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[Guy]

Roofer at work today fell 25ft through an asbestos roof.
Broken his back and in a bad way.
HSE day tomorrow.
:0 (

[tonyloaf]

That's nasty !

[tonyloaf]

On route to Jakarta

[Guy]

Poor and destitute

[tonyloaf]

Get on the coach in Toronto and AFL is on radio full blast ! Love it!

[chairboys]

Carpenter required to build a trophy cabinet

[Guy]

Carpenter required to build a trophy cabinet
Blow the dust off mine if you like?

[Julie in the rv mirror]

If people are going to post fake reviews on Ticketmaster, they should at least spend five minutes with Google to make sure they get the details right, like the date of the show, or the correct spelling of the performer's name. :roll: At least they make for some entertaining reading- I especially liked the one that said they gave the tickets away, but then proceeded to post a one-star review of the show they didn't see. :lol:

[Sebastian.]

People who say Springsteen should quit politics and stick to music probably have never heard a Springsteen song.

[Monstro]

People who say Springsteen should quit politics and stick to music probably have never heard a Springsteen song.

Begs the question though as to why he booked there in the first place?

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Begs the question though as to why he booked there in the first place?
The law was only passed a couple of weeks ago (long after the tickets went on sale), and, from what I understand, somewhat sneakily.

I agree with the cause, and I'm proud of him for taking a stand (I don't doubt Steve Van Zandt had some significant input), but I feel bad for the fans who are losing out through no fault of their own.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

People who say Springsteen should quit politics and stick to music probably have never heard a Springsteen song.

Look at the comments on almost any article online about Bruce, and you will see people bashing him for his political views who are clearly clueless about his music, and what he stands for. Those are the very kinds of people who get laws like the one in North Carolina passed. I find myself shocked and appalled to find out some of the opinions and attitudes that people hold in this country, at this point in time.

[Monstro]

The law was only passed a couple of weeks ago (long after the tickets went on sale), and, from what I understand, somewhat sneakily.


But as an outsider my understanding was that the idiots that made this law were elected last year and this was part of their mandate?

[Julie in the rv mirror]

But as an outsider my understanding was that the idiots that made this law were elected last year and this was part of their mandate?

Well, that may be true- I confess that I don't know all the details. Still, wanting to pass a particular legislation and actually doing it are two different things.

[tonyloaf]

People who say Springsteen should quit politics and stick to music probably have never heard a Springsteen song.

tho i do feel sorry for the people who have worked hard to save up and buy a ticket for this show

[anotherday]

ONE WEEK FROM TODAY: My Fiance and I see MEAT LOAF!!!!!!!

[Sebastian.]

tho i do feel sorry for the people who have worked hard to save up and buy a ticket for this show

Same mate! But his really serious fans are so understanding and if I lived in NC I think I would understand too.

[Sebastian.]

Look at the comments on almost any article online about Bruce, and you will see people bashing him for his political views who are clearly clueless about his music, and what he stands for. Those are the very kinds of people who get laws like the one in North Carolina passed. I find myself shocked and appalled to find out some of the opinions and attitudes that people hold in this country, at this point in time.

Best comment I saw went like this:

Redneck: Probably cancelled as he sold no tickets!
Real fan: He sold 15,000 tickets
Redneck: Probably too scared of the crowds!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/AL8Kxez.jpg

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Best comment I saw went like this:

Redneck: Probably cancelled as he sold no tickets!
Real fan: He sold 15,000 tickets
Redneck: Probably too scared of the crowds!!!!

Exactly! Too funny! :lol: (How sad am I, though, that I'm looking to see if I know anyone in that picture. :oops: ;) Lol)

Same mate! But his really serious fans are so understanding and if I lived in NC I think I would understand too.
Well, many of them are understanding, but not all. Refunds are being given for the concert tickets, but many people travel to see him, and at this late date are out for flights, hotels, etc. As these people don't live in NC, they don't vote in that state, so don't even have the recourse of voting the bigots out of office. I understand that's the chance you take when you choose to travel to a show, but I also empathize with those who lost out. (I had no plans to go to this show, but something similar could have happened to me.) Some fans don't disagree with the cancellation, but are angry that it didn't happen sooner so that they might be able to change plans and/or recoup some of their travel expenses- I don't blame them. Even for some local fans, this might have been their only opportunity to see a show, or it's too late now for them to make alternate plans. People are upset, and I understand that.

What surprises/scares me are the people who say they are fans, but then put forth narrow-minded, bigoted attitudes. I realize that people are able to separate politics from the music they like, but it's always been present in Bruce's, to some degree, and I know he didn't make this decision lightly.

[Sebastian.]

I understand fans disappointment as I've had cancelled shows on the past. But it's always a risk I know it's less so with Bruce. Maybe that understanding has been drilled into me more being in the RAF as even this week I've been told I may miss Bruce in London (unlikely guys) and will miss other trying due to the force.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

I understand fans disappointment as I've had cancelled shows on the past. But it's always a risk I know it's less so with Bruce.

That's true- it's very rare for him to cancel a show, and I only know of one in recent years that wasn't just postponed and made up. I think that's part of the shock people are feeling- I know I was stunned. But yes, it's always a risk.

When this tour was announced, some of us were talking/joking about the wisdom of touring in Northern states in the dead of Winter; sure enough, one of the NYC shows had to be postponed due to a huge blizzard. Many traveling fans lost out that time as well. The difference is, that was circumstances beyond Bruce's control- this is not.

[duke knooby]

cocodamol plus alcohol equals pain gone but a stupid decision

[chairboys]

IMO Bruce was wrong to cancel. There is a time and place to make your point and it isn't by cancelling a rock gig.
Imagine the headline "Loaf refuses Wembley show in support of threatened toads on canal development."

