View Full Version : OT:Arrest Warrant for Michael Jackson
Polethebear
19 Nov 2003, 03:56
On Larry King Live,Court TV reporter diane diamond said that not only did they have a search warrant for michael jackson but also an arrest warrant.She could not get a "straight answer" as to if they would go to vegas to get him.Only,that they said you can imagine they are doing everything they can toward that.She also they are not out to ruin him and would make accomdations and work with his attorneys,including possibly turning himself in.
PS-For my european friends,Court TV is a judicaly-themed cable network here in the states.
Rob The Badger
19 Nov 2003, 20:30
In best Hank Hill voice: "That boy ain't right".
A warrant has now been issued and an arrest is imminent....
sherrie87
19 Nov 2003, 21:18
They said about an hour ago that the charges carry a prison sentence of 3 to 9 years, and a bail of $3 million dollars! (Somehow I think that $3 mil is chump change to that freak!)
Sherrie
madonna123968848
19 Nov 2003, 21:24
Hope he is not guilty of anything, am not a big fan but kinda feel a bit sorry for him ...
If he's guilty send him down :evil: :!:
mellis107
19 Nov 2003, 23:12
IF he's guilty...
shadow1000001
19 Nov 2003, 23:27
They said about an hour ago that the charges carry a prison sentence of 3 to 9 years, and a bail of $3 million dollars! (Somehow I think that $3 mil is chump change to that freak!)
Sherrie
I think that you are right.
In best Hank Hill voice: "That boy ain't right".
I agree, Hank! :lol:
ladyloaf69
20 Nov 2003, 01:14
a 12 year old boy has been in thereapy and he told the doctor something about michael jackson that promted a search warrant. he was a friend of michaels , and they hung around together. the police raided the home but haven't said anything else.
Bigmomma
20 Nov 2003, 17:45
i am not sticking up for him or anything cos as you say he isn't quite
normal, but it allways worries me when things come out in therapy.
i remember to many cases of False Memory's have come out, where
therapists have put memories in kids heads and even young adults
heads and torn families apart only for the true facts to come out at
later dates, when the damage is done.
but the thing to remember is where kids are concerned it is better to be
safe than sorry, i don't understand the parents though... :?
i have six children, 4 boys and 2 girls and by god i would not let any
of mine go to stay at any ones house till i know them, the only one of
mine who has ever stayed any where is my fifteen year old, and that is
at a friends house who i have known for seven years.
but no matter how famous a person was they could take a running jump :evil:
sorry it just makes me mad.
kezzina
Innocent till proven guilty. He is a bit weird(or should I say very weird) but he is a big kid and makes himself vulnerable to these sort of accusations. The truth will come out soon, until then, let's not pass judgement.
Even i don't like Micheal Jackson, i feel pitty for him. It ain't just not fair.
But i do like Janet Jackson :lol:
BigMomma you r right again :wink:
I also think that akid should be listened to and actions taken.
If he's innocent then fair enough although I think unlikely.
I remember reading about that last kid he paid off and what the charges would have been, pretty sick stuff :twisted:
madonna123968848
20 Nov 2003, 19:20
Well said Big Momma.
Doubt the truth will ever come out?? I just believe innocent until proven guilty...
Right, here's my thoughts on this....
Firstly - In therapy, many many thoughts and emotions are explored. Thos can be quite harrowing both for counsellor and client, more so especially when the client happens to be a child. I work for a national children's charity and i hear abuse stories from children every single day. It is a proven fact that when a child chooses to speak about abuse it's usually to a trusted adult, i.e. a parent or therapist. It is also a fact that even after a child does tell of abuse, if they then go on to retract thier statement and say that it never happened then they are probably lying. It may not have happened exactly as the child said, but you can bet your bottom dollar that there IS some grain of truth within the lies. It's a hell of a lot easier to build a lie up around a truth then it is to start lying outright.
Guess that the old saying rings true ' No smoke without fire'.
Secondly - Michael Jackson obviously has issues surrounding children. In my professioal opinion he does show a very unhealthy interest in them. You only have to look at the lifestyle to which he has surrounded himself. He lives in a children's paradise - neverland. He has admitted to inviting children - unsupervised by thier parents - to his home. He has admitted getting into bed with a 12 year old child? Why?? Are these really the actions of a normal adult? He seems to think that because of who he is it makes it alright to act the way he does. If you or i had acted in the same way then questions would have been asked way before now. As for the allegations that were made in 1993, we will never get to know the proper truth about what went on, as Mr. Jackson made a cash settlement to the child's parents. Consience money, perhaps???
Just my take on this....
original sin
20 Nov 2003, 19:41
Nail squarely on head Heat!
On a professional level I have had to deal with several abuse situations and it is indeed a very harrowing experience for all concerned.
A basic fact in any Abuse training is that an Abuser will always strive to obtain a situation to gain a postion of trust to enable them to carry out the abuse.
My honest personal opinion is that this particular individual has many deep rooted insecurity issues, and whatever he may or may not of done he needs help.
I think that making your children walk around in masks, dangling them off of balconies coupled with such an apparent phobic state regarding health matters could consitute a degree of abuse towards his own children let alone other peoples.
