Bad Attitude Live isn't being released on DVD despite what Wiki Says!

[Evil One]

Has been announced according to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Attitude_%E2%80%93_Live!

My first reaction is ~~~~ING YES! But I shall be a bit more reserved, as Meat put the brakes on the Wembley '82 reissue.

1. "Bad Attitude" — 5:25 (Paul Jacobs / Sarah Durkee)
2. "Dead Ringer for Love" — 6:43 (Jim Steinman)
3. "Jumping The Gun" — 4:30(Jacobs / Durkee)
4. "Midnight at the Lost and Found" — 4:12 (Paul Christie / Meat Loaf / Steve Buslowe / Dan Peyronel)
5. "I'm Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us" — 9:34 (Steinman)
6. "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" — 16:52 (Steinman)
7. "Nowhere Fast" — 7:08 (Steinman)
8. A Tribute To Wells Kelly - 3:45
9. "Piece of the Action" — 5:10 (Jacobs / Durkee)
10. "All Revved Up with No Place To Go" — 10:25 (Steinman)
11. "Modern Girl" — 6:40 (Jacobs / Durkee)
12. "Two out of Three Ain't Bad" — 8:23 (Steinman)
13. "Bat out of Hell" — 12:02 (Steinman)

DVD Special Features
1. Commentary by Bob Kulick and Meat Loaf
2. Remastered Music Videos of "Modern Girl", "Piece of the Action", "Nowhere Fast", and "Surfs Up"
3. "Modern Girl" (Live on the Tube, 1985)

This news is stolen from the RR. :twisted:

[Monstro]

Remastered Music Video of "Surfs Up"


About bloody time that was available!!!!!

[Wario]

omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomg :D:D:D

[duke knooby]

hopefully it happens

[LucyK!]

Has been announced according to Wikipedia...

How reliable is that? My general rule is I don't trust Wiki as far as I could chuck it :?

[AndyK]

Very dubous, nothing on Eagle Rocks website about a forthcoming release, nothing too substantial on WIkipedia to match Eagle Rock's other forthcoming releases. Certainly falls into the category of beleive when I see it, even if I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

[SW31]

cool

[Evil One]

It's been updated by someone calling themselves RoadRunnerChest, the same entity who added the details for the Wembley '82 DVD. It can't possibly be Wario pissing about because there's no spelling mistakes. :lol:

[LisaT]

It can't possibly be Wario pissing about because there's no spelling mistakes. :lol:

:lmao: Love it!

[melon]

Nice, I hope its true.

[AndyK]

Don't get your hopes up on this DVD release folks. Looks very much like another red herring. Sadly the net is too full of people who waste their time and talents with hoaxes. Is it any wonder the likes of Wikipedia has got such a terrible reputation for accuracy?

Bob Kulick has heard nothing about this, he hasn't recorded any commentary and has no current plans to do so.

[JennaG]

I knew that I was right not to bother getting excited about this although it would be nice to have it on DVD.

Unfortunately this means that I'm going to be more skeptical about new releases/re-releases until I actually see them for sale.

[AndrewG]

No offence to Wario but I found it a pretty damn crazy coincidence to see the Wiki listing for the London 82 show DVD release to be added on the exact same day that Wario posted on this very forum that he heard a rumour it was going to be released from some friend at his local Blockbuster store. :roll:

If true though, maybe they got some guy to impersonate Bob Kulick and Meat Loaf's voices. :lol:

We would be within our right to dispute the article or even make amendments as the line "it has been announced" is just completely vague if there is no corresponding source or info from Eagle Rock Entertainment itself. I would go as far as to change it to "Rumour has it" and see what Mr/Mrs RoadRunnerChest does in response if I could be bothered.

[Evil One]

The optimist in me would suggest that perhaps Bob recorded something at the time that is being used as commentary. The realist in me realises it was stupid to get excited about this. Fans of other artists get good quality live stuff. Meat Loaf fans have to make do with crappily produced efforts like the Rockpalast DVD and the Wembley '87 CD or poor shows like 3 Bats Live. :bicker:

[AndrewG]

What's even more strange is that for example a DVD that IS coming out soon and another that has already been released a few years ago by Jeff Beck on Eagle Rock don't get their own listing pages at all. So I really wonder who this RoadRunnerChest individual is, certainly not a representative of Eagle Rock by the looks of it. This inconsistency does not make any sense.

[Evil One]

I wondered about that when Wembley '82 was announced as there was no hoohaa made surrounding the released of the Rockpalast DVD.