[AndrewG]

IMO Bruce was wrong to cancel. There is a time and place to make your point and it isn't by cancelling a rock gig.
Imagine the headline "Loaf refuses Wembley show in support of threatened toads on canal development."

The problem with the attitude is now everybody is jumping on the cancellation bandwagon:
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-04-11/i-find-it-incomprehensible-bryan-adams-refuses-to-perform-in-mississippi-over-new-anti-gay-law/

And soon I'm sure it will be seen if you don't do that you are a bad person yourself like many claim the law makers are.

And also it is a movement obviously orchestrated/directed by the media in many ways I reckon. Had there not been Caitlyn Jenner, Matrix sisters would this even have been happening? No one protested when the UK government went ahead with yet more bombing in Syria. How well has that policy worked out for mankind. No one cares because it is no longer topical to think that way it seems. The media doesn't care anymore because it is an on-going issue, so easy to ignore. Meanwhile there probably isn't a single toilet left in one piece in many places in Syria let alone a unisex one.

They interviewed a transgender about what her thoughts were on Sky News and she lives in Brighton (why the LGBT movement needs to center in one town I don't get) and of course she found the law uncomfortable. Sure I get that but would she ever have been travelling to North Carolina in the first place. How about the prejudice laws in Saudi Arabia? Are those fine for this transgender in Brighton. How come Saudi Arabia is allowed to be on the United Nations human rights council? How many artists are protesting against that one? Is it fine because the culture is different and they pump billions of gallons of oil out of the ground? Why is the culture not allowed to be different in North Carolina? These are complex matters I think. Transgenderism is complex too. The law is about people using the bathroom based on the gender on their birth certificate (doesn't sound unreasonable to me for the majority of people in society and you can change your birth certificate also in NC if you change your gender). If this still harms some people then the quickest solution for those excluded to feel comfortable would be to re-label all disabled toilets as a unisex / privacy / disabled toilet surely and force all larger public venues to have these. Or is that a too practical / discriminative solution?

I just think this is all a bit over the top, the issue (which is complex and you can never satisfy everyone) and the reaction to it. There are uncomfortable places and laws all over the world for everyone. I didn't particularly felt comfortable traveling to Dubai. I can't stand religion. I find it offence, stupid and terrible that children get indoctrinated so young without any choice or counter argument. I feel I'm not allowed to discuss this usually because those words seem to hurt people more than any others at times and you can even get arrested (even in Britain) for simply challenging one's believes. It gets seen as harassment. Hmmm. But I have to put up with that in society and just get on with things too.

Bruce used to stand up for the working man. I think a vast majority could identify with that. If you are going to start standing up for minorities and the majority loses out because of that it really becomes more questionable or less admirable to a lot of people in my opinion. This is to be expected.

But good luck to the social justice warriors and also good luck to those trying to go to shows who live in a more religious/different area. Perhaps it would be best for Bruce to only play in democrat areas near the coast lines in the States? I hope everyone gets what they want in the end regardless. Where that is difficult is in areas of opposing views "I want society to stick to my Bible teachings"/"I want society to not stick to Bible teachings at all".

A Bruce show is more than just a rock show and these days one has to spend a lot more than just rock show money to go and see him.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

People are focused on the bathroom part of the bill because that's what's in the headlines, and let's face it- it's a stupid law because there's no way they're ever going to enforce it. Are they going to ask people to produce a birth certificate in order to enter a restroom? But the bill is also about something far more important- it prevents municipalities within the state from passing laws that prohibit discrimination. For example, it takes away the right of a person to sue if they are fired from their job based solely on their sexual orientation.

Andrew, you state that you "can't stand" religion, which is your right; the Mississippi law allows businesses to deny services based on religious grounds. As such, opposition of the law seems in line with your own views (IMO).

As far as other artists or businesses "jumping on the bandwagon", that's the whole point. This is in effect an economic boycott. If someone doesn't put a foot down at some point, it can become a slippery slope. Steve Van Zandt spoke about this a few days ago:

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[Julie in the rv mirror]

Sure I get that but would she ever have been travelling to North Carolina in the first place.
Maybe or maybe not, but does that matter? Can a person not feel one way or another about a law unless it affects them personally?

Why is the culture not allowed to be different in North Carolina?
This isn't about the culture, it's about the law. North Carolina isn't a sovereign nation.

[AndrewG]

Andrew, you state that you "can't stand" religion, which is your right; the Mississippi law allows businesses to deny services based on religious grounds. As such, opposition of the law seems in line with your own views (IMO).


Just because I don't like religion doesn't mean to say I would want to see all
Christian owners of B&Bs in Mississippi be forced to burn their bibles and forced to have transgenders run naked through their toilets as punishment. There was a guy in the 1930s who started a quick movement against a religion over here in Europe and blamed its believers for everything wrong in society. That didn't end so well for everyone.

The truth of the matter is transgenderism, religion, laws about toilets and laws in general and their interpretation are immensely complicated. Whether the NC law was written up with real malicious intent I do not know. I think again media tries to paint a skewed picture of that. One will say it is good and the other will say it is the worst thing in the history of the USA. Promoting nuclear family is not wrong either, in fact evolution shows that it helped mankind tremendously. So there are a lot of things covered in the bill, the reaction to it, the supporters and the protests that won't simply change through the abolition of the bill itself I reckon. I can sympathise with the against camp if one is a member of the LGBT community this law perhaps marginalises him/her in specific ways. I can also sympathise with some of the law support camp who say they wouldn't want a man go into the women's toilets when your 10 year old daughter is in there just because he feels like he a woman that day. I know this is an extreme scenario but I have no idea what toilet rape statistics are etc. I'm just saying there is something there that the bill seems to cover so makes sense to me, also the example of a Christian B&B owner perhaps having to put up with (what they would perceive as) abuse just because the law allows a potential transgender festival to take over the hotel for a while doesn't seem 100% right either. You get my drift I hope...

