29. Surf's Up [Archive] - mlukfc.com Forums

White of High

14 Nov 2002, 19:21

This is the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE TO HEAVEN topic.
Let's Go to Rock 'n' Roll!!!!!!!

Surf's Up (9)

I think this is the best song on this album. It's a fantastic ballad. I wonder that feeling breaks out of the music - step by step. The lyrics is following the music. The best line is:

"I'm gonna give you what I'm hopin' you'll be givin' to me"

The rhymes are tinkling, the music is stronger and stronger...

My score: 9

Average: 8.52 (102.2/12)

Michel

14 Nov 2002, 20:33

I agree with you, maybe the best song on the album.

Typical Jim song, great backing vocals on this track.

It's a strong ballad with all Steinman parts, what makes it a good song. This version is offcourse better than Jim's own version.

My Score: 8/9

Tim

14 Nov 2002, 20:49

Indeed a great song. The version from Jim STeinmans album is also great, and the "remix" of the song also. Very cool.

To quote Michel, a typicall Steinman song.

A 8.7

White of High

14 Nov 2002, 22:13

I agree with you it's better tham Jim's version, but I'm missing the bazuki solo. Jim's version is so strange by bazuki... and good.

White of High

14 Nov 2002, 22:14

I agree with you it's better than Jim's version, but I'm missing the bazuki solo. Jim's version is so strange by bazuki... and good.

14 Nov 2002, 23:43

Feleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeena ... :mrgreen:

White of High

14 Nov 2002, 23:57

Sorry R.! What?

Sometimes I don't understand you...

Feleena

15 Nov 2002, 00:36

:D Surfs Up is the song I would love to hear Meat sing live. At my meet and greet in 1999 at Wembly I even asked him if he could sing it for me!! But he told me sorry I cant!
Sigh those lyrics "were on the edge of forever and we are never gonna fail!" oh and of course "Surfs Up and sooooooo am I" Id die and go to heaven!!!!!!!!
Thanks R! For telling me about this topic Ill shut up now!

Hugs

Feleena x

15 Nov 2002, 10:04

Great Song. This album is the best of the three in the period 1983-1986.
Ik give the song a 8,5!

Twan :)

Anonymous

15 Nov 2002, 20:33

thankyou! I was wondering what it was, the bouzoki at the end is the best part of the JS version - at first I thought it was mandolin, but then knew it wasn't. JS' version is too long but I think the high vocals make it a bit better.

Bohemian

16 Nov 2002, 07:40

Jim's version is actually sung by Rory Dodd, who has a great voice and personally I'd love to see Jim do an album wiht him.

I probably prefer the Bad For Good version... well... depending on what day of the week it is changes my favourite version.

Bohemian

Bohemian

16 Nov 2002, 07:43

Great Song. This album is the best of the three in the period 1983-1986.
Ik give the song a 8,5!

Twan :)

What do you mean three songs from 1983 - 1986?

Bohemian

Michel

16 Nov 2002, 17:41

Bohemian, even I can read that he meanes that the album Bad Attitude is the of the three albums, Midnight, Bad, Blind.
But no offence!

About the Jim and Meat version, I always think Meat's version is always better than Jims version, because Jim hasn't the voice to sing his own song. And no one can sing a Steinman-song like Meat can.

About Surf's Up live, Meat did it on the Storytellers tour, but nobody has bootlegs from this tour.

The Flying Mouse

29 Nov 2002, 00:14

:twisted: A beautiful romantic song.
The music is slow but very powerful.Meat's voice is very powerful and full of emotion.
The lyrics are very pleading("How Hard Do I Gotta' Try")and remind me of For Crying Out Loud.
I agree that this song would sound awesome live.
9/10 Never gonna' fail.

Anonymous

29 Nov 2002, 12:38

I love the song too, but every time I sing along, my englishness kicks in and I have to sing "How hard do I HAVE to try?"

Anonymous

29 Nov 2002, 12:51

white loaf whatever ur name is where can i get that picture of the winged angel on your profile? its beautiful

White of High

29 Nov 2002, 18:39

I have found it in the store of the mlukfc in the profile section. If you don't find it there you must search out of the sites of Michael Whelan. Maybe it is his picture.

R. could help you more...

02 Dec 2002, 20:31

You'll find this picture (amongst others) in our avatar gallery.
However, you will need to register in order to go there.

The link to the official Michael Wheelan website can be found in our links section on http://www.mlukfc.com/ .

White of High

14 Jan 2003, 22:26

I don't understand anything. Meat was singing Surf's up and Nowhere Fast by Jim Steinman. Why didn't sing more songs by him to this album?

And another question! Was Meat's or Streets of Fire's version of Nowhere Fast before???

