MEAT WALK OF FAME...CONSENT?

[kkzag]

Thanks Suz for posting the link to nominate Meat for the Walk of Fame!!

I was filling it out...and in VERY small print it says:

"All applicants must have written consent from celebrity stating nominee is in agreement with nomination"....

HOW do we get THAT??

P.S.
I wouldn't mind picking it up from you personally Meat...in July!! ;)

Kar

[Wario]

well we have verbal consent....

[Monstro]

Or ask him to post it here or on facebook or .com

[kkzag]

Or ask him to post it here or on facebook or .com

or he can just give it to me....:lol: :lol:

I'll scan and post!

;)

Kar

[Monstro]

Ok, there may be some concern in the Meat camp that people might be taking this a tad serious, best advice is to wait and see what happens as it's not as simple as sending a load of emails/letters/requests etc, there's also a $30,000 fee that has to be paid.

Please don't "jump the gun" (pun intended lol), there will more than likely be an update on this soon from the Meat camp.

[melon]

I think Meat would rather $30,000 go to the Painted turtle rather than "Buy" him an award that he deserves to be awarded, not bought.

[loaferman61]

I think Meat would rather $30,000 go to the Painted turtle rather than "Buy" him an award that he deserves to be awarded, not bought.

I absolutely agree. Meat doesn't seem too interested in awards and what critics say like some performers are. I believe he'd rather support a charity.

[melon]

Just what I think.

[kkzag]

Sorry...misunderstood the 30K part...:oops:

I agree with the $ going to painted turtle...I bought "not so lil john"...for charity. My youngest is 8!

Kar

[melon]

So did I, & I'll be buying Standing in the Storm as soon as I can!

[GDW]

I'm sure Jim Steinman would pay the $30000 if asked.:lol:

[melon]

I'm sure Jim Steinman would pay the $30000 if asked.:lol:

Pfft, in what universe?

[The Flying Mouse]

I think Meat would rather $30,000 go to the Painted turtle rather than "Buy" him an award that he deserves to be awarded, not bought.

I absolutely agree. Meat doesn't seem too interested in awards and what critics say like some performers are. I believe he'd rather support a charity.

:twisted: I can't say I agree with that train of thought.
Meat already does a lot for charity in terms of promotion and fundraising.


Saying the 30 grand is better off going to PT is like saying "I should buy an escort instead of a porche because I can give the rest of the money to PT".
Or "screw the mansion, i'll have a 2 bedroom flat so I can give the rest of the money to PT".
If you kept on like that you would have a crisis of conscience every time you bought something for yourself. :panic:

Meat may well believe that 30k in loose change would be better off going to PT than on something he wanted for himself, but i'm of the viewpoint that if it's something he wants (and why the hell not?), and he's got the cash to splash, I say go for it :shrug:
He's sure as hell earned it.

It may be a bit of an extravagance, but to quote that classic movie American Yakuza again :mrgreen: .......

"If all I wanted was what I need, i'd be living in a cardboard box with a blow up doll".

[melon]

:twisted: I can't say I agree with that train of thought.

And I can't say I agree with yours.

[A Slice Of English]

And I can't say I agree with yours.

I can!

[The Flying Mouse]

And I can't say I agree with yours.

:twisted: No problem :mrgreen:

But to bring the same situation to a personal level, if it were a choice between buy Meat's next album (which I can live very well without, and is therefore an extravagance) and putting the money to a worthy cause, sorry, but i'll be buying the album for myself.

[melon]

:twisted: No problem :mrgreen:

But to bring the same situation to a personal level, if it were a choice between buy Meat's next album (which I can live very well without, and is therefore an extravagance) and putting the money to a worthy cause, sorry, but i'll be buying the album for myself.

I do see your point here though :twisted:

But I think it boils down to the person/situation (As obiously, no CD is $30,000), & is what formed my opinion of what Meat would most likely rather.

[The Flying Mouse]

As obiously, no CD is $30,000

:twisted: But a homeless guy could have a couple of decent meals if I gave him the money rather than spend it on the CD.
Or for £2 a month I can help fund better living conditions for kids in Africa.

Meat is on a couple of £/$ more than me, so that's why I use that comparison :wink:

My point is that any ammount of money (no matter how large or small) can be put to charitable use.

I like to think i've done my fair share of charity work, so should I feel guilty that I spend money on personal luxuiesI can live without?


I certainly don't believe it's anyone intention, but if I were in Meat's shoes and I wanted to spend the money on the walk of fame, i'd feel like a heel if I came on my fansite and saw people saying things like "no way Mousie will pay that, he's a nice guy who'll give the money to charity".

No way in hell could I spend that money on the walk of fame after reading that.No matter how much I wanted it.

So i'm here to say to Meat, you've earned it, you deserve it, and if it's something you want, get it :mrgreen:

[CarylB]

My perspective of Meat is that he has many awards, and the one he really values is his precious Grammy, which he earned. I agree completely with those who say he's not the man who'd particularly value an award which is essentially purchased provided youmeet some simple criteria .. that's my view. If he wanted to get his management committee to send off a nomination with the promise of his cheque if selected, of course he'd be entitled to do so. How he spends his money is absolutely his own business, but personally I doubt he'd place significant value on an award gained this way. I think this is the point people are making; not that he wouldn't deserve recognition. I certainly don't believe he'd expect or indeed want his fans to contribute. He probably takes more honour in being a member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, a responsibility he takes seriously.

I also don't think what he said was in any way intended to kick-start a collection .. lol, and agree with those who say he'd be more likely to say, "Kids .. if you have a few spare dollars? Please, send them to Painted Turtle!"

His answer on the video to the question asked wasn't "Please nominate me", and imo was more a droll response as he was rushing to catch a plane, because any email to the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce would get the simple reply that anyone can nominate a performer for a star, providing they have a signed promise of acceptance from that person and acknowledge responsibility for the fee.

Caryl

[JaysScout]

"So i'm here to say to Meat, you've earned it, you deserve it, and if it's something you want, get it. "

Much like the Rock & Roll HOF, he has earned it and he deserves it......but I doubt he loses a minute of sleep over not having either The Star, or the R&R HOF. Judging by his reaction to possibly losing the $ for the Painted Turtle on Celebrity Apprentice, I'm pretty sure I know where his priorities lie. :) He WOULD have lost sleep over that!

[CarylB]

Much like the Rock & Roll HOF, he has earned it and he deserves it......but I doubt he loses a minute of sleep over not having either The Star, or the R&R HOF. Judging by his reaction to possibly losing the $ for the Painted Turtle on Celebrity Apprentice, I'm pretty sure I know where his priorities lie. :) He WOULD have lost sleep over that!

Absolutely in accord with all of that :-) Imo he'd more likely lose sleep over a single missed note in last night's concert than not having a Star or being in the HoF ;)

Just don't take his Grammy ... or his Childe Hassam ;)

Caryl

[Wario]

What he may lose sleep over is if he were to get a star on the walk of fame, they would most likley spell his name as "Meatloaf" XD

[suzieq]

I like to think i've done my fair share of charity work, so should I feel guilty that I spend money on personal luxuries I can live without?

I certainly don't believe it's anyone intention, but if I were in Meat's shoes and I wanted to spend the money on the walk of fame, i'd feel like a heel if I came on my fansite and saw people saying things like "no way Mousie will pay that, he's a nice guy who'll give the money to charity".

No way in hell could I spend that money on the walk of fame after reading that.No matter how much I wanted it.

I agree.

So i'm here to say to Meat, you've earned it, you deserve it, and if it's something you want, get it :mrgreen:

Perfectly said.

Meat is a giver by nature. He would need no justification in my book if he wanted a star vs. donating that money to his charity. Perspective: Don't Forget the Lyrics alone brought in $500,000 and $30,000 is a little less than 7% of that.

How he spends his money is absolutely his own business, but personally I doubt he'd place significant value on an award gained this way. I think this is the point people are making; not that he wouldn't deserve recognition. I certainly don't believe he'd expect or indeed want his fans to contribute. He probably takes more honour in being a member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, a responsibility he takes seriously.



I don't follow. By what way? It's just a bunch of ideas being thrown around.

I rather think he takes all his responsibilities seriously, not just being a member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

I just think that the fans would like to see a Star on the Walk of Fame for him, and it seems attainable compared to the more corrupt politics of the R&R HOF, now whether or not he wants one is unclear. Naw, he's not losing sleep over it. But I agree, I don't think he knows what is involved to get one. Especially since emailing The Chamber is not an option at all. LOL.

1. being the consent by Meat or his management
2. being $30,000 funds guaranteed.

otherwise filling in the paperwork is a snap, a brief Bio, picture and off it goes. I guess we'll find out when Camp Loaf elaborates a little.

[Monstro]

I guess we'll find out when Camp Loaf elaborates a little.

Exactly, and until then everything is just speculation.

[CarylB]

Exactly, and until then everything is just speculation.

Amen to that ;)

Caryl

[melon]

What he may lose sleep over is if he were to get a star on the walk of fame, they would most likley spell his name as "Meatloaf" XD

lmao, yep.... I'd lose sleep over that!

[Steve6]

The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame now this.... :yep:

[kkzag]

My intentions were nothing but good....

Hate how $$$ always comes into the mix of everything.

I would LOVE someday...to take my kids and/or grand-kids to see my FAVORITE incerdiblly TALENTED ARTIST/MUSICIAN on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

MEAT LOAF has earned his place in the Hall of Fame...and Walk of Fame...and in my opinion...HEART OF FAME!

Can't wait till JULY...it's a proven fact singing/dancing releases endorphins that make us feel "good". Really need a dose of endorphins right NOW! :(


CONGRATS MEAT...you did an AMAZING job on CA...and you are always a hall/walk/heart of famer in MY book!!!

Kar

[melon]

My intentions were nothing but good....

Hate how $$$ always comes into the mix of everything.

I would LOVE someday...to take my kids and/or grand-kids to see my FAVORITE incerdiblly TALENTED ARTIST/MUSICIAN on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

MEAT LOAF has earned his place in the Hall of Fame...and Walk of Fame...and in my opinion...HEART OF FAME!

Can't wait till JULY...it's a proven fact singing/dancing releases endorphins that make us feel "good". Really need a dose of endorphins right NOW! :(


CONGRATS MEAT...you did an AMAZING job on CA...and you are always a hall/walk/heart of famer in MY book!!!

Kar

I agree whole heartedly

[kkzag]

I agree whole heartedly


TY Mel

[melon]

Its dumb..... I hate money..... no wait, hang on, I hate...... oh dang.

[The Flying Mouse]

Hate how $$$ always comes into the mix of everything.


:twisted: That's just the way it works unfortunatly :sad:
Besides, if you've got to pay you've got to pay, does that change your opinions of everyone else who has ever shelled out for it?

I think Meat's record comapany should fork out.
It'd be a great piece of promotion, and would raise his profile, especially after CA coming to a close.



I would LOVE someday...to take my kids and/or grand-kids to see my FAVORITE incerdiblly TALENTED ARTIST/MUSICIAN on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Agreed 100% 8)
I'd get a kick out of seeing Meat's star and having a picture of me standing by it.




MEAT LOAF has earned his place in the Hall of Fame

Hell yeah.........


and Walk of Fame...

Damn straight.........




and in my opinion...HEART OF FAME!


OK, we're getting a little Princess Di now :wtf:
But you had me till there :yep:

[melon]

I think Meat's record comapany should fork out.
It'd be a great piece of promotion, and would raise his profile, especially after CA coming to a close.


But do ya think that'd ever happen??

[The Flying Mouse]

But do ya think that'd ever happen??

:twisted: Only on the the day that Satan ice skates to work past a bear who has left the woods to take a shit, the pope's entire hat collection appears on e bay and he comes out as actually being quite jewish.

Just because I think they should does not mean I think they ever would. :wink:
Hell, they don't even believe in putting a single on a store shelf :facepalm:

Beau Peep has more prospect of promotion that Meat.

[loaferman61]

:twisted: I can't say I agree with that train of thought.
Meat already does a lot for charity in terms of promotion and fundraising.


Saying the 30 grand is better off going to PT is like saying "I should buy an escort instead of a porche because I can give the rest of the money to PT".
Or "screw the mansion, i'll have a 2 bedroom flat so I can give the rest of the money to PT".
If you kept on like that you would have a crisis of conscience every time you bought something for yourself. :panic:

Meat may well believe that 30k in loose change would be better off going to PT than on something he wanted for himself, but i'm of the viewpoint that if it's something he wants (and why the hell not?), and he's got the cash to splash, I say go for it :shrug:
He's sure as hell earned it.

It may be a bit of an extravagance, but to quote that classic movie American Yakuza again :mrgreen: .......

"If all I wanted was what I need, i'd be living in a cardboard box with a blow up doll".
I am just saying I do not see Meat as self-aggrandizing. I'm sure he can afford any thing he wants. If he were given the choice between some "walk of fame" and giving $30K to PT, especially after viewing 'Apprentice" I have to believe he'd want it to go to PT. I could be wrong, but I think he has all the fame already and does need to prove that.

[CarylB]

I am just saying I do not see Meat as self-aggrandizing. I'm sure he can afford any thing he wants. If he were given the choice between some "walk of fame" and giving $30K to PT, especially after viewing 'Apprentice" I have to believe he'd want it to go to PT. I could be wrong, but I think he has all the fame already and does need to prove that.

That's how I see him too :-)

I was talking to their office in California this afternoon, and they were saying how wonderful he is, how grateful they are for his fundraising on CA, what a personal interest he takes, and how incredibly warm and caring he is.

Awards given by his industry, film or music, which are given in recognitition of his work .. I'd think they'd bring a tear to his eye. But as for the rest? .. I believe he has more tears for the children Painted Turtle helps :-)

Caryl

[The Flying Mouse]

If he were given the choice between some "walk of fame" and giving $30K to PT, especially after viewing 'Apprentice" I have to believe he'd want it to go to PT.

:twisted: He may very well prefer it, but I don't pretend to know what Meat thinks.

