Opening Page

[dottie]

On opening of mlukfc first page, "I'm seeing Flash or HTML continue", I know what this means, but why?

[R.]

You should see a number too. Do you?

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: I saw a number 6 and curiosity killed the cat.I thought I was at the wrong fan club :lol: :lol: :lol: .

[original sin]

6 - have I broke it???

[R.]

No - 6 is fine. :))

[original sin]

phew - one thing that can't be blamed on me then :twisted:

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: Well,curiosity may have been the downfall of a feline,but us Mouses (even the flying variety) are tougher than that (you never watched Tom & Jerry? :wink: ).
So..........
WHAT GIVES 8O

[Vickip]

:twisted: Well,curiosity may have been the downfall of a feline,but us Mouses (even the flying variety) are tougher than that (you never watched Tom & Jerry? :wink: ).
So..........
WHAT GIVES 8O

You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth Mouse :)
What's going on?

Vicki

[R.]

I know. :))
But I won't tell. :devil:

[Vickip]

I know. :))
But I won't tell. :devil:

You're no fun R :))

Oh so you're going to make us guess, huh ....
Ok ... could it be that the website is celebrating it's 6th birthday today :??:

Vicki

[Sapphire Lady]

Ok ... could it be that the website is celebrating it's 6th birthday today :??:



Can't be that. This website went up in July 1999. I remember because it was finished just 3 days before I finished the Peat Loaf site :mrgreen:

More likely that the fan club itself is 6 years old today.

[dottie]

Well I've been a member of the Meat Loaf Fan club since 1986, one way or another, various organisers have taken over the reins during that time :? Maybe it could be this present fan club originally run by Anne, and then Diane?

Is there a new opening page as well? Something appears to move upwards (numbers?) and sort of flashes red.

Got it R.'s been busy, click on anything at the top of the page, and the word Meat Loaf 'flies' upwards, I've either completely gone mad, or am imagining the No. 6., The Prisoner isn't around is he? Patrick McGoohan remember him :??:


Re-Vamped is the word I was looking for

[Sapphire Lady]

The 6 has changed to a 5 today so I guess it's a countdown to something. But what ??? Can't be Meat's birthday cos that's tomorrow.

[heat]

R - I think i might know what this is all about.....

[Sapphire Lady]

R - I think i might know what this is all about.....

Go on, tell us heat. Put us out of our misery.

[dottie]

R - I think i might know what this is all about.....


Ditto Ditto
Go on, tell us heat. Put us out of our misery.

Could it be the apocalypse between Gabriel, Satan and God :twisted:

[heat]

R - I think i might know what this is all about.....


Ditto Ditto
Go on, tell us heat. Put us out of our misery.

Could it be the apocalypse between Gabriel, Satan and God :twisted:

No, nothing quite on that magnitude :wink:

BUT...if it is what i think it is...then R has sworn me to secrecy and not a word shall pass my lips... :twisted: :wink:

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: erm,5 8O .
Either it's a countdown,or big bird from Sesemee street has taken over the forum and 5 is the daily number :idea: .
C'mon Heat :D .You can tell me :D .I'm a moderator :wink: .

[Vickip]

Ok ... could it be that the website is celebrating it's 6th birthday today :??:



Can't be that. This website went up in July 1999. I remember because it was finished just 3 days before I finished the Peat Loaf site :mrgreen:

More likely that the fan club itself is 6 years old today.

Oh ok ... thanks for the information!
Vicki

[original sin]

R - I think i might know what this is all about.....

Heat I hope I'm think what your thinking :? 8O 'cos it's saying three today and it's a bit freaky 8O 8O

[heat]

R - I think i might know what this is all about.....

Heat I hope I'm think what your thinking :? 8O 'cos it's saying three today and it's a bit freaky 8O 8O

Believe you me hun, you are...or so i've been lead to believe :D :wink:

[Vickip]

R - I think i might know what this is all about.....

