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[duke knooby]

mid way through very first playback... i'm gonna have to put it back to back against bat 2 :)

that was a bad idea as i'm now listening to afl for the third time in a row

[duke knooby]

possibly it just wont quit is my new favourite song

[Battybarb]

That has always been one of my favourites
Just love it

[duke knooby]

The hairy bikers were a great choice to host today's show with meat :)

[stretch37]

Twitter's all worried about Meat after seeing him on the Saturday Breakfast show this morning (just ended I think).

So many people saying he looks like he's had a stroke, or he's in a bad way, or he looks very frail or sick, or something's just not right.....Apparently Jimmy wasn't over-exaggerating...Feeling worried...

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=meat%20loaf%20saturday%20kitchen&src=typd

Here's a picture from the show...I can see what they mean :'(
https://i.imgsafe.org/3e59c4f9c3.jpg

[anotherday]

Twitter's all worried about Meat after seeing him on the Saturday Breakfast show this morning (just ended I think).

So many people saying he looks like he's had a stroke, or he's in a bad way, or he looks very frail or sick, or something's just not right.....Apparently Jimmy wasn't over-exaggerating...Feeling worried...

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=meat%20loaf%20saturday%20kitchen&src=typd

Here's a picture from the show...I can see what they mean :'(
https://i.imgsafe.org/3e59c4f9c3.jpg
Oh. My. God.
Meat is FINE.
He has explained up and down he has a pinched nerve in his back. THEYARE SUPER PAINFUL THINGS TO EXPERIENCE.

[stretch37]

theres actually more to it than that.

Oh. My. God.
Meat is FINE.
He has explained up and down he has a pinched nerve in his back. THEYARE SUPER PAINFUL THINGS TO EXPERIENCE.

[anotherday]

And you know this how?

[nikox1]

And you know this how?

Well Meat explained things, so we can go only by this. But!!!
What is your gut instincts telling you?
I think we all feel theres more, but again we can only go by what Meats telling us, there has been enough drama spread in the media.

[AndrewG]

Stupid ~~~~~~~s at the last night of the proms waving their EU flags. Nutters.

[duke knooby]

And so it begins (all over again)

[chairboys]

Blues v reds is taking on title decider status!!!!

[chairboys]

Saw the Piano Man at Wembley stadium last night.
Top notch.

[AndrewG]

Meat & Jim have created some amazing music over the last 39 years. Wow. What a pleasure to have witnessed, what an inspiration and what a privilege to have been alive during this time. It's like being alive during the same time as WA Mozart.

[duke knooby]

my problems would be solved much quicker if i had managed to con someone else into dealing with them

and i did try very very hard

[AndrewG]

Going All The Way Is Just The Start is soooooo phenomenally good. I'll never be able to fully comprehend it I think. Love everything about it that was intentional and everything about it that probably just happened organically in the studio when it was recorded. God damn I love this song!

[melon]

Springsteen in Perth in January. Will have to swindle some tickets

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[anotherday]

This BUILD AOL thing is AMAZING. MEAT is on FIRE!

[AndrewG]

This BUILD AOL thing is AMAZING. MEAT is on FIRE!

Shame they didn't take internet questions. ;)

I asked again about the suitcase on the cover. :sherlock:

[AndrewG]

Listening to GATW AGAIN....

People rating the album one star?
Hahahahaha! They cannot see the love and the beauty in this masterpiece and the rest of the great stuff on the album!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
They have my sympathy, but not for long because I want to listen to this song again and again and again and again till I die....

[duke knooby]

i shouldn't need a passport for this flight, which is good as i've no idea where it is

[duke knooby]

took a few listens, but i'm really starting to get into the new album...

no idea why i've started playing it from track 3 though

though i'm still missing the bombast to the music

[duke knooby]

there's nobody produces steinman songs like steinman

bat 2, masterpiece

[stretch37]

Listening to GATW AGAIN....

People rating the album one star?
Hahahahaha! They cannot see the love and the beauty in this masterpiece and the rest of the great stuff on the album!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
They have my sympathy, but not for long because I want to listen to this song again and again and again and again till I die....

That song and Souvenirs have each made me cry a few times now.

There is no other studio album that makes me cry. Honestly, it's hard to get me to cry when I'm going about day to day life.

So yeah...There's something going on here.

Anyone who gave it a 1 star review entirely missed that.

On this record, Meat's voice is used as a one-of-a-kind instrument to evoke a serious level of emotion. The instrument doesn't follow many of the conventional singing rules or techniques. It's something different. Perhaps it is futuristic - perhaps they're onto something...

[duke knooby]

it's bat 3 all over again for me, so much potential, sky high expectations... and it's almost there, almost what i wanted it to be

[AndrewG]

Bad experience with Townsend Music. Doubt I'd ever buy anything through them again. Very poor. Wrong vinyl sent & no T shirt within one order? No indication there was no T Shirt. Just random refund on my PayPal account which I had to enquire about to see what the f happened. Then I get told my order is complete yet still waiting on a CD.
Shouldn't have bought anything through them.

I don't recommend them at all.

[duke knooby]

Why's my iTunes braver showing as a 2009 release

[CarylB]

A signed vinyl on eBay from last week's event .. signed "To AJ" .. wonder why he didn't just ask Meat to write "To eBay buyer" :roll:

[anotherday]

A signed vinyl on eBay from last week's event .. signed "To AJ" .. wonder why he didn't just ask Meat to write "To eBay buyer" :roll:

Right? Wow. Sad :(

[Adje]

Right? Wow. Sad :(

Actually he is selling a CD, not the vinyl. So far I've seen 7 signed CD booklets on eBay from the signing session. Much less than I anticipated. Perhaps because many have their name written on the booklet.

From the seven (including AJ's) 4 have been sold within a day for 30,- to 40,- Pounds and two had been up to 5 days before being sold. Unless I missed one, the AJ version was the only one with the person's name. He would have done better if he asked for the signature only. Funny enough, with 40,- Pounds he is one of the expensive ones :lol:

And I don't think it's sad. London is big and not everybody is a Meat Loaf fan. But admission was free so why not order a ticket and get in line?

But outside London are a lot of Meat Loaf fans who would love a signed edition. So the people selling their signed edition saw a celebrity, are making an extra buck and help fans who would not have been able to get an autographed edition (and personally I think 30-40 pounds is not even an unfair price).

I wanted a signed edition so I ordered the Amazon vinyl. I don't even have a record player :twisted: If that hadn't been an option I would have been happy with an eBay booklet from that signing for this price ;)

[Evil One]

A signed vinyl on eBay from last week's event .. signed "To AJ" .. wonder why he didn't just ask Meat to write "To eBay buyer" :roll:Would this be the same AJ that used to post here, claimed to be a cancer sufferer, pulled some kind of scam and now posts all over Meat's Facebook as if nothing ever happened? :roll:

[AndrewG]

Would this be the same AJ that used to post here, claimed to be a cancer sufferer, pulled some kind of scam and now posts all over Meat's Facebook as if nothing ever happened? :roll:

I blocked him years ago on FB. Didn't know he was still trolling away. Yeah there are a few of those around.... :roll:

[CarylB]

Would this be the same AJ that used to post here, claimed to be a cancer sufferer, pulled some kind of scam and now posts all over Meat's Facebook as if nothing ever happened? :roll:

I think he is in N America, so not sure he'd have come to the signing. As to the posting as if nothing had happened .. I suppose it could be someone else of same name .. otherwise, yep :roll:

(The one posting about and on Meat's page was from Minnesota, now Fla, and looks extremely healthy)

[tonyloaf]

so on Nightwish new album , the last song is 24 mins long!! Jim needs to also work with them :)

[duke knooby]

sarkozy has had an epiphany, facts vs an agenda

and he has sided with the evidence

that's got to be politically damaging

facts and evidence don't win anything these days, spin and marketing are king

i have no idea who the quote is from, but it's a great thought/quote

we should teach the children how to think, not what to think

[duke knooby]

in the late 90's meat loaf 20/20 interview, there's a brief clip of meat and jimmy doing objects, which i assume is the performance on the live around the world album. Was the whole show filmed? are there any more clips available?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olJmYrd_IFA

[duke knooby]

well it's not far off a decade ago to the month, that i went from delight at hearing the first song, the monsters loose, and to declaring bat 3 not a proper bat album.

people change, time moves on, you get to appreciate what you've been given in time

i grew to love bat 3 as a meat loaf album

and i'm glad we've got braver

[melon]

Forum Runner gripe:

I can't seem to start a new thread or just post a reply in a thread anymore. I have to actually quote someone and then delete the quote just to be able to post.