15 Jan 2003, 10:13

Special for Bohemian: I love this song very much.
Now I'm going to say something about the album (as a real Meat Loaf-fan, you know which album I'm takling about, so I called it just "the album as I did in my first post on this topic). The album is the best of three in the period 1983-1986.
8O Be aware!:Now Im gonna change and say something about the song (Surf's Up) again.
I give the song a 8,5!

I hope you'll understand what I mean! :lol: (Despite my English isn't my mother language and wasn't my favourite subject on school!)

Twan

Garrett

18 Jan 2003, 11:11

Now, what should I say to this song? I don't need to say something. It's logical that only the highest score is right for this one!

10/10

Roddyboy

05 May 2003, 00:15

I love this song too but I have wondered for 8 years now what does "Surf's up" really means?

The lyrics in the refrain goes:

How hard
How hard
How hard do I gotta try
I want all of your love
Surf's up
I need it so bad
Surf's up
I need it so bad
Surf's up and so am I
I gotta give you some love
Surf's up
and so am I...

How are you if you are "Surf's up"? Any englishman/woman here who can be kind enough and explain it to a dum swede :oops:

White of High

05 May 2003, 15:00

I'm not English but I think the feeling's on a surf (if you are a surfer) as same as what you feel with a girl...

Roddyboy

05 May 2003, 15:10

I'm not English but I think the feeling's on a surf (if you are a surfer) as same as what you feel with a girl...

That is a good explanation it can mean that why didn't I think of that 8)

Thank you very much for giving me that explanation :D

White of High

05 May 2003, 16:17

But I can't believe it!
A surf and a girl??? :lol:

Roddyboy

05 May 2003, 16:50

How do you mean? Why can't you believe it?

White of High

05 May 2003, 18:06

Could you believe surfing's feeling is as same as a night with a girl's feeling?

Roddyboy

05 May 2003, 21:12

I'm not a surfer but I can imagine there is a special rush of surfing and when being with a partner is also a rush so I can believe it is like that

White of High

05 May 2003, 21:15

Hmmm...
I'd like to learn surfing...

Roddyboy

05 May 2003, 21:19

Why? Because you don't have a partner to get that rush with feeling "Surf's up" with togehter?

White of High

05 May 2003, 21:22

Aaahhhh...
Good question. The surf seems far away...

Roddyboy

05 May 2003, 21:25

he he easier to find a partner then to Surf with :D

White of High

05 May 2003, 21:51

I haven't got sea...

Roddyboy

05 May 2003, 21:53

Oh I see that is a problem if you're gonna surf.... Then get a partner instead and skip the surfing it is far better :lol:

JacenSolo

06 May 2003, 00:20

Hmmmm, I'd have been curious to here how much better this track would've sounded if Steinman had produced it..as it is I'll give it a 8.5!
My Score: 8.5

Quigmo

17 Sep 2003, 10:33

I've really enjoyed JS lyrics with all the different levels of meanings that could be interprited. That is untill I heard this the first time on BFG. I think JS went to far with this one, too blatent. Still I was curious as too what I would think if the voice was singing it. Well here's my answer. ML is in fine form but it's not enough to save this Stienman song.
4/10

RSG

21 Sep 2003, 02:26

Surf's Up, is an excellent song for such a hard album. Oh My ROCKIN HEAVENS!!!!!!!! This song, is a 10 all the way. His voice, is amazing, I really can't believe it!! The music is Heavy with heart, his voice is amazing with heart. Surf's Up, i don't picture anything yet, but you know something, this is a beautiful SLAMMIN song. WoW, thats all i can say. GO MEAT!!!!!!!!!! Solo, what a nice touch.

10\10

MjP2

21 Sep 2003, 12:27

Any englishman/woman here who can be kind enough and explain it to a dum swede :oops:

Well, here you go you dum swede (I'm a finn...)

I've always understood that it means that he's "up" as well. Surf is up and so is he. And what this "up" means should be pretty obvious.

On Jim Steinman fans tribute album "Nothing But a Merciless Night" there ist a cover sung by a woman. She sings "Surf's wet and so am I." :)

I love this song, it's among my top five Steinsongs but I preger "Jim's" (Rory Dodd's) version of the song. I think his gentle beautiful voice suits better to this type of song, besides the whole production is so much _more_ than on the Meat's version. Other than that, I don't like the fact that Meat's version is faster than the original.

In my opinion the only Meat cover that's significantly better than the original is Out of the Frying Pan.

Meat: 8/10
Rory: 10/10

MjP2

Bart

22 Sep 2003, 09:44

this song is made for an up tempo disco version! Just like they have done with total eclipse of the heart. I think Jim was inspired by it, cause he made an up tempo 2 outta 3 for Bonnie. Surf's up needs an up tempo house disco rap version! With a big giant female voice : i've got the power!"

