophilles in the world"?
Perhaps because you were breaking the law in broad daylight and not giving a flying ~~~~ who sees you do it? :nuts:
It's a bullshit excuse.
If paedos operated in the street then they would be easy to catch, easy to send down.
Paedos should be punished and punished HARD (strung up by the neck in my book :shrug: ) but you can't use the fact that there are paedophilles at large to lessen a crime like this.

And besides, hasn't there been a proven link that animal cruelty has been a starting point for many people who have gone on to commit much more serious and disgusting crimes :??:
Catching a sick ~~~~er like that before he hurts a child has got to be a good thing in everyone's book surely?

Pudding
24 Sep 2010, 22:38
:twisted: Can't say I agree with the logic you're applying to that :wtf:

Maybe you need to read what I said properly before applying your bullshit nonsense and twisting what I say :nuts:

The Flying Mouse
24 Sep 2010, 22:48
Maybe you need to read what I said properly before applying your bullshit nonsense and twisting what I say :nuts:

:twisted: There is a need to be so offensive because someone disagrees with you?

What part of this statement did I get wrong?


But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

Pudding
24 Sep 2010, 23:18
:twisted: There is a need to be so offensive because someone disagrees with you?

I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me, but adding and twisting what I said on something serious is offensive.

At no point did I say he or anyone who's commited a crime, could use pedophiles walking the street as an excuse to get away with their crime, which is what you've implied I said.

My point is, the punishment doesn't fit the crime when there's more serious crimes that get a lesser punishment or even no punishment at all. That doesn't mean he shouldn't get punished because he should and some serious psychiatric help.

The Flying Mouse
24 Sep 2010, 23:38
I don't mind anyone disagreeing with me, but adding and twisting what I said on something serious is offensive.

At no point did I say he or anyone who's commited a crime, could use pedophiles walking the street as an excuse to get away with their crime, which is what you've implied I said.

My point is, the punishment doesn't fit the crime when there's more serious crimes that get a lesser punishment or even no punishment at all. That doesn't mean he shouldn't get punished because he should and some serious psychiatric help.


:twisted: You better read your first post again then, because that's exactly what it says.


At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

No twists added.

Now if you'd said something like..............



At the end of the day animal cruelty is just wrong, if he wanted to eat the hamster then he should have killed it properly first. But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when convicted child rapists are allowed to walk free with little more than a slap on the wrist is even more wrong.

...............I could agree with that.

Pudding
25 Sep 2010, 00:07
:twisted: You better read your first post again then, because that's exactly what it says.

No it isn't. In your world it may be exactly the same, but in reality it isn't.

But jailing him for microwaving the hamster when there's child rapists walking free is even more wrong.

Nowhere in there do I say that he should get away with what he did and use pedophilia as an excuse. That's nonsense that's come from you not me.

The Flying Mouse
25 Sep 2010, 00:11
:twisted: I have a feeling we could go on all night like this :facepalm:

*Backs slowly out of the room* :bleh:

A Slice Of English
25 Sep 2010, 00:22
I can guarantee you that anyone convicted of child sex offences or rape will most certainly receive a more stringent punishment than this man received.

I work in the child protection arena so believe me, I know.

Pudding
25 Sep 2010, 01:31
:twisted: I have a feeling we could go on all night like this :facepalm:

Or all morning in my case :))

I can guarantee you that anyone convicted of child sex offences or rape will most certainly receive a more stringent punishment than this man received.

I think key word there is 'convicted'. Personally I'm all for a bit of vigilantism when these people aren't successfully convicted :kickass:

A Slice Of English
25 Sep 2010, 01:55
The difficulty in convicting someone is that the evidence has to go beyond any reasonable doubt that it happened. An inherent difficulty with proving sexual offences, particularly historical ones, is that forensic evidence is often lacking and we rely on witness testimony and corroboration to be able to prove things. It can be a lengthy and frustrating process and success is never guaranteed. I subscribe to the opinion that I would do everything in my power to try and prove an offence but at the end of the day, all you can do is gather the facts. It is not my place to judge people, that comes down to those members of the public charged with being a jury. I don't envy them that job.

I would suggest that proving a man microwaved his hamster is a lot easier than proving someone is a paedophile, particularly when you take into account the fact this man admitted his offence whereas the majority of paedophile's are aware that their sexual preference is prohibited and despised and they learn very clever ways of concealing their desires.

A frustrating area to work in, but also fascinating and rewarding. I do not condone vigilantism.

Pudding
25 Sep 2010, 02:24
I do not condone vigilantism.

Unfortunately society is spiralling downwards that fast that that's what will eventually happen. People have had enough of living in fear or having criminals walk free.

A Slice Of English
25 Sep 2010, 02:29
Trouble is, people make judgments without hearing all the facts. they accuse people of being criminals when they haven't been convicted. It's a step away from lawlessness. I doubt very much that the UK will ever become a vigilante state. It just won't happen. That's not to say the criminal justice system is infallible. Clearly it isn't. But it would take something really huge for the general public to rise up in a wave of vigilantism.

Pudding
25 Sep 2010, 02:57
The crime rate in UK alone is rising with vandalism, burglary, violence, drugs etc The Police can't keep up, and when they do the courts don't throw the full weight of the law at them and the prisons are getting full. Something's twisted in society.