Heat I hope I'm think what your thinking :? 8O 'cos it's saying three today and it's a bit freaky 8O 8O

But what are you thinking Sin :??: Heat :??: It's too freaky 8O 8O
Vicki

[shadow1000001]

R - I think i might know what this is all about.....

Heat I hope I'm think what your thinking :? 8O 'cos it's saying three today and it's a bit freaky 8O 8O

But what are you thinking Sin :??: Heat :??: It's too freaky 8O 8O
Vicki

Your right Vicki, It's way too freaky 8O 8O

Maria

[heat]

I'm sorry...my lips are sealed...... :lol:

[Vickip]

I'm sorry...my lips are sealed...... :lol:

Come on heat ... you're killing us here ... :lmao:
Not even a hint :roll:

Vicki

[original sin]

I'm sorry...my lips are sealed...... :lol:

Ok, I'm going to be very mature, adult and grown up about this :devil:

ner ner na ner ner I know something you don't know ner ner na ner ner
:lmao: :lmao:

[shadow1000001]

I'm sorry...my lips are sealed...... :lol:

Ok, I'm going to be very mature, adult and grown up about this :devil:

ner ner na ner ner I know something you don't know ner ner na ner ner

:lmao: :lmao:

Very cute. I glad to see that we are all mature about this :lmao: :lmao:


Maria

[Vickip]

I'm sorry...my lips are sealed...... :lol:

Ok, I'm going to be very mature, adult and grown up about this :devil:

ner ner na ner ner I know something you don't know ner ner na ner ner

:lmao: :lmao:

Very cute. I glad to see that we are all mature about this :lmao: :lmao:


Maria

Right you are Maria :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Vicki

[R.]

Hmmm ... post a few numbers somewhere and 90% of visitors freak out.
Strange, eh? :))

[Vickip]

Hmmm ... post a few numbers somewhere and 90% of visitors freak out.
Strange, eh? :))

Yep it is :)) Come on .. give us a hint :))
:lmao: :lmao:
Vicki

[shadow1000001]

Hmmm ... post a few numbers somewhere and 90% of visitors freak out.
Strange, eh? :))

I think that you are having WAY too much fun with this R. :twisted:

Maria

[Vickip]

Hmmm ... post a few numbers somewhere and 90% of visitors freak out.
Strange, eh? :))

I think that you are having WAY too much fun with this R. :twisted:

Maria

Yes ... I think so too Maria :twisted:

Vicki

[Chris]

I think i might have cracked it - luckily the sticky tape seems to be holding!!!!!

[Vickip]

I think i might have cracked it - luckily the sticky tape seems to be holding!!!!!

:lmao: Just one little hint ... please :))

Vicki

[Testify]

ok this has been buggin me for ages, please please please give us a hint :mrgreen:

[R.]

Nope. :p

[Chris]

Well if no-one else is willing to reveal all I will

I will post full details here on Thursday!! Scouts Honour!!!!

[original sin]

Well if no-one else is willing to reveal all I will

I will post full details here on Thursday!! Scouts Honour!!!!

:lmao: So you gave up on the Brownies then Chris?

[Testify]

Nope. :p

pritty pritty please!! with a cherry on top :D

[Vickip]

Very cool R :)) :)) :))

Vicki

[Sapphire Lady]

Yes, very impressive :D

[dottie]

Well I've been a member of the Meat Loaf Fan club since 1986, one way or another, various organisers have taken over the reins during that time :? Maybe it could be this present fan club originally run by Anne, and then Diane?

Is there a new opening page as well? Something appears to move upwards (numbers?) and sort of flashes red.

Got it R.'s been busy, click on anything at the top of the page, and the word Meat Loaf 'flies' upwards, I've either completely gone mad, or am imagining the No. 6., The Prisoner isn't around is he? Patrick McGoohan remember him :??:


Re-Vamped is the word I was looking for

Just had to bump this, I guessed correctly didn't I Re-Vamped is the word I was looking for

[Jayd]

MMmmm very impressive, like it very much.

