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Invocation
10 Jul 2005, 11:30
Thought I'd bring this subject up as no one to my knowledge seems to have mentioned it yet.
I just wondered what everyones opinions were, particularly with a few of the tracks now available for download.
Don't get me wrong, Meat does it better than anybody else, but these performances are pretty hot. Rob Evan has an outstanding voice, Elaine Caswell is a goddess, Margoshes is king on piano, all that's missing is a better band as it does seem to lack a certain amount of production.
http://www.overthetopinfo.com/pages/11/index.htm
Bat out of Friesland
10 Jul 2005, 12:19
Well, I like Meat Loaf more.
Cause I think original is much better than a cover.
Greets,
Henderikus
I really enjoyed the simplistic take on the production which I'm presuming won't stick anyway. I love piano solos and Pray Lewd was the best of the bunch for me.
With regards to the production, Rinckoff mentioned those were raw cuts, to we can't really comment too much on that.
They were all good versions and many nice little bits in each. When truth be told though, Meat Loaf's versions are the best for me - though I'm 50/50 with Read Em And Weep and will have to wait for a full version to decide.
For a little bit more info for those who don't have it. They are a cover band which seems to have the blessing of Jim Steinman (and he was at one of their concerts if puddings are needing for proof).
needmoremeat
10 Jul 2005, 19:30
Well, I like Meat Loaf more.
Cause I think original is much better than a cover.
Greets,
Henderikus
Me too! :mrgreen: I'm very biased towards Meat, but I love everything Jim does, too, there is nothing else in the world that compares to the thrill of listening to Steinman's songs :-)
I would go on the website and get a couple of samples, but it comes up as Error, http 404 not found or whatever! :evil:
I think it's sounds a little bit like the albums. They just sing the albumsongs. They are not performing, not doing the songs there own way, I miss the character. I think Meat is the best to do those songs.
There is a topic about this, i remember.....
Got the album it is great!!!
needmoremeat
11 Jul 2005, 11:45
OK, I've just managed to get to the site somehow to get the clips. First one I got was Making Love Out Of Nothing At All, and I honest to God thought that he had a sore throat! He sounded in pain! Then, as the night went on, the sore throat disappeared but I don't know :? I guess when you hear someone else singing your favourite song of all time when you've always felt those kind of songs were "untouchable" there's a bit of a stigma and biased opinion, especially when you've been told "oh yeah, it's really good!" But that's just my opinion anyway.
Fave song of all time is Anything For Love, not Making Love, btw! In case it sounded like the latter was fave song ;)
18 til i die
11 Jul 2005, 16:22
I've just listened to the clips. In my opinion they don't even get half way in comparison to how Meat sings them. The guys got a great voice but i soon got bored and listened to ML instead.
I think Meats voice is a lot beter to listen at....:D :oops:
ChoccyBat
11 Jul 2005, 17:48
Not the best. Not a patch on Jim Steinman - his voice has very little musical flexibility. Anything for love is shocking. The band aint bad but he really can't sing.
ChoccyBat
11 Jul 2005, 17:49
Not the best. Not a patch on Steve Steinman. The guy just cannot sing. Anything for love is shockingly bad!
Sapphire Lady
11 Jul 2005, 21:44
Not the best. Not a patch on Steve Steinman. The guy just cannot sing. Anything for love is shockingly bad!
I think that's a bit harsh. He's not Meat Loaf and he's not trying to sound like Meat Loaf. He's just singing the song in his own way. He's a brave man to sing a cover of a Meat Loaf song - no one is ever going to prefer his version over the original !!
ChoccyBat
11 Jul 2005, 22:41
No, I think Steve Steinman is fantastic, and can sing. One of the songs on there - Making Love Out Of Nothing At All - is not a meat song, so by your theory I should be open minded about it. I am not a massive air supply fan, who i think did the original, but i think this version is awful!!! He simply can't sing, simple as that
Lets not talk about tributes here... allright?? :(
ChoccyBat
12 Jul 2005, 00:28