[AndyK]

Very dubous, nothing on Eagle Rocks website about a forthcoming release, nothing too substantial on Wikipedia to match Eagle Rock's other forthcoming releases. Certainly falls into the category of beleive when I see it, even if I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

What's even more strange is that for example a DVD that IS coming out soon and another that has already been released a few years ago by Jeff Beck on Eagle Rock don't get their own listing pages at all. So I really wonder who this RoadRunnerChest individual is, certainly not a representative of Eagle Rock by the looks of it. This inconsistency does not make any sense.

There's an echo round here :)) :lmao:

If Bob had recorded some sort of commentary at the time then he would have been years ahead of his time since those things didn't happen then in the days before DVD, he had nothing to do with the recording at the time (the show was co-produced by the BBC for broadcast on the TV as a Whistke Test Special hence the tickets for the night being issued for free from the BBC Ticketing unit in London).

[AndrewG]

I've changed the page.

[AndrewG]

If Bob had recorded some sort of commentary at the time then he would have been years ahead of his time since those things didn't happen then in the days before DVD...

That's what I was thinking too.

[MeatGrl1]

I absolutely love this concert and feel it's worthey of a re-vamped DVD release but like many above me I just cannot get excited because the source is known to be so unreliable and often false so until it comes from either Meat or a more trustworthey source I'll take this for what it is, just a rumour :roll: !!

[Evil One]

If it is a piss take, then the detail present in both this and the previous entry gives me an inkling of where to point the finger. :shock:

[AndrewG]

I find this very fishy to be honest. The RoadRunnerChest Wiki account was created on the same day a certain individual posted this (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15474&highlight=meat+loaf+live).
Can I really believe that an employer at Blockbuster just happened to be browsing the net, stumbled upon the wiki page which just had been created that day, told one of his employees and then that employee texted his friend who just happened to be awake at 6.30am, our certain individual here all on the same day in the space of several hours. BTW this apparently all happened whilst it is the middle of the night in the USA. :sherlock:

I'm starting to get the impression that when Meat posted "I put a stop to that being released" it was perhaps something more generic about that recording ever surfacing again rather than it being a response to the deletion of the rumoured Eagle Rock DVD.

[AndyK]

My finger was pointing as soon as I read your first post Evil One, and it wasn't pointing at you ;-)

[AndrewG]

I've sent an email to Eagle Rock with the links and asked them to verify these releases.

[Sarge]

2. Remastered Music Videos of "Modern Girl", "Piece of the Action", "Nowhere Fast", and "Surfs Up"

There is a music video for Piece Of The Action? The only "video" I know is a scene from Der Formel Eins Film in which Meat performs that song.

That and the fact that the alleged content rather appears like a fan's wishful thinking than something that's likely to appear on an official DVD are only two of the reasons why I'm suspcious of that announcement. It would be great if Bad Attitude Live would be re-released this way but I really doubt that.

Fans of other artists get good quality live stuff. Meat Loaf fans have to make do with crappily produced efforts like the Rockpalast DVD and the Wembley '87 CD or poor shows like 3 Bats Live. :bicker:

I agree. Bad Attitude Live and Live with the MSO (the DVD) are the only excellent official releases of Meat Loaf live performances so far, in my opinion (though BA is a bit short).
The Live / In Concert video is okay but does not show Meat in his prime.
3 Bats Live is cool as long as you watch the fantastic band but do not pay that much attention to Meat as he apparently is not in good shape and doesn't seem to enjoy being on stage that night. It's really a pity because technically and with regard to content it's a good release (I bought the special edition incl. In Search Of Paradise and some merch and it wasn't that expensive). If Meat's performance had been better it would have been a great DVD.
Live at Rockpalast / Bat Out Of Hell The Original Tour: One of the rare documents of the Bat I era but many fans seem to be dissatisfied with the sound quality. I think Eagle Rock could have done a slightly better job on that and some other things, I have other Rockpalast DVDs in which they obviously put more effort and ethusiasm. All in all it's not that bad but maybe it could have been better.

And what have we gotten with regard to CDs so far?

- Live: Good performance but short and a product of the 1980s, the sound quality doesn't knock my socks off.
- Live Around The World: Nice compilation of songs from all periods of Meat's career as a singer, aside from the annoying, repetive crowd noise they felt the urge to put on each track. Not available anymore, doesn't show up on eBay often either.
- Bat Out Of Hell Live with the MSO: Another good release, unfortunately it consists only of the Bat I songs (+ Anything and CHSIB, depending on the release).
- The live CD from the Bat II Collectors Edition: Again Bat I songs only (+ Anything). :roll:
- 3 Bats Live: The only Meat Loaf live album I have avoided so far. It always appeared like a by-product of the DVD to me. Strange song selection, cheap appearance.
- Casa De Carne Live Album: Pretty good compilation, aside from the disproportionate crowd noise that spoils the atmosphere and the fact that I have to skip Anything.