[heat]

So guess all has been revealed, then??? :D

And it's definately growing on me.... :wink:

[Testify]

omg!! very cool, gonna take me awhile to figure it all out cos im dumb.

[heat]

omg!! very cool, gonna take me awhile to figure it all out cos im dumb.

No you isn't hun...just..er...youthfull... :wink:

[original sin]

So..........it never went BANG BOOM after all then :mrgreen:

I like it :lol:

[Terri]

omg!! very cool, gonna take me awhile to figure it all out cos im dumb.
Goes for me too! I like it 8)
No you isn't hun...just..er...youthfull...
So whats my excuse :wink:

[heat]

omg!! very cool, gonna take me awhile to figure it all out cos im dumb.
Goes for me too! I like it 8)
No you isn't hun...just..er...youthfull...
So whats my excuse :wink:

Your Excuse??? Errmmm...it's cos...er.....You're just blinded by how fab the re-vamp is...yeah...that's it!!!! :wink: :lol:

[Chris]

Very nice

Me like!!! :D

[mariella]

Looks fantastic!
Thank you, R. 8)

Mariella

[Vickip]

Looks fantastic!
Thank you, R. 8)

Mariella

Absolutely right Mariella !!
Thank you R. :))

Vicki

[Michel]

It's different, but it looks very nice.

[shadow1000001]

Looks fantastic!
Thank you, R. 8)

Mariella

Yes it does look fantastic :D
Thank you R.

Maria

[Jen]

Very nice 8)

[Tim]

My god.... i was shocked... really shocked.... What in the hell has happened to the old MLUKFC site that i liked so much???? What the hell is going on.

It really sucks. Not easy to find things, no nice colors. I mean.... this is really terrible. R.... How in the hell have you done this, hope this is an error and that you will change it back real soon!!!

Ooooh, i'm shocked!!! :evil: :?

(bleugh)

The BUtcher

[CarolM]

Thanks R, :D i think its coolllllllllllllllllllllll. :wink:

[dottie]

Love It R. easy to move around in too :D

Do miss the Bat though :(

[Chris]

Just realised, i no longer need to link into the forums directly to avoid getting those two naff bars at the top and left sides of the screen!!!!!!!!

WOOOOOO!!! can surf from work wtithout the boss twigging!!!!!!!!

[Bren]

I'm in a minority here i fear :roll:
I for one do not like the changes, and i'm not going to pretend i do.
Whilst i understand the need for change and improvement, it has now lost it's lovely uniqueness.
I loved the opening page...loved all the graphics....and the twiddleyBat
The graphics added to the sites individuality and uniqueness....it made it different from the average website and really grabbed the attention.
I loved the fact it was simple and straight forward to find your way around

The NEW lurid yellow background detracts from the print....it is too overpowering....the black background was much easier on the eyes.The new opening page does not grab the attention or have the same appeal.


Bren

[Em]

Bren wrote:
I loved the opening page...loved all the graphics....and the twiddleyBat
The graphics added to the sites individuality and uniqueness....it made it different from the average website and really grabbed the attention.


I feel much the same but I think you express it far better than me. I do find the new site easier to find my way around...... but I did like the graphics on the old site and am sorry to find they have gone.

[Testify]

omg!! very cool, gonna take me awhile to figure it all out cos im dumb.

No you isn't hun...just..er...youthfull... :wink:

good cover :lol:

My god.... i was shocked... really shocked.... What in the hell has happened to the old MLUKFC site that i liked so much???? What the hell is going on.

It really sucks. Not easy to find things, no nice colors. I mean.... this is really terrible. R.... How in the hell have you done this, hope this is an error and that you will change it back real soon!!!

I dont mean to come across nasty or anything like that and if i seems that way i apologise, but Tim did you really have to voice your opinion in a manner such as this? i mean did you have to seem so nasty, ok u dont like it but did u have to say it the way you did?