The media (and some on the left) treat this as like the broadcast of the X Factor auditions. It tries to force us to make a quick judgement whether something is absolutely right or absolutely wrong. So on the X Factor they will show all the atrocious singing auditions and the ones who can sing like angels and leave out around 90-95% of the normal, average, decent stuff.
Society is nothing like the X Factor auditions with binary qualities in my opinion. It's an organic, ever changing thing. Having said that the best thing for the USA would be to not introduce any further laws on top of the constitution and bill of rights at all. Who needs a flipping law for carrying an ice cream cone in your back pocket? I guess this would put a lot of people out of a job and that is sad too... Jeez... Changing a contract mid way through a job isn't fair either. As long as the original laws do not discriminate and are not open to abuse the less there are laws the better probably.

The issues (including transgenderism) are complex. Doing people out of their weekend concert travel plans and any associated costs isn't going to fix it. Sure you may conclude it's better than nothing but I'm convinced I would never buy a ticket again for a Bruce show if it happened to the one I was going to (fingers crossed it doesn't). Sickness is very different than a silent protest for a concert cancellation reason.

If Bruce, Bryan, Stevie etc all want to start boycotting their shows for reasons to get a movement going I personally would rather see them do so for the more extreme areas where LGBT people are treated badly.
The NC law (which I agree with you is completely unenforceable) is like a teddy bear with a nasty smell whereas anti LGBT laws in areas such as Saudi Arabia are like self detonating barbed wired monsters. Any change in these areas would probably be better than small token, principled changes over here in the west.

Anyway these are my opinions and everyone else can disagree. But starting to talk about this and being made out for a racist or a bigot (as I was done immediately on another forum) is absolutely mental... :roll: Again I think people judge too quickly.

Mostly though I think 90-95% of society mean others no harm and that includes transgenders, those who practice a religion, Bruce & the band, their fans and non fans and even those who were involved in probably setting up this law. Just because the latter see things differently or are possibly afraid or do not know etc doesn't mean they deserve a whole tirade of hate / abuse just like Bruce doesn't (the hateful messages on his FB are absolutely insane, one even wished for the rape of Bruce's wife!). NC even losing out on jobs (PayPal) seems a bit wrong to me but we will see if they overturn the bill I guess because of this pressure.


The first thing I reckon that will come out of this is an optional LGBT law related cancellation insurance charge TicketMaster will probably try to add to ticket sales soon....!

[Julie in the rv mirror]

When I first heard about the "Bathroom Law" on television, my immediate thought was WTF???, followed very quickly by, "Good luck to them trying to enforce that one." And then, I'll admit, I didn't give it much thought, because I didn't know the full implications of the bill. As a result of Bruce cancelling this show, I've read more about it in the last few days than I ever would have otherwise, so I guess the boycott accomplished its purpose in that regard. The more I think about it, it makes me angry. There's still a lot of hatred and bigotry in this country, it's just not out in the open. I agree with Steven- I think it's time to shed some light on it, and hopefully by doing so, try to stop it before it spreads.

(Some further reading: http://wunc.org/post/sifting-through-facts-house-bill-2#stream/0)

I can also sympathise with some of the law support camp who say they wouldn't want a man go into the women's toilets when your 10 year old daughter is in there just because he feels like he a woman that day. I know this is an extreme scenario but I have no idea what toilet rape statistics are etc. I'm just saying there is something there that the bill seems to cover so makes sense to me
Right, and there's the rub; they snuck the other civil rights issues in attached to a piece of legislation that makes sense to many people, apparently, a tactic which is not uncommon in legislation. Lawmakers contend it's a matter of "safety", which if you look at it from a logical standpoint is rather ridiculous (not to mention, as a woman, I find somewhat condescending). I have no idea what toilet rape statistics are either, but I'd surmise they are rather low. A sex offender, unfortunately, is going to find ways to commit their crime regardless of what restrictions are placed upon them. Truthfully, I'd be more worried about males who would prey on young boys in the men's room. Just because someone is transgender, that doesn't make them a sex offender.

I would think that most young girls (and likely many adults) would not know a trans woman if they saw one (not to mention ladies' bathrooms have private stalls, so no one is watching the person next to them), but I could see a girl feeling uncomfortable seeing a person in the restroom with the outside appearance of a man. Under the current law, Caitlyn Jenner would not be allowed in the ladies' room, but this person would be:

http://www.advocate.com/sites/advocate.com/files/imce/uploadedimages/BUCK02X400XDEEP_0.jpg

Now, does that make sense? :roll:

As far as changing a birth certificate, that's not as simple as it sounds. In North Carolina, in order to have their birth certificate changed, a transgender person would have to have a doctor certify that they have completed gender reassignment surgery, which not all transgender people do, for various reasons.

I'm convinced I would never buy a ticket again for a Bruce show if it happened to the one I was going to (fingers crossed it doesn't)
Well, that's certainly your prerogative to feel that way- you wouldn't be alone. And, for your sake, I hope it doesn't happen to you. As it happens, I have a ticket to see Bruce in Michigan this Thursday, and I'm not worried he's going to cancel. If he did by some chance, I'd be very disappointed (I wouldn't be out money- to the contrary, I'd have more in my pocket), though I'd get over it.

Just because the latter see things differently or are possibly afraid or do not know etc doesn't mean they deserve a whole tirade of hate / abuse just like Bruce doesn't (the hateful messages on his FB are absolutely insane, one even wished for the rape of Bruce's wife!).
Seriously?! That's disgusting. :mad: That's why I avoid reading a lot of crap that's out there on the net- the fan boards are bad enough!:roll: As I said, lots of hate...

