[color=red]This Can't Be True??!![/color]

[Debbi V]

To all the UK fans -

Someone posted on OIFC that Meat has been rushed to the hospital for emergency treatment!! Is this true?! Here in the US, we're dying to get the truth - can you foks in the UK help with this?

Debbi V

[ROSIE]

Hi Dottie and I have seen this and are checking out on B'ham news but there has already been one hoax message posted there so lets hope it is not true

Rosie

[Debbi V]

God, I hope this is just another cruel hoax (I'm not even going to say joke because it just isn't funny)! :evil:

Thanks for keeping an eye on this - much appreciated!!!

Debbi V

[ROSIE]

Nothing on BBC Birmingham news I'll keep looking can anyone at the fan club contact his management


Rosie

[Cheese Head]

Rosie, I don't know where you live. You might get a quicker response if you call the news channel themselves to confirm the bad news. I hope it's not true. Meat GET WELL!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ROSIE]

We've tried a recorded message is all you get and the poster has not identified which radio station/ i'll keep trying

Rosie

[mdoggett]

I've just watched the local Brimingham news and there was no mention of it. I've been through all the Sky news channels and no mention. I've checked all the local Birmingham news channels on the internet and no mention. Unless the news is being kept secret I think this may be a hoax as it all started with one guy on the OIFC site saying he'd seen in on the local Birmingham news

[ROSIE]

I'm beginning to think you are right someone has already posted on there today that the rescheduled manchester gig had been cancelled and the MEN deny this



Rosie

[Debbi V]

I'll pop over to OIFC and post what's been found (or not) so far.

Thanks, guys - Debbi V

[ROSIE]

I have posted on the oifc and asked the originator to say which news channel he heard it on so we can verify



Rosie

[Debbi V]

Steve G. just posted again on OIFC:

"Well Just heard an update: Meat is currently in a intensive care unit an Birmingham Hospital, under going major tests may need a operation but uncertain yet the tour may well be cancelled and rescheduled for some time in spring if all is ok but meat’s advisors are advising him to retire from live gig’s permanently for his long term health. Please all of us pray for the king of rock Meat Loaf. Get well soon meat the uk loves ya. [ if anyone else here’s anything let us all know ] "

Where is he getting this info that no one else iss seeing??

Debbi V

[ROSIE]

i have asked steve again to say where he got this info

Rosie

[shadow1000001]

I hope that he is wrong. Too bad he wouldn't say where he is getting his information.

[original sin]

ok deep breaths - first think is this person a regular oifc poster

remember there are certain people that get their kicks like this and have been going around posting dodgy stuff for a long time.

Having said that - i think it warrents an official answer and will email oifc urgently asking for confirmation.

If Anne or R. can email the management company that'd be great also anyone who has any contact please use these

[bambi]

wots the addy 4 the oifc site??

[ROSIE]

Have already done this no reply from OIFC and R is offline


Rosie

[ROSIE]

I note that steve g has not left an email address


still think this is a hoax can anyone local to B'ham check ceefax


Rosie

[ROSIE]

Steve has justb posted Central News on againa t 9 or 9.30 I'll be at work pls let me know


Rosie

[bambi]

:x CAN SUM1 PLZ GIVE ME THE ADDRESS OF THE SITE

[Debbi V]

www.meatloaf-oifc.com sorry it took me so long. Debbi V

[Guppie]

http://www.meatloaf-oifc.com/

Let's hope it isn't true. :?

[original sin]

can someone check www.carlton.com/centralnews

you can watch the lastest bullitin on line but my computers not got the right bits

[original sin]

I have just phoned ITV central news emergency number from the website

they have no info but are going to check direct with the news desk and phone me back

[ROSIE]

I can't find anything on the website


Rosie

[ROSIE]

anything sin, I have to get ready for work I'll keep checking back



Rosie

[Debbi V]

I'll take care of posting back to OIFC once there's news - OK? Love them bookmarks!

[original sin]

OK - lady has just phoned back from ITV Carlton - apparently central news west covers birminghamand she has said that they cannot confirm this story as they did not run it tonight

[shadow1000001]

So with any luck, this is a hoax then.

[Debbi V]

So - can I breathe now? Where did this guy get his info if it didn't run? Hoax then, right?

