Meat Loaf Heart Condition Discussion and Press Releases

[Alex]

Just a little bit of information on Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome for those with a curiosity like mine but aren't that bothered about looking for it. (Compilation of the least confusing medical babble i could find). Didn't know if I should include links to external sites, but these are the sites I got the info off and didn't feel right posting without giving credit.

What is the Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome?

If there's an extra conduction pathway, the electrical signal may arrive at the ventricles too soon. This condition is called Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome (WPW). It's in a category of electrical abnormalities called "pre-excitation syndromes."

It's recognized by certain changes on the electrocardiogram, which is a graphical record of the heart's electrical activity. The ECG will show that an extra pathway or shortcut exists from the atria to the ventricles.

Many people with this syndrome who have symptoms or episodes of tachycardia (rapid heart rhythm) may have dizziness, chest palpitations, fainting or, rarely, cardiac arrest. Other people with WPW never have tachycardia or other symptoms. About 80 percent of people with symptoms first have them between the ages of 11 and 50.

How is this syndrome treated?

People without symptoms usually don't need treatment. People with episodes of tachycardia can often be treated with medication. But sometimes such treatment doesn't work. Then they'll need to have more tests of their heart's electrical system.

The most common procedure used to interrupt the abnormal pathway is radiofrequency or catheter ablation. In this, a flexible tube called a catheter is guided to the place where the problem exists. Then that tissue is destroyed with radiofrequency energy, stopping the electrical pathway. Successful ablation ends the need for medication. Whether a person will be treated with medication or with an ablation procedure depends on several factors. These include the severity and frequency of symptoms, risk for future arrhythmias and patient preference.

reference: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=4785

Frequency:
WPW affects approximately 0.15-0.2% of the general population. Of these individuals, 60-70% have no other evidence of heart disease.

Mortality/Morbidity:
Death from WPW occurs secondary to the associated arrhythmias or from mistreatment of these arrhythmias with inappropriate medications. Little data are available regarding the mortality rate of such arrhythmias, but most studies report the incidence of sudden death in the 0-4% range.

Sex:
Men are affected more often (60-70%) than women. Typically, those affected are young, otherwise healthy individuals.

Age:
Although this disease affects people of all ages, it most commonly is recognized in children and young adults presenting to the ED with an arrhythmia. Conduction speed in the accessory pathway appears to attenuate with age.

Symptoms

Patients may present with anything from mild chest discomfort or palpitations to severe cardiopulmonary distress or arrest. Occasionally, the disease is discovered on routine electrocardiography (ECG) performed for a reason other than acute cardiac symptomatology.
Patients commonly present with heart rates in the 250 beat per minute (bpm) range, often with associated hypotension.
Patients usually are aware of their cardiac condition, but they may be diagnosed in the ED.
WPW has no specific examination features except for those that may accompany the arrhythmias.
On physical examination, the patient may be cool, diaphoretic, and hypotensive.
Crackles in the lungs are common, as the high heart rate causes diastolic heart failure.

reference: http://www.emedicine.com/EMERG/topic644.htm

[meatfan]

I was curious too (having gone into nursing as a cadet straight for school and having a lifetime interest in all things medical).

Put it into a Search-engine - very interesting. Thanks for the post - I think it will help some fans understand that our Hero is not going to depart for many years to come!

Rock-on Meat Loaf! Always knew you were "electrifying"!

Heather.

[LucyK!]

Aww cheers honey - I can always count on you to put things into a language I can ( half ) understand!!!

[heat]

Thanks for posting this info - and in words that we can all understand :D

[Cpl Mickey]

:D Thanks for that it explains it nicely well done

[Juan Llanos]

This link (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/spanish/ency/article/000151.htm) it's in spanish... of course when I read it I search for info...

Thanks to google :D

And thanks to Meat for be here

[ChrisH]

http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_841249.html

Funny how we know more than they do :-)

[Bigmomma]

yes ITV, news and Scots news had the same thing but basically they
were all the same wording.
kezzina

[sherrie87]

The fact that we seem to know far more than the press is a testament to how much Meat cares about his fans- he cared enough to give us the scoop directly from the horses (or more correctly, the Meat's) mouth!

Sherrie

[Vickip]

The fact that we seem to know far more than the press is a testament to how much Meat cares about his fans- he cared enough to give us the scoop directly from the horses (or more correctly, the Meat's) mouth!