[tonyloaf]

Heading to Brazil !

[AndrewG]

Awesome guitarists I can think of: Hendrix, May, Clapton, Knopfler and then there was Prince. But there is a big difference with Prince. He could also sing well (!) and had one of the largest male vocal ranges of any populair artist ever.
Vocal Range Link (http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges)

[tonyloaf]

Leaving Portugal heading to Dubai for a week of exams

[Skeleton]

Me and my spouse went to see Dance of the Vampires yesterday. It was amazing. Helsingin kaupungin teatteri's (Helsinki city theather) productions was excellent.

I'm still amazed how good the translation was and the intensity the cast and crew delivered. :D

[Sebastian.]

Springsteen sign request planning.

[duke knooby]

Carl seems to be having a good time in London

[tonyloaf]

Hello Australia

[duke knooby]

Was there any April fools mischief on the site this year?

[Monstro]

Was there any April fools mischief on the site this year?

Everyone who visited got a £50 Amazon voucher, looks like you missed out m8

[R.]

Everyone who visited got a £50 Amazon voucher, looks like you missed out m8 That's just cold. :devil:

[Sebastian.]

Today I learned that I'm scarily good with a shotgun

[chairboys]

Yummy. A full plate of sausage, bacon, mush, beans, fried egg and tomato.
Just a shame it wasn't much bigger than a saucer.

[tonyloaf]

Just saw MJ in San Fran

[tonyloaf]

Middle East chicken is really not that good

[Sebastian.]

Middle East chicken is really not that good

Neither is the "pork".

[tonyloaf]

pork? did someone say pork??

[Sebastian.]

pork? did someone say pork??

I hear San Francisco does good pork! :cool:

[chairboys]

You Reds!

[Sebastian.]

Boys will be boys, and girls have those eyes, that'll cut you to ribbons sometimes, and all you can do is wait by the moon, and bleed if it's what she says.

[tonyloaf]

On route to Vietnam ! Time to rock this place

[duke knooby]

I'm not sure which is worse, that White Christmas is on the tv in June, or that I've started watching it.

[anotherday]

I'm not sure which is worse, that White Christmas is on the tv in June, or that I've started watching it. great movie

[Sebastian.]

I'm not sure which is worse, that White Christmas is on the tv in June, or that I've started watching it.

Hey! Bruce gave us Santa Claus in coming to Town in Manchester on ththe 25th May, never too early!

[duke knooby]

25th may must be a good date for good gigs, as i seem to recall being at a good gig in wembley on that date a few years ago :)

though i seem to recall the hotel wasn't to keen on the extra guests

[duke knooby]

can anybody find me a rust free e36 318is coupe in avus blue??

[samurai7]

can anybody find me a rust free e36 318is coupe in avus blue??

I'll take one of those too

[Sebastian.]

25th may must be a good date for good gigs, as i seem to recall being at a good gig in wembley on that date a few years ago :)

though i seem to recall the hotel wasn't to keen on the extra guests
It is! Meat finished LAB on that day in 2013.

[duke knooby]

Sore head is going

[tonyloaf]

Nightwish in Lisbon in sept cant wait!

[Sebastian.]

Post tour blues.

[duke knooby]

a minor miracle has happened, i've actually caved and bought tickets for a gig 6 months in advance

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Post tour blues.

The best cure is another show. ;)

[tonyloaf]

Holiday this month !

[Guy]

If you're happy and you know it clap your hands.

[Sebastian.]

If you're happy and you know it clap your hands.
The RAF has arrived in Canada.

[Guy]

DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL.

[Guy]

DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL.
Forgot toilet roll. :0 (

[chairboys]

DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL.

Enjoy

[Sebastian.]

All I've done at work this week is drink and travel around Canada.

[tonyloaf]

Guy enjoy Nightwish !!!

[melon]

:sherlock:

[duke knooby]

Great to see you back Mel

[chairboys]

Great to see you back Mel

...quite clearly this is the most notable development around here in the last 24 hrs.
Howzat?

[duke knooby]

in my defence, by the time i got home from the pub yesterday i was much to drunk to take in, in any great detail, any other developments

[tonyloaf]

Mega excited for this album !!!

[Wario]

The feeling you get when you know you're about to be reported

https://65.media.tumblr.com/91fdb8afc2f8677107a7526bf8d98e0d/tumblr_inline_n1u6b0L73h1sqgily.gif

[batcity]

it's father day sunday..Must remember to get my dad something... but

[BATOUTOFHEAVEN]

Hello everyone!

Not sure if this is the right thread but I thought I'd say hello, it's been almost five years since I posted quite regularly here. In that time, I've gone from school to university and gone through all the ups and downs of life.

I'd even say my music taste has broadened but Meat Loaf has never come close to being replaced as my favourite singer :)

I'm hoping to start regularly posting here again, I certainly recognise a few names which is unexpected! If I have got the wrong thread I apologise, I'm still getting used to the forum again.

Jake

[melon]

Great to see you back Mel



Thanks Duke, it wasn't exactly a planned absence, I lost the forum runner app for my phone and never got around to reinstalling it, and hardly ever touch my laptop. Plus it was a little quiet around here for a while there :shock:


But, I've lost my job recently so had more time to fire up the old laptop :lol:

[melon]

...quite clearly this is the most notable development around here in the last 24 hrs.
Howzat?

Sadly not any more

[Wario]

8,500 posts
8,500 headaches caused
123 polls
9 years
Still controversial and proud to be.

500 till I make that 9k benchmark

[ThatWriterGuy]

In light of what happened at the concert, I can't believe that people are actually posting stuff like this on Meat's FB page:

"Joanne Sherbank: Very bad concert...time to hang up your microphone..and when you collasped they should have stopped the singing...that you were lip singing..just seen Burton Cummings 2 weeks ago...he still has it and you do not !!"

