Title ideas for Meat's next album. [Archive]

AndrewG

28 Nov 2011, 13:12

Bat out of Hell 4Ever :: Escape From Hell
Songs by Jim Steinman

1. Hell ain't a Bad Place to be (but it is for me)
2. You said it all when you shut your mouth
3. You will like this song (or I'll paint your house hellish red)
4. It's a lovely day for a ballgame (Hot Summer Day)
5. Batter Up
6. You can't hit what you can't see
7. I'm no angel (but I've spread my wings a bit)
8. The Escape (instrumental)
9. It ain't over 'till it's over
10. Death may come but our love will last

GDW

28 Nov 2011, 14:02

We already know what it's gonna be called, and I'm talking about the next relevant album. IMO christmas albums don't really count. Sorry if that makes anyone mad.

Come on get with the Christmas spirit. Every great singer/ band has to put out a Christmas album at some time in their career. Or at least a Christmas single. :-)

GDW

28 Nov 2011, 14:09

Fireballs Fury. (To Hell with Me).

Dick

28 Nov 2011, 16:38

No idea about the next album but i think meat should release hctb and hiah as a double album and call it "Hang Cool in Hell with a Teddy Bear in a Handbasket" or that could also be a tour name.

AndrewG

28 Nov 2011, 16:42

Christmas in Hell

1. Have yourself a little Hellish Christmas
2. Rudolph, the red nosed axe murderer.
3. Baby, It's Hot inside
4. Loud Night
5. Hark! The Herald Demons sing.
6. Jingle Motorcycles
7. Black Christmas
8. Devil, Wake Ye Miserable Gentlemen
9. O, come Ye All Damned
10. Let it Burn, Let it Burn, Let it Burn
11. Rockin' around the gravestone
12. The True story of New York
13. I wish it could never be Christmas everyday
14. Deck the stratocasters
15. Frosty the Binman
16. Santa Clause is not comin' to town
17. Sad Xmas (War has begun)
18. The Last Noell
19. The Twelve Nights of Hell
20. I'll won't be home for Christmas
21. It's Beginning To Look Nothing Like Christmas
22. We Wish you a Hellish Christmas

The-Meat-85

28 Nov 2011, 18:01

Sebastian.

28 Nov 2011, 18:09

Meat Loaf: Rap Bat

An album of Meat collaborating with the best rap artists in the game, along with rap remixes from Bats 1, 2 and 3. Who wouldn't wanna hear a song with Meat and Snoop Dogg?

Me.

Dunno about a title but I thought this Screenshot I took in Skyrim would make a good album cover:

http://i.imgur.com/mh04cl.jpg

stretch37

28 Nov 2011, 18:38

Me.

Dunno about a title but I thought this Screenshot I took in Skyrim would make a good album cover:

http://i.imgur.com/mh04cl.jpg

hahah love it!

I never thought to ask if there were any other gamers on this forum....*makes new thread*

The Flying Mouse

28 Nov 2011, 20:19

Meat Loaf: Rap Bat

An album of Meat collaborating with the best rap artists in the game, along with rap remixes from Bats 1, 2 and 3. Who wouldn't wanna hear a song with Meat and Snoop Dogg?

:twisted: :lmao:

No doubt some fans would embrace this as part of Meats new direction and part of his artistic journey :facepalm:

I'd like to see Meat release a back to basics, ball busting, bigger than life rock album.
It's what he's good at.

nikox1

28 Nov 2011, 20:33

BAT OUT OF HELL 4 , it will happen you know

CarylB

28 Nov 2011, 20:49

I hope we see another step on Meat's new path which I love, and which he is also good at .. in fact brilliant! I have no great desire to see him walk back. Although the photo above is very good as a picture, I think it's too reminiscent of the Bat albums, and hope to see something as creative and new as the skulls on HIAH.

But if it has to have hell in the title why not something like Meat Loaf: Hell Hath No Fury

Best suggestion yet imo. Has "Hell" in the title but doesn't sound like another Bat album, and leads on from the new album. Although I think trying to decide a title is somewhat jumping the gun given none of us know what Meat has in mind in terms of content, style etc

Caryl

Wario

28 Nov 2011, 21:31

Masculine Isnt Big Enough In California :))

Sarge

28 Nov 2011, 21:34

Wario Made Me Do It

Wario

28 Nov 2011, 21:50

Wario Made Me Do It

SARGEant Pepper: the Fire Edition

Evil Ernie

28 Nov 2011, 23:54

Bat Out Of Hell 3: The Real Version

Julie in the rv mirror

29 Nov 2011, 01:22

But if it has to have hell in the title why not something like Meat Loaf: Hell Hath No Fury...