I couldn't reply to or send new PMs either until I reinstalled the app, but that didn't fix my posting issue...

Anyone else with a similar problem?

[anotherday]

Forum Runner gripe:

I can't seem to start a new thread or just post a reply in a thread anymore. I have to actually quote someone and then delete the quote just to be able to post.

I couldn't reply to or send new PMs either until I reinstalled the app, but that didn't fix my posting issue...

Anyone else with a similar problem?

yes.
It just force quits on me whenever I try to post.

[melon]

yes.
It just force quits on me whenever I try to post.

What phone do you have? I think it's an android issue

[duke knooby]

it's official, the worst person at organising any travel plans is me!

boarding pass printed, and thats it... dunno how i'm getting to the destination from the airport, and dunno how i'm getting home again

[duke knooby]

that intro to loving you's a real grower, stuck in my head anyway

is it a variation on faster the speed of night?

[duke knooby]

Hello Manchester, nice to be here

[samurai7]

Why's my iTunes braver showing as a 2009 release

This was the issue when Apple Music leaked it. Looks like they haven't remedied it

[duke knooby]

i'm wrecked, that was quite an adventure today.

top tip... don't buy a car without first viewing it.

[Guy]

Yeah. Angelina......call me. 😀

[Monstro]

Yeah. Angelina......call me. 😀


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[Sebastian.]

Yeah. Angelina......call me. 😀

Sorry mate, she's with me... need to pass on a message?

[Guy]

Yeah. Mary Berry.....call me.

[Guy]

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Should of guessed.

[duke knooby]

i'm surprised the government is making it difficult to take my money to tax this shed of a car

[melon]

I think one of the people I work with has a split personality, and issues with control ha ha...

[duke knooby]

E36 oversteers on wet roundabouts much easier than I remembered

[melon]

Jimmy Barnes book signing? Yes.

[Adje]

Jimmy Barnes book signing? Yes.

About 17 years ago I went to a book signing by Stephen King. I was super hyped and super excited! So excited that, after the signing, I forgot to take my book and came home without it. I was devestated (still am when I think back of it) :oops: :(

Never had the chance again, never got my book back.

[melon]

About 17 years ago I went to a book signing by Stephen King. I was super hyped and super excited! So excited that, after the signing, I forgot to take my book and came home without it. I was devestated (still am when I think back of it) :oops: :(

Never had the chance again, never got my book back.

Oops!

[chairboys]

Oh, Big Sam!!

[duke knooby]

i'm quite enjoying listening to some of mark steyns ramblings :)

[melon]

1 more hour and I'm off for beers with the boss... hopefully it's a quick hour lol

[duke knooby]

how hard can it be to get a weather forecast accurate for only 4 hours?????

[Guy]

Mr Chair boys.
Tommy Wright eh??

[duke knooby]

white wine, irish coffee then lots of beer,

good choices, bad order

[chairboys]

Mr Chair boys.
Tommy Wright eh??

Since when have brown envelopes been illegal?
I really can't see what he's done wrong!

[tonyloaf]

number of the beast!!!

[ThatWriterGuy]

About 17 years ago I went to a book signing by Stephen King. I was super hyped and super excited! So excited that, after the signing, I forgot to take my book and came home without it. I was devestated (still am when I think back of it) :oops: :(

Never had the chance again, never got my book back.

Funnily enough I'm reading a first print CUJO at the minute.

[AndrewG]

Through all the sometimes passionate and probably inappropriate outbursts Meat has had online etc I have to conclude he is a very clever guy I can look up to and learn from. He was 100% right on his comments on the USA presidential election.

In contrast I find Bono and Springsteen's ridiculous comments recently immature to the point I'm not buying Bruce's latest compilation album and biography pure out of principle. These two have really gone down in my estimation.

They can have their political preferences and opinions all they want but attacking candidates in an immature way when they are that involved in politics and have such a huge following really isn't tactful or smart.

And I reckon it will backfire tremendously if they don't drop it.

[Adje]

I have to conclude he is a very clever guy I can look up to and learn from. He was 100% right on his comments on the USA presidential election.

I have no idea what Meat has said. But I think Joe Biden (even if he is biased) said something that hits the nail for me. He said something in the line of "I've had to deal with 8 presidents both Democrat and Republican. Some I agreed with and others disagreed. But all of them had a moral center about what it means to be an American and what the Basic civil rights are."

And although morality is a questionable thing amongst politicians I do agree. Trump, no matter if you like the guy, has none. The only moral center of Trump is based on Trumps personal needs.

[AndrewG]

Here we get the disliking thoughts brigade again. :roll:

[AndrewG]

I have no idea what Meat has said. But I think Joe Biden (even if he is biased) said something that hits the nail for me. He said something in the line of "I've had to deal with 8 presidents both Democrat and Republican. Some I agreed with and others disagreed. But all of them had a moral center about what it means to be an American and what the Basic civil rights are."

Meat just said the correct candidate will win and we should respect the decision plus that he just won't publicly endorse anyone since it is so polarising. Also that Trump simply cannot be dismissed as an idiot which was exactly almost the entire extent of Bono and Bruce's arguments. These are weak arguments, in fact no arguments. If someone came on the forum here and just said Meat is an idiot without any reason they could be banned and rightfully too.

And although morality is a questionable thing amongst politicians I do agree. Trump, no matter if you like the guy, has none. The only moral center of Trump is based on Trumps personal needs.
A year ago I thought he was a complete fruitcake. But having looked into the guy a lot more since then I disagree with what you posted. In fact his desires to improve the USA for its citizens via running as president date back to the 80s when he was applauded for that stance. In my opinion a "leader" such as Mark Rutte is much much worse.

[Adje]

Here we get the disliking thoughts brigade again. :roll:

Maybe see it more as a 'disagree' button instead of a 'dislike' one ;)

Hell maybe we should ask R. to change the name of the button :cool:

BTW I also don't know what Bono or Springsteen said. But Bruce has always been a vocal Democrat. So there would be no surprise if he is vocal during the coming elections. And the immaturity (again, I haven't heared anything he said) does fit the Republican candidate who hasn't stayed clear from stating his own immature opinions. And that's the Presidential candidate FCOL :|

BTW, I've always been more of a democratic guy than a Republican guy, but Trump is neither. The more words come out of his mouth, the least respect I have for him as a human being. His narcistic personality actually frightens me, when it comes to the Presidential elections.

[Adje]

A year ago I thought he was a complete fruitcake. But having looked into the guy a lot more since then I disagree with what you posted. In fact his desires to improve the USA for its citizens via running as president date back to the 80s when he was applauded for that stance. In my opinion a "leader" such as Mark Rutte is much much worse.

I never thought of Trump to be a fruitcake. I think he's very clever. But that doesn't mean I think he is suit for a job as President.

As for the Netherlands. I'm not a VVD guy and Rutte is not my pick. But neither is Wilders. And luckily Wilders act is starting to show cracks. Even to some of his followers. And with Dutch elections on their way I must say that comforts me.

As with Trump. He also is an act. But he is a good act and many people fail to see through it. That's a quality, for sure. And the World will not explode if he becomes the President. But I pitty the fool who has to clean up his mess in 4 years from now.

[AndrewG]

I never thought of Trump to be a fruitcake. I think he's very clever. But that doesn't mean I think he is suit for a job as President.

As for the Netherlands. I'm not a VVD guy and Rutte is not my pick. But neither is Wilders. And luckily Wilders act is starting to show cracks. Even to some of his followers. And with Dutch elections on their way I must say that comforts me.

As with Trump. He also is an act. But he is a good act and many people fail to see through it. That's a quality, for sure. And the World will not explode if he becomes the President. But I pitty the fool who has to clean up his mess in 4 years from now.

It is a very fair comment and interesting debating this with you for sure. But hence I am much more respecting of what Meat said since he recognises Trump's intelligence as well.

I never expected Bruce to change his mind on his party alliance. However his huge endorsement of Obama and subsequently Obama's insult towards us Brits "you will be at the back of the queue for deals with the USA if you vote to leave the EU" in April (after his USA apology tour around the world) certainly made me far more sceptical of another Democratic president. It actually made me look into the EU far more and eventually I voted leave! ;)

Whether Trump can deliver any of the stuff he says is of course something for the future to judge and I would definitely be critical if things became a mess and if that mess because of USA's influence in the west trickles into the UK. At this time I personally think more far left thinking (Labour party here in the UK moving to total socialism) is possibly not what we need to improve our and other people's lives. I used to be a paying member of the Labour party here and I also voted for them at the last election but they seem to be heading into obscurity like the PVDA are in the Netherlands. Whether you agree with them then doesn't really matter since if we don't have a large party opposition in our government simply is a bad thing.