Actually, I take it back - I CAN believe it, unfortunately.

[duke knooby]

Rick astley tops the albums charts... I wasn't expecting that, especially as I didn't know he had an album out.

[tonyloaf]

Off to LA Tomoz then to England !!!

[Julie in the rv mirror]

In light of what happened at the concert, I can't believe that people are actually posting stuff like this on Meat's FB page:

"Joanne Sherbank: Very bad concert...time to hang up your microphone..and when you collasped they should have stopped the singing...that you were lip singing..just seen Burton Cummings 2 weeks ago...he still has it and you do not !!"

Actually, I take it back - I CAN believe it, unfortunately.
I know- it's sad, isn't it?

Sad, but not shocking, unfortunately. :?

[duke knooby]

sore head, and not from booze

that is shocking

[melon]

sore head, and not from booze

that is shocking

Ditto - but this IS from booze lol

[Monstro]

8,500 posts
8,500 headaches caused
123 polls
9 years
Still controversial and proud to be.

500 till I make that 9k benchmark

We're gonna revoke your posting privileges @ 8,999

[chairboys]

We're gonna revoke your posting privileges @ 8,999

Any chance of changing Wario's "benchmark" 9k to a landmark?

[duke knooby]

not long now till voting day

[chairboys]

not long now till voting day

I know where my cross is going

[AndrewG]

not long now till voting day

Is it just a coincidence that Independence Day 2 is released on that day in the UK too or some kind of message? ;)

[melon]

Job hunting sucks ass

[Sue K]

not long now till voting day

Speaking of which... remember when once a year there'd be some fun nominations of members of the MLUKFC forum and all things Meat Loaf and we'd vote ? I haven't been around much of late and I'm wondering if that's still a feature ? That was fun ... :) ... I think Andy K would get it together ..

[Wario]

Speaking of which... remember when once a year there'd be some fun nominations of members of the MLUKFC forum and all things Meat Loaf and we'd vote ? I haven't been around much of late and I'm wondering if that's still a feature ? That was fun ... :) ... I think Andy K would get it together ..

Nominating myself as sole forum administrator. Like if you agree!

[Evil One]

Arsole forum administrator maybe :twisted:

[Sue K]

Arsole forum administrator maybe :twisted:

You know I love you, Warie ... but this did make me giggle... just a little bit ...:oops: ... hehe

[duke knooby]

michael mcgovern... simply outstanding performance

[duke knooby]

i think a pizza might be a good idea

[chairboys]

For those in doubt tomorrow, it's the bottom box.

[Wario]

i think a pizza might be a good idea

Pizza in UK?

[duke knooby]

Pizza in UK?

welllll, i was really rather drunk

so took the sugar rich dominos option

is a dominos pizza really a proper pizza? discuss lol

[duke knooby]

For those in doubt tomorrow, it's the bottom box.

which ones the bottom box?

is it 2017 eu regs kills off the henry hoover or reduces its power

[Sebastian.]

You know it's bad when evening listening to American Land doesn't cheer you up

[anotherday]

What a strange week it's been for Meat Loaf fans...Strange and wonderful.

[Wario]

What a strange week it's been for Meat Loaf fans...Strange and wonderful.

What a terrible week for Meat, Jim, and their Dreams

[duke knooby]

You know it's bad when evening listening to American Land doesn't cheer you up

ye what?

[anotherday]

What a terrible week for Meat, Jim, and their Dreams I really hope that the streaming didn't do any damage bootleg wise. As far as I know there is no way to download proper from Apple Music to make available for bootlegs or torrents and now that the issue has been corrected, I happily look forward to September. :)

[Wario]

I really hope that the streaming didn't do any damage bootleg wise. As far as I know there is no way to download proper from Apple Music to make available for bootlegs or torrents and now that the issue has been corrected, I happily look forward to September. :)

Bootleg wise it def did

[Julie in the rv mirror]

is a dominos pizza really a proper pizza? discuss lol
Speaking from the deep-dish capital of the world, I'm going to go with an emphatic NO! :lol:

Which would you rather eat-

This?
http://www.isiahfactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/dominos.jpg

Or this? :drool:
http://enjoyfloridamagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/giord.jpg

[anotherday]

Bootleg wise it def did

Hope you're wrong there, Chris.

[Monstro]

As far as I know there is no way to download proper from Apple Music to make available for bootlegs or torrents

It's not difficult

[duke knooby]

NI vs Wales it seems

[Wario]

Hope you're wrong there, Chris.

Same.

[chairboys]

which ones the bottom box?

is it 2017 eu regs kills off the henry hoover or reduces its power

Job done. Back the vac, I say.

[AndrewG]

which ones the bottom box?

is it 2017 eu regs kills off the henry hoover or reduces its power

Only Hoover that bloody works properly. My Hoover vs 50.000 nobodies and their nail salon. I'm going with my Hoover. ;)

[Guy]

For those in doubt tomorrow, it's the bottom box.

Do mine blindfolded. 8*/

[duke knooby]

if we vote "the wrong way" will we be made to vote again?

Or is than only done when treaties are being ratified?

[chairboys]

if we vote "the wrong way" will we be made to vote again?

Or is than only done when treaties are being ratified?

Bookies offering 1/6 for remaining.
Sadly, they don't often get it wrong.

[AndrewG]

Bookies offering 1/6 for remaining.
Sadly, they don't often get it wrong.

They got it so wrong. I won £100. And my Henry (actually a pink Hetty!) stays! A great day.

[chairboys]

They got it so wrong. I won £100. And my Henry (actually a pink Hetty!) stays! A great day.