How can it be that a country be outraged that a delinquent puts an hamster in microwave, or a cat in a bin, yet old ladies being beaten, mugged and sometimes raped hardly bats an eye-lid?

Alternatively to vigilantism, bring back national service and boot camps for the little b*stards.

A Slice Of English
25 Sep 2010, 09:39
I think you'll find that peoples perception is that crime is on the up but in actual fact, crime rates have fallen pretty much across the board. In Dorset, where I work, the only crime that is up at the moment is burglary and robbery and that can, in part, be explained by the downturn in the economy where such crimes become more commonplace. Serious violent crime is down some 15% and lower level violence is also down around that figure. Overall crime is down 6.4% in Dorset. So people continue to perceive what they want to perceive and the only reason these other crimes go unreported is because the newspapers don't publish them because they're not going to sell papers. Sad but true.

Oh, and crime rates in Dorset have fallen every year for the last 10 years. No doubt someone will suggest that the figures are manipulated but there will always be such conspiracy theorists. I have no hand in totting up the figures, I simply do my best to try and bring them down and to protect children, first and foremost.

GDW
25 Sep 2010, 11:25
You know what they say about statistics.:roll::?:!:

daveake
25 Sep 2010, 11:30
That 99% of statistics are bollox?

GDW
25 Sep 2010, 11:35
Statistically speaking 99.9% on Non Statisticians believe it is 99.999% bollox.:-)

Pudding
25 Sep 2010, 11:55
I think you'll find that peoples perception is that crime is on the up but in actual fact, crime rates have fallen pretty much across the board.

No offence, but Dorset is probably one of the most boring counties in England, crime might be down but I wouldn't be surprised if suicide wasn't up.

But seriously, you're not going to use Dorset as the litmus test on what's happening with the rest of Britain are you?

AndyK
25 Sep 2010, 12:18
Everything I've seen indicates that crime figures are down, unfortunately sensationalised reporting in the press is on the increase, so it seems as if there's more crime than there was 10 years ago because we hear about it more.

~Helen~
25 Sep 2010, 12:21
No offence, but Dorset is probably one of the most boring counties in England, crime might be down but I wouldn't be surprised if suicide wasn't up.

But seriously, you're not going to use Dorset as the litmus test on what's happening with the rest of Britain are you?

I work under the Crime and Disorder Reduction Partnership in a borough near /part of Manchester. I haven't got precise figures to hand right now, but here most crimes have reduced too. Again no figures but I was lead to believe this was the case all over.

Of course people have got to report crimes for them to be recorded, but I'm guessing that's why the stats use 'Serious' crime rather than crime in general. There is probably a reduction in people reporting lower level crime though, due to a perception the Police can't/won't do anything and this maybe affects people's perceptions of crime and safety.

~Helen~
25 Sep 2010, 12:22
Everything I've seen indicates that crime figures are down, unfortunately sensationalised reporting in the press is on the increase, so it seems as if there's more crime than there was 10 years ago because we hear about it more.

Very much that too!

~Helen~
25 Sep 2010, 12:28
Hampster really didnt deserve it, but the guy was drunk. He's probably killing himself inside for killing his favorite hampster. If he wasn't drunk he should burn in hell.

Sorry for multi-posting. I can't multi-quote on my phone.

If that's what he does to his favourite hamster, I'd hate to know what he'd do to his un-favourite hamster!

Oh, and being drunk should not exempt him from any form of punishment!

AndrewG
25 Sep 2010, 13:52
Oh, and being drunk should not exempt him from any form of punishment!

Indeed. If anything his punishment should be worse then imo.

Pudding
26 Sep 2010, 03:40
To be totally honest, I have no problem with the guy if he killed it humanely then ate it. In Peru they eat guinea pigs, in Tonga (and other countries) they eat dogs, China they eat cats and I've killed and cooked rabbit a few times.

But as its been mentioned torturing and killing animals just for fun is a sign of of someone potentially being psychotic and capable of much more serious crimes.

Monstro
26 Sep 2010, 04:17
Oh, and being drunk should not exempt him from any form of punishment!

Indeed. If anything his punishment should be worse then imo.

Really pisses me off when people think because they're pissed they believe it makes it more acceptable, it wasn't their fault etc etc. I'm with Andrew, should cost them more!

Pudding
26 Sep 2010, 09:48
Drink drivers piss me off, and them stupid f*ckers whole put a chip pan on when they're three sheets to the wind and set their house on fire.

Steve6
26 Sep 2010, 15:30
Torturing a harmless animal is sick and people should be locked up for it. Read this story, it's horrific and makes me sooooo angry. One of the worst cases of animal cruelty I've read in a long time. :evil:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dog-put-down-after-fireworks-savagery-2341207.html

Wario
26 Sep 2010, 18:33
Torturing a harmless animal is sick and people should be locked up for it. Read this story, it's horrific and makes me sooooo angry. One of the worst cases of animal cruelty I've read in a long time. :evil:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dog-put-down-after-fireworks-savagery-2341207.html

oh my. That ... that just made me sick

Pudding
26 Sep 2010, 23:12
oh my. That ... that just made me sick

It had my stomach turning that's for sure, absolutely disgraceful behaviour.