Sherrie

Absolutely right Sherrie :)
Vicki

[CarylB]

Actually I thought this one was more accurate than most .. even gave the name of the hospital the Northwick said he'd been transferred to.

[ChrisBelfast]

found this:

Meat Loaf recovers in London after surgery

LONDON (Reuters) - American rock singer Meat Loaf is recovering from heart surgery after collapsing on a London stage last week, his record company says.

The star had surgery to treat Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome, a defect of the heart that causes an irregular heartbeat.

The 56-year-old, famed for his mega-hit "Bat Out Of Hell", was recovering at a private location in London after undergoing surgery last Friday.

The singer collapsed in the middle of a sold-out concert at London`s Wembley Arena last Monday.

"He will be receiving additional tests later this week to determine the success of the procedure after which more details of both his condition and tour plans are expected to be given," his record company said on Tuesday.

[Winston]

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-12934748,00.html

[Shellyb01]

Don't know if really I should have started another subject, or if I should have joined on to the end of another one, and I'm sorry if I'm taking up valuable space where someone else could probably write something decent, but I just wanted to get my feelings down .... :(

I'm really scared for Meat, I'm scared that he's going to colapse and not get up, I'm scared that he's pushing himself too far, I'm scared that he's making himself ill, and I feel silly, but I can't help the way I feel. It's strange to care about someone so much when you don't even really know them.

Am I being daft? :? It's like because I've grown up listening to Meat's music, being excited when I went to my first concert, bored everyone silly with how fantastic an entertainer he is that he's well and truly part of my life, a part of my life I don't really want to let go of. Maybe that's boardering on obsessed?

Anyway, sorry for taking up so much of everyones valuable time, and thanks for listening to me have a good ol' moan!

Keep rockin' Meat, every single one of us love, adores and worships you, stay happy, healthy and loud!!!

Lots of love and hugs to everyone daft enough to read this!

Shelly
xoxoxoxoxoxooxox

[CarylB]

Read what he said on Sunday night Shelly .. he's fine. His condition had now been correctly diagnosed and treated. He will be OK. I have treated many people who have had this surgery, and they are fine once the pathway has been zapped. Stop worrying and look forward to seeing Meat resume in good health.

[Shellyb01]

Caryl,

Thanks .... I did read what Meat wrote, and I still can't stop worrying though, born worrier born and bred, sorry, just always worry, worry if I haven't got anything to worry about me!!

Just started thinking about stuff, and got scared, and worried, and well, y'know!

I just wanted to have a blab to people who kinda understood what I felt, and it made me feel better writing it too!!!

Thanks again for the reasurance, I'm sure he'll be fine, and I'm sure I'm worrying over nothing (I usually do) ...... :D

Shelly xxxx

[Cpl Mickey]

:D Shelly don't ever stop worrying, because without people like you and others like you what a dull world it would be. At least we all know that Meat is on the road to recovery, no matter how long it takes we will be here for him

[Dave]

My father is a nearly 17 year cardiac patient. He has had a 5-way bypass and two cardiac cath procedures in his life. When the old pumper starts acting up, they root around and check out the problem, then he is up and back to his old self in a few days. Typically, a cardiac cath is an outpatient procedure, and I have heard Meat was released the same day as they did his. The reason for the prolonged hospital stay appeared to be due to the fact they did not know the reasoning behind his medical condition and they needed to run some tests.

I am a betting man, and I place a very large wager on the fact that you will not believe the before and after with Meat now that he has had a heart cath procedure with ablation to remove any potential issues. We will more than likely see him pull out the trusty bar stool for the first few shows, but after that - WATCH OUT!!!

It is toally understandable that you should have concerns Shelly, but never fear, Meat will be back and kickin' before we even realize it!!!

ROCK ON CARDIAC CATH!!!

[ChrisBelfast]

Also page 506 on bbc1 ceefax are reporting Meats condition from his post on his fan club website. They also wrote how he told his fans online he hoped to resume the tour sunday

[angel eyes]

:o Shelly - I am sure all the information given by the others is true and hope you feel more at ease than you did. It has been a worrying time for everyone but it was the "not knowing" that made me worry. I am certain that Meat is well on the way to recovery and will be rocking real soon!!

Don't feel silly to worry - this man has touched so many people with his music and his charisma - he brings out the humanisitc side in most people, which is a great quality to possess.