To all Henrys and Hettys........HOORAY!!!
Enjoy your winnings.

[duke knooby]

:cry:

now the dream is over, it's time to support the remaining home nations

c'mon ROI, WALES and ENGLAND

[duke knooby]

:cry:

now the dream is over, it's time to support the remaining home nations

c'mon ROI, WALES and ENGLAND

and then there was one

[melon]

Ice bath at 10pm in the middle of winter... I'm nuts, or just in that much pain it seems like a completely sane thing to do....

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[nozza]

Ice bath at 10pm in the middle of winter... I'm nuts, or just in that much pain it seems like a completely sane thing to do....

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Hope it helped Mel .

[Wario]

Ice bath at 10pm in the middle of winter... I'm nuts, or just in that much pain it seems like a completely sane thing to do....

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WINTER WAT

ITS SUMMER IN THE EAREB IM ON

[tonyloaf]

Good morning Porto

[Sebastian.]

Missing Canada.

[anotherday]

Missing Canada. is your aim getting better?

[melon]

Hope it helped Mel .

Seems to! The legs don't pull up so well any more!

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[melon]

WINTER WAT

ITS SUMMER IN THE EAREB IM ON

Well that seems to be a different planet to me so that must explain it, you see I'm on Earth, please send me some photos of this eareb you speak of?

Actually, that would explain ALOT about you Wario hahaha

I kid, I kid.... or do I?????

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[AndrewG]

WINTER WAT

ITS SUMMER IN THE EAREB IM ON

Have you ever taken a geography lesson in your life and if you did were you just ignoring the teacher and listening to Meat Loaf with your headphones? Do you believe the eareb is flat or round/oval shape? ;-)

[Wario]

Im not living down this one ...

WAT is dis

[AndrewG]

Im not living down this one ...

WAT is dis

Dis iz someting u no understad?

[melon]

Im not living down this one ...

WAT is dis

No I don't think you are lol

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[Sebastian.]

100 years ago... the British sat in their trenches with a barrage of shells going over towards the Germans, the promise that there will be no resistance as nothing could live through that barrage. The fear going through both sides minds. Crazy. I can't even imagine what that war was like.

[Sebastian.]

To say I'd make your dreams come true would be wrong, but maybe darling I could help them along...

[AndrewG]

100 years ago... the British sat in their trenches with a barrage of shells going over towards the Germans, the promise that there will be no resistance as nothing could live through that barrage. The fear going through both sides minds. Crazy. I can't even imagine what that war was like.

Especially young people should be taught this (recent) history much more and its implications on normal life; young people many of who at the moment think the biggest threat to their lives are individuals who don't agree with them on Twitter. :roll:

[duke knooby]

i can be a complete arsehole when drunk

and what is gravity? how does it work?

those are my thoughts from the weekend

[duke knooby]

top gear... monkey has been brilliant as i expected, rory has been a great surprise, i've come to enjoy matt le blanc, no idea why eddie jordan is on it, sabine would be great as a recurring occasional guest, but i haven't yet warmed to mr evans in this format. and i'd return to the star in a reasonably priced car.

[AndrewG]

top gear... monkey has been brilliant as i expected, rory has been a great surprise, i've come to enjoy matt le blanc, no idea why eddie jordan is on it, sabine would be great as a recurring occasional guest, but i haven't yet warmed to mr evans in this format. and i'd return to the star in a reasonably priced car.

Looks like you won't have to warm to that guy any more. ;)

[duke knooby]

should've eaten more, and drunk less

[tonyloaf]

germany tomoz, i guess very depressed people

[Sebastian.]

germany tomoz, i guess very depressed people

Shame I couldn't make it! See ya Monday.

GO PORTUGAL!

[Sebastian.]

Is it a gun? Is it a knife? Is it a wallet? This is your life, it ain't no secret... No secret my friend, you can get killed just for living in... you American Skin.

[AndrewG]

Is it a gun? Is it a knife? Is it a wallet? This is your life, it ain't no secret... No secret my friend, you can get killed just for living in... your American Skin. ... or in your police uniform :(

[Sebastian.]

But on a brighter note seeing my greatest friends next week!

[duke knooby]

i'd love it if you said that " i want my friend back"

[AndrewG]

This got me really excited to see the Olympic torch relay back in 2012. :-) Such a great piece of animation and music. :D

dc59QAKR20I

[Sebastian.]

i'd love it if you said that " i want my friend back"

May be saying that soon. :(

[duke knooby]

Where's all me money gone???

I don't remember spending THAT much last night!!!

[duke knooby]

i'm really looking forward to hearing braver than we are

[melon]

i'm really looking forward to hearing braver than we are

Me too

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[duke knooby]

Farrrrr tttttooooooooo wwwwwaaaaarrrrmmmmmm

[duke knooby]

i really shouldn't be liking posts, commenting on something i haven't heard, so i suppose i'm only liking the thoughts of those people lol

[tonyloaf]

Melon and tonyloaf again in oz

[duke knooby]

that's a rather tasty e36 for sale, almost perfect

ooohhhhhh soooo tempted

[Sebastian.]

I won a 3 month holiday to Cyprus today.

[GenoJLaw]

I won a 3 month holiday to Cyprus today.
Congratulations

[duke knooby]

i really need to drink less and sleep more

still sore ribs from friday night :(

but a wasted youth is better by far :)

[melon]

Gotta catch em all

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[Guy]

Short head of a horse and I lose out on £240
8 *(

[tonyloaf]

Short head of a horse and I lose out on £240 8 *(

Not good my guy??

[melon]

Short head of a horse and I lose out on £240
8 *(



That's why it's called gambling Mr Tumbles

[chairboys]

Short head of a horse and I lose out on £240
8 *(

keep investing

[Sebastian.]