[Winston]

There's a lot on the front page to take in. It jumps out at you, kinda too much. I think the colour is terrible, maybe a different colour background would look better. One thing I do not like on the front page is where the survey is. Fan~~~~ingtastic??? Definitly should not be there. I don't think there is a need for the language on the front page of what is an excellent website.

[Bren]

There's a lot on the front page to take in. It jumps out at you, kinda too much. I think the colour is terrible, maybe a different colour background would look better.

Have to agree with you there Winston

forgive me for saying this folks.. but i find it rather migraine inducing in it's present colour format

Bren

[original sin]

I really like the colour, I think it has depth and warmth.
I am much happier without the side bar on the forum.
Haven't checked out chat yet - will I be able to get in with my old user name etc?

[R.]

If you don't like the yellow background, just click on the bat top right corner. Give it a try! 8)

[Testify]

how cool! 8) heehee like em both

[shadow1000001]

I really like the blue background. Yellow isn't one of my favorite colors :D

[Cathie]

Whoa! wasn't online yesterday so got a bit of a shock. v cool, bit unsure of the colour so am gonna try changing it in a min. think it's cool. and i'm sure, given time, that i will find my way around! got a bit confused, jen and testify had to guide me around (what would i do without them?), but then i'm always confused!
V different. V cool.

[Cathie]

Hehehehe...i like the blue. I like this, I've got a new toy, even tho it will probably take me a couple of weeks to work out what i'm doing!

I blame youthfullness. if testify can then so can i!
:D

[Vickip]

I really like the blue background. Yellow isn't one of my favorite colors :D

I like the yellow ... but I like the blue a lot better :)
Excellent R !!

Vicki

[Bren]

If you don't like the yellow background, just click on the bat top right corner. Give it a try! 8)

Thanks....much easier to read with blue background


Bren

[Sapphire Lady]

Wow. Yes, the blue is good. :D

[dottie]

Wow. Yes, the blue is good. :D

Ditto Ditto

[Tim]

It still is to painfull to see!!! For me the frontpage represented some quality of a great page. But now it looks cheap, dirty and disgusting!!!

Not to be an asshole, but if you make a page you must look at certain things.... for example, the way that people use the page, the lay out, etc. Here you can see that there are points that this page don't have!!!

Sorry to say, but it is so bad R.!!!

The BUtcher.

[Terri]

We're all creatures of habit and I know from my own experiences, change can at first seem very daunting.

On first impression I thought the new layout was great but it took me a little while to get used to and find my way around the new improved version (Btw anyone who knows me, knows my sense of direction ain't great and I'm always getting lost :roll: but thats just me :lol: )

Now I've become more familiar with the new layout.......I think it's great 8) ......Well done R........Nice one!!!!!!! :D

[original sin]

:oops: OK I have to own up - I've broken it :!: :!:
I thought I'd have a look see what the blue looks like, it's ok but personally I prefer the mustard. However here's the killer :?
It wont change back :cry: :cry:
Help :!: :evil: :roll: :? 8O

[R.]

I have installed another skin for the frontpage.
Use either the bat top right corner to cycle through the themes or select it from the drop down menu.

[Tim]

R. this new lay-out is a pain in the a$$

[R.]

Tim,

i simply don't care if it's a pain in your ass.
And please don't try to teach me lessons on how to build a website.

[Tim]

Tim,

i simply don't care if it's a pain in your ass.
And please don't try to teach me lessons on how to build a website.

R.

Never tried to teach you that. I know you can do that... so why would i even try that. I've got only some remarks and critics on it. That's all.

And.... YOU MUST care if it is a pain in someones ass... Simply for the fact that it is a site that is for a huge group of people. I know you can't all satisfy them.... but to listen to the remarks made, never hurts anyone!!!

The Butcher.

[R.]

Okokok.

Then, besides that you do not like the colours, where's your problem?
Did you actually try to navigate it?

[Tim]

R.