Take care

Love

Angelxxx

[Peat Loaf]

It was reported on the front page of the Glasgow Evening Times last night Meat has been opperated on due to a heart murmer and the paper are well known for beeing truthfull in what they print i dont know how big the opp was but if true it looks like the whole tour will have to be canceld i really really hope not

Pete 8)

[plymboy]

it does seem to one setback after another( no fault of meats) with this tour.im sure meat must be a tiny bit frustrated knowing he cant get up on stage and do what he does best.im sure with time he will recover,i feel sorry for the people that have never seen him perform live and are waiting to see him.i saw him at the plymouth concert and since then there has been quite a few tiny hic ups with the tour.glad i got to see him when i did.fingers crossed for the fans that are waiting to see him,most of all fingers crossd for meat. :D

[SueW]

If you read the post by Fireball at http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2693" you would know that he was operated on for Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome and will be seeing his doctor again on Thursday when he expects to get the all clear to start the tour again on Sunday.

SueW

[Kitty Kat]

If you read the post by Fireball at http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2693" you would know that he was operated on for Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome and will be seeing his doctor again on Thursday when he expects to get the all clear to start the tour again on Sunday.

SueW

Just read an article on dotmusic.com/news/November2003 confirming what you say. Looks like I may be lucky for the Manchester concert on 17 December 2003. :D :D

[Tim]

I've heard it here on the news. Terrible... that ain't no way for Meat Loaf. Hope he will recover soon.

The BUtcher 8O

[CarylB]

Yes .. and the Glasgow Evening Times was the paper that reported so confidently last week that Meat would be appearing at the Glasgow show and quoted their source as Mercury .. which they (Mercury) said was completely untrue ..

As ue has said, Meat has undergone surgery for WPWS which is minimally invasive and which should leave him fitter than ever before .. Hallelujah!! :)

[JenniferSal]

I just saw over on the OIFC board that Meat Loaf is supposed to be on something called London Tonight at 6pm discussing his health and the tour, etc, and didnt notice this posted anywhere here, so i thought id pass the word on. Maybe Meat will clear up the confusion about Sunday's show as well hopefully while he's on the show! Let us know how it goes please, some of us unfortunately cant view the show!

Jen S.

[mariella]

Thank you, Jennifer! :D
I have been to www.bbc.co.uk/london/ and he has been on this afternoon (London news).
You can all watch this online, after 3.33 minutes.

Great day to you,

Mariella

[seagull]

From Ananova.com

Meatloaf admits 'cheating death'

Meat Loaf has spoken about his dramatic on-stage collapse and heart surgery, and admitted: "I cheated death."

The singer was diagnosed with a potentially fatal heart condition after collapsing in the middle of a concert at London's Wembley Arena.

He underwent an operation to correct the defect and has spent the last two weeks recovering.

At a press conference, the 52-year-old singer said he is lucky to be alive after doctors discovered he had Wolff-Parkinson-White Syndrome, a condition which causes an irregular heart beat.

"In a sense I guess I cheated death because of the condition I had," he said.

"The last two weeks have been fairly scary and unlike anything I've gone through before."

Meat Loaf also revealed he had been unwell throughout the summer, but was determined to perform in the UK despite suffering dizziness and fainting spells during earlier gigs in Europe and America.


Story filed: 12:55 Friday 28th November 2003

[mariella]

If you go to www.bbc.co.uk/london/ watch the London news, Meat comes on after 3.33 minutes!

...Looking a Lot better! :D

Great day to you,

Mariella (sorry for the 'double' post!)

[Dave]

Okay, sitting here at work and feel the need to clear something up. I rarely mix work with Meat Loaf, but I feel the need to clear something up. I looked in the medical billing book, and Meat did not have a "surgery." Meat Loaf had a "procedure." A cardiac cath is an outpatient procedure, which is defined as less serious than a surgery. I know it is all semantics, but I do feel it is important to understand exactly what is going on. The ablation process that was also performed is also considered a procedure and not a surgery. I find the need to clear this up due to the fact that I read a similar account of Meat having a heart murmur, which is far more serious than WPW syndrome, which set off a flurry of "Meat Loaf is on his death bed" type of posts on a Rocky Horror forum I frequent. I have personally consulted with a cardiologist and have it confirmed that Meat Loaf will more than likely be doing better a couple of weeks after his procedure than he was doing when he was in high school playing football - the cardiac cath with ablation is just that darn good!