Hillary Clinton's taunting of Russia worries me more than what Donald Trump has said about foreign countries and his policies etc. I'm not saying Putin is a saint but some of the rhetoric recently seems to be exactly what many are accusing Trump of. (If you have your hands on the nuclear football you cannot be so erratic etc)

Why Wilders doesn't open up his party to membership and invite more people / ideas in definitely won't help him and I guess it shows he is perhaps too narcissistic to become a Dutch Prime minister. We will see next year. Would a Trump win influence the Dutch? Perhaps not since most as quite far left leaning from what I know. Also weren't a whole bunch of the PVV politicians caught out to be involved in corruption when they first were part of the government coalition? I can't remember exactly but my dad said something along the lines of that is what you get with these guys at the time. I thought it was an interesting comment.

These are polarising times when it comes to politics for sure. And I also wonder if the EU will still exist in its current form (without the UK) in 10 years time.

End of random political thoughts...

Also an interesting new political TV show "Designated Survivor" with Kiefer Sutherland seems really interesting so far. :-) (Netflix)

[anotherday]

Trump is a bigot, racist, and xenophobe. End of story. He needs to go away.

Anyone who thinks he is a good person, fit to be president, 'smart', etc is JUST DANG WRONG.

[CarylB]

Trump is a bigot, racist, and xenophobe. End of story. He needs to go away.

I agree with all this. Pence, the aspiring US vice-president has said he has seen people pack arenas and fairgrounds by the thousands or stand in a driving rainstorm to hear Trump's "message of a brighter future".~ We've seen this before, and hoped we'd never see it again.

Erratic, trafficking in prejudice and xenophobia, reckless, mendacious, coarse, shouting slogans and outcomes without any explanations of how he’d achieve them, petulant and bullying when challenged, and as a business man (which he claims makes him fit to run the USA in the absence of any experience of public office) he has shown himself to be untrustworthy, devious, again petulant, and prepared to throw small investors under the bus to hang on to his own money.

Adje said
As with Trump. He also is an act. But he is a good act and many people fail to see through it. That's a quality, for sure. And the World will not explode if he becomes the President. But I pity the fool who has to clean up his mess in 4 years from now.

I agree .. just hope the world would not rather literally explode were he to take up residence in the Oval Office .. it would certainly do so metaphorically for many living there.

Adje also said "he's very clever". I see it more as the smart cunning of a hustler.
and
The only moral center of Trump is based on Trumps personal needs.

Yes. A large group of GOP National security leaders expressed their concerns .. last March? I can only concur with their words ..
"Mr. Trump’s own statements lead us to conclude that as president, he would use the authority of his office to act in ways that make America less safe, and which would diminish our standing in the world. Furthermore, his expansive view of how presidential power should be wielded against his detractors poses a distinct threat to civil liberty in the United States."

[AndrewG]

So it sounds like you both thoroughly disagree with Meat then and that he is DANG WRONG? ;-)

I completely agree with Meat. Whoever the Americans pick will be the right president for the next 4 years. :-) And I'd respect the outcome whether it is Clinton or Trump.

Whether either of them can make it another 4 years after that considering their ages remains to be seen I think.

[Adje]

So it sounds like you both thoroughly disagree with Meat then and that he is DANG WRONG? ;-)

I know it was not meant for me but actually I think Meat is wrong. Although Trump is intelligent he also is an idiot.

And I think Meat forgot the upset when Bush beat, sorta beat Al Gore. Something with popular vote...

The person who gets elected President is not necersary the 'correct' person to be President. ;)

But what did the Donald state about a former Miss Universe? After he called her Miss Piggy (for gaining some weight) he now dismisses her on Twitter as a bad person for having a sextape. She probably doesn't have a sextape but did a nude photoshoot for Playboy. Well Mrs Trump apparently did some nudes too, but that's fine with me. My point is, calling someone Miss Piggy as an insult and claiming 'a person is bad for having a sextape' (which seems not true) is something only an idiot would say. Especially to use it in his own benefit during a presidential campaign.

And that's the problem with Trump. Something like this pops up every so many days. How can you even respect a person who should represent a Nation but putting away women (and other groups of people) like this?

Trump is an idiot.

[duke knooby]

did al gore manage to become the worlds first carbon billionaire?

He certainly made a fortune from pedalling the scare stories.

[CarylB]

So it sounds like you both thoroughly disagree with Meat then and that he is DANG WRONG? ;-)

I think he has consciously avoided getting involved in passing comment on the issue in interviews, which is commendable. I can't remember the exact phrasing of his reply each time .. but it's on the lines of ' .. there's a process, and that will take place and the right candidate will be elected' .. which could equally to be taken to mean "right" in terms of elected by a democratic majority, so in terms of a democratic process obviously whoever the Americans pick would be the 'right president' for the next 4 years .. unless there's a chad scandal again ;)

Whether Trump winning would be a GOOD thing is another issue .. and Meat knows I don't believe it would be good, and if he thought it would that I'm in the DANG opposite camp ;)

[Julie in the rv mirror]

BTW I also don't know what Bono or Springsteen said. But Bruce has always been a vocal Democrat. So there would be no surprise if he is vocal during the coming elections. And the immaturity (again, I haven't heared anything he said) does fit the Republican candidate who hasn't stayed clear from stating his own immature opinions. And that's the Presidential candidate FCOL :|
I'm not sure what Andrew was referring to as "immature"- there was a Tweet going around that was attributed to Bruce, but it actually came from a satire account (which I think is hilarious, but that's beside the point).

As far as I know, there are a couple of things that Bruce has said publicly- he did call Trump a "moron", which I am shocked at, because Bruce just doesn't do that. I can only assume that he must feel very strongly about it for that to happen. Here's the article: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bruce-springsteen-calls-donald-trump-a-moron-w441761

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say he's a moron- one doesn't achieve what Trump has without some intelligence (though I agree with Caryl that it's more like "cunning"). Though Penn Jillette, whom I do consider to be very intelligent, has also stated that he doesn't think Trump is that smart. (He also said he was told that he wouldn't win Celebrity Apprentice unless he said he would support Trump in a presidential bid, and you see how that turned out.)

Here's also a link to what Bruce said on a Swedish talk show, and it's almost as if he put my own thoughts into words better than I could myself: http://youtu.be/z-cpbxz7jlc (I find his comments to be thoughtful and not immature at all.) *See below for the full interview.

As an American, I do find it embarrassing that this is what some consider to be the "best" person for the job. I think we would be a laughing stock before the rest of the world if he becomes president, and rightly so. I never thought he'd actually get the nomination- I thought his own party had more sense than that.

Trump does what is good for Trump- make no mistake. He is excellent at telling people what they want to hear, and I'm stunned that so many don't see through it. He will latch onto any "cause" if he thinks it can get him attention and/or votes. For the first time in my life, I am genuinely worried about the possibility of a certain candidate getting into office.

Edit: The above clip of the Swedish TV interview is edited- the full thing is here- the discussion about Trump starts at 17:10:
http://youtu.be/1XZWmpWbinY (As an aside, I think this is the best interview I have ever seen Bruce do- the whole thing is very worth watching.)

[AndrewG]

I know it was not meant for me but actually I think Meat is wrong. Although Trump is intelligent he also is an idiot.

And I think Meat forgot the upset when Bush beat, sorta beat Al Gore. Something with popular vote...

The person who gets elected President is not necersary the 'correct' person to be President. ;)

But what did the Donald state about a former Miss Universe? After he called her Miss Piggy (for gaining some weight) he now dismisses her on Twitter as a bad person for having a sextape. She probably doesn't have a sextape but did a nude photoshoot for Playboy. Well Mrs Trump apparently did some nudes too, but that's fine with me. My point is, calling someone Miss Piggy as an insult and claiming 'a person is bad for having a sextape' (which seems not true) is something only an idiot would say. Especially to use it in his own benefit during a presidential campaign.

And that's the problem with Trump. Something like this pops up every so many days. How can you even respect a person who should represent a Nation but putting away women (and other groups of people) like this?

Trump is an idiot.

Adje you might find this video interesting on the fat shaming thing.


https://youtu.be/rwVxJFF6afA


You might not believe anything that that guy is saying but Donald Trump definitely came to the defence of miss piggy at some point as you can see. :cool:


Also what always surprises me is that people accuse Trump for saying a lot bad of things quite often but then.... say bad things about him. Two wrongs don't make a right even if I understand the reason for it.


Finally I honestly think the media is hugely exaggerating issues concerning Donald Trump. The same media who only reports on Meat Loaf when he has collapsed on stage or was in poor voice to sell newspapers or get you via click bait. they have tried to tear down Meats character many times and I see the same happen with Trump right now.