[Debbi V]

Oh look - I made it to Junior!! I'll post to OIFC now. Debbi V

[mariella]

I also just received an email from central news...they are not covering it!!!
in other words know Nothing about this...
Please, I am leaving for London in the morning!

xxx

Mariella

[original sin]

Couldn't you just string some people up?

[shadow1000001]

I would love to get my hands on him right now :evil:

[ROSIE]

I'm first in the queue to string the little s..t up


Rosie

[Bigmomma]

now i know why they used to hang, draw and quarter people.
i think my heart has started to beat properly now.
kezzina

[Hellcat]

I also just received an email from central news...they are not covering it!!!
in other words know Nothing about this...
Please, I am leaving for London in the morning!

xxx

Mariella


hope everything goes well, have fun, and give a scream for me.

[ROSIE]

I'll let Dottie know

Rosie

[shadow1000001]

now i know why they used to hang, draw and quarter people.



You got that right :evil:

[ROSIE]

THE ~~~~~~~ HAS ADMITTED IT A HOAX ON OIFC I'M FIRST WITH THE ROPE


ROSIE

[original sin]

that little shite steve g - aka - i think i know who you are has just posted on the oifc -

well meat loaf suckx anyway he should be there!!!!

christ i wish i could get my hands on him

[ladyloaf69]

just wait till meat hears about this . i can't wait to hear meats reaction

[Bigmomma]

well he thought it was funny when it was in the paper many years
ago that he had died on stage, but that was when it was a genuine mistake
i think it is obvious who has probably done this sick trick, i think anyway
that their is only one person sick enough.
kezzina

[ROSIE]

I'm off to work now not in the best of moods as you can imagine the arsehole is still ranting on OIFC lets hope he catches something unpleasant galloping knob rot preferably. It shows how loyal his true fans are!!!!!


Rosie

[Bigmomma]

dont give him a second thought when you get to work or you will be giving everyone enemas,take care Rosie.
kezzina

[ROSIE]

I know who I would like to give an enema too a three foot one



Rosie

[Bigmomma]

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: i know what you mean

kezzina

[ChoccyBat]

Just logged on tonight and got the shock of my life. Intensive care is serious - what a disgusting joke!

It seems most people know who this 'Steve G' is, but I can't figure it out. Anyone give any clues?

If they're registered on this forum I think they should be kicked off. For good.

[CarylB]

Well as the same person (and I use the word in its loosest sense) has claimed the dubious honour of posting the hoax message about the rescheduled Manchester concert being cancelled, I think we can safely assume the whole story about Meat's admission to hospital is a pack of wicked lies.

Choccybat wrote
If they're registered on this forum I think they should be kicked off. For good.

Agreed .. but difficult when people register with different names, email addies and changing ISPs .. another advantage of a subscription site .. you know who people are, and can eject them and lock the bloody door !

[ChoccyBat]

So do we actually know who this person is, or do we just know that it is the same person that posted the previous hoax?

[Bigmomma]

well their are quite a few people thinking the same person but no proof as
yet.
kezzina

[heat]

But if it is the person that we are all thinking it is, then he seriously needs psychiatric help.

I mean, what kind of mind can post something like that as a hoax and find it funny???

[Bigmomma]

heat i dont think he did find it funny, i think he just wanted to upset and
wind up as many meat fans as possible.
kezzina

[heat]

heat i dont think he did find it funny, i think he just wanted to upset and
wind up as many meat fans as possible.
kezzina

Well he certainly succeeded in doing that. :evil:

But what i meant Kez, was that with his mentality, he would find our reactions to his hoax, funny.

[mariella]

But if it is the person that we are all thinking it is, then he seriously needs psychiatric help.

I mean, what kind of mind can post something like that as a hoax and find it funny???
Sad, but true, Heat!
Feeling sorry for such a person seems appropriate...the other option is 'killing him', one I do not support. He must have been frustrated, poor boy...

GDTY,

Mariella

[shadow1000001]

heat i dont think he did find it funny, i think he just wanted to upset and
wind up as many meat fans as possible.
kezzina

and he definately achieved it :evil:

[heat]

But if it is the person that we are all thinking it is, then he seriously needs psychiatric help.

I mean, what kind of mind can post something like that as a hoax and find it funny???
Sad, but true, Heat!
Feeling sorry for such a person seems appropriate...the other option is 'killing him', one I do not support. He must have been frustrated, poor boy...