So what's available with regard to official live recordings to the Meat Loaf fan these days? One DVD that provides good video as well as audio quality and a good performance (MSO) and a handful of CDs most of which aren't bad but lack something nonetheless.

So what does the fan do? Look for live stuff on the web - until a red pony comes galopping along, trampling down many a treasure... ;)

If I had the missing footage of the BA show as well as decent versions of the Nowhere Fast and Surf's Up videos and the right to publish the stuff, I'd be happy to put out such a DVD. :-) There is not that much footage on the market that provides an overview of Meat Loaf's career over the years. What you currently find on the shelves is Rockpalast (1978 ), MSO (2004) and 3 Bats (2007). The 1980s and 1990s are entirely missing, so two decades of Meat Loaf as a live performer aren't available. It's about time for a Meat Loaf DVD that provides great quality with regard to content, picture, sound and performance.

[Evil One]

You forgot Storytellers, which is probably the best thing to do with it! :lol:

[Evil One]

Roadrunnerchest has now edited the Meat Loaf Live CD page. Now I know it has to be bullshit, as Road Runner and Eagle Rock aren't the same thing. :roll:

Remastered Extended Two-Disk Release
Roadrunner Records have announced plans to release this record as a two disk collectors set. Remastering the original soundboard tracks, December 2011 will bring Meat fans the Live CD They always dreamed.

Disk1


"Blind Before I Stop" – 3:54
"Rock 'n' Roll Mercenaries" – 5:33
"You Took the Words Right out of My Mouth" – 7:49
"Midnight at the Lost and Found" – 3:43
"Modern Girl" – 5:44
"Paradise by the Dashboard Light" – 10:04
"Two out of Three Ain't Bad" – 8:06
"Bat out of Hell" – 10:29
"Masculine" – 6:50
"Rock 'n' Roll Medley" – 8:34

"Johnny B. Goode"
"Jailhouse Rock"
"Slow Down"
"Blue Suede Shoes"
"Johnny B. Goode" (Reprise)

Disk 2: Extra Content


"Execution Day" – 7:41
"Burning Down" – 9:45
"Dead Ringer For Love – 8:17
"All Revved Up With No Place To Go" – 14:23
"Paradise by the Dashboard Light" [Unedited Version] – 22:12
"Bat out of Hell" [Unedited Version] – 12:43

[AndrewG]

Who is this rumour spreading liar then? :kickass:

[Evil One]

If it was being remastered, they wouldn't keep the same edits as in the original.

Take a guess at who would do this and you'll be right first time. :roll:

[Sarge]

Meat's been around a while, but that statement is pushing it a bit isn't it? :lmao:

Meat did some really awesome shows between 1985 and the time when he got rid of his long hair. It's a pity that nothing is available from the time that has shaped the image many people have of Meat Loaf. ;)

You forgot Storytellers, which is probably the best thing to do with it! :lol:

Oops! :oops: Storytellers is not bad, unfortunately it's not a "real" concert and lacks atmosphere and it's not my favorite NLE lineup. Meat does a great job though.

[Dave]

Roadrunner Records have announced plans to release this record as a two disk collectors set. Remastering the original soundboard tracks, December 2011 will bring Meat fans the Live CD They always dreamed

Some may have dreamed this, but not me. This would not be this Meat Loaf fan's dream show to be released at all.

[AndrewG]

If this is true then I think that deserves an outright ban. I find this stuff completely pathetic at the expense of innocent curious fans. Attention whoring people posting this type of misinformation have no place on fan forums regardless if this is posted elsewhere in my opinion.

[Evil One]

Some may have dreamed this, but not me. This would not be this Meat Loaf fan's dream show to be released at all.Nor mine. I wouldn't say no to a remaster, but I don't dream of such a thing. :bleh:

[AndrewG]

I think it would be much more likely we would see a re-release/remaster of MSO than this thing. Usually when they remaster/re-release something it's going to be that artists' most famous/best sold or most recent-related work rather than the bits and pieces only hardcore fans know about. :shrug:

[Sarge]

Roadrunner Records have announced plans to release this record as a two disk collectors set. Remastering the original soundboard tracks, December 2011 will bring Meat fans the Live CD They always dreamed.


The tracklist contains stuff that is usually released by Sony. Roadrunner Records belong to Warner, as far as I know. :??: And look at the wording... :wtf:

[AndyK]

Haven't we wasted enough bandwidth discussing the work (and I use the word loosely) of this attention seeking bandwidth whore now? He must be laughing into his milk and choking on his Oreos.