The question of whether he is fit to run is definitely up for debate but I seriously think people should try to investigate what is going on here for themselves before jumping on the hate bandwagon so easily.

Thank you for your time once again. ;)

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Also what always surprises me is that people accuse Trump for saying a lot bad of things quite often but then.... say bad things about him. Two wrongs don't make a right even if I understand the reason for it.
Here's why there's a problem:

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[CarylB]

The question of whether he is fit to run is definitely up for debate but I seriously think people should try to investigate what is going on here for themselves before jumping on the hate bandwagon so easily.

As you're posting here I have to wonder if you include us in the people you refer to. I always DO investigate, never accept a click bait headline, but search for evidence that he has made this or that outlandish statement .. the bizarre Tweets, video footage of him making the statement .. and find more than enough to support my view of this man, including watching the recent debate live. I've yet to find a cogent and tenable policy expressed to achieve the outcomes he promises, I have seen and heard him ridicule those who have challenged him, encourage bullying at his rallies, make outlandish threats, and flatly deny he has said things I have heard him say a matter of weeks or even days before. I'm not facile, nor jumping on any "hate bandwagon" .. I have followed his campaign, researching as I go, with ever-increasing concern.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

I'm convinced there's only one logical explanation for his candidacy: :mrgreen:

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[CarylB]

I watched that in spring and thought it hilarious and on the money ;) .. now, 6 months later, "Springtime for Donald and the USA" holds a significant level of frisson of dread behind the laughter ... :(

[AndrewG]

Here's why there's a problem:

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I actually thought that was quite a decent argument. ;)

The government being the best of its people would be a great thing to achieve. I doubt however that has been achieved in the past (George W. Bush's terrible lies to convince people to invade Iraq for example).

And the only thing I'd say in response to Penn is that society should be careful with letting political correctness stand in the way of discussing important issues.
A much more focused and decent argument on immigration than Donald Trump, Nigel Farage or myself could ever give for anyone who is interested in watching:
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As you're posting here I have to wonder if you include us in the people you refer to. I always DO investigate, never accept a click bait headline, but search for evidence that he has made this or that outlandish statement .. the bizarre Tweets, video footage of him making the statement .. and find more than enough to support my view of this man, including watching the recent debate live. I've yet to find a cogent and tenable policy expressed to achieve the outcomes he promises, I have seen and heard him ridicule those who have challenged him, encourage bullying at his rallies, make outlandish threats, and flatly deny he has said things I have heard him say a matter of weeks or even days before. I'm not facile, nor jumping on any "hate bandwagon" .. I have followed his campaign, researching as I go, with ever-increasing concern.

I've read all the responses and thank everyone for their time in debating. I disagree with AnotherDay for saying about the matter "End of Story" and glad it wasn't end of story. No one's opinion is the final solution, in my opinion it is THAT what is bigotry.

If you have made up your mind and investigated of course that is fine. I never said the sun shines out of Trump's ass. :D
I just think what is going on is similar to the ganging up mentality that two people had to endure:

Meat Loaf with the Australian Press. Because he gave a bad performance in 2011 now anything he does in their eyes is crap and they still try to refer back to his performance as if he committed a crime.
The Twitter ganging up on Justine Sacco which ruined her life.

There is an interesting Ted talk about the Justine Sacco case if you are interested in watching:
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Now of course Donald Trump has put himself into the limelight and probably knew what he was going in for but I still think the outrage at what he is saying seems to be worse than the things he has said himself. People digging up dirt on his family etc. I'm not saying anyone here has done that, I am merely pointing out the ganging up is very easy to be part of and not notice it. I am sure I have been part of such things in the past myself.
There's just Both Sides to a story quite often. ;-)

The Alicia Machado case is one of the best recent examples where people accuse Trump of fat shaming but you will find she has done the same and actually worse much more punishable things.

This doesn't mean I think people should gang up on Alicia Machado or Hillary Clinton, I just think the ganging up on Trump is exaggerated when there are more important matters to think off.

I was shocked when I saw this footage of a guy wearing an "MAGA" hat in a Black Lives Matter rally. It comes across that parts of the Black Lives Matters club is far more dangerous than anything they are protesting about. :roll:
Sure you can say he should have known that wearing a MAGA hat in THAT crowd was stupid but did he really deserve what he got for it?? I don't think so. :-(
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The ganging up of people can often lead to worse things (I admit Trump is perhaps causing the same on the other side). But so far the actual physical violence doesn't seem to be coming from his supporters I believe (there were a few assholes at rallies I admit, but not entire crowds such as in the MAGA hat case where someone could have died!). This does not mean that in the future this cannot turn or have negative effects on minorities. I just think people need to think for themselves more rather than just believe what they read in print/online. ;-)
In that light it is Meat Loaf's dignified response that really stood out to me rather than the name calling which almost all celebrities are doing. Look at UK TV shows where they have celebrities. Just yesterday I caught a bit of Graham Norton (hardly ever watch it to be honest) and the American celebrities again seemed the Trump thing is a joke, a turn off, something they rather not think about. So Hillary wins by default for them. Hardly any negatives are mentioned about her on the UK to the point there isn't even any debate about which policies she stands for. I think this is a huge disadvantage to her actually. I really am not so sure about if she is so easily deserving of the presidency without any debate. But again I would respect the outcome if she does win it. However the amnesia card definitely seems to be played by Barack Obama (why a sitting president can so easily devote so much time to hand over the reigns I don't understand??). Listen to some of the stuff he was saying about Hillary Clinton:
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I'm convinced there's only one logical explanation for his candidacy: :mrgreen:

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Another great video and very funny. I love The Producers film (the original).

The only thing that always worries me is that it appears to be politically correct to call white people racists so easily. I'm not so sure they could make that same joke about another race of people. :? White people are btw not the majority around the world. ;-)

Finally let's end on a funny thing:

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[AndrewG]

I watched that in spring and thought it hilarious and on the money ;) .. now, 6 months later, "Springtime for Donald and the USA" holds a significant level of frisson of dread behind the laughter ... :(

I still think that IF you think you have the moral high ground and want to be politically correct making that comparison is also quite immoral.

I've visited the dreadful remains of some of the outcome of Adolf's policies and actions in Poland. I'm not so sure Trump's policies / business deals etc hold the same destructive impact AT ALL on this planet currently and would appear in the future regardless of what happens over the next 4-8 years.

But this is my personal opinion. ;-)

(Interesting to note Adolf's last name is banned from this site. This I think is a good thing so we can't call each other that. I've never seen Trump ever call someone else that. I think it is sad other people think it is fine to call him that. Again I think it is a massive exaggeration)

[CarylB]

I still think that IF you think you have the moral high ground and want to be politically correct making that comparison is also quite immoral.

I've visited the dreadful remains of some of the outcome of Adolf's policies and actions in Poland. I'm not so sure Trump's policies / business deals etc hold the same destructive impact AT ALL on this planet currently and would appear in the future regardless of what happens over the next 4-8 years.

But this is my personal opinion. ;-)


And this mine :) I don't say I have the moral high ground, but I do believe mine is somewhat higher than Trump's. My comparison flowed directly from the video you found great and funny.

Trump's appealing to the fearful and the worried by targeting key identifiable groups as the root of so many ills is very concerning to me, just as a key plank in the Brexit rhetoric did. I too have seen the remains of the terrible outcomes in 40s Germany, and whilst genocide on such a scale is not something absent in the world, I hope and trust we will not see it again in our countries/societies. What IS to me worrying is how much bigotry does still reside in people's minds/hearts, and how when used as a platform in a campaign it serves somehow to legitimise that bigotry for some. We have seen an increase here in the UK post-Brexit, I have seen friends here made to experience fear for the first time in decades, even in their lives, because of their ancestry. There is evidence that Trump's campaign is having a similar effect in the USA. I am reminded again of Pastor Niemoller's words .. and that all that is required for evil to flourish is for others to stand by and say nothing. There is a kernel of evil in many people's hearts still .. and to play on and to that with grandiose populist statements in the pursuit of power is at best irresponsible, at worst wickedly indifferent to the likely result. That puts the level of moral ground on which Trump stands way below mine, and that of many others.