GDTY,

Mariella


I'm not sure i feel sorry for him Mariella - that would imply that i actually care about him - i don't. I feel nothing for him, except anger and annoyance at his actions.

[mariella]

heat i dont think he did find it funny, i think he just wanted to upset and
wind up as many meat fans as possible.
kezzina

and he definately achieved it :evil:
Well, the 'fun' didn't last too long!
We should be 'warned' for any future events!

xxx

Mariella

[Bigmomma]

when you get an abusive caller the one thing they look for is a reaction,
isnt that right, you know the gasp of horror, if you laugh at them, they
put the phone down, so the one thing he was looking for was the
shock and horror that we found at his news.
secondly he wasnt wanting to do a joke if he had of been he would of used one of his many names, instead he used yet another alias, i think
your right this guy is ill.
kezzina

[mariella]

Choccybat wrote
If they're registered on this forum I think they should be kicked off. For good.

Agreed .. but difficult when people register with different names, email addies and changing ISPs .. another advantage of a subscription site .. you know who people are, and can eject them and lock the bl**dy door !
...THIS is why I never had any problem with the new 'pay'-site (sure it will not cost That much!)! Everyone who did have a problem with it...think again, please!

GDTY,

Mariella

[Kathy]

...THIS is why I never had any problem with the new 'pay'-site (sure it will not cost That much!)! Everyone who did have a problem with it...think again, please!
GDTY,
Mariella

Really good point, Mariella.
I can't believe this whole thing. How could the guy be so mean?
-Kathy

[Vickip]

Choccybat wrote
If they're registered on this forum I think they should be kicked off. For good.

Agreed .. but difficult when people register with different names, email addies and changing ISPs .. another advantage of a subscription site .. you know who people are, and can eject them and lock the bl**dy door !
...THIS is why I never had any problem with the new 'pay'-site (sure it will not cost That much!)! Everyone who did have a problem with it...think again, please!

GDTY,

Mariella

You are absolutely right Mariella !!
Vicki

[Vickip]

I'm not sure i feel sorry for him Mariella - that would imply that i actually care about him - i don't. I feel nothing for him, except anger and annoyance at his actions.

I feel exactly the same way Heat ....
Vicki

[original sin]

Although Steve G had been smoked out and admitted his cruel hoax - I have heard that the oifc contacted the management company who also denied the rumour.

Due to the time differnece I've only just picked this up - but thanks to oifc for their assistance

[Pixiedust]

when i saw this first i was sad and felt sick, i thought it was true, my
mom hasnt been letting me come on a lot as there was trouble and
i have been busy with my junior cert.
then i couldnt decide if it was true or not when i saw my moms message i realised it was someones idea of a sick joke, and i still felt sick.
they arent ill, even a sick mind couldnt think something like that up.
pixie

[Mr.Skulls]

ggggggrrrrrrr :evil: some ppl do need summat bad to happen to 'em

[Cpl Mickey]

when i first read the post i though "Oh my God no" then read it again and realised it was a hoax. I mean somene as big as Meat Loaf it would have been all over the news. Don't worry though as a higher power than on Earth will judge him and HE will get his comeuppance :wink:

[Bigmomma]

unfortunately my daughter came on before i managed to tell her
about this, she is as disgusted as the rest of us... :evil:
kezzina

[ROSIE]

I wonder what the G stands for in Steve G, gobshite, gorilla, ghastly,grunge. gormlous. any more!!!

Rosie I prefer Steve GOBSHITE

[Bigmomma]

so do i Rosie,personally i called him a lot more than that when my
daughter was upset when i came home from shopping :evil: only
yesterday afternoon i told her she could go on the forum today, then
she stayed over at a pals so i didnt tell her about this, i am so mad,
of course being a kid she belived it :evil: if i could get a hold of the*#~*~
kezzina

[shadow1000001]

I wonder what the G stands for in Steve G, gobshite, gorilla, ghastly,grunge. gormlous. any more!!!