ROCK ON MEDICAL ADVANCEMENTS!!!

[SueW]

If you go to www.bbc.co.uk/london/ watch the London news, Meat comes on after 3.33 minutes!

It's interesting but it doesn't answer the two most burning questions for me:

1) Was the proceedure a total success? (Is Meat Loaf one of the 95%?)
2) When will the tour resume?

SueW

[JenniferSal]

Since ive posted, I checked out what London Tonight is (sorry, didnt know at the time!) and apparently its a news program, so either maybe they'll have more of the same press conference to show OR Meat will in fact be in studio perhaps? Who knows, but hopefully it will give everyone more answers and good news :) !

Take care!

Jen S.

[Mike Piercy]

See Tour Talk, doctors said to have given Meat a clean bill of health - source Manchester Evening News Arena website, confirms concert on 30th. November going ahead.

[MBrevard]

Thank you for the link, Mariella! VERY good to see him!!!! He MUST be feeling better if they had a press conference. I would imagine we'll be hearing and reading all sorts of things from it during the next day or so!

Thanks, Mike! All of you who are going, have a GREAT time!!

Sue, maybe the rest of your answers will come in the London Tonight program this evening!

Hope those of you who get to see it will tell those of us who can't, all about it! :D

Thanks.

Love,
MB
xxx

[Mrs Loaf]

Thats great news about Meat. Thanks for the link to the news clip.

[LP]

Was he carrying a US football or Rugby ball?? I can't tell!

Anyway, he looks well and seemed to be chatting away in his usual style, so that's good!

Luke

[sherrie87]

FYI, he was not in any way being overdramatic by saying that he "cheated death". WPW can cause arrythmias, which can kill in a matter of moments. Even scarier, arrythmias are more common when the person is ill, exhausted or dehydrated- all states that Meat has no doubt experienced, both onstage and off, in the last few months and years. My son is at risk for arrythmias (it is the #1 cause of death for the heart defect he has if not monitored properly) , so I have read a great deal about them, scary ~~~~~~s that they are.

Sherrie

[ladyloaf69]

i can't find the video of meat that u are talking about can someone please help

[sherrie87]

LP said: Was he carrying a US football or Rugby ball?? I can't tell!


Looks like a rugby ball to me- I'd love to see the whole press conference, does anyone know if it was broadcast? He does look good, thank goodness. :D

Sherrie

[Testify]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/realmedia/news/tvnews.ram

yeah it was a rugby ball. :lol:

[sherrie87]

True, the cardiac cath and ablation (which is actually done via cath) is a procedure (as opposed to an operation) but it's by no means a walk in the park. The patient is put completely out, then a catheter tube is inserted into a large vein in their leg and run up into the heart. The ablation is delivered through this tube. The patient usually must remain perfectly still for at least two hours following a cath to prevent bleeding. The main danger in a heart cath is the cath baloon being inflated too big or nicking an artery or valve while in the heart. It's no little thing- my husband's grandmother died while having a cath. It's also true that Meat likely didn't have a murmur- the murmur is caused by altered blood flow or altered structures in the heart, rather than altered electrical impulses. If he did have one, it could be from the additional pathway that was ablated, but most likely he didn't have one. My son's murmer is so odd that his cardiologist calls in med students at every appointment just to hear it. Yes, Meat is probably healthier (in a cardiac sense) now than he was as a high school athlete, good point David.

Sherrie

[Feleena]

Hi

My hubby has had a heart condition since his heart attack in 1993.
He had and iregular heart rate and now is treated with a pacemaker/defribulator its changed his life!
Rock on modern medicine!

He also has experienced a angiogram to and yes he had to keep still afterwards! I remember passing his cup of tea with a straw to him!

Glad to see Meat is on the mend!

Hugs
Feleena

[Eva]

H U R R A ! ! ! ! :D

MEAT is back!
Thanks God!!!!!

Love
Eva

[dottie]

London Tonight is on ITV 1 at 6.00pm

[PanicLord]

Just seen Meat on London news online - looking tired, but fit!!! Also, as usual, he plays havoc with his audience :)

[The Flying Mouse]

Thread split from Loaf Camera Action - short notice TV apperances.

This is more to do with Meat himself rather than his acting career :wink: .

[Bigmomma]

thank you for the link, well he really is a lucky guy, thank goodness.
take care meat, and take it easy, and keep doing as the docs tell you.
kezzina

[Dave]

Merged two similar topics into one to prevent board clutter.