[Adje]

Adje you might find this video interesting on the fat shaming thing.


https://youtu.be/rwVxJFF6afA


You might not believe anything that that guy is saying but Donald Trump definitely came to the defence of miss piggy at some point as you can see. :cool:

I believe he came up for her AFTER calling her a miss Piggy. Which seems the regular case with Trump. He says a lot. Look at his campaign, his twitter etc. and when he is asked about it it's either misunderstood, wrongly quoted or untrue. "I didn't say that" is almost a new catchphrase for the guy


Also what always surprises me is that people accuse Trump for saying a lot bad of things quite often but then.... say bad things about him. Two wrongs don't make a right even if I understand the reason for it.
I agree. It is not classy. But I see it this way. Those people are stupid enough to lower themselves at his level but at least they are not up for the high office. It's almost like calling my school principal a fat ~~~~~~~. You don't expect the principal to stoop down my level and call me that as well. With Trump... well he rises above no one.


Finally I honestly think the media is hugely exaggerating issues concerning Donald Trump. The same media who only reports on Meat Loaf when he has collapsed on stage or was in poor voice to sell newspapers or get you via click bait. they have tried to tear down Meats character many times and I see the same happen with Trump right now.

The question of whether he is fit to run is definitely up for debate but I seriously think people should try to investigate what is going on here for themselves before jumping on the hate bandwagon so easily.

Sure the media blows things up. Then again I based my dislike for this person pure on his own words and retribution. The media can point out what they want but even then it's not like they scripted him. He does that on his own. And yes, after Trump had a babydaughter about 18 years ago and saying on tv that he hopes she gets her mom's big tits. Not classy but a mistake from the past. (although it shows where his mind is). And I let that slip. So I base myself mainly on what he says since running (Calling the Miss a bad person is from this campaign because Hillary brought the Fat pig comment up.

Andrew, I honest to God do not get what you appreciate in this guy. As I said, the more he speaks the less I respect him as a human being. Simply listen to some of his rallys. Listen how he responds on what the crowd is chanting. Listen to what he suggested. How he plays with his words.

“If she gets to pick her judges ― nothing you can do, folks. Although, the Second Amendment people. Maybe there is. I don’t know.”
How is this for a future leader. Suggesting THIS is not even funny if it was said sarcastically. And Andrew, since he has been running lots of misplaced, may I call them sick, comments have been made by this man.

I remember a rally with Mitt Romney 4 years ago where someone was calling Obama a Muslim or whatever and Romney corrected that person. That shows some leadership.

Again, I feel this strongly against him because he is trying to get one of the biggest positions in the World. He should lead by example. I don't care if he says those things as a businessman. As a citizen. Although many of it is still repulsive. But atleast then it is not said by someone who is suposed to lead an entire country.

And why Trump makes those same mistakes, over and over again during his campaign is very obvious. It is who he is.

And I appreciate people sticking up for him. Trying to defend him by blaming anyone but him. But even for them there is no begin and no ending to where to start defending. Because, and I say it again, Trump is an idiot.

[CarylB]

Agree with all of that Adje .. in particular this

... the more he speaks the less I respect him as a human being. Simply listen ... how he plays with his words.

“If she gets to pick her judges ― nothing you can do, folks. Although, the Second Amendment people. Maybe there is. I don’t know.”
How is this for a future leader. Suggesting THIS is not even funny if it was said sarcastically. And Andrew, since he has been running lots of misplaced, may I call them sick, comments have been made by this man.

I remember a rally with Mitt Romney 4 years ago where someone was calling Obama a Muslim or whatever and Romney corrected that person. That shows some leadership.

Again, I feel this strongly against him because he is trying to get one of the biggest positions in the World. He should lead by example. I don't care if he says those things as a businessman. As a citizen. Although to many of it is still repulsive. But at least then it is not said by someone who is supposed to lead an entire country.

And why Trump makes those same mistakes, over and over again during his campaign is very obvious. It is who he is.

[AndrewG]

I believe he came up for her AFTER calling her a miss Piggy. Which seems the regular case with Trump. He says a lot. Look at his campaign, his twitter etc. and when he is asked about it it's either misunderstood, wrongly quoted or untrue. "I didn't say that" is almost a new catchphrase for the guy

I still don't see any evidence of what you simply assume. Moreover WHY Clinton brought this person up in a presidential debate is frankly incredible considering this person's past. BTW just before the debate the Wiki page had been amended to remove all the bad stuff about her. Clinton played a "Trumpcard" and that was very evident I think. This certainly doesn't look good her on her account yet somehow the media don't mind this. Bizarre.


I agree. It is not classy. But I see it this way. Those people are stupid enough to lower themselves at his level but at least they are not up for the high office. It's almost like calling my school principal a fat ~~~~~~~. You don't expect the principal to stoop down my level and call me that as well. With Trump... well he rises above no one.

It is a fair enough comment.


Sure the media blows things up. Then again I based my dislike for this person pure on his own words and retribution. The media can point out what they want but even then it's not like they scripted him. He does that on his own. And yes, after Trump had a babydaughter about 18 years ago and saying on tv that he hopes she gets her mom's big tits. Not classy but a mistake from the past. (although it shows where his mind is). And I let that slip. So I base myself mainly on what he says since running (Calling the Miss a bad person is from this campaign because Hillary brought the Fat pig comment up.

He has made money from objectiving women sure but those women have made money too. His family seem quite well turned out to me. And the odd goofball thing he's said: Meh I don't mind this so much.


Andrew, I honest to God do not get what you appreciate in this guy. As I said, the more he speaks the less I respect him as a human being. Simply listen to some of his rallys. Listen how he responds on what the crowd is chanting. Listen to what he suggested. How he plays with his words.

Between his scatty brain comments (I suffer from this too) I don't believe he is a racist. I see a lot of character assassination by the media, especially since he decided to run. You mentioned Mitt Romney. Trump was the best guy in the world to him back in 2012. Now all of a sudden the worst. Hmmm. When Meat Loaf has been on the receiving end of character assassination in the press plenty came to his defence here. I just don't like when people gang up on one guy and they certainly seem to be doing that through distortions and out of context quotes.


How is this for a future leader. Suggesting THIS is not even funny if it was said sarcastically. And Andrew, since he has been running lots of misplaced, may I call them sick, comments have been made by this man.

I think it is out of context and not necessarily a cry to arms but a cry to voting.


I remember a rally with Mitt Romney 4 years ago where someone was calling Obama a Muslim or whatever and Romney corrected that person. That shows some leadership.

It's a good thing but Romney hated gays unlike Trump does. He was one of the first to open a gay friendly club in Florida I believe.


Again, I feel this strongly against him because he is trying to get one of the biggest positions in the World. He should lead by example. I don't care if he says those things as a businessman. As a citizen. Although many of it is still repulsive. But atleast then it is not said by someone who is suposed to lead an entire country.

And why Trump makes those same mistakes, over and over again during his campaign is very obvious. It is who he is.

And I appreciate people sticking up for him. Trying to defend him by blaming anyone but him. But even for them there is no begin and no ending to where to start defending. Because, and I say it again, Trump is an idiot.

Fair enough.

[Adje]

I still don't see any evidence of what you simply assume. Moreover WHY Clinton brought this person up in a presidential debate is frankly incredible considering this person's past. BTW just before the debate the Wiki page had been amended to remove all the bad stuff about her. Clinton played a "Trumpcard" and that was very evident I think. This certainly doesn't look good her on her account yet somehow the media don't mind this. Bizarre.
Fair enough although you don't call it a 'Trumpcard' for nothing ;)


He has made money from objectiving women sure but those women have made money too. His family seem quite well turned out to me. And the odd goofball thing he's said: Meh I don't mind this so much.


Between his scatty brain comments (I suffer from this too) I don't believe he is a racist. I see a lot of character assassination by the media, especially since he decided to run. You mentioned Mitt Romney. Trump was the best guy in the world to him back in 2012. Now all of a sudden the worst. Hmmm. When Meat Loaf has been on the receiving end of character assassination in the press plenty came to his defence here. I just don't like when people gang up on one guy and they certainly seem to be doing that through distortions and out of context quotes.
That is perhaps an issue on itself. The fact that you don't mind his 'goofball things' from the position he is in (or represents)
As for Romney, I think he has a lot of wrong ideas about a lot of issues. But at least he had the decency to stand up against his rallying crowd when they screamed something untrue. Trump is the kind of person that encourage it. Remeber that protester during his rally for the Republican nomination? “You know what I hate? There’s a guy totally disruptive, throwing punches, we’re not allowed to punch back anymore. I love the old days. You know what they used to do with guys like that when they were in a place like this? They’d be carried out on a stretcher, folks." I’d like to punch him in the face, I tell you that,” Seriously who says this to a rallying crowd? This isn't some cheap Hollywood movie. But I wouldn't vote for either one. I come back on the 'out of context' quotes.