8) 8)

PanicLord

22 Sep 2003, 22:10

I really love this song, the emotions are so powerful, you can't help being swept along by it (just like a really big wave! :lol: ).

Of the two versions, Meat's is definitely my favourite: no one can sing a Steinsong like Meat. His voice is so powerful and raw, that it almost makes me get up in sympathy :lol: :oops: .

All in all a rousing song, strong lyrics, great backing music (although I also wonder if Jim would have produced it better - I'm not sure), and such powerful emotion - classic Meat / Jim 8) .

10 out of 10!

Gez

03 Nov 2003, 17:24

Great song guys and gals. I used to be confused about this song, thinking about doin the washing :D :D

Tasha

01 Dec 2003, 12:20

One of my favourites (and I agree with the analogy made as to what is "up!!") I heard the JS version first so tend to prefer that. Great stuff.

LostSoul

29 Dec 2003, 21:54

About Surf's Up live, Meat did it on the Storytellers tour, but nobody has bootlegs from this tour.

He did? 8O

I love this song too but I have wondered for 8 years now what does "Surf's up" really means?

How are you if you are "Surf's up"? Any englishman/woman here who can be kind enough and explain it to a dum swede :oops:

I'm not English either... but I'll translate it for you: "can't you see my faded Levis bursting apart..."
Got it? :wink:

back to topic: I LOOOOOVE this song!
It sounds like an "Objects In The Frying Pan" hybrid!
I wish I could hear it once live...

10/10 of course!

Michel

31 Dec 2003, 11:43

About Surf's Up live, Meat did it on the Storytellers tour, but nobody has bootlegs from this tour.

He did? 8O

Yes, he did. :lol:

Bart

02 Jan 2004, 16:01

How you know?

What doe sit mean: surf's up? I still don't understand?

AndyK

02 Jan 2004, 16:10

In Jim Steinmans own words.... Surfs Up is a "boner" song :D

I love the song, but Meat doesn't really do it justice on Bad Attitude, it lacks some of the passion and a touch of the innocence that is there on the Rory Dodd vocal on Bad For Good. It needs the real orchestrations rather than the synthed mid-80's sound.

All in all 7/10 for Meats version - could do better.

Bart

02 Jan 2004, 16:36

But he sings it to a girl: Surfs up and so am i. So what does that mean?

AndyK

02 Jan 2004, 19:08

But he sings it to a girl: Surfs up and so am i. So what does that mean?

Well far be it from me to be explicit openly in public (I've still got the court order preventing me) but the key words in tht line are and so am I you're brain is obviously not smutty enough Bart ;)

evil nickname

02 Jan 2004, 21:32

But he sings it to a girl: Surfs up and so am i. So what does that mean?

I thought I posted this earlier today, but apperently not.
Let's try again: the surf is up, and a part of him too. Do you get it now, or do we need to whip out (pun intended) the E-word? :)

Wild_Honey

03 Jan 2004, 00:47

10/10!!! :D :D :D

AndyK

03 Jan 2004, 00:51

rockfenris2005

03 Jan 2004, 12:01

It's actually another song from Jim's NEVERLAND. Peter baptises Wendy into the pack - by the waters of the purple surf. I assume it was done very sexually, because of the lyrics. Jim originally intended "Took the Words" to be used for this scene - but he wrote another song.

Bart

05 Jan 2004, 13:55

yeah, i know that. Read it in Phenomenanonoanenoom of Excess.

I always thought it had to do with the beach and the waves or something like that, you know: surfing, surfboard. I am still not sure its all about having a b..er.

LostSoul

05 Jan 2004, 17:35

I am still not sure its all about having a b..er.

You want me to believe that?
There're much less explicits lyrics on Meat's songs and you're stuck on that one?! :lol:

What about Jumping The Gun? I am (almost) sure it ain't nothing to do with Flying Mouse's explanation... :lmao:

Bart

06 Jan 2004, 09:12

It was also about Jim's explanation of the song in that book, the phenonanenoununonmenon... It was about Peter en Wendy at the beach. So never thought of the sex-thing.

Michel

06 Jan 2004, 11:16

How you know?

What doe sit mean: surf's up? I still don't understand?

I read it on Sue's page.

LostSoul

08 Jan 2004, 17:42

It was also about Jim's explanation of the song in that book, the phenonanenoununonmenon... It was about Peter en Wendy at the beach. So never thought of the sex-thing.