[Evil One]

Oops! :oops: Storytellers is not bad, unfortunately it's not a "real" concert and lacks atmosphere and it's not my favorite NLE lineup. Meat does a great job though.
I have three problems with the Storytellers DVD, in increasing order:

1) Meat has a cold. You can tell he's putting the effort in, but it's still noticeable.
2) The lack of atmosphere as you've already pointed out.
3) The totally shite mixing job. There is far too much bass and the balance is off, more sound is mixed to the left channel than the right.

[allrevvedup]

I have three problems with the Storytellers DVD, in increasing order:

1) Meat has a cold. You can tell he's putting the effort in, but it's still noticeable.


didn't know that, there were a few songs on that DVD/CD that i didn't worked as well , more than you deserve being one of them, but the version of Rock n Roll dreams is really good and I liked the intense look on Sir Loaf's face during Bat

[Sarge]

but the version of Rock n Roll dreams is really good

One of my favorite performances of that song.

[Evil One]

Mine too. I wish it had made it to the CD. All the DVD songs sound better on the CD! :shrug:

Actually Storytellers would benefit from a good remaster. I bet there's hours of random chatter that some on here would swoon over. :lol: Also there's a performance of No Matter What that didn't make the final cut.

[Wario]

Mine too. I wish it had made it to the CD. All the DVD songs sound better on the CD! :shrug:

Actually Storytellers would benefit from a good remaster. I bet there's hours of random chatter that some on here would swoon over. :lol: Also there's a performance of No Matter What that didn't make the final cut.

Im still wondering where HCW on the CD was recorded

[Evil One]

It was done before the show as a soundcheck. Why don't you update Wikipedia with that? :roll:

[Wario]

It was done before the show as a soundcheck.

thought so. same with bat too i think

[Dave]

thought so. same with bat too i think

This is getting to be very off topic now; however, stop with the speculating. The record is very clear in regard to how the Storytellers taping went. There were some things recorded before the audience was let in for the taping. There was nearly five hours of footage recorded, as was well documented by people who are still on this board. There were songs performed multiple times and songs that did not make the final cut. All of the speculating about the "if only" over things that the reality is known do a great deal to lower the rent value of the whole forum here.

[Wario]

This is getting to be very off topic now; however, stop with the speculating. The record is very clear in regard to how the Storytellers taping went. There were some things recorded before the audience was let in for the taping. There was nearly five hours of footage recorded, as was well documented by people who are still on this board. There were songs performed multiple times and songs that did not make the final cut. All of the speculating about the "if only" over things that the reality is known do a great deal to lower the rent value of the whole forum here.

youre right it is off topic. sorry. but speculatong is fun. and its what fans are expected to do. I know the truth about storytellers, but deep down i fantasize and speculate that meat used fairy dust and made everyone forget he also played masculine too. its fun.

As for BALIVE DVD, this was an elaborate April fools day prank in the making. It was originally gonna be wembley '82 but meat ruined it.

Its all ruined now. I made fake boxart, planned a huge fake article and was making a fake web page. I made the wiki edit early so my prank wouldnt be too obvious, cause the page has an edit history and if it was edited two days before i posted the webpage here youd all know it was me.

The Webpage was gonna say "BAD ATTITUDE LIVE COMING TO DVD APRIL 21st, 2011" there was gonna be a tab for HD Screenshots and everything (making BA screenshots look HD was hard lol).

in the "Pre-Order Here" tab it was gonna say APRIL FOOLS with the video of me lynching california

Guess for april fools I'll have to figure something else out.

[Evil One]

As for BALIVE DVD, this was an elaborate April fools day prank in the makingAs I said elsewhere, the best word to use for you is ~~~~er. :wacko:

There were some things recorded before the audience was let in for the taping. There was nearly five hours of footage recorded, as was well documented by people who are still on this board. There were songs performed multiple times and songs that did not make the final cut.So as I said further up this bunch of nonsense, a remaster of this show would be interesting. :twisted:

[AndrewG]

There's a difference between posting an April's fool's day joke and acting like a post whoring spamming nutcase. There's nothing wrong with fantasying over potential future releases as we often do on this forum but trying to con people, especially those who probably don't have time to actually investigate if it is true or false makes me sick. I regret sticking up for Mr. KnobEnd and the deletion of his YouTube videos. If you do stuff like this you deserve to get your ass chucked off SEVERAL websites in my opinion.

[Dave]

I think it is time for a lock as the lie has been exposed for what it is. I hate locking threads and even think it is time.

[Sarge]

As I said elsewhere, the best word to use for you is ~~~~er. :wacko:

I don't even know what to say about that kind of... er... leisure activity. :roll: