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I put this in general messages cause this will effect meat:
http://smarthouse.com.au/Real_Sound/Industry/N6R5K9D5
Monstro
09 Nov 2011, 20:33
One obscure article in the Australian press does not a reality make.
Fact is that in the last year physical sales have exceeded download sales.
Moved to off topic as it doesn't effect Meat lol
Sebastian.
09 Nov 2011, 20:37
The GP tour has taught me that the Austalian press is mostly BS.
It better not be real, it's not that long since I found out they don't do VHS anymore!!! I can't take any more change!
loaferman61
09 Nov 2011, 21:56
CD and DVD will go by the wayside sometime in the next 3 to 5 years. Video will primarily be streaming with popular titles. If you limit yourself to legal downloads physical CD's may still outsell digital, but only if you place that qualifier on it. Otherwise, no way digital does not crush physical discs. This is why the music industry has fallen off, they failed to adapt with the times and what people want. Companies like Amazon and Netflix are trying not to make that mistake with video. If you check most DVD and CD titles at Amazon it will tell only a few copies are in stock. They don't want to be stuck with them.
I put this in general messages cause this will effect meat:
http://smarthouse.com.au/Real_Sound/Industry/N6R5K9D5
That will suck if that happens:( Especially for Meat! I hope all music won't just go to itunes either. I don't have an iPhone or iPod, and just have a normal mp3 player. Can't say I'll pay big money for an iPod neither.
Anyway I hope it doesn't happen, but with technology these days, it is inevitable:(
That will suck if that happens:( Especially for Meat! I hope all music won't just go to itunes either. I don't have an iPhone or iPod, and just have a normal mp3 player. Can't say I'll pay big money for an iPod neither.
Anyway I hope it doesn't happen, but with technology these days, it is inevitable:(
The GP tour has taught me that the Austalian press is mostly BS.
Couldn't agree more mate!! Our press down here, especially during Meat's tour, are complete arses:evil: If it ain't good enough to print, then they add their spin just to sell a damn paper!:( They don't give a shit about who they hurt or who's reputation they hurt in the long run either:(:evil: Anyone would think that their shit doesn't stink, the way they carry on and treat people:(
It better not be real, it's not that long since I found out they don't do VHS anymore!!! I can't take any more change!
He he he, I feel the same way lol! It takes me long enough to work out how to use the new technology they have today. It took me long enough to learn how to do the basics on this site. Although I'm still learning though:?:-)
Really hope it's not true, it will be a sad day for music when that happens.
Carole
Julie in the rv mirror
09 Nov 2011, 23:48
That will suck if that happens:( Especially for Meat! I hope all music won't just go to itunes either. I don't have an iPhone or iPod, and just have a normal mp3 player. Can't say I'll pay big money for an iPod neither.
Anyway I hope it doesn't happen, but with technology these days, it is inevitable:(
iTunes sells mp3's, so you shouldn't need to have an iPod or iPhone to play them, I would think any device that plays mp3's would do. Although, it may be a bit more challenging to manage your library. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong) Regardless, I don't think it would ever go to that, as that's like saying that only one specific store is allowed to sell CD's.
I would hope that some sort of physical format will continue to exist, whether it be CD's, or some other type of format. Digital does seem to be the wave of the future, though, unfortunately. I'm sure the labels love it because it's probably more cost effective for them, but as for music, I think quality suffers. For movies, I feel differently, as there aren't many that I watch frequently in the same way that I listen to music frequently, so I like rentals and streaming. Pretty much the only DVD's I still buy are music concerts.
juniper
10 Nov 2011, 03:34
This affects Meat the same as any other band. Do people even really buy physical CD's anymore? It's a digital world, thanks to Apple and the iTunes revolution, music buying will never be the same. Remember Tower Records?
Julie in the rv mirror
10 Nov 2011, 05:39
Do people even really buy physical CD's anymore?
Yep, I do. As I said, I think the audio quality is better than the normal didgital download, although high quality digital files are becoming available. I also like the built-in backup that it provides, as well as some versatilty, as I can either put the music on my iPod, or listen to the disc directly at home or in the car. (CD's burned from mp3's aren't of the same quality) Plus, I like having the booklets that come with CD's, although they pale in comparison to vinyl covers.
Also, people of a certain generation aren't as comfortable with technology as the young'uns are. ;)
evil nickname
10 Nov 2011, 08:45
Not gonna happen. At least not any time soon.
The proposed alternative, just selling mp3s online through iTunes/Amazon/etc. just isn't ready yet. Record companies can ship CDs all over the world, yet making files available internationally by using the internet? "Nah, we can't do that, because, omg, borders!"
As long as there's not an easy to use, international, cross-platform way to sell music online without all those ridiculous licensing and DRM issues, I don't see CDs going anywhere anytime soon.
Yep, I do. As I said, I think the audio quality is better than the normal didgital download, although high quality digital files are becoming available. I also like the built-in backup that it provides, as well as some versatilty, as I can either put the music on my iPod, or listen to the disc directly at home or in the car. (CD's burned from mp3's aren't of the same quality) Plus, I like having the booklets that come with CD's, although they pale in comparison to vinyl covers.
Me also, and we're not alone by any means. Just as I prefer a decent, proper book. There's a pleasure in holding a CD, enjoying the cover, reading the booklet. I don't have an iPod, don't particularly want one, like to sit back and share music, and still copy my CDs onto cassette because that's what I have in my car where I find them easier and safe to use
Also, people of a certain generation aren't as comfortable with technology as the young'uns are. ;)
And sometimes simply don't see certain aspects are a huge improvement ;) I still prefer VHS to DVD for its biddability ;) As I said above prefer a proper book, and have yet to find any benefit in TV having gone digital that outweighs the inconvenience without investing more money in machinery industry wants to peddle. I'm perfectly comfortable with technology I see as improving my lot, but I like choice .. and that applied to in terms of how I decide to use what money I have ;)
And I still would rather make a cake than buy one, prefer to slice a loaf (and to make my bread most of the time), have used a microwave for decades and use it for more than heating food and cooking frozen peas but would give it up rather than an oven, make soup rather than buy a tin or packet. and would need to be literally starving to even take the top off a pot noodle! :lol: And even then I think roast rat might be a better option ;)
One obscure article in the Australian press does not a reality make.
Indeed .. nor a poll define and decide a set list or the contents of an album ;)
Caryl
robgomm
10 Nov 2011, 11:38
Me also, and we're not alone by any means. Just as I prefer a decent, proper book. There's a pleasure in holding a CD, enjoying the cover, reading the booklet. I don't have an iPod, don't particularly want one, like to sit back and share music, and still copy my CDs onto cassette because that's what I have in my car where I find them easier and safe to use
Caryl
Exactly! I want to hold a CD in my hands! See the physical artwork, read the booklet etc. I always read proper books too as opposed to digital ones. I've only got one digital book and that's because it wasn't made into hardback or paperback.
wolfy35
10 Nov 2011, 11:40
I have friends that work at music stores I asked them & they say they have been told CD's will be around for the forseable future but maybe not produced in huge numbers. They say that they expect that apart from highly promoted items or new releases they will be gradually moving towards just a single copy in store.
One of them said that they are already looking at new store layouts in preparation for installation of terminals where you can plug your mp3 device & purchase/download directly to capture the market that does not have internet connection. For me the most interesting tip was to watch out for Blu-Ray audio discs to start feeding in alongside CD's they would open up a whole new ball game in terms of audio quality & content.
robgomm
10 Nov 2011, 12:48
Bring back vinyl! :up:
I thought Vinyls were back? They made a big comeback a few years gao.
chairboys
10 Nov 2011, 12:50
CDs forever!!
Was also reported here last month, so not an invention of the Oz press ;) : http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=46980_0_2_0_C
duke knooby
10 Nov 2011, 23:54
things change, not always for the better, but if there is still a market, still demand, i don't think we'll see the demise of the cd for a while yet.. vinyl records are still sought after and still available... though the same cant be said for 35mm film, audio cassette, betamax, vhs, laserdisc etc etc so its probably ultimately inevitable
things change, not always for the better, but if there is still a market, still demand, i don't think we'll see the demise of the cd for a while yet.. vinyl records are still sought after and still available... though the same cant be said for 35mm film, audio cassette, betamax, vhs, laserdisc etc etc so its probably ultimately inevitable
35mm film is still available. Thats what they project movies still and studios and filmmakers still put their movies on film.
duke knooby
11 Nov 2011, 00:28
35mm film is still available. Thats what they project movies still and studios and filmmakers still put their movies on film.
you are indeed correct, my mistake... why is 35mm still used?
Monstro
11 Nov 2011, 01:08
you are indeed correct, my mistake... why is 35mm still used?
Did I read somewhere that there's a display, I think at the Tate, showing the first film shot entirely without film?
you are indeed correct, my mistake... why is 35mm still used?
With film its mainly used for quality check. Putting something on a peice of film enhances the quality a lot, that's why the movies you see in theaters look so much better in a theater.
35mm standard is what most HD cameras (like the red) are modeled after.
35mm negatives are also used for back up in case something happens to the digital copy.
Movies are not shot on 35mm camera film, though. they are just transferred onto them after color correction.
Did I read somewhere that there's a display, I think at the Tate, showing the first film shot entirely without film?
I think you are correct. I remember a professor talkin gabou tsomethin galong those lines
loaferman61
11 Nov 2011, 18:48
I have friends that work at music stores I asked them & they say they have been told CD's will be around for the forseable future but maybe not produced in huge numbers. They say that they expect that apart from highly promoted items or new releases they will be gradually moving towards just a single copy in store.
One of them said that they are already looking at new store layouts in preparation for installation of terminals where you can plug your mp3 device & purchase/download directly to capture the market that does not have internet connection. For me the most interesting tip was to watch out for Blu-Ray audio discs to start feeding in alongside CD's they would open up a whole new ball game in terms of audio quality & content.
I was just in Wal-Mart yesterday, the biggest retailer probably in the world and the CD section is down to one end of an aisle. Not more than a few hundred CD's total and most are new releases if there are multiple copies. Check most any CD on Amazon and see if it tells you something like "only two in stock". The retailer sees it as dead weight on the shelf and expects to only order a few more when the few they have sell. It is nothing like the 90's and the music industry failed to change with the times.
All of the uproar over Netflix here in the US was the company wanting to innovate before becoming irrelevant, they just botched the execution but the theory was sound. The movie industry is determined not to go the way of the music business, they just have not figured out how to do it. You can get dvd's that have 4 or 5 movies on them for $5 - $10 in Walmart. People are not buying as much physical product anymore.
Volumes will reduce as years go by, but I believe there will be a market for people who as said earlier - want to hold the cd and read the cover - for a long time to come.
Many people today seem to accept that they do not have a physical cd, but I always buy one and will continue to do so, as I am sure will many others - even though they are often more expensive than a download.
juniper
12 Nov 2011, 09:56
I was just in Wal-Mart yesterday, the biggest retailer probably in the world and the CD section is down to one end of an aisle. Not more than a few hundred CD's total and most are new releases if there are multiple copies. Check most any CD on Amazon and see if it tells you something like "only two in stock". The retailer sees it as dead weight on the shelf and expects to only order a few more when the few they have sell. It is nothing like the 90's and the music industry failed to change with the times.
All of the uproar over Netflix here in the US was the company wanting to innovate before becoming irrelevant, they just botched the execution but the theory was sound. The movie industry is determined not to go the way of the music business, they just have not figured out how to do it. You can get dvd's that have 4 or 5 movies on them for $5 - $10 in Walmart. People are not buying as much physical product anymore.
Those are really interesting insights into the future or lack of in retail stores. When i want to buy a song or album, it would never occur to me to buy a "cd". I buy the download, it's instant and I dont have to wait for it to be mailed to me. If I want to read about the album, i can do so online but perhaps with bonus digital downloads, that reading material can be downloaded also. I dont need any more plastic cases laying around.
chairboys
12 Nov 2011, 17:17
Those are really interesting insights into the future or lack of in retail stores. When i want to buy a song or album, it would never occur to me to buy a "cd". I buy the download, it's instant and I dont have to wait for it to be mailed to me. If I want to read about the album, i can do so online but perhaps with bonus digital downloads, that reading material can be downloaded also. I dont need any more plastic cases laying around.
I am one who will always buy a CD. It's what I have been brought up on!
And it is great to have a 'collection' of your own
When I have a moment to myself and fancy a listen to something, I open the door to the cupboard under the stairs and walk into my own 'record shop'.
I have a browse (if I can find a torch) and then pick out an album to play.
The whole process, in own sad way, enhances my joy of listening.
Long live the CD!!
Julie in the rv mirror
13 Nov 2011, 03:58
I am one who will always buy a CD. It's what I have been brought up on!
And it is great to have a 'collection' of your own
When I have a moment to myself and fancy a listen to something, I open the door to the cupboard under the stairs and walk into my own 'record shop'.
I have a browse (if I can find a torch) and then pick out an album to play.
The whole process, in own sad way, enhances my joy of listening.
Long live the CD!!
That's not sad at all; one of the the things I miss about vinyl albums is holding and looking at the cover and reading the liner notes while listening. Even a CD booklet isn't the same. It is part of the experience that made it more enjoyable, IMO.
juniper
13 Nov 2011, 20:20
I am one who will always buy a CD. It's what I have been brought up on!
And it is great to have a 'collection' of your own
When I have a moment to myself and fancy a listen to something, I open the door to the cupboard under the stairs and walk into my own 'record shop'.
I have a browse (if I can find a torch) and then pick out an album to play.
The whole process, in own sad way, enhances my joy of listening.
Long live the CD!!
I guess I made the transition to digital without much fanfare, I like having instant downloads, no waiting for a CD to arrive. I like that I don't have to buy an entire album, I can just buy singles from it. I do miss the inserts or reading the album info, with downloads, you never know who wrote something or who the other musicians are.
Volumes will reduce as years go by, but I believe there will be a market for people who as said earlier - want to hold the cd and read the cover - for a long time to come.
Many people today seem to accept that they do not have a physical cd, but I always buy one and will continue to do so, as I am sure will many others - even though they are often more expensive than a download.
Me too :) I don't have an iPod, don't particularly see the need for one for me. I like to listen to all the tracks on albums, like to sit back and hear the music fill the room, and also like Julie miss vinyl albums and holding and looking at the cover and reading the liner notes while listening.
But I still read books, read a lot of the time, and like to turn the pages as I go. Reading a book from a small machine, essentially like a mini-computer doesn't appeal to me at all. Reading is a pleasure away from the computer :-)
Caryl
evil nickname
23 Nov 2011, 13:42
Are Major Labels About To Abandon The CD? Er, No (http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=146&title=are_major_labels_about_to_abandon_the_cd_1&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1)
chairboys
23 Nov 2011, 13:54
Are Major Labels About To Abandon The CD? Er, No (http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=146&title=are_major_labels_about_to_abandon_the_cd_1&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1)
knew it was tosh all along :lol:
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