Yes i tried... but i was shocked.... I isn't...euh... how do you say that... You can't see it in one eye flash... I think it is not orderly. It is hard to find you way into it. The menu on the left in the forums disappeared, all those little things what made the MLUKFC so nice to browse and look at, are disappeared. That is hard.

I'm only giving my opinion about it.... I know you work hard on the site, i appreciate it much... But if everybody is telling you that it is good, that is strange... i mean... offcourse everybody has his own toughts about it. Well, these are mine.

The BUtcher.

[R.]

Well, yes - the frameset is gone.
You have more space now for the forum & website content.
So basically you are saying that navigating through the forum is more difficult now?

Back to the main site.
Regarding immediate information perception, there's surely an improvement. The latest 5 articles or news are available immediately on the frontpage, there is no need to click on a link anymore. Did you notice that all information, which was spread on numerous pages and links on the old site, is now available using one link, the topic link?

So - in my eyes - it basically breaks down into two parts:
1. The latest news on the frontpage. If you are just interested in that, you have everything by just entering the site.
2. Older stuff can be found under topics. I can't make it much easier.

And finally, all static links like the gallery and the faqs are listed separetely. Quit easy to go there, imho.

And yes - some of the graphic gimmicks are gone as of now. But that does not mean, they're gone forever.
The 'flying' bat (as an example) will return soon.

And perhaps I'll find a way to bring some (just some, not all) mlukfc-specials back.
I'm not finished yet. Be patient.

And in the meantime, surf and give the site a chance.

[Bren]

And yes - some of the graphic gimmicks are gone as of now. But that does not mean, they're gone forever.
The 'flying' bat (as an example) will return soon.

And perhaps I'll find a way to bring some (just some, not all) mlukfc-specials back.
I'm not finished yet. Be patient.



:mrgreen: i get my "twiddley" bat back :mrgreen:

Bren

[original sin]

:cry: I can't ge the yellow back :!: :!:
Blue = Blue
Yellow = Blue
Xp = different and ok

But why wont the yellow come back :??: :evil:

[Michel]

Personally I think that the people who are not very good in computers like the navigation of the website. I think it is very simple and easy.

[R.]

:cry: I can't ge the yellow back :!: :!:
Blue = Blue
Yellow = Blue
Xp = different and ok

But why wont the yellow come back :??: :evil:

The theme setting is stored in a cookie on your computer.
Try this:

(1) Empty youor browsers cache (Temporary Internet Files)
(2) Delete the mlukfc.com/site cookie or all cookies.

[dottie]

I really like the grey - restful :D

[Michel]

I also like the gray. :D

[Crystal Eyes]

Woah! 8O God, I go away for a couple of days and everythings changed! 8O Gave me a shock.
I like the new lay out. Much easier to navigate but I'm not sure about the mustard yellow. Tried it on the blue and that looks a little better. Grey was just boring. But i reckon I can get used to it. So overall good job R.
Crystal

[original sin]

Thank you R. it worked :mrgreen:

[dottie]

OOh 8) with one click I can also change the album covers topictures of meat

[Testify]

ohhhhh yeah. lol only just noticed. :lol:

[Chris]

Well, I ahve to say that after palying for a few days, i definitly prefer the new layout!!

The main advantage is in getting rid of those blooming bars formt he forums!! I always used to have to link straight to the forum page in order to avoid them appearing!!!

[Bren]

Well, I ahve to say that after palying for a few days, i definitly prefer the new layout!!

The main advantage is in getting rid of those blooming bars formt he forums!! I always used to have to link straight to the forum page in order to avoid them appearing!!!