Getting on the Op Massive in Cyprus.

I wanna go to McGettigans :(

[duke knooby]

i'm wrecked

[duke knooby]

i've just remembered when i was wee you could get fake cigarette sweeties lol

and bengal matches!!!

[AndrewG]

Another Springsteen compilation album! FFS. :-(

[tonyloaf]

Manchester Tomoz

[melon]

I hate waiting lol, completely out of my hands, I now have no control over the outcome. Hate that feeling.

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[Julie in the rv mirror]

Another Springsteen compilation album! FFS. :-(

Yeah, but it's got some nice unreleased tracks on it (Yes, I know we've had the bootleg versions for some time...).

[Guy]

The things you see at a motoway service station. 8*/

[Guy]

6 second buuuuuuurrrrrrp

[chairboys]

The things you see at a motoway service station. 8*/

It'll be footie fans on Saturday.
Looking forward to our renewal of hostilities!

[anotherday]

Happy Belated Birthday to my wonderful boyfriend. May your rock n roll dreams come true all year long.

[Guy]

It'll be footie fans on Saturday.
Looking forward to our renewal of hostilities!
I may venture down to Crawley/Wycombe
; 0)

[Sebastian.]

Gym time.
#opmassive.

[chairboys]

I may venture down to Crawley/Wycombe
; 0)

You'll be in for a treat if last season's repeat curtain raiser is anything to go by.

[chairboys]

Gym time.
#opmassive.

Good luck in rebuilding

[chairboys]

You'll be in for a treat if last season's repeat curtain raiser is anything to go by.

Doh, it was quite the opener!

[chairboys]

Fundamentals of posting
I) get your facts correct
ii) if correcting facts ensure corrected facts are correct.
iii) accept you may often appear foolish

[Sebastian.]

Can't feel my arms. #opmassive

[Adje]

In the Netherlands, after 3 years at the same boss you either get a contract or get layed off.

In short. I'm unemployed again :evil:

[AndrewG]

In the Netherlands, after 3 years at the same boss you either get a contract or get layed off.

In short. I'm unemployed again :evil:

Job security in The Netherlands used to be excellent. I get the impression this is no longer the case?
Good luck.

[Adje]

Job security in The Netherlands used to be excellent. I get the impression this is no longer the case?
Good luck.

So many new rules. Making it hard for small businesses to hand out contracts. It will make them virtually bankrupt if the employee screws up and needs to get layed off.
They tried to give more security for the working people but what they did was scare off buisinesses. In the end nobody benefits from it.

At least I have a very decent income for a few years if I don't manage to find a job. That is still decently secured ;-) (so I will first watch the Olympics before trying to start at a new job :lol: )

[duke knooby]

It would appear I have the ability to screw up the weather, yesterday the forecast said today would be good, so I took the day off. And still waiting for the good weather to appear.

[duke knooby]

Meanwhile, whilst waiting for this wonderful weather, I have taken apart and rebuilt the gears on me bike, having paid a bike shop to fix them two weeks ago.

Moral of the story, if you want something done right... Etc

[duke knooby]

i'm an idiot, i saw cd signing, and thought too much traveling

didn't think fan club meet up

[duke knooby]

Jaffa cakes for breakfast :)

[Sebastian.]

I'm running out of protein shake :(

[duke knooby]

another evening of sublime self destruction :(

[melon]

I'm running out of protein shake :(

Buy more

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[Sebastian.]

I can't feel my arms, arms looking bigger though..

[tonyloaf]

Day 1 of A380 training done .

[duke knooby]

It turns out pride does indeed come before a fall. So now that I've had my bat out hell sudden curve moment, it's now a what part of my body hurts the most moment

[duke knooby]

With hindsight I'd be better sticking to 4 wheels, but it was inevitable that understeer would be my downfall

[Sebastian.]

Nobody knew that Manchester is where Santa lives in the off season, now we know.

[Guy]

Canterbury tonight for Brian Adams concert with the wife!
And Joe!!

[duke knooby]

to go with a bryan adams theme... so far so good

haven't managed to injure myself or been injured this weekend :)

[melon]

to go with a bryan adams theme... so far so good

haven't managed to injure myself or been injured this weekend :)

Non-injury is good

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[duke knooby]

what a performance team GB!!!

[duke knooby]

that's a rather tidy looking e36 for sale near Byley...

tempting!!

but not a fan of flying

[duke knooby]

happy 40th neil, i'll raise a glass and toast you

[GenoJLaw]

Had Philly Cheese Steak, Onion Ring, Ice Cream cone and deep fried Snickers today. Fair food is the best.

[melon]

happy 40th neil, i'll raise a glass and toast you

Ditto

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[duke knooby]

Where's RJ's cardboard head?

[duke knooby]

as a non sporty person, that always preferred the winter olympics to the main show, the main show is much more watchable when your team is doing well lol

[duke knooby]

Very tired, very drunk

Good night!

[duke knooby]

Looks like the air lander 10 has been rather optimistically named, crashlander 10 may have been more appropriate.

[duke knooby]

bitten by a caterpillar and stung by a wasp

why's nature got it in for me today lol

[Sebastian.]

bitten by a caterpillar and stung by a wasp

why's nature got it in for me today lol
Not quite what Muhammed Ali was on about.

[chairboys]

Bus stopped. Front doors opened. Jumped off, bearing right and thud.
I whacked my head on the wing mirror.
Surely I'm not the first person to have done this?

[Guy]

Having planet rock on the radio all day is good for my current working conditions

[Monstro]

Bus stopped. Front doors opened. Jumped off, bearing right and thud.
I whacked my head on the wing mirror.
Surely I'm not the first person to have done this?

Probably not......