Now THERE'S a Steinman-y title! ;)

renegadeangel

29 Nov 2011, 23:26

LAST STAND AT HELLS GATE

TheDoode

30 Nov 2011, 01:25

Meat Loaf: Hells Yeah!!1!

To appeal to the 'Interwebs' culture, obviously.

1st single: I'd Download Anything for Free (But I Won't Download That).

Elijah's way

30 Nov 2011, 11:00

Or for the first time a self titled album using his real name Michael Lee Aday

AndrewG

30 Nov 2011, 11:49

Or for the first time a self titled album using his real name Michael Lee Aday

Yeah cause that will increase sales dramatically. :roll:

chairboys

30 Nov 2011, 12:14

Or for the first time a self titled album using his real name Michael Lee Aday

I think you mean MicHELL Lee Aday

Elijah's way

30 Nov 2011, 12:39

Yeah cause that will increase sales dramatically. :roll:

:roll: He has said many, many times that he doesn't care about that. And it was just a thought.

GDW

30 Nov 2011, 13:44

Or for the first time a self titled album using his real name Michael Lee Aday

Michael Lee Aday Presents His All Time Favourite Christmas Songs (Volume 1):roll:

Elijah's way

30 Nov 2011, 14:26

Meat Loaf Fighting For Our Lives

AndrewG

30 Nov 2011, 15:04

Michael Lee Aday sings the songs of Robert Allen Zimmerman Volume 1.
With guitar solos by Saul Hudson, special female vocal appearance by Gaynor Hopkins and piano performances by Reginald Kenneth Dwight.

Sarge

30 Nov 2011, 20:08

@ Andrew: That is not that unrealistic. Believe it or not, I own a record by a guy named Henry John Deutschendorf (http://www.amazon.de/Henry-John-Deutschendorf-genannt-Denver/dp/B00003IQLW). Meat Loaf is lucky that his real name doesn't sound German, LOL.

Great suggestion for an album, by the way - not with regard to the labeling but with regard to the contributions. :cool:

Elijah's way

30 Nov 2011, 23:41

Meat Loaf aka Michael Lee Aday

I think if he would have used his real name a lot more people would take him seriously. :shrug:

CarylB

01 Dec 2011, 00:03

Meat Loaf aka Michael Lee Aday

I think if he would have used his real name a lot more people would take him seriously. :shrug:

Who knows? He might have sold over 40 million records and still be selling out arenas when he was touring in his sixties ... ;)

Caryl

Elijah's way

01 Dec 2011, 11:31

Who knows? He might have sold over 40 million records and still be selling out arenas when he was touring in his sixties ... ;)

Caryl

true

AndrewG

01 Dec 2011, 12:39

Meat Loaf aka Michael Lee Aday

I think if he would have used his real name a lot more people would take him seriously. :shrug:

:!: You really think that?! You really think he would have had the career he had without the "Meat Loaf" brand name. :roll: :? People taking you seriously doesn't sell records in my opinion.

At a time of low sales, dwindling concert audiences I think the LAST thing that should be considered is for Meat to his real name. But yeah, what does it matter, eh? Do it if you really want him to hit rock bottom. :roll: :?

chairboys

01 Dec 2011, 13:15

I think if he would have used his real name a lot more people would take him seriously. :shrug:

yeah, just like Katie Price

Elijah's way

01 Dec 2011, 14:45

:!: You really think that?! You really think he would have had the career he had without the "Meat Loaf" brand name. :roll: :? People taking you seriously doesn't sell records in my opinion.

At a time of low sales, dwindling concert audiences I think the LAST thing that should be considered is for Meat to his real name. But yeah, what does it matter, eh? Do it if you really want him to hit rock bottom. :roll: :?

Um ok!:roll: Yes I really think that. What makes you think that he couldn't do it without the name Meat Loaf? It's just my opinion, well not just mine but everyone that I know that's a music fan seems to think so too. And what I mean by taking him seriously is critics, Awards ceremonies, etc. At this point in his career I don't think he would hit rock bottom :roll: if he was to do that. I mean look at Prince, he did it and it didn't hurt his salls, and Puff Daddy did it.

Like I said before, it was just a thought. No harm done. After all it's just my OPINION, and there like assholes everybody has one.

Elijah's way

01 Dec 2011, 14:49

Who knows? He might have sold over 40 million records and still be selling out arenas when he was touring in his sixties ... ;)

Caryl

I thought it was over 100,000,000,00 now?

Elijah's way

01 Dec 2011, 14:51

Anyway back on subject.

Meat Loaf We The People

Elijah's way

10 Sep 2012, 17:11

Digging up an old thread here lol

Meat Loaf
We Were Soldiers

sounds like a good title

stretch37

10 Sep 2012, 20:15

this isn't a title...more of an album idea :P Something that sends out positive vibes, is fun to listen to, and has Meat's excellent vocals would be so cool. I also hope that Paul convinces Meat to experiment with *some* effects. That is to say...Play around with them, use them for emphasis to greater emphasize his amazing voice, and make the songs more fun and modern.

The Flying Mouse

10 Sep 2012, 20:34

Meat Loaf
We Were Soldiers

sounds like a good title

:twisted: Isn't that a Mel Gibson film? :wtf:
I can't see an album called We Were Soldiers working in any logical way unless you have a bunch of songs about the military, and I don't think Meat is right for that.
Patrick may :bleh: have been a soldier, but only the first song of the album had any reference (well, not even that, takes place during) military action.

I think Help For Heroes or The Military Wives might have something to work with there (songs like In The Army Now by Status Quo and He Ain't Heavy by THe Hollies) but I can't see a title like that working for a rock album.

this isn't a title...more of an album idea :P Something that sends out positive vibes, is fun to listen to, and has Meat's excellent vocals would be so cool.

Sounds like a rock version of The Beach Boys :lol:
There were a few songs over the last two albums to make up an album like that.
Some kick ass tunes and bouncy beats.

Elijah's way

10 Sep 2012, 21:01

:twisted: Isn't that a Mel Gibson film? :wtf:
I can't see an album called We Were Soldiers working in any logical way unless you have a bunch of songs about the military, and I don't think Meat is right for that.
Patrick may :bleh: have been a soldier, but only the first song of the album had any reference (well, not even that, takes place during) military action.

I think Help For Heroes or The Military Wives might have something to work with there (songs like In The Army Now by Status Quo and He Ain't Heavy by THe Hollies) but I can't see a title like that working for a rock album.

Sounds like a rock version of The Beach Boys :lol:
There were a few songs over the last two albums to make up an album like that.
Some kick ass tunes and bouncy beats.

Yeah I think it is but I just like the title and it would fit the theme he's been going with. IMO

Meat Loaf Prize Fight Lover with the first single and video Prize Fight Lover

Sarge

11 Sep 2012, 12:40

Isn't that a Mel Gibson film? :wtf:

Exactly.

[...] I don't think Meat is right for that. [...]

I agree. Meat Loaf dealing with "political" issues on his albums doesn't appear very credible to me, sorry. :shrug: His current live shows feature nothing I'd even remotely associate with any issues related to soldiers. Maybe Elijah's way had some kind of military comedy in mind. :twisted:

Cherry.Loaf

11 Sep 2012, 13:03

Hell on Earth? Meat Loaf: Descent to the Underworld?

CarylB

11 Sep 2012, 13:05

Meat's commentary on what he sees in the world in HIAH is entirely credible to me, but then I see him as an intelligent and thoughtful man, and the lyrics of so many of the songs resonate strongly with me, and with what I too see in the world.

But getting back to album titles; HCTB had at its core a central story of a soldier lying on a battlefield, and Meat chose a title he thought would be completely different and stop people in their tracks. HIAH has at its core Meat's concerns about what he sees around him, and the title reflects that. We don't know what the next album will be about .. neither its lyrics, nor any underlying theme, and that's more likely imo to prompt the title.

Soldiers of Fortune might have been an interesting title a good many years ago, depending on the songs ;) But I don't think there's anything particularly military about either HCTB or HIAH. The first may have started with POE on a battlefield, but the album was about a young soldier imagining what his life might have been back home; the second has no relevance to soldiers or the military, so I really don't see any theme developing that would tie the two together with a next album.

Caryl

The Flying Mouse

11 Sep 2012, 21:23

Soldiers of Fortune might have been an interesting title a good many years ago, depending on the songs ;)

:twisted: Soldiers Of Fortune is the title that sprung to mind when I read We Were Soldiers.
Soldiers Of Fortune seems to have a lot more scope. A soldier of fortune, a gun for hire, a drifter, an outlaw, it could go in far more directions than saying we were soldiers which is a title that IMHO seems to impose a very narrow margin for going "off topic".

misterfive

11 Sep 2012, 22:06

After Hot Holidays his next album should be something theatric maybe, "Escape From The Good Old U.S.A"! Similar to HIAH, EFTGOU (Escape From The Good Old U.S.A) would be about how things change.

It would start have the following tracks.

Track 1 - Blood for Love - (6:01) (A song about a man who is dealing with his wife who had his children but continues to sell herself).

Track 2 - I Am Going To Kill You God - (4:23) (A ballad about a man's shattered faith for losing everything chasing his dreams)

Track 3 - Lawyers, Guns, and Money - (4:04) (A cover song he did live that he should reall put on an album)

Track 4 - I Pledge Myself (For What I Can Get) - (3:45) (About a former army man turned mercenary to pay for his back taxes).

Track 5 - Escape From The Good Old U.S.A (Gonna' Make The Scene) - (6:29) (The title song about the American dream "meatloaf and apple pie for desert", and how its becoming a nostalgic feeling).

Track 6 - Slaves Be Damned - (5:54) (A Duet-Ballad with Leonard Cohen but its a pretty crazy song about Abe Lincon returning from the grave to end modern slavery of the working class).

Track 7 - Hear Me In The Night - (2:01) (A short melody about having trust in God and Man "if God is dead and buried, then please brother hear me").

Track 8 - It Is Too Late For Us But It's Not Too Soon - (4:54) (A Closing about how it is too late to help the old and weary of the world but it's not to soon for the next generation. Its basically a plead for change for the better).

So yeah that is what I'd think would make a fitting album for Meat Loaf. Oh and the cover of the album should be Uncle Sam fighting with an angle of death over his open grave.

CarylB

11 Sep 2012, 23:37

I'd say there's not much left for Meat to do .. ;) Except he has already told us he has some songs ready for the next album (and at the time was talking about next spring) and the Christmas album seems more likely to be next year.

Caryl

misterfive

12 Sep 2012, 14:36

He said after his Mad Mad World Tour.

CarylB

12 Sep 2012, 15:17

He said after his Mad Mad World Tour.

And we don't know the date of that, as we don't know whether a tour in the UK next year would be MMW or would have another title more in line with what he's been talking about in the USA for 2013, do we? ... But he has also mentioned recording in February next year, and I doubt any Christmas album would be released in 2012 .. in fact I think 2013 had been mentioned. Imo his decisions on, and recording of his next album is more likely to be before the Christmas album comes out, which by definition would be at the end of any year ;)

Caryl

misterfive

12 Sep 2012, 17:15

Indeed but after Hot Holidays what kind of album would you like to see I am hoping of a Bad Attitude meets Hell In A Handbasket.

Smithie

12 Sep 2012, 21:18

Bat IV

glamourgirl

12 Sep 2012, 22:43

Meat mentioned an announcement in October, so I guess it has something to do with Hot Holidays or maybe some holiday tunes on iTunes.

renegadeangel

12 Sep 2012, 23:28

Bat IV

Renegade Angel
Songs by Jim Steinman

AndyK

13 Sep 2012, 21:37

Indeed but after Hot Holidays what kind of album would you like to see

Meat Loaf: Live at Andy & Lucy's Wedding

Paul Richardson

14 Sep 2012, 00:53

Bat IV

... and there's enough Steinman material already out there to make it happen - they just both need the desire to do it ...

Elijah's way

15 Sep 2012, 11:19

Meat Loaf
Bat Out Of Hell IV
Sex, Drugs And Rock N' Roll

The Flying Mouse

15 Sep 2012, 18:50

... and there's enough Steinman material already out there to make it happen - they just both need the desire to do it ...

:twisted: Unreleased material?

There was a lot of comment when Meat covered IACBTMN, and I don't think an album of covers would go down too well.

There is a belief that Jim has tons of unreleased material, that it's all A material, and one day it will be let loose on the world.

Although there might be some stuff, I think the ammount and quality is exagerated by hopeful fans.

For one, Jim is famous for recycling lyrics and pieces of music. Who knows how much of this unreleased material we've heard in other songs?

Also, if Jim had a wealth of unreleased material, why would he recycle so much the material that has been released?

I don't doubt that there are some undiscovered jems, but wheather it's enough for an album without any additional work from Jim (who, to my knowledge, has done no work for a long time now) is up for debate.

If Meat and Jim were to work together (which i'd be VERY happy about) i'd rather that it wasn't a Bat album. The trillogy is complete. Once you go past the magic number 3 there is no logical place to stop. If there is no place to stop then the work is never finished. Think of it like a race where the runners keep running and running and running but nobody ever crosses the finish line. They just keep running until they get too tired and stop running and it all ends a bit "meh" :bleh:

Paul Richardson

15 Sep 2012, 20:58

:twisted: Unreleased material?

I meant 'released' material like:

We're Still The Children
Which Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
Not Allowed To Love
Angels Arise
Graveyard Shift
Braver Than We Are
Who Needs The Young
It Hurts Only When I Feel (ie Break It done justice...)
Souvenirs
Come in the Night

There's enough here, and if Jim has couple of songs hidden away or could write a couple specially, then there could be an album like Bat II, lots of 'recycling' with some new songs thrown in ... :twisted:

Paul Richardson

15 Sep 2012, 21:02

There was a lot of comment when Meat covered IACBTMN, and I don't think an album of covers would go down too well.

I don't think of IACBTMN as a cover ... I really dislike Celine Dion - great singer but zero passion - and I've erased her version from my memory !

Meat has always recycled and reinterpreted Steinman songs which were originally done by others. I don't see any reason why he shouldn't do this now especially if Steinman were producing it.

Evil One

15 Sep 2012, 22:41

I don't think of IACBTMN as a coverI do. Whether you like Celine Dion's version or not (I don't) there's no escaping the fact that she made the song famous.

Paul Richardson

16 Sep 2012, 00:55

I do. Whether you like Celine Dion's version or not (I don't) there's no escaping the fact that she made the song famous.

I'd prefer to forget she ever did it, but strictly speaking her version was a cover also and Meat's a cover of a cover.

Its all, I think, slightly academic as Meat tends (and I accept IACBTMN is probably not the best example) to make the recycled song his own in any case.

Arguably IACBTMN is no different from It Just Won't Quit, Out Of The Frying Pan & In To The Fire, Rock & Roll Dreams Come Through, Good Girls Go To Heaven, Lost Boys & Golden Girls, The Future Ain't What It Used To Be, Bad For God, Surfs Up, Nowhere Fast, Left In The Dark and Original Sin, all of which had a previous major label release. :twisted:

Anubis

17 Sep 2012, 07:46

I'd prefer to forget she ever did it, but strictly speaking her version was a cover also and Meat's a cover of a cover.

Its all, I think, slightly academic as Meat tends (and I accept IACBTMN is probably not the best example) to make the recycled song his own in any case.

Arguably IACBTMN is no different from It Just Won't Quit, Out Of The Frying Pan & In To The Fire, Rock & Roll Dreams Come Through, Good Girls Go To Heaven, Lost Boys & Golden Girls, The Future Ain't What It Used To Be, Bad For God, Surfs Up, Nowhere Fast, Left In The Dark and Original Sin, all of which had a previous major label release. :twisted:

Yes CD made it bought the song into the main streem, but I do not think it was not the best verson, on the other hand , as much as I like MR, for me IACBTMN didn't work as a duet- pandora's box was the best verson.

As much as I like Bat III, I think it din't have the same vibe as the first two, and i think jims absence controbuted to that.

If Meat was was goning to Recycle some of Jim's matiral i'd like to see 'Loving you's a dirty job' done with Patti.

Mr. Happy

17 Sep 2012, 09:13

If Meat was was goning to Recycle some of Jim's matiral i'd like to see 'Loving you's a dirty job' done with Patti.