I have to disagree Chris,
I had a link to the forum,with the bars, saved to "favourites"...i am still, through choice using that link.Apart from being nice to look at ,to me it gives "a sense of place" to the forum.
Without it, yes there is more space...so?...but it is cold and uninviting.
Few, if any , will share my opinion of that i'm well aware.
To me, part of the enjoyment of coming to MLUKFC, was that as well as being an excellent site,and providing all the facts and information, it was also visually a nice place to visit.It was like entering a different little world/environment..that added to the pleasure of coming here.
Now, ...yes the information is all there and accessible, but i find the new layout, stark, cold, factual and uninviting.To ME, it no longer has the visual appeal and therefore has lost that special something that set it apart.
This is just my opinion ,i am biased because i love all the graphics and to me the more artistic the layout is the more it appeals to me.
Each to his own

I have no doubt i will get used to it in time,and i do love this site.

Bren

[dottie]

Front page DISCLAIMER, spell check, should read RESPONSIBLE :!: :!: :!: :!: :)

[dottie]

Front page DISCLAIMER, spell check, should read RESPONSIBLE :!: :!: :!: :!: :)

OK Fixed :wink:

[dottie]

Oh wow, we've the original front page back as well - spoilt for choice here :D

[Tim]

Original site back???? let's hope so... will check it out. That would be the improvement of the year i think!

[Tim]

Okay seen it..... not even close to the classic one!!! Comon R.... why this terrible refreshment of the site????
It sucks big time!

Not user friendly at all!!!

[R.]

Listen, if you don't like it. Fine. Live with it.
And ... you'd better fix your signature before I do it.

[Crystal Eyes]

:D Yay! Classic graphics back. Thanks R. I'm happy again.

[Bren]

Okay seen it..... not even close to the classic one!!! Comon R.... why this terrible refreshment of the site????
It sucks big time!

Not user friendly at all!!!

Tim,
i have to say something here
I for one appreciate the fact that R. has added "mlukfc classic" option to the opening page.
He has tried to give us an option that although in the new format/layout, whatever...retains something of the look and feel of the original, and i appreciate him taking the time and effort to do that.
The way i see it is,he has listened to feedback, and comments made and is trying to create an option that will appeal to people like myself, who loved all the graphics/artwork of the original.
Even if you don't like the result,surely you can appreciate what he is trying to do
The layout has changed......but within that he is trying to give us choice
You can't please everybody......but by giving us options/themes he is giving it the chance to appeal to as wide a range as possible

just my opinion ....

Bren

[R.]

Another hint:
While browsing with the [mlukfc.classic] skin:
If you click on the Community (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/classic.htm) link on the old website background (below Meat's guitar), you'll find the forum as it used to be for the last 3 years.

Ok, one exception: the bat on top "twiddles" now. 8)

[Bren]

Wheeeeeeeeee! Twiddley Bat, Twiddley Bat :D :D

Thank you R. :mrgreen:

Would write more , but i'm too busy playing with the bat :lol: :lol:


Bren

[Bren]

PS....i'm not insane :lol: :lol: really :lol:

Just happy :D :D

Thanks, much appreciated :D

Bren

[dottie]

R. you have given everyone so much choice, thank you. A job very well done :D

[Terri]

R. you have given everyone so much choice, thank you. A job very well done :D
:D Yeah I agree, something for everyone..............Great 8)

[Michel]

I disagree with Tim, and we spoke about it on MSN. I think the site is very user friendly.

Great that the classic look is back, but I like the grey more.

[Guppie]

I like the new main site very much. Had to get used to it of course, but it's better. I chose the blue background, very nice that you can choose the colour you like best. I also like that you can see on the main site in which topic was last responded. Much easier to keep up with think.
Good job, R. 8)

[Tim]

I will live with it.

But R..... i didn't ask you to remove my quote.... so will you please put it back!!!

Thanks.

Tim

[Michel]

Even the classic part is better than it was.

Did you do it all in PHP, R.?

[R.]

The website is 99% PHP now. So to answer your question, Yes.
The "classic" forum frameset is using flash for the rollover effects.

[Michel]

That makes the classic frameset better than it was.

I also need to use flash to make a game for school. I think it's a very good program.

[dottie]

Just noticed the different quotes at bottom of page too :lol:

[ChrissybabezNI]

This site has been on the go since 1999?? where have I been???