No one to support me on that one?
I'm looking a bit naughty right now... :oops: :oops: :oops:

batloaf

09 Jan 2004, 03:31

in this song you can clearly hear Jim Steinman vocal Abbility (hope i spell that right) or better to say his limitations, i know Steinman composed some great music but to hear him sing slow songs like this is Awful

musically the original version is better than Meat ones but i still prefer a good voice above a minor version

i give all version an 7

evil nickname

09 Jan 2004, 20:20

in this song you can clearly hear Jim Steinman vocal Abbility (hope i spell that right) or better to say his limitations, i know Steinman composed some great music but to hear him sing slow songs like this is Awful

Too bad that he didn't sing that on Bad For Good then, isn't it? Vocal credits go to Rory "Turn around, bright eyes" Dodd :)

batloaf

10 Jan 2004, 03:34

in this song you can clearly hear Jim Steinman vocal Abbility (hope i spell that right) or better to say his limitations, i know Steinman composed some great music but to hear him sing slow songs like this is Awful

Too bad that he didn't sing that on Bad For Good then, isn't it? Vocal credits go to Rory "Turn around, bright eyes" Dodd :)

':?' Is THat Sure
oh my god i've been listen to Bat out of hell with Volume on Max way too much.
my ears are going Bad

evil nickname

10 Jan 2004, 13:47

On the free 7" / 45RPM single that came with my BFG LP, it says under "Surf's Up" "Rory Dodd: Featured Vocals". It's a public secret that Jim didn't sing "Surf's Up" and "Lost Boys and Golden Girls" on his record :)

And for going deaf: what's wrong with BOOH being the last thing you ever hear? :D

Michel

10 Jan 2004, 16:21

Did Jim not sing thos songs?

evil nickname

10 Jan 2004, 16:36

Didn't I say that?
Didn't I say that?
Did I tell you that he didn't?
Cause it would have been a matter of fact!

:mrgreen:

meatwka

10 Jan 2004, 17:03

great song, the moment i heard it for the 1st time i liked it. Possibly the best song on the album! Great lyrics, music and brilliantly performed! :lol:

Bart

12 Jan 2004, 09:26

RadioMaster

09 Oct 2006, 19:53

not bad
Meat´s version is better than the BfG one....although I like both....

from the situation it reminds me YTTWROOMM

8

batcity

09 Oct 2006, 22:09

Surfs up by jim, Just orgasmic gothic over the top HEAVEN!!!

24K

23 Oct 2006, 22:58

This song is fab,really like it.8 out of 10.

duke knooby

23 Oct 2006, 23:16

with out a doubt, the best song ever recorded, when done by meat. full marks!!!!

Monstro

24 Oct 2006, 00:20

with out a doubt, the best song ever recorded, when done by meat. full marks!!!!

And Jonty gets it right, stunning song that just leaps out at ya from the album...vocals to die for!!!!

lorenzoduke

24 Oct 2006, 06:06

I always read it like that too.

I really think this could be a show stopper live, though I guess we won't be hearing many (any?) non-Bat songs on the coming tour?

Bap

25 Oct 2006, 14:12

Amazing song! 9/10

Evil One

23 Jan 2007, 23:06

6. I like it, but not a patch on Steinman's original.

White of High

24 Jan 2007, 22:42

Average: 8.36 (167.2/20)

Monstro

24 Jan 2007, 22:53

Forgot to score it lol

10/10

mszee

24 Jan 2007, 23:38

10/10

djfierce

25 Jan 2007, 00:59

JanT

25 Jan 2007, 03:49

geordieloaf

07 Feb 2007, 23:25

One of my favourte Meat songs.
9/10

Eddie's Teddy

09 Feb 2007, 10:58

I absolutely love this song. Different class. Full marks from me. :D

RadioMaster

09 Feb 2007, 11:13

A truly great song, one of his best!
10/10

Lord Kagan

10 Feb 2007, 13:44

8/10 really great song

Feleena

10 Feb 2007, 18:56

I love this song sooooooo much 10 outa 10!!

Feleena x

florence75015

01 Sep 2009, 07:39

Very romantic and sensual song. Thanks to all of you, I now understand the "surf's up" meaning. I didn't get it at all :oops:
I like the slow beginning of the song that suddenly goes crescendo. It put the stress on the passion that inhabits that man and on his desire, that are reflected in Meat's voice.

9/10

glockenspiel

01 Sep 2009, 14:13

Transcendentally brilliant performance, sweeps you away like a huge ocean wave.
Do the marks people give get collated on 'The Standing'?
If so, I better go back to the others, and give marks.

For Surf's Up: 10

Evil One

01 Sep 2009, 22:35

Do the marks people give get collated on 'The Standing'?
They used to, but since White Of High was banned / threw a wobbly and left they haven't been touched. Perhaps a job for a junior mod in training?

RadioMaster

01 Sep 2009, 22:43

nah, cant we turn it into a poll and give it to warioloaf??

Wario

01 Sep 2009, 22:56

nah, cant we turn it into a poll and give it to warioloaf??

I second that :cool:

They used to, but since White Of High was banned / threw a wobbly and left they haven't been touched. Perhaps a job for a junior mod in training?

Dont remember that .... *Looks at archive*

BTW he was last on this site august 18th