Just my take
Kitty Kat
20 Nov 2003, 20:49
Lets face it, he is a bit odd but that doesn't make him a child molester. If however he is found guilty then he should do the time. It is a bit trite to say that there is no smoke without fire but he gives his enemies ammunition in the stupid statements he makes during interview - like yes I do share my bed with kids. DOH
Bigmomma
20 Nov 2003, 22:46
sorry yes i missed that bit out on my post, i agree innocent till proven
guilty, but at the same time kids should be kept away from him until
then; i know that isn't fair if he is innocent but let the fairness issue be
sorted out later.
when i said he isnt normal i was refering to dangling his kids and i know
he is trying to protect the kids but hey their is such a thing as going
over the top :? yes i know he missed out on a lot of his childhood and
he has got a lot of issues but well, i dont know i feel sorry for the guy
and i hated what martin bashir did to him but, well.
yes i do think therapists do a great job, i wasn't getting at them sorry
if it came out like that, no i am surprised you dont remember the cases
they were all over the papers at the time, i think about five years ago
some where a therapist was proven guilty of fabricating a number of
cases he had worked on, that was in usa and not long after their was a case in england, but therapists do a fantastic job, we cant tar them all
with the same brush, sorry you thought i was putting them down.
kezzina
Bigmomma
20 Nov 2003, 22:47
sorry yes i missed that bit out on my post, i agree innocent till proven
guilty, but at the same time kids should be kept away from him until
then; i know that isn't fair if he is innocent but let the fairness issue be
sorted out later.
when i said he isnt normal i was refering to dangling his kids and i know
he is trying to protect the kids but hey their is such a thing as going
over the top :? yes i know he missed out on a lot of his childhood and
he has got a lot of issues but well, i dont know i feel sorry for the guy
and i hated what martin bashir did to him but, well.
yes i do think therapists do a great job, i wasn't getting at them sorry
if it came out like that, no i am surprised you dont remember the cases
they were all over the papers at the time, i think about five years ago
some where a therapist was proven guilty of fabricating a number of
cases he had worked on, that was in usa and not long after their was a case in england, but therapists do a fantastic job, we cant tar them all
with the same brush, sorry you thought i was putting them down.
kezzina
ChrissybabezNI
21 Nov 2003, 00:57
Michael Jackson has been in the spotlight from a very young age and has therefore not been able to grow up properly. I think anyone will agree that this has somewhat mentally damaged him. No matter how nice he may seem theres something seriously wrong. What 40 plus year old likes to hang out with 12 year olds and climb trees. He is a seriously strange man but allegations like this have to be taken seriously. What Heat said: as Mr. Jackson made a cash settlement to the child's parents. Consience money, perhaps???
This may be true. But does that in turn not make Jordy's parents irresponsible. I certainly know if I had a child and they got molested I would od everything within my power to get the man locked behind bars. Fourteen million settlement does not pay for the fact that IF he did abuse that young boy, he is still free to do it to some other child. I hope justice is done, but if it turns out that these allegations are true then I hope Jordy Chandlers parents are happy with themselves that they thought fourteen million was more important than pretecting other children.
Bigmomma - I can remember the instances that you are on about - Regressive therapy is still quite contraversial within the therapy community. There are many many types of thereapy available and i believe it's wrong to tar all thereapist's with the same brush.
But this isn't about the therapists - it's about the fact that a 12 year old child has accused Michael Jackson of behaving towards him in a sexually inappropriate way.
The fact that the police are doing thier job, and doing it well, is to be commended. It is vitally important that when a child makes a statement like this, the first thing that must happen is that the child MUST be believed.
Just because it's Michael Jackson should'nt make him immune to the fact that if he is guilty then he has to face the consequences of his actions.
Yes, Michael Jackson had a horrendous childhood, yes, this has obviously had a detrimental effect on him during his adolesance and on into his adulthood, but this can't be an excuse for his behaviour. It's a tragic fact that adults that have suffered abuse as a child are 30% more likelly to then themselves go onto abuse a child or children then other adults. This isn't me making excuses for him, or trying to stir up a hornets nest - it's a fact.
Bigmomma
21 Nov 2003, 20:16
Heat, i am not arguing with you, i agree, what i was saying is the
case that i had heard of, that was all, off course i agree that he needs
putting away for a very long time, i have 6 children of my own, for
heavens sake of course he needs keeping away from children, if he is
guilty, and he more than likely is, also i was saying that he needs
keeping away from children until his case comes to court, as he is now
on bail(surprise Surprise) because that way the kids will be safe.
i know their are some very good therapists out their, i have seen some
of them ( i have panic disorder) so i wasn't attempting to tar them all.
i apologise for anything i said that may of made you think that.
yes the police are doing a great job and i think the police should of got involved in the first case.
kezzina
Girls come on now!!
:idea:
What if I abduct MJ and put him in a room full of youz woman?????
Would that settle this discussion????
Bigmomma
22 Nov 2003, 12:15
:twisted: dont tempt me Gerry, i hate to think what i would do....
kezzina
Girls come on now!!
:idea:
What if I abduct MJ and put him in a room full of youz woman?????
Would that settle this discussion????
Believe it or not, Gerry, this was actually meant to be a serious topic....
But, should i ever find myself alone in a room with Mr. Jackson, i would call for the two doctors and a social worker that i need to have him sectioned under the Mental Health Act.
I agree Heat, if he is guilty.
ChrissybabezNI
22 Nov 2003, 23:23
There was something on sky today with all his home movies on it and I feel really sorry for him, but I think all the years of fame have messed him up. I don't know whats going on.
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