ROCK ON FIRE BALL!!!

[tbuck]

Thanks Jen and Mariella,
so cool to see the interview.

Meat has also been all over Fox News here in the US, yesterday and today. Came on this morning while we were talking to my Dad, he was surprised. More accurate than some accounts.

We called Jules' folks in AZ, they read earlier this week that Meat was about a goner! This was shortly after Meat posted the truth here. Gotta respect his concern for the fans :D , and also wonder about some of the media's accurracy. :roll:

T

[BadAttitude]

Thanks for the link. It looks like I might have to move to the Uk since Meat likes it there so much and does so many shows in the UK,
Not to mention that the UK seems to give Meat better news coverage then here in the US.

Love & Happiness
Autumn (BadAttitude)

[Juan Llanos]

In a local newspaper of Spain today there's a small news about Meat... it's just compare the healthcare of USA and UK.

here is the news (http://www.nortecastilla.es/edicion/prensa/noticias/Contraportada/200311/29/VAL-ULT-214.html)

And a photo (http://www.nortecastilla.es/edicion/prensa/fotos/200311/29/072D6VP7_1.jpg)

[ChrissybabezNI]

I don't speak much Spanish but I managed to get the gist of the article tho I like the El rockero bit :)

[Shawmtloaf]

What a guy!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3247268.stm

Ewan :)

[mladay]

Hey Ewan thanx for the link.

Ian (mladay)

[ROSIE]

Thank-you

Rosie :wink:

[ChrissybabezNI]

Thanx for the link

Chrissy x

[Cpl Mickey]

:D Thanks Ewan.

[Shawmtloaf]

aww!

you are very welcome!
you guys are luvely!!!

take care
from ewan :D

[Cpl Mickey]

:D Thanks David.

[Shawmtloaf]

In the Sun newspaper 29/11/03...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003551822,,00.html

Take care
Ewan :)

[dottie]

ongapisa, thanks for posting that article.

[original sin]

Ongapisa thanks for the link - nice little piece

Still hoping he makes it to Sapin for you....................... :wink:

[Tim]

Thank you very much for this link. Indeed a scary period of time for the man.

The Butcher

[TimboTambo]

try this as well

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/news/newswire.php/news/reuters/2003/11/28/entertainment/meatloafsaysshowmustgoon.html&template=/entertainment/templates/newswire/entertainment_news_story.html

[shadow1000001]

thanks for the links :D

[shadow1000001]

I like that picture :D

[Woman of Steel]

It's a good thing I can read Spanish. I loved that picture.

[black dog]

Thanks for the news.

[Cpl Mickey]

:D Ongapisa Thanks for the link i had a look and although i don't speak Spanish, you can get the jist of it and the pic is great well done :D

[mladay]

Hey thanx for the link timnoble99uk nice photo too hey.

Ian (mladay)

[Dave]

Merging this into the "press releases" topic to avoid clutter.

[Dave]

Moved to the press releases topic on the General forum.

[Dave]

Moved to press releases topic under General forum.

[blaze]

Good to see that he is getting well.
But he does look, extremely tired,but I suppose that is no surprise.
With all the health worrys and stress he has been under lately.
Just hope he gets better with no more pressure.

[Di]

I hope he takes the time he may need to truly get back 100%, and does not rush to return to performing before he may be completely well, rested, and fit. The fans, although disappointed, can wait certainly. Will be much better to see him when he is strong and can rock the venues...

Has anyone heard if there is any prayer or hope that he will return to California after the holidays to make up a few cancelled concerts here as well? I had tickets to two that were cancelled, and I would absolutely love another opportunity to see him in concert again. I saw him at Universal last summer, and it was just great to experience him performing the music live.

Feel better soon Meat, and please take care of yourself first and foremost!

Di

[Vickip]

Has anyone heard if there is any prayer or hope that he will return to California after the holidays to make up a few cancelled concerts here as well? I had tickets to two that were cancelled, and I would absolutely love another opportunity to see him in concert again. I saw him at Universal last summer, and it was just great to experience him performing the music live. :)

Feel better soon Meat, and please take care of yourself first and foremost!

Di

Hopefully he will be able to make those shows up .... maybe during the 2nd leg of the US tour :??: I'm sorry ... I could be wrong, but I just don't see that happening until next September. Now he's going to be in the UK through January, and then Australia in February and March .... so that's probably the first chance he would get. Hopefully I'll get the chance to see him again in Atlantic City ... but we'll just have to wait and see what happens :)

Right you are .. take care of yourself Meat !!

Vicki

[Di]

Hopefully he will be able to make those shows up .... maybe during the 2nd leg of the US tour :??: I'm sorry ... I could be wrong, but I just don't see that happening until next September. Now he's going to be in the UK through January, and then Australia in February and March .... so that's probably the first chance he would get. Hopefully I'll get the chance to see him again in Atlantic City ... but we'll just have to wait and see what happens :)

Right you are .. take care of yourself Meat !!

Vicki

:( Well.... I may have to catch him in Atlantic City then if he makes it there, moving in the beginning of the year to the East Coast I believe. Would be fun to travel to Australia though to see him in February.... ;) Never been there before and would love to go.

But his health and well being are the most important thing.... and this tour has obviously been very, very hard on him. :(

Thanks for replying.
:)
Di

[Vickip]

Hopefully he will be able to make those shows up .... maybe during the 2nd leg of the US tour :??: I'm sorry ... I could be wrong, but I just don't see that happening until next September. Now he's going to be in the UK through January, and then Australia in February and March .... so that's probably the first chance he would get. Hopefully I'll get the chance to see him again in Atlantic City ... but we'll just have to wait and see what happens :)

Right you are .. take care of yourself Meat !!

Vicki

:( Well.... I may have to catch him in Atlantic City then if he makes it there, moving in the beginning of the year to the East Coast I believe. Would be fun to travel to Australia though to see him in February.... ;) Never been there before and would love to go.

But his health and well being are the most important thing.... and this tour has obviously been very, very hard on him. :(

Thanks for replying.
:)
Di

You're welcome Di !

I agree .... his health is the most important thing. Thankfully his heart
surgery was a success, and it sounds like he's going to be just fine :)
I would give anything to be there in Australia to see him in February ... those shows are going to be amazing :))

Atlantic City in September has been our little tradition over the last few years .... September 2001 (the first time I saw him live), September 2002, September 2003 ... and I just hope he doesn't forget that and can make it for September 2004 !!

Good luck with your move :)
Vicki

[Di]

You're welcome Di !

I agree .... his health is the most important thing. Thankfully his heart
surgery was a success, and it sounds like he's going to be just fine :)
I would give anything to be there in Australia to see him in February ... those shows are going to be amazing :))

Atlantic City in September has been our little tradition over the last few years .... September 2001 (the first time I saw him live), September 2002, September 2003 ... and I just hope he doesn't forget that and can make it for September 2004 !!

Good luck with your move :)
Vicki

Well.... we could plan a roadtrip down under..... ;) *Di dashes off to google to check on air fares to Australia* 8)

Thanks again!
:)
Di

[Vickip]

You're welcome Di !

I agree .... his health is the most important thing. Thankfully his heart
surgery was a success, and it sounds like he's going to be just fine :)
I would give anything to be there in Australia to see him in February ... those shows are going to be amazing :))

Atlantic City in September has been our little tradition over the last few years .... September 2001 (the first time I saw him live), September 2002, September 2003 ... and I just hope he doesn't forget that and can make it for September 2004 !!

Good luck with your move :)
Vicki

Well.... we could plan a roadtrip down under..... ;) *Di dashes off to google to check on air fares to Australia* 8)

Thanks again!
:)
Di

Sounds like a great plan to me :)) 8)
You're welcome !!
Vicki

[Simtronic]

Got this from www.meatloaf-oifc.com

[color=red]UPDATE: 11/28/03

MERCURY RECORDS
PRESS CONFERENCE

A press conference held this morning at the Royal Garden Hotel
in Kensington, with media from press, TV and radio present.
Meat Loaf announced that his doctors had given him the "all clear"
to resume his tour in Dublin on Tuesday, thereafter performing
at all the remaining dates through December, health permitting.

The dates which had to be postponed, are being rescheduled.

Two very important messages Meat wanted to get across were...

1. He was told by his promoters that as he had performed
for over one hour at the Wembley show, that he did not need
to reschedule this show. He has decided however that this
is unfair on the fans, as they did not see a full Meat show,
and he is planning to reschedule this show again also.

2. He wanted to thank all the nurses and doctors who had
helped him while he has been in the UK.

***not confirmed with management, as of yet

Hope this helps.