Rosie I prefer Steve GOBSHITE


I can think of a few more Rosie but I don't think that they will let me print them here :twisted:


Maria

[Bigmomma]

if they are the ones i am thinking of i dont think he will either... :twisted:
kezzina

[shadow1000001]

if they are the ones i am thinking of i dont think he will either... :twisted:
kezzina


They probably are...great minds :twisted:


Maria

[Bigmomma]

if they are the ones i am thinking of i dont think he will either... :twisted:
kezzina


They probably are...great minds :twisted:


Maria

definetley Maria, :twisted:

kezzina

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

You can rule me out! been away from home since Thursday just got home [2 shows in Cheltnham and gloucester] so please dont infer its me Caryl [oifc posting]you may not like some of my views but i wouldnt set up such a cruel hoax whoever did this needs hanging up by the b*******

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

Who are you all going to point the finger at next! Winston? Michael? smeghead?? anyone that has a different opinion than the majority!

[SueW]

Please let's nip this in the bud now!!!

Steve G has admitted that it was his cruel hoax and I'm sure that nobody on this board would even contemplate doing such a thing.

As of this moment, the concerts resume tomorrow so I suggest that we all just look forward to these and that no posts are made that make it neccessary for us to lock this thread.

Sue
http://www.KasimInfo.com

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

Sue i have just recieved a abusive pm from BIG MOMMA saying she thinks i posted this cruel hoax! it seems to me you knock 1 on here and they all fall down! Going off other postings although my names not mentioned big momma is trying to infer to others its me . I dont know when this posting was made on the oifc but i can tell you this Thursday i was making arragements to go to the men arena , first thing friday i set off for 2 gigs in cheltnham i have just got home today [sunday]! the tel number of the club is 01242 521172! i performed there for 2 SELL OUT SHOWS! i am f****** sick of coming here to be slagged off by the likes of you know who!big momma you say you think i am responsible, even though i am away from home and you say i posted at an internet cafe!!!!! WTF you really need to get a life you may not like me BUT DONT GO AROUND SPREADING UNWARRENTED MALICIOUS LIES your accusattions are grossly unfair and i ask you to ring the club and ask if we were playing there friday and saturday and we left today at 1pm!!!!!!! and people wonder why i lose my f****** temper GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT I love meat and i respect him as much as anyone here , i have critisized some of his performances as many have done recently but i would never post such a cruel hoax i put it to those that think its me , youve been listening to my arch enemy caryl b to much !!

[Bigmomma]

excuse me but i have kept all your messages and you have done a lot of swearing at me and i have never posted on the oifc message board.
you sent me a mesage asking me to say i thought it was you then you
sent me a lot of messages how sad i was etc.
i told you to take me to court if you thought i was being slanderous
it is merely my opinion, if you dont like it tough.
kezzina

[CarylB]

I don't like anything very much about you Dean, but please keep your paranoia off this forum. I have made no reference to you on the OIFC board. Take your own counsel about posting things which are defamatory

As to being an arch enemy .. I wouldn't give you that much effort. I just respond when you overstep the mark.

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

Excuse me! You say on the boards you think you know who it is, i asked you who? and you pmd me back saying you thought it was me! i told you i was on tour and could prove my whereabouts for the last 3 days [ie away from home ! ]with no access to the net , and you say i must have posted at an internet cafe! my reply did contain foul language because im f***** sick of the crap i get from people like you on here! I HAVE NOT POSTED THE CRUEL HOAX AND I CAN PROVE IT RING THE F**** CLUB I HAVE BEEN AT FOR THE LAST 3 DAYS !

[Vickip]

I don't like anything very much about you Dean, but please keep your paranoia off this forum. I have made no reference to you on the OIFC board. Take your own counsel about posting things which are defamatory

As to being an arch enemy .. I wouldn't give you that much effort. I just respond when you overstep the mark.

Very well said ... I couldn't agree with you more Caryl.
Vicki

[Vickip]

How does that old saying go Dean .....
if the shoe fits, wear it !!

Vicki

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

whats the other saying "knock one they all fall down"

[Bigmomma]

keep knocking we are not going to fall, and sorry but i have your posts saved, you must have had the booking done quick as werent you due at
a concert the other day?
if you want me to send you a copy of the post where you used foul language i will, but come on where is the abuse i used?
also, yes i did say you could of used a internet cafe, so? is that abusive?
kezzina

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

1. You pmd me saying- " I think you started the hoax" that is SLANDER!
it is by its content ABUSIVE


2. I was supposed to be at the M E N Thursday [spent all day cancelling limos and hairdresser appointments!

3 my bookings are secured months in advance ie i am fully booked at the moment until july 04 [3 shows a week]

not that it is any of your business!