I think it is out of context and not necessarily a cry to arms but a cry to voting.
As I said, I'd come back to it :lol:
Andrew, you call it out of context. But you understand what people can read into the comment? Because that is the issue. Trump is well aware of what he said and he said it to start controversity. This is why he is in the media so often. This has been his tactics from the beginning. Now saying the media blows it up, puts it out of context and overexposures is EXACTLY what Trump was aiming for. So you can call the media upon it but it does not change the fact that he used these words for a reason. And dismissing it -making it small- by saying it's out of context is just not doing it. You believe he didn't mean weapons but voting, another may believe exactly the oposit. I also don't believe Trump asked his voters to shoot Hillary. But it's not unlikely some did (even as a joke). I find something like this unacceptabel. And again, this is not the only thing this man said during his run. And it won't be the last questionable thing he says until November (I bet you a Frikandel Speciaal on it) ;)


It's a good thing but Romney hated gays unlike Trump does. He was one of the first to open a gay friendly club in Florida I believe.

As I stated before, not a Mitt fan but wanted to make a point about leadership and the, imo, lack of it during campaign time.

My final thoughts: You say Trump is no racist. This might be true but he has said or done nothing the last year that makes me believe he is not. What he has been doing is a lot of damage control. Because everytime he says or does something , the day after he needs an excuse.

And don't get me wrong, Clinton is no saint. Not even close. But we have two candidates here to chose from. Both with a history and both with flaws. In the end it's clear for me that Trump is the most narcisitc of the two. And that is the last person I want as a President.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

And the only thing I'd say in response to Penn is that society should be careful with letting political correctness stand in the way of discussing important issues.
I don't think that's what Penn was getting at, especially since he seems to be rather politically incorrect himself. And I agree with you that society as whole has become too politically correct. However, there is a huge difference between not being afraid to offend people and being downright dangerous- I believe Trump is the latter.

Now of course Donald Trump has put himself into the limelight and probably knew what he was going in for but I still think the outrage at what he is saying seems to be worse than the things he has said himself. People digging up dirt on his family etc. I'm not saying anyone here has done that, I am merely pointing out the ganging up is very easy to be part of and not notice it. I am sure I have been part of such things in the past myself.
There's just Both Sides to a story quite often. ;-)
Standard procedure in any political campaign, unfortunately. Hilary has been criticized and put under a microscope as well. Recently, she was sick with pneumonia, and people were questioning whether she were physically fit enough to hold office. Now, when has that ever happened before? FDR was in a wheelchair, for goodness sake. She can't be called out for making outrageous or offensive public comments because she simply doesn't make them. The mudslinging has been particularly vicious this time, but not unusual in itself.

I was shocked when I saw this footage of a guy wearing an "MAGA" hat in a Black Lives Matter rally. It comes across that parts of the Black Lives Matters club is far more dangerous than anything they are protesting about. :roll:
Sure you can say he should have known that wearing a MAGA hat in THAT crowd was stupid but did he really deserve what he got for it?? I don't think so. :-(
Well, if I may quote Mr. Springsteen, "Trust none of what you hear, and less of what you see."

The Black Lives Matter movement hits very close to home for me for many reasons, which I mostly won't get into here. While it seems like a just cause, I do believe there is a great potential for ugliness involved, and I think there is a sinister element that can exploit it and other causes for their own means. The media exacerbates the whole situation as well.

Adje touched on this in his post, and it's my feeling as well, that Trump has the dangerous capacity to appeal to the fringe element of society. If I may be politically incorrect, I think some of those he appeals to are frankly not the most intelligent members of society, and/or mentally unstable- those who can be easily swayed. I think Trump is a rabble-rouser. You may consider his comment about the Second Amendment to refer to voting- other people might not. Using Black Lives Matter as an example, look at the innocent police officers who have been murdered in "retaliation" for shootings by the police. The fact that the individuals doing the killing were mentally unstable doesn't make the situation any less tragic.

Trump also makes a lot of promises, but has no plans to back them up. One particular example- he stated he could end the gun violence that happens in Chicago in a week- laughable enough to make him look like a total fool.

Hardly any negatives are mentioned about her on the UK to the point there isn't even any debate about which policies she stands for.

As I said above, there is plenty negative said about her in the U.S. media.

However the amnesia card definitely seems to be played by Barack Obama (why a sitting president can so easily devote so much time to hand over the reigns I don't understand??). Listen to some of the stuff he was saying about Hillary Clinton:
He was running against her at the time that commercial was made. Both that and him supporting her now is again, standard politics. Don't forget, there was much talk about Hilary being Obama's running mate (before he chose Biden), and she served under him as Secretary of State, so they are not exactly enemies. Of course he's going to endorse her now.

As to why Hilary brought up the "Miss Piggy" incident in the debate, it was a strategy to rattle Trump, and it worked.

[melon]

I have a pen..... I have a pineapple...........

Pen pineapple apple pen......

Goddamnit

[tonyloaf]

this is all very big serious talk on here :)

guy's round???

[Guy]

this is all very big serious talk on here :)
I am not round. Just 'plump' Anyway you just worry about topping up your tan in Abu Dhabi. Looooool

guy's round???

[CarylB]

this is all very big serious talk on here :)

guy's round???


Last time I saw him he was quite slim still .. he's become spherical? :shock:

[ThatWriterGuy]

he said it to start controversity.

Is that where you studied, Adje?

I just went to the regular one, myself.

[Adje]

Is that where you studied, Adje?

I just went to the regular one, myself.

I went to none myself, because... you know,

when you're important they come to you.

[melon]

So tired... day 12 of a 12 day straight block of work... leaving it until the absolute last moment to get ready lol. Bed is comfy

[melon]

So tired... day 12 of a 12 day straight block of work... leaving it until the absolute last moment to get ready lol. Bed is comfy

And then 1 hour into said shift, manager calls me and asks me to do a second shift at a different store later in the day.

13 shifts in 12 days, 14 shifts if you count the time I worked at my home store for free the other day because one of the 2 person team didn't show up, so I dropped in to help a mate out after I finished at the store I was at...

Bring on a sleep in tomorrow!

[melon]

When you don't have to be up, but your damn body clock wakes you up anyway... mum making pancakes makes it a bit better

[duke knooby]

the late, great, christopher hitchens would appear to have really disliked the clintons. i may not always have agreed with hitchens opinions, but he was a great thought provoker.

i wonder what he'd have made off trump as a candidate

[duke knooby]

Obviously meat likes a narrative to pitch an album to the media, but to base each character as a 19 year old, as Jim was 19 when he wrote the first song is almost as ludicrous as to make Harry Potter what ever age jk Rowling was when she wrote those stories

[melon]

My jacket smells nice, whatever it was washed in is awesome.

It feels nice to spend money on geeky shiz I want rather than sensible things I need.

3am wake ups suck monkey balls.

It's raining right now.

I want the 10th doctors sonic screw driver.

[Sebastian.]

Herc guys can drink...

[melon]

First game of cricket for the season today... and I have to fill in for our keeper...

Yeeeaaahhhh I'm not going to be able to walk tomorrow...

[chairboys]

First game of cricket for the season today... and I have to fill in for our keeper...

Yeeeaaahhhh I'm not going to be able to walk tomorrow...

Stiff?

[melon]

Stiff?

A little, but less than expected thankfully

[duke knooby]

i can't drink as much booze as i used too (as frequently)... is it a blessing, or is it a curse lol

[melon]

i can't drink as much booze as i used too (as frequently)... is it a blessing, or is it a curse lol

Tough one....

I've just discovered whiskey with ginger ale and lime... actually quite nice

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Cubs win!!! Cubs win!!! :cheer::cheer::cheer:

https://media.tenor.co/images/539edfe4e86410102b5e8106b1098052/raw

[duke knooby]

Tough one....

I've just discovered whiskey with ginger ale and lime... actually quite nice

i've never tried that, i thought you put the lime in the coconut lol

10 years since bat 3

10 years!!!!!!! :shock:

[duke knooby]

it's been many many years since i've had 2 plastic fivers at the same time

[melon]

i've never tried that, i thought you put the lime in the coconut lol

10 years since bat 3

10 years!!!!!!! :shock:

Put the lime in the coconut, put the lime in the coconut....

[chairboys]

it's been many many years since i've had 2 plastic fivers at the same time

Are they the new indestructible notes?
Mrs Chairboys had one back in the change today at lunch. It was sellotaped down the middle!
She soon recirculated it with a wine purchase.

[letsgotoofar]

Obviously meat likes a narrative to pitch an album to the media, but to base each character as a 19 year old, as Jim was 19 when he wrote the first song is almost as ludicrous as to make Harry Potter what ever age jk Rowling was when she wrote those stories

Oh my God, thank you!

[duke knooby]

Oh my God, thank you!

you're very welcome

[duke knooby]

last thing i need is a new record player, as my spare one still hasn't been opened 15 years on... but the potential new one is cheap, and it's a usb one...

so has anybody any opinions on a lenco l84??

any good?

[duke knooby]

finally the clocks go back to normal...
hell is over (i'm not a morning person)
it's my time of year again :)

[melon]

The geeky shop makes me buy things...

[duke knooby]

I can find every tax book, except for the car I want to tax. Where the ~~~~ have I put it???

[duke knooby]

Great news :)

[duke knooby]

Is who needs the young as divisive a song as do it? Had do it opened couldn't have said it better, would it have changed people's perceptions of that album?

[Sebastian.]

Less than 2 weeks to go on this Island... and a little over 3 weeks until I'm back where I belong... gazebo'd off chapagne im business class on a 747.

[Guy]

Grown men fighting at 5 a side footie.
Comical.

[melon]

Chicken oven becomes water feature...... nice.

[tonyloaf]

rocking in the desert

[duke knooby]

self destruction by sleep deprivation is a slow process

[duke knooby]

are creative people more likely to be arrogant?

[Adje]

are creative people more likely to be arrogant?

If they are succesful, yes

[Julie in the rv mirror]

If they are succesful, yes

And then there are a few successful creative people who aren't the least bit arrogant at all. :-)

[AndrewG]

If they are succesful, yes

Even if they are unsuccessful they can be arrogant. In fact that arrogance is what sometimes leads to no success it seems.

[duke knooby]

I'm incredibly surprised at Nico Rosbergs retirement.

not many get the opportunity to retire as world champion, and even fewer take the opportunity, so congrats nico. Enjoy your retirement.

[duke knooby]

Of all the bars in Dublin to choose, by pure chance, I chose a favourite haunt of "the dubliners". And if it hadn't said it on the bottom of the beer mats, I might never have known.

And the Guinness was really really good!!


(And Julie, apparently a mr Springsteen has also popped in :) )

[duke knooby]

And I still don't like euro's... Very confusing and feel like Monopoly money.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Of all the bars in Dublin to choose, by pure chance, I chose a favourite haunt of "the dubliners". And if it hadn't said it on the bottom of the beer mats, I might never have known.

And the Guinness was really really good!!


(And Julie, apparently a mr Springsteen has also popped in :) )

I hear he does enjoy the occasional visit to the pub. :cheers:

(I probably would have asked which barstool he sat on. :angst: :-P ;))

[duke knooby]

foy tomorrow :)

[duke knooby]

and new tyres time, never a good sign when the canvas is poking through

[Guy]

foy tomorrow :)
His Purple Rain cover was wicked.

[duke knooby]

His Purple Rain cover was wicked.

yeah it is!

but he didn't do it last night, still a good gig though! :D

[duke knooby]

this very day, 22 years ago was my first meat loaf concert

and what a gig it was!!!

[Julie in the rv mirror]

this very day, 22 years ago was my first meat loaf concert

and what a gig it was!!!

You're old! ;)

[AndrewG]

Not quite sure what all this dumpstarwars is about. I don't really care to be honest. I can make up my own mind about whether people are trying to put in political messages in movies. Having said that seeing the Rogue One screenplay writer's Twitter timeline so full of anti Trump messages just before the movie is getting released is very disappointing.

Get it together folks in the entertainment world: you are trying to sell your product to everyone regardless of whether you think your customers' opinion on politics is correct.
If you think you really know better you should rise above it all and not play silly games on Twitter for point scoring and to try to improve your feelings. Do your job instead!

Feck sake.

[duke knooby]

You're old! ;)

Or as Garth sang, much to young to feel this damn old.

[Julie in the rv mirror]

If you think you really know better you should rise above it all and not play silly games on Twitter for point scoring and to try to improve your feelings. Do your job instead!

Feck sake.

I wish the president elect would do HIS job, instead of whining on Twitter because SNL made fun of him. So much for rising above it all. :roll:

[Sebastian.]

Way to excited for tomorrow...

TREAT YO' SELF 2016.... IT'S THE BEST DAY OF THE YEAR!

[tonyloaf]

have a good night all!!

[Adje]

Bit of an anticlimax, but Rico Verhoeven trully is the King of Kickboxing, beating Badr Hari by tko.

[melon]

Many many ouches and no memories of getting them... must have been a good night

[duke knooby]

happy birthday rj... wherever you're hiding these days

[duke knooby]

another of my old cars is up for sale, and it still looks great... it was one of my favourites.

sooooooooooooo tempted


sooo sooooo tempted

[duke knooby]

i stupidly downloaded ios10, and what a pile of shite it is

i can only assume apple were highly influenced by windows 8

[madagascar]

I think Adje should go to bed.

[Adje]

I would, but I don't trust you around this place by yourself. :|

[melon]

My back hurts....

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Mel, will you be seeing Bruce when he heads down your way? :-)

[melon]

Mel, will you be seeing Bruce when he heads down your way? :-)

Yup, got my ticket

[Julie in the rv mirror]

Yup, got my ticket
Awesome- enjoy! :-) Perth, right? Which show?

It will be interesting to see what he plays. I'll be watching on Periscope, if we're lucky. ;)

[melon]

Awesome- enjoy! :-) Perth, right? Which show?

It will be interesting to see what he plays. I'll be watching on Periscope, if we're lucky. ;)

Yeah Perth, I got the first one. Can't wait!

[Sebastian.]

May God have mercy on the man thay doubts what he's sure of...

Merry Christmas everyone.

[duke knooby]

george michael now, it's been a bad year for singers and musicians

[Julie in the rv mirror]

george michael now, it's been a bad year for singers and musicians

It sure has! :(

[nozza]

So sad another one for that great band in the sky .

[AndrewG]

Horrible about George Michael. So young and he was super multi talented like Prince was. I grew up with Wham! and George's solo stuff. So many great songs, too many to mention. There was no single school disco party without "Wake me up before you go go".

Meat's tribute tweet was one of the first to be read on Sky News last night.

[tonyloaf]

who is still on the buffet??

[duke knooby]

just re watched George Michael perform somebody to love from Freddie's tribute concert... stunning performance!!!

[duke knooby]

and how did i manage to get a puncture on the rear tyre, why not the front tyre???? it was knackered anyway

[AndrewG]

Rest in peace Princess Leia. :-(

[Adje]

Rest in peace Princess Leia. :-(

:|

[duke knooby]

the guinness was good, the company was great

but time was short

[duke knooby]

theres much more piano than i remembered in chsib!

[Monstro]

theres much more piano than i remembered in chsib!

An album that should be revisited on a regular basis, got a vid of Jasmine singing along to the title track two days ago

[AndrewG]

The opening two songs of CHSIB rivals Steinman's best work imo.

[MarkS]

Happy New Year! Wherever you call home.

[tonyloaf]

Everygrey new album rocks

[Guy]

Bring back #fakemeatloaf

[tonyloaf]

meet up with MR Guy very soon

[Adje]

Watching the Golden Globes there are 7 things I want to point out:

1 I want Ricky Gervais back

2 I don't get the appeal of Jimmy Fallon. I'm still waiting for him to actually have one funny moment (and not just at the Globes)

3 The Golden Globes need more Ricky Gevais

4 Not every award needs a political speech. I get it, Trump is bad and Hollywood hates him for it (eventhough I agree I don't need to see it at an award event)

5 I miss Ricky Gervais

6 Nice short memorial for Carrie Fisher and Debby Reynolds

7 Ricky Gervais would have spiced things up

[duke knooby]

its just occurred to me that my taste in meat loaf songs must be almost as left field as warios. the big songs that almost everyone loves i can quite readily skip in a heartbeat, rnr dreams, baab and gatw, in contrast to warios 80's fetish which almost everyone else skips lolllzzz

[Guy]

Still thinking I'm Marco Van Basten on the pitch!
I'm 42 years old!!! 😫

[duke knooby]

found a video walk around of me old school on facebook, never thought i'd see the inside of it again now it's been flattened. so many memories.

[Guy]

found a video walk around of me old school on facebook, never thought i'd see the inside of it again now it's been flattened. so many memories.
Was it in black and white?
# guessing 😉

[tonyloaf]

epica new album is gooooooood

[duke knooby]

Was it in black and white?
# guessing ��

lol, nah, just my memories

[AndrewG]

International trade Scotland with rest of UK: £48.5 billion.
International trade Scotland with ALL countries beyond UK: £27.5 billion.

Remind me again Nicola Sturgeon why Scotland leaving the UK would benefit Scotland even in the slightest more than leaving the EU?

LUNACY!

Wish my beloved Scotland would grow up from this England hating attitude.

I did and I am happy.

[duke knooby]

i'm still puzzled how such a supposedly nationalist party as the snp are so pro (european) union, lol, but then again, maybe it's cause of where i'm from

[duke knooby]

it's annoying to find an ebay bargain, that the seller won't ship other than to the mainland

[Monstro]

it's annoying to find an ebay bargain, that the seller won't ship other than to the mainland

If it's cost effective mail it to me and I'll forward it

[duke knooby]

Cheers Michael, you're a top bloke! Had it been a small portable item I'd gladly have taken you up on that :)

[duke knooby]

Mot passed :)

now to swap the wheels back to the car they came from

[melon]

Shoulder is ka ka

[tonyloaf]

ouch its cold

[tonyloaf]

Mel is rocking with the boss

[melon]

Mel is rocking with the boss

We even wore matching shirts, we're practically besties now....

[AndrewG]

So happy the never will grow up morons Ant and Dec won the best presenter national television award for the 16th time in a row. Was almost losing sleep over the fact someone else might get a chance for once. Close one. Phew.

[tonyloaf]

where to next

[duke knooby]

Cat 1, me 0

Those claws are sharp!

[Monstro]

Cat 1, me 0

Those claws are sharp!

Pussy!

[duke knooby]

and finally the industry has woken up to the fact almost nobody wants 3d tv's :)

i thought 3d tv was aload of ballocks, and the same for curved screens

so far 1 out of 2 aint bad

[duke knooby]

drunk and tired but i stayed with him till the end

[tonyloaf]

a splendid beer with my guy

[duke knooby]

it would appear ive got someone to buy something for me on ebay that no one knows if it even works for not even a cheap price

the unknown is always more fun!

[melon]

I can hear someone in my street playing guitar and I can't figure out where it's coming from

[duke knooby]

I can hear someone in my street playing guitar and I can't figure out where it's coming from

probably from either the guitar or amp :-P

[duke knooby]

another of my old cars is up for sale, and it still looks great... it was one of my favourites.

sooooooooooooo tempted


sooo sooooo tempted

and 6 weeks later, i've made contact :shock:

[melon]

probably from either the guitar or amp :-P

Oh haha, very sharp duke, lol

[samurai7]

Just been speaking with a promoter who has asked if I'd like to take my tribute show over to Belfast. Um... HELL YES!!! Fingers crossed this comes off, I'm already getting excited!

[tonyloaf]

well done mate!

[duke knooby]

empire gig Sean?

[duke knooby]

oh my, this could be my only chance to ever hear surfs up live!!

[samurai7]

empire gig Sean?

Not quite, lol

[Sebastian.]

Champagne probably wasn't then best post run drink.

[tonyloaf]

what to do???

[melon]

what to do???

All the things

[tonyloaf]

time to fly

[Blackkat13]

Just sadden by it. I love IMDB boards. So on February 20th all the boards will be deleted on the site. This means no more Message Boards all together on celebs, movies, tv shows, and all the others. I thought I would pass this along to anyone who loves the site. There is a petition to save it. https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petition-to-keep-the-imdb-messageboards-going

[Adje]

Just sadden by it. I love IMDB boards. So on February 20th all the boards will be deleted on the site. This means no more Message Boards all together on celebs, movies, tv shows, and all the others. I thought I would pass this along to anyone who loves the site. There is a petition to save it. https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/petition-to-keep-the-imdb-messageboards-going

I signed it but I do understand why they are closing down. I never saw so many trolls and haters spamming all the movie boards as on IMDB. It was just no fun anymore. :(

[Blackkat13]

I try to hold out hope. If they get rid of the trump threads and board. That's alot of hate right there. Politics is always a fight. I just post fun stuff, jokes, and images.

[Adje]

I try to hold out hope. If they get rid of the trump threads and board. That's alot of hate right there. Politics is always a fight. I just post fun stuff, jokes, and images.

LOL all I see is Mary Sue this... Mary Sue that...

If you want to discuss a movie a group of haters (or sometimes one hater with multiple accounts), joins in to troll the sh*t out of that topic.

I hope they keep it up but it would be nice to see some moderation down there ;-)

[duke knooby]

it would appear ive got someone to buy something for me on ebay that no one knows if it even works for not even a cheap price

the unknown is always more fun!

it works!

not quite sure how it made 76k miles disappear, but we'll fix that later

now how long do i have to sit and wait for a fixed penalty notice to arrive?

[duke knooby]

happy birthday adje!

[Adje]

happy birthday adje!

I'm sure it will be. Thanks :cool:

[Julie in the rv mirror]

I'm sure it will be. Thanks :cool:

Happy Birthday! :-)

[tonyloaf]

great new album from delain

[duke knooby]

2 years

[duke knooby]

and 25 years since the maastricht treaty, can't be long till the european union turns 25

[duke knooby]

on the brightside, i've almost 5 weeks of holidays to take before the end of april

[Guy]

on the brightside, i've almost 5 weeks of
holidays to take before the end of

april

5 weeks of feet up and pizza eating?

[tonyloaf]

id say you could get a few gigs in????

[duke knooby]

but it's really just sleep I need

[Guy]

but it's really just sleep I need
Sleep when you're dead dude.
Come on..........

[duke knooby]

but I am more than broken

Such a large sleep debt

[tonyloaf]

rock it!

[duke knooby]

2 thoughts, I'd love Sarge to return..

and why did i have to go through the boredom of 173 critical updates before windows would tell me what i already knew...

but apart from being on windys 8, it's such a nice laptop

[Guy]

I used to go out with a brickies daughter.
Cement the world to me.

[AndrewG]

In a world of anti Trump stupid sheep celebrities, Joy Villa was exceptionally clever to turn this on its head and probably secure herself a decent /improved pop music career from now on wearing her "Make America Great Again" dress at this year's Grammy's. Hats off.

[Adje]

In a world of anti Trump stupid sheep celebrities, Joy Villa was exceptionally clever to turn this on its head and probably secure herself a decent /improved pop music career from now on wearing her "Make America Great Again" dress at this year's Grammy's. Hats off.

But I guess being the President and calling out a store because they are not selling his daughter's failing clothing line, or undermining judges because they follow the law and constitution is okay?

I changed my mind. Celebrities and other folks need to be vocal because there is no telling what will happen if he gets under the radar.

[tonyloaf]

espresso please

[Monstro]

espresso please

carte noir ok?

[tonyloaf]

Thank you Sir!

[AndrewG]

But I guess being the President and calling out a store because they are not selling his daughter's failing clothing line, or undermining judges because they follow the law and constitution is okay?

I changed my mind. Celebrities and other folks need to be vocal because there is no telling what will happen if he gets under the radar.

It was not my point. There is no point me debating politics with you anymore.

Regardless, every leader of course needs to have his or her actions scrutinised, whether you agree with what they stand for and do or not. Whether it's Barry Obama, Donnie Trump, Geert Wilders or Mark "1000 Euro" Rutte.

My point here was Joy Villa seized a perfect marketing opportunity:
http://media.mlxxfc.net/Screen Shot 2017-02-13 at 19.13.23.png

[Adje]

It was not my point.

Ahh my bad. I missed it because of the 'anti Trump stupid sheep celebrities' opening.

[AndrewG]

Ahh my bad. I missed it because of the 'anti Trump stupid sheep celebrities' opening.

Indeed you did, since I was attacking celebrities for their sheepish hypocritical attitude towards politicians or reactions to what is in the news rather than attacking actual politicians or their policies in that opening.

This particular woman could have voted for Hillary or for one of the independents or not at all for all I know. It doesn't really bother me. I was merely fascinated by her dress in amongst the usual anti Trump rhetoric now associated with awards shows and what has subsequently happened to her record sales.

If you think the celebrities at awards shows are doing a great job that's fine with me. I think a lot of their speeches are typical hot air from the NIMBY-ism kind.

[BostonAngel]

It was not my point. There is no point me debating politics with you anymore.

Regardl


You know politics is heated topic and will ALWAYS invite debate. People have such different opinions. If you truly don't want to debate politics, then don't post about it!

[stretch37]

missing Meat Loaf...Ah, I hope he's doing well

[duke knooby]

why don't media news outlets just give us the news, rather than turning it into a story on how we should think or feel?

[duke knooby]

bolts 6mm to long, good practice says measure twice, cut once...

Me, estimate once, cut once

Precision engineering :)

[duke knooby]

Actually good practice would say use the correct length bolt lol

[duke knooby]

where's mr chairboys these days?

[duke knooby]

so I really gotta say, how awesome R's cap is, and I really wasn't expecting RJ to be there :)