Simon

[CarylB]

Thanks Simon but we had this here on Friday :)
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2724&start=0

it is however great news .. but on that thread you'll find more news and pix too :)

[Shawmtloaf]

The Daily Record (Dec 1st) :cry:

Claims that a "number of international specialists have been working round the clock. Unfortunately they have confirmed that the stress of the collapse means it's unlikely that, despite a lot of support, there'll be any more live performances onstage again. A spokesperson for the stage said it would be a great loss and it would be much laminated."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/columnists/mckenna/page.cfm?objectid=13679447&method=full&siteid=89488

Please, this must be garbage?!?

Take care
Ewan

[Jayd]

Very doubtful, Meat loves performing and would never bow out at this stage, no matter what anyone says to him. :D

[kaz]

i know the newspaper on sat said he was going to cancel sun's show because of anxeity related problems but that meat was determined to continue at the next show- on tues possible?
sorry i wasn't paying that much attention, cuz i dismissed it as rubbish!
i hope its just rubbish, ahhh! stressed again now, please say he isn't quitting! :cry:

[Shawmtloaf]

Actually, id just ignore that silly wee article! They obviously dont have much to write about on a monday morning! Its not from a "serious section" of the paper if you know what i mean!

Ewan :)

[Diane]

The Daily Record (Dec 1st) :cry:

Claims that a "number of international specialists have been working round the clock. Unfortunately they have confirmed that the stress of the collapse means it's unlikely that, despite a lot of support, there'll be any more live performances onstage again. A spokesperson for the stage said it would be a great loss and it would be much laminated."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/columnists/mckenna/page.cfm?objectid=13679447&method=full&siteid=89488

Please, this must be garbage?!?

Take care
Ewan

Sounds like garbage to me too Ewan. This certainly isn't what Meat said at his press conference on Friday morning. He did admit to having anxiety attacks which is completely understandable considering the circumstances.

This article sounds like typical tabloid over-sensationalism.

I think (hope) they meant "lamented" NOT "laminated"! :lol:

Diane

[JenniferSal]

I hate to say this, but i agree with Diane and Ewan that its a 'joke' piece, but actually they seem to be referring, in poor taste, to the state of the STAGE after the collapse, and not the artist. Therefore the jokes about laminating, 'support', etc. Take care!

Jen S.

[CarylB]

Of some use for wrapping a fish supper .. but not worth reading for news ..

And Meat saying at a Press Conference that he's a little anxious (understandably) about resuming the tour as he's been through a lot and has been in bed for over 2 weeks is hardly an "anxiety attack" .. but they can't find what they want to print they make it up .. hey .. why spoil a good story with the truth eh?

[Vickip]

I hate to say this, but i agree with Diane and Ewan that its a 'joke' piece, but actually they seem to be referring, in poor taste, to the state of the STAGE after the collapse, and not the artist. Therefore the jokes about laminating, 'support', etc. Take care!

Jen S.

I agree Jen ... it sounds like somebody's idea of a sick joke :(

Vicki

[ladyloaf69]

i am 35 yeras old and have just gone through the same procedure that meat went through. without the operation i was sure to have died. i also cheated death. the recevery will take a while to get back my strenth just as meat will have to do . as much energy that meat gives on stage it will be a while for that. as i waited in recovery i had my headphones on listening to meats new cd. i figured if there were going to be complications i want to go out happy lol. but so far so good. i hope meat is doing good also. not only is the physical strength weaken but also the mental part of it too. alot of worry . but from reading the articles it looks like meat will be back up very soon. i can't wait to see him in concert again. i hope i get the chance. meat you rock

[MBrevard]

Thank you, Pinky! I'm SO glad to hear that things are going better for you!! And I pray it continues to be so!!!

I wasn't going to get into this topic, but the subject of anxiety attacks, obviously, is one that is near and dear to my heart, since I have suffered from them for most of my life and that's a lotta years now. :roll:

There have been times when they have stopped me and limited my life, and other times, like this past summer, where I was able to travel nearly 2500 miles, following Meat and the band to the various concerts in my area.

So, one can't say that just because a person is having Panic Attacks, that they are NEVER going to do this or that again! It's just plain NOT true! Every case is different. Every person is different. And we are different at different times in our lives, if that makes sense.

Tbe anxiety attacks which Meat says he has been experiencing, Ewan, are quite normal, as others have told you here. He has gone through something incredibly scary these past few weeks. And his confidence is down.