[CarylB]

Actually I think you'll find Dean that to say to someone "I think you did ...." is called an accusation. Slander is the spoken word, and is when someone says something defamatory about someone else to a third party .. which was not the case here .. nor of course was it slander as it was not the spoken word.

Who was it said the person who represents himself has a fool for a lawyer?

[kaz]

Bloody hell- i've just read everything
firstly my heart is still beating far too fast- that was a sick post by a bloody minded sick....grrrrrr there are no words to desribe how evil they are!!!!! i would dearly like to do 101 things that are far from polite to mention on such a sophisticated and polite board!

Dean will you just breathe! things have been said in the heat of the moment and personal opinions have got out of hand, so can everyone take a step back and go back to being the polite, funny Meat fans that i joined this forum to get to now?

thanx!

[Asha]

I think hoaxes will be played and this was not the last one.......

But the more we talk about those hoaxes the more the people that post them like it and have fun, and will post even more....and they'll be more cruel as well.....

And as for who posted them, I couldn't care less. I'm just glad I don't have a sick little mind like that.

My 2 cents, thanka for letting me rant...

Asha

[Dave]

Please let's nip this in the bud now!!!

I could not agree more Sue! I am reading over pages and pages of rambling about a hoax - I think the board would be better served to focus on factual discussion about issues regarding Meat, rather than playing "he said/she said" on and on.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

Couldnt agree more David, but when you recieve a pm accusing you of posting the hoax message what are you supposed to do ignore it, if my accuser as pmd me saying i started it who else is she gossiping to?? IT WASNT ME I WAS ON TOUR AND I CAN PROVE IT ! there are some sad individuals on here.

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

Just been informed that the hoax was posted just before 10pm on friday night i was on stage 915 until 11pm!! in cheltnham so it couldnt be me! unless i had chance to post it during a 2 minute costume change at the internet cafe in town!!!!!!! BIG MOMMA i want a public apology !!!!!!

[original sin]

I could not agree more Sue! I am reading over pages and pages of rambling about a hoax - I think the board would be better served to focus on factual discussion about issues regarding Meat, rather than playing "he said/she said" on and on.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

I have to agree on this one.

but for the record after reading the last few posts would like to confirm that this hoax post actually started before 6.30pm friday.

Who ever what ever it was a wicked thing to do.
There is a lot coming up and we should be wellwishing not ill wishing

And I agree with Asha

I think hoaxes will be played and this was not the last one.......

But the more we talk about those hoaxes the more the people that post them like it and have fun, and will post even more....and they'll be more cruel as well.....

It was brought here it was resolved and I hope and pray we dont get a repetion

[Dave]

Okay, why dont we move on to more productive topics?

Hummmm????

ROCK ON MOVIN ON!!!

[Debbi V]

OK, guys -

The hoax was uncovered and we're done, in my opinion. It was awesome to see all of the fans, even those who have had differences, unite to solve the problem.

Well, it's solved - that's it - it's over! Thanks again to all of you who rose to the occasion. David's right - let's move on now.

With much affection to all - Debbi V

[Asha]

Well this topic could be closed....mmhh

[Vickip]

I could not agree more Sue! I am reading over pages and pages of rambling about a hoax - I think the board would be better served to focus on factual discussion about issues regarding Meat, rather than playing "he said/she said" on and on.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

I have to agree on this one.

but for the record after reading the last few posts would like to confirm that this hoax post actually started before 6.30pm friday.

Who ever what ever it was a wicked thing to do.
There is a lot coming up and we should be wellwishing not ill wishing

And I agree with Asha

I think hoaxes will be played and this was not the last one.......

But the more we talk about those hoaxes the more the people that post them like it and have fun, and will post even more....and they'll be more cruel as well.....

It was brought here it was resolved and I hope and pray we dont get a repetion

You're absolutely right Sin !!
Vicki

[Dave]

Well this topic could be closed....mmhh

Tempted, but no one has violated anything other than going above and beyond the call of the annoying factor by kicking a dead horse.

;-)

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

[Asha]

lol, very true

[MEAT LOAF TRIBUTE]

Fine! ok! Sin you say the post was made before6-30pm, i have it from sue w it was made around 10pm, to all those that are saying we are flogging a dead horse you aint the ones that have been accused of this cruel hoax! i may be outspoken, voatile, quick tempered but i would not do such a thing .
Anyway for the unbelievers here are my whereabouts last friday

1 set off for show in cheltenham at 12pm [m6 is always busy Fridays]

2 The journey should take 3 hours with a break, it took 4 hours

3 Arrived at venue at 4pm

4 set the stage --- pa lights etc ALWAYS TAKES 2 HOURS!

5 Its now 6pm tea time!

The above proves it wasnt me, if anyone wants to ring the venue its01242 521172

still waiting for the apology big momma!

[Bart]

I dont care who made the hoax and i dont understand why other people care. We are 3 f..ing days later and some people still talk about it, but we should not talk about it HERE in the first place. All these gossip and crap about nothing. Sometimes i hate this forum. its no news or whatsoever, its just the most stupid crap i have ever read from all of you. Euuugh.

[kaz]

sorry! :oops:

[LucyK!]

I have to say, after reading this thread and feeling rather sick - I'm now sat wondering how on Earth Meat would/will feel on seeing this. Because I know if I was him I'd be wondering what the point in working myself stupid doing all these shows was!!!

This forum is made up of some of the most dedicated fans I've ever come across and as far as I'm concerned we shouldn't let someone as sick as "Steve G" even attempt to break that up!! So let's stop wasting our energy hating this guy and remember that as we speak, a certain Mr Loaf is busting his ass making sure we're not disappointed when we go to these shows - I know my energy is certainly going into that!

[kaz]

well said and i'm still sorry for my rant! :oops:

[SueW]

[quote="bruce springsteen"]Fine! ok! Sin you say the post was made before6-30pm, i have it from sue w it was made around 10pm, [quote]

If you read my PM again (you asked me when it happened) my EXACT words were "It was posted sometime before 10.00pm on Friday evening (as that was when I got a phone call about it). "

As I said in my PM if you believe that someone is abusing the PM facility of the board, report them to R but please do not keep posting about it on the board itself.

This was a cruel hoax. The culprit admitted that he did it. End of story.

Each time somebody posts to this thread, it keeps it at the top. Why not all stop posting and it will die the natural death it deserves?

Sue
http://www.KasimInfo.com

[Sue K]

May I just say my piece on this as I have not?

I feel it was a good thing to bring this hoax to light. It angered people enough to bring them out to have their say. It brought fans together in solidarity to show that if it was one among the ranks of those that post here, this behavior will not be tolerated.

We may never know who it was, but we have shown that this behavior will not be tolerated in the future.

Thank you and enjoy your day.

Celebrate the Loaf.

Take Care.

[rick]

right children now that play time is over can we please all grow up and act like adults,even my children dont bicker like this cant you all see the hoaxer has won you have all done exactly what he wanted
all your petty arguments have come to the boil and have turned into a full bloody slanging match.when all this could have been sorted out quickly and painlessly,


This was a cruel hoax. The culprit admitted that he did it. End of story.

Each time somebody posts to this thread, it keeps it at the top. Why not all stop posting and it will die the natural death it deserves



its finnished,end of ,kapputt,finito,pushing up daisys,DEAD AND BURRIED
FORGET IT LETS GO BACK TO WHAT THIS FORUM IS ABOUT,MEAT LOAF
NOT A BLOODY BITCHING BOARD

[Bigmomma]

this is the last i am going to say on the subject, it is the same
reason why i didnt reply to you on the board at first yesterday until
you made the remarks about me.
firstly i make no apologies for my remarks, i am allowed my own
opinions the same as any one else.
secondly, you sent me a pm asking me a question, which i answered
truthfully, i have not told any one else because i wouldnt waste my time.
now for the final message i am going to speak on this, the pm's to my
mind were in private, not for public to see the discussion was between
us, YOU were the one who made it public, you were the one who
fetched the idea of yourself being the hoaxer on to this forum not i.
i never mentioned your name on this forum before, nor would i have
had to but for you pming me.
i now am going to put your name on my disallow list, something i never
thought i would have to do.
i apologise to everyone else for the mess that has come on to something
that was so special, fans coming together, i hope you forgive me.
kezzina

[rick]

big momma,bruce springsteen whoever else please lets draw a line under this NOW

the best solution is dont talk to each other,stop winding each other up ,and dont air your dirty washing in public
big momma thank you for your appology i myself am glad you have drawn a line under this matter

[Winston]

Rick you have just said you want an end to this, now you want a reply from Dean. Make up your mind.