Again, i'm not trying to offend anyone by saying this, but I feel that statements like the one above project an ideal on Meat, a fan conjoured image that Meat has to live up to, and I personally don't think it's quite fair to do that on a fansite he reads.
I'm not saying it's anyones intention to make Meat feel bad or pressured into being a singing dancing wand waving wish granting saint, i'm just saying the pressure is there all the same when people project their expectations of him.

Has there ever been any indication that Meat intends making a choice between spending 30 grand on the walk of fame or giving it to PT? No, so the whole thing is hypothetical anyway.

I just refuse to applaud him or crucify him over a hypothetical question that is nobodys business but Meat's.

I merely suggest that if it's something that he wants, he should treat himself to it because he's earned it, and he has no need to feel guilty about spending his own money on something that will bring him pleasure.

And again, I don't pretend what Meat thinks, but he's going to be a grandfather, and wouldn't it be one hell of a kick for his grandkids to see that star and tell people "that's my grandad" :mrgreen:


I could be wrong, but I think he has all the fame already and does need to prove that.

I doubt many people have paid the walk of fame because they throught they weren't famous enough.

[kkzag]

We think alike mouse...ok except for the "princess di" part!

LOL!
:)

[AndyK]

Like everything else it boils down to money, yet the public perception (which is one that is propogated bythe controlling organisation) of such things as the walk of fame and the RnR Hall Of Fame is that they are great honours for the artist who is inducted, concreted into a pavement, or whatever. Just two more examples of what is so wrong with the world. Give Meat another Grammy or an Oscar any day over something that pretends to be one thing when in reality is another.

If I had $30k going spare, I'd set about getting my own star included in the walk of fame, just to show how ludicrous it all is.

[loaferman61]

:twisted: He may very well prefer it, but I don't pretend to know what Meat thinks.

Again, i'm not trying to offend anyone by saying this, but I feel that statements like the one above project an ideal on Meat, a fan conjoured image that Meat has to live up to, and I personally don't think it's quite fair to do that on a fansite he reads.
I'm not saying it's anyones intention to make Meat feel bad or pressured into being a singing dancing wand waving wish granting saint, i'm just saying the pressure is there all the same when people project their expectations of him.

Has there ever been any indication that Meat intends making a choice between spending 30 grand on the walk of fame or giving it to PT? No, so the whole thing is hypothetical anyway.

I just refuse to applaud him or crucify him over a hypothetical question that is nobodys business but Meat's.

I merely suggest that if it's something that he wants, he should treat himself to it because he's earned it, and he has no need to feel guilty about spending his own money on something that will bring him pleasure.

And again, I don't pretend what Meat thinks, but he's going to be a grandfather, and wouldn't it be one hell of a kick for his grandkids to see that star and tell people "that's my grandad" :mrgreen:




I doubt many people have paid the walk of fame because they throught they weren't famous enough.
Geez dude, I justy had an opinion which I based off him crying over PT on CA. It's an opinion for heaven's sake. I personally don't give a damn if you all spend a million bucks to put his picture on the moon. It's a discussion forum, now I'm projecting an ideal on Meat? Jeez Louise. This place makes you want to leave at times. I think I'm due a break before I project anything else onto Meat since I have so much influence. Crap almighty!!

[loaferman61]

Again, i'm not trying to offend anyone by saying this,



And you have epic failed at it then. You describe yourself as a ba$tard by your avatar.

[loaferman61]

:twisted: Only on the the day that Satan ice skates to work past a bear who has left the woods to take a shit, the pope's entire hat collection appears on e bay and he comes out as actually being quite jewish.



He may very well prefer it, but I don't pretend to know what Satan thinks. Thanks for the jewish slur BTW, stay classy.

[The Flying Mouse]

And you have epic failed at it then. You describe yourself as a ba$tard by your avatar.

:twisted: For someone who says they don't care you seem to be very emotionally invested in this.
I've tried to make my point in a polite and respectful manner.
You are the one being aggressive and abusive.

Yes it says "armed ba$tard" on my custom title.
It's a Gene Hunt quote.

My avatar is also a picture of Philip Glenister in the role of Gene Hunt.
That doesn't make me Gene Hunt :bleh:


He may very well prefer it, but I don't pretend to know what Satan thinks. Thanks for the jewish slur BTW, stay classy.

Jewish slur? :rly:

If you think paraphrasing the saying "is the pope a catholic" to make a point is a "jewish slur", you are very much mistaken
You might as well call the RSPCA because i've been making derogatory statements on the toilet habits of bears :wtf:

Feel free to take that break until you can post in a cool, calm, and rational manner.


Is there any subject left to this thread?

[LucyK!]

Is there any subject left to this thread?

No, which is a shame as it started as a perfectly normal conversation

[The Flying Mouse]

No, which is a shame as it started as a perfectly normal conversation

:twisted: Agreed, on both counts.
It was a nice normal conversation until the hypothetical game of "what would Meat do?".

Think this thread should be put to bed without it's tea :lock: