What the CHSIB Tour couldve been....

[Wario]

Some interesting things Kasim stated:

Kasim described Party In The Park as "Nightmare In The Park"

Kasim said that the band know about "a half dozen" different versions of Anything For Love and it depends on Meat Loaf on the night about which version they sing - "it can range anything from 6 to 10 minutes"

Kasim said that the Meat Loaf set list doesn't vary much although Meat Loaf "threw in" You Took The Words Right Out of My Mouth in St Louis

Kasim said that Meat Loaf used to play Original Sin on stage and he would like to play that one again

Kasim said that during the band rehearsals they spent 4 days working on a medley of Blind Before I Stop / Rock and Roll Mercenaries and Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us but Meat Loaf decided not to use it

SOURCE: http://www.kasiminfo.co.uk/2003/0713.html

Then Meat said this:

Here's the list we're working on:
Do It This will be a special event" Very Cool
Dead Ringer
Cryin out Loud
Heaven Can wait
Lemon
Fry'in Pan
Revved up
Took The Words
CHSIB
Testify
A For Love
2 outa 3
Blind before I stop
R& R Dreams
Did I Say That
Mercury Blues
Tear Me down
I'd Lie For You
Paradise
Love You out Loud
Because Of You
Lawyers Guns and Money
River deep
Midnite at the Lost and found

We can't play all of these every nite

But I like the Idea of "Love her for both of us"

What from Bad Atitude?

Meat

Man, oh man oh man. The CHSIB tour was still interesting, Then it turned into the stagnant and boring (setlist wise) HOTD Tour.

[AndrewG]

Both were great tours and both had memorable set lists as far as I am concerned. This hindsight nitpicking is total bs.

[stretch37]

Wario, I love how excited you are about all this stuff. Great energy. I loved chsib tour...Love that they had crying out loud in it. It used to nearly make me cry watching the mso video of that.

[Wario]

Both were great tours and both had memorable set lists as far as I am concerned. This hindsight nitpicking is total bs.

CHSIB tour did, not the HOTD tour tho.

Let's compare:
Sometimes lost boys and golden girls
Do it
Lemon
Mercury
Lawyers - tear me down
Dead ringer
Testify
love you out loud
Revved up
Took the words
Chsib
2/3 - DIST - FCOL
Frying pan
Midnight
Paradise
AFL
Bat
Sometimes forever young
Back in the usa - we are family/we will tock you

Then HOTD:
Whore
Lemon
Black Betty
Dead ringer
frying pan
Took the words
Only when I feel
Revved up
Anything for love
Sometimes 2/3
Paradise
Bat
Mercury

Never changed. So on a technical level the setlist was stagnant.

The shows themselves were great I'm talking the setlist

[CarylB]

At the end of the CHSIB tour Meat was thinking of throwing in the towel on touring .. I was delighted he came back with the aptly titled Hair of the Dog.

And when deciding setlists Meat always comes down in favour of the vast majority of his audience who come to hear what they know as the classics .. meeting the desire of 99% of the audience is not stagnant .. it's smart ;) Most go to one show .. and they're neither bored nor jaded. I went to many on both tours, and I wasn't either (And I heard DIST once, and Forever Young once; didn't hear LG&GB or FCOL at all)

[Wario]

At the end of the CHSIB tour Meat was thinking of throwing in the towel on touring .. I was delighted he came back with the aptly titled Hair of the Dog.

And when deciding setlists Meat always comes down in favour of the vast majority of his audience who come to hear what they know as the classics .. meeting the desire of 99% of the audience is not stagnant .. it's smart ;) Most go to one show .. and they're neither bored nor jaded. I went to many on both tours, and I wasn't either (And I heard DIST once, and Forever Young once; didn't hear LG&GB or FCOL at all)

OH I never inferred the actual show was boring, I just meant the setlist.

Meats theatrically puts on a different show each night, I am just talking the song choices.

Its hard to really say what would work with audiences if he hasnt experimented with his back catalogue much.

I wold say throw an album track out on stage once a while and see how its received ;)

Never know he might come across another frying pan or break it.

[CarylB]

And I meant the vast majority of the audience don't find the show OR the setlist boring .. and if it's a theatrically different show every night, surely even those who go to several shows shouldn't find it boring either. I have never found anything about any Meat show I've attended "boring". Plus he's been doing this for nearly 40 years .. I think he knows what the main audience will come expecting and be disappointed if they don't hear ;)

As to changing it from night to night, it's the theatricality that mitigates against this. Meat doesn't come on stage and sing a bunch of songs .. he designs and choreographs a night of theatre. You don't change scenes in an evening of theatre each night .. particularly when he has images playing on a screen behind him to enhance the show further.

[AndrewG]

Hotd wasn't promoting a new album. He was doing outdoor shows and festivals here in the UK and Europe at least. You have to see these things in context imo. Then it all makes more sense. Bat 3 with steinman was supposedly on its way so we got a taster. The fact the setlist didn't change is something that has been going on for a while rather than a problem in hotd.

[Wario]

Hotd wasn't promoting a new album. He was doing outdoor shows and festivals here in the UK and Europe at least. You have to see these things in context imo. Then it all makes more sense. Bat 3 with steinman was supposedly on its way so we got a taster. The fact the setlist didn't change is something that has been going on for a while rather than a problem in hotd.

both you and caryl have points.

Someone like BIlly Joel changes his setlist every show so hes not fatigued doing the same thing over and over. figured meat would feel the same way.

[CarylB]

But Meat isn't Billy Joel is he? He doesn't approach his work in the same way. How many times has Meat said he never gets bored with singing those songs because he's an actor, and that's how he delivers each song? He calls up the character and is on stage delivering a scene in a play he's envisaged .. and is no more fatigued than Olivier would have been playing Hamlet