First to admit it publicly......probably

[tonyloaf]

New DELAIN album very good

[Sebastian.]

Brize Norton departures... making Riyadh airport look amazing!

[chairboys]

Probably not......

First to admit it publicly......probably

This place is private, no?

[Guy]

The problem with working in dirty, smelly houses is that you do seem to scratch more when you get home.

[tonyloaf]

Been told last minute I'm going to New York

[Cherry.Loaf]

So my daughter Luna (13 weeks) loves Meat Loaf and Springsteen, glad to know she has good taste in music already

[chairboys]

Cranium crunching seems to be a current habit. This time a low branch.

[duke knooby]

looks like i've a flight to manchester to make

[duke knooby]

tired, worn out, almost broken... but not defeated (yet)

[tonyloaf]

Getting ready to head to Lisbon to see nightwish play

[duke knooby]

Getting ready to head to Lisbon to see nightwish play

I was getting ready to go to Lisburn today, it's not quite as exotic though.

Enjoy the gig!

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Magic number is 10! :cheer:




(Since most people probably have no clue what I'm talking about: http://www.cubsmagicnumber.com/)

[tonyloaf]

I was getting ready to go to Lisburn today, it's not quite as exotic though.

Enjoy the gig!

lol thanks man!

[duke knooby]

that's a rather tidy looking e36 for sale near Byley...

tempting!!

but not a fan of flying

the temptation was too great

but I gotta say, i don't normally do crazy, blind car purchases

40ish miles to the liverpool boat, or 240ish miles to cairnryan

decisions decisions

[Adje]

So when was the last time your jetlag lasted a week :roll:

[lorenzoduke]

For the first time in a life that has included being abused, losing my family, being cheated on, being homeless, and living in 4 different countries, true happiness is in reach and I'm worried it's gonna evaporate or I'm gonna ~~~~ it up.

[tonyloaf]

So when was the last time your jetlag lasted a week :roll:

I'm currently in my 4th week of bad jet lag

[Sebastian.]

So when was the last time your jetlag lasted a week :roll:

Tokyo 2011 I was ~~~~ed for 3 weeks.


On another note my no drinking for 3 months is on the rocks... just like my drink.

[AndrewG]

So when was the last time your jetlag lasted a week :roll:

Tend to agree. :|

Travel fatigue can occur without crossing time zones, and it often disappears after a single day accompanied by a night of good quality sleep

[tonyloaf]

unless you have had multiple trips plus long working times

[AndrewG]

unless you have had multiple trips plus long working times

Then it wouldn't be just jetlag. ;)

[tonyloaf]

Then it wouldn't be just jetlag. ;)

All adds to it

[Sebastian.]

Then it wouldn't be just jetlag. ;)

The fact you're willing to argue it is pretty pathetic.

[Guy]

Really??
Jeez....

[duke knooby]

I've just been sent a pic by a mate, of his mates personally signed btwa cd, it's ok for me to be jealous, isn't it???

[duke knooby]

and worse than that, been sent a car tax reminder a month earlier than i was expecting

[AndrewG]

The fact you're willing to argue it is pretty pathetic.

My concern about Meat's health wasn't meant maliciously, not sure how you think that is pathetic, and as Meat confirmed this morning he has a pinched nerve in his back and not sure about touring so there is more going on than just jetlag. Just think shrugging how he looked on Monday off so easily and trying to drag him back to the stage can also be interpreted as being insensitive.

Wasn't trying to argue with anyone, just think "jetlag" isn't accurate. This is Post your thoughts. One can't really disagree with a thought?

You know what I thought was pathetic, was the comment here. Just couldn't help but not respond.
Would young people such as yourself even have been able to have been a fan if Meat had stopped at Bat 2?! Let alone little tiny differences in how we see things...

http://media.mlxxfc.net/pahetic-comment.jpg

[duke knooby]

is Meat's cane the one he had in the all coming back to me now vid?

[stretch37]

Meat doesn't have jet lag. Just look at him. he's in pain, he's clearly ill...Seeing him on stage this year my mouth was hanging open. Something has happened and is different about meat. That's a fact.

[AndrewG]

Meat doesn't have jet lag. Just look at him. he's in pain, he's clearly ill...Seeing him on stage this year my mouth was hanging open. Something has happened and is different about meat. That's a fact.

Whatever it is I hope he recovers. Thinking there is something wrong isn't being mean, I think in this case it's being realistic. Not trying to tear down his character. It's like being concerned about a family member I think. We all want the best for him in the end.

Glad the signing in London went so well. Hope Meat really enjoyed himself.
Hope after the 16th he is done with the promo and can enjoy his birthday without any commitments on his agenda for a bit. He certainly deserves that.

[stretch37]

Whatever it is I hope he recovers. Thinking there is something wrong isn't being mean, I think in this case it's being realistic. Not trying to tear down his character. It's like being concerned about a family member I think. We all want the best for him in the end.


My thoughts exactly. It's coming from a place of love and concern for someone you care about. And I am glad he's doing the signing and talking to everyone about his record, It's great to see him out and about. I'm not judging him at all. I just care for him too much NOT to worry.

[firefly]

Off out shopping to get the new album, can't wait xx

[Guy]

OMG.
I'm gonna divorce the wife and marry Speaking in Tongues.
Love it.

[anotherday]

Can't. Stop. Listening. To. BTWA.

[AndrewG]

OMG.
I'm gonna divorce the wife and marry Speaking in Tongues.
Love it.

Don't know where my girlfriend is sleeping tonight because I'm sleeping with Going all the way.. But I'd accept a threesome. I'd better tell her I guess...
:twisted:

[duke knooby]

time to go cd buying

[duke knooby]

mid way through very first playback... i'm gonna have to put it back to back against bat 2 :)