But the more he rehearses (and we all know that when Meat rehearses, he puts his whole heart and soul into them--just as he does his concerts), his confidence will grow stronger and stronger.

And once he finally gets the first song or two under his belt in a real concert, then I believe, from my own experiences in life, that these 'attacks' will go away and NEVER come back for him.

Now I am NOT comparing what I (and several other people at the forum) have, with what Meat has and what Pinky went through. They are very different and we have them for different reasons. I wanted to make that very clear.

But like everyone else, I think that this writer wanted to come up with a sensational story for his paper and this is what came into his head. But by what he writes, he knows nothing, really, on this subject!!

Meat is a very strong-willed and determined man and has been all his life. He even wanted to do the show on Sunday, but it was decided that it was best to give him a little more time. He knows that once "you've been thrown from a horse, you just have to get back on it and try again."

So, throw the paper out! It IS rubbish!! Meat will be back, when he's ready to be back!!! And hopefully, we will all be hearing more official news on that soon!!

Hope this helps.

Love to everyone,
MB
xxx

[Dave]

Of some use for wrapping a fish supper .. but not worth reading for news ..

This is absolutely correct.

[Dave]

I wasn't going to get into this topic, but the subject of anxiety attacks, obviously, is one that is near and dear to my heart, since I have suffered from them for most of my life and that's a lotta years now. :roll:

There have been times when they have stopped me and limited my life, and other times, like this past summer, where I was able to travel nearly 2500 miles, following Meat and the band to the various concerts in my area.

Love to everyone,
MB
xxx

Thank you once again for your wonderous insight. I really do miss our e-mails, but I guess you have lost time for this little bat.

[SueW]

I can't believe that people are even taking this seriously! The whole column is a spoof....like where he says that that if Michael Jackson "disguised himself as a 40 year old black man" it would have been safer.

The clue is in the phrase "A spokesperson for the stage" and not "A spokesperson for the star". That's also why they used the word laminated and not lamented (a pun).

It was reported on another mailing list that the day after Meat's collapse at Wembley that either Letterman or Leno made a similar joke that Meat Loaf would recover but it was doubtful that the stage would. Not funny if you were there but it's what comedians / column writers do.

It's in poor taste but it's the same as when anyone famous dies, it doesn't take long for the jokes to circulate.

Seriously I think that before anything is taken as gospel, I think it's important to consider the source. If Meat Loaf wasn't going back on stage again, the new would hardly first be conveyed in the Steve McKenna column of The Daily Record. Like yesterday here when a rumour went round that the rest of the tour was cancelled and this was from a text from a friend of someone who said they saw it on the Welsh version of Teletext.

Unless the source is reputable, don't take any notice of it and certainly don't start panicking about it until it is confirmed is my advice.

SueW

[Shawmtloaf]

The Daily Record (Dec 1st) :cry:

@A spokesperson for the stage said it would be a great loss and it would be much laminated."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/columnists/mckenna/page.cfm?objectid=13679447&method=full&siteid=89488

OH! I get it now! He is trying to be funny! Sorry, im a bit slow!

Ewan :)

[Bigmomma]

i totally agree MB, when he gets to maybe the second song he will
be fine, or maybe even once he hears the crowd his anxiety will
disappear....
for me it is usually once i get back inside my front door...
but it is thanks to meat that i managed to get outside of it in the first
place.
i agree suew, i doubt that would be where meat would choose to let these
things be known.

[MBrevard]

Thanks for the explanation, Sue! Some of us are not familiar with your papers and what they are like. Didn't read any of the column, but the part dealing with Meat. So, after your comments, I went back and had a good laugh!! :D

Our newspapers here are mostly serious. Can't say that for our tabloids, though!! I don't read anything in them without laughing.... :roll:

Yeah, Kezzina, I know what you mean. There is always great relief walking in the front door!! But the important thing is being outside in order to be able to walk IN!! :wink:

Thanks again, Sue, for bringing a new perspective to this!!

Love,
MB
xxx

[ROSIE]

Be in no doubt Meat, WE WILL ALL ROCK :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Rosie

[Dave]

Our newspapers here are mostly serious. Can't say that for our tabloids, though!! I don't read anything in them without laughing.... :roll:

I do have a new faith in The Enquirer though after the teddy bear pic sent to me by one of my German friends.

ROCK ON TEDDY BEARS!!!