I'd also love to hear this. Maybe without the ginormous outro, though. You could trim two or three minutes off the end of this one (maybe ever more) without anyone noticing :lol: I'd also love to hear Meat take a crack at Tonight Is What It Means To Be Young. This seguing into We're Still the Children would make the perfect finale for an album.

Also, Jim apparently does have a vault secreted away somewhere. Rob Evan did an interview a while back claiming he'd heard stuff out of it (such as a song called Vaults of Heaven, to the tune of Fur Sarah). So there may be hope yet.

To drag this back OT, though, how about...

Meat Loaf:
Come in the Night
Songs by Jim Steinman

With the songs mentioned by Paul above, minus Graveyard Shift (half the song is Bad for Good) and with Loving You is a Dirty Job and Tonight is What It Means to Be Young. Doesn't have to be Bat 4 :cool:

Anubis

18 Sep 2012, 06:07

I'd also love to hear this. Maybe without the ginormous outro, though. You could trim two or three minutes off the end of this one (maybe ever more) without anyone noticing :lol: I'd also love to hear Meat take a crack at Tonight Is What It Means To Be Young. This seguing into We're Still the Children would make the perfect finale for an album.

Also, Jim apparently does have a vault secreted away somewhere. Rob Evan did an interview a while back claiming he'd heard stuff out of it (such as a song called Vaults of Heaven, to the tune of Fur Sarah). So there may be hope yet.

To drag this back OT, though, how about...

Meat Loaf:
Come in the Night
Songs by Jim Steinman

With the songs mentioned by Paul above, minus Graveyard Shift (half the song is Bad for Good) and with Loving You is a Dirty Job and Tonight is What It Means to Be Young. Doesn't have to be Bat 4 :cool:

I would love to hear Meat do TIWIMTBY as well.

To drage this back myself I was thinking to keep with the sequence but Not a Bat album, how about

Meat Loaf: 'WAITING FOR HEAVEN'

misterfive

19 Sep 2012, 03:09

:twisted: Unreleased material?

:

What about "A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste" (1985 Demo)

The best unreleased Steinman song in my opinion outside of the Everly Brothers.

The Flying Mouse

19 Sep 2012, 20:45

What about "A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste" (1985 Demo)

The best unreleased Steinman song in my opinion outside of the Everly Brothers.

:twisted: Meat's already sang it.

loaferman61

19 Sep 2012, 22:18

I meant 'released' material like:

We're Still The Children
Which Part Of My Body Hurts The Most
Not Allowed To Love
Angels Arise
Graveyard Shift
Braver Than We Are
Who Needs The Young
It Hurts Only When I Feel (ie Break It done justice...)
Souvenirs
Come in the Night

There's enough here, and if Jim has couple of songs hidden away or could write a couple specially, then there could be an album like Bat II, lots of 'recycling' with some new songs thrown in ... :twisted:

I was told that Jim had a song called "You Break It, You Buy It" but it was apparently lost or somewhere incomplete. There are thousands of cliche's, signs, etc. to draw from, LOL. Personally I doubt he's done anything in years, maybe a gem stashed someplace though. The list above is all we know for sure.

loaferman61

19 Sep 2012, 22:19

:twisted: Meat's already sang it.
The demo is not like the one Meat recorded.

Paul Richardson

20 Sep 2012, 00:09

Personally I doubt he's done anything in years, maybe a gem stashed someplace though.

The fact is there are enough songs already written - they just need to bury the hatchet and do it !!!

The Flying Mouse

20 Sep 2012, 23:31

The fact is there are enough songs already written - they just need to bury the hatchet and do it !!!

:twisted: AS we saw at the SWHOF induction, there doesn't seem to be any hatchet to bury.

It's just the age old problem of getting Jimmy to get his ass into the studio.

Maybe he's not well enough, or maybe he just can't be arsed anymore and wants to enjoy a richly deserved retirement, but he just doesn't seem to want to do anything.

It's not an issue of bad blood.

Paul Richardson

21 Sep 2012, 00:28

:twisted: AS we saw at the SWHOF induction, there doesn't seem to be any hatchet to bury.

It's just the age old problem of getting Jimmy to get his ass into the studio.

Maybe he's not well enough, or maybe he just can't be arsed anymore and wants to enjoy a richly deserved retirement, but he just doesn't seem to want to do anything.

It's not an issue of bad blood.

Well whatever the problem, the material is out there already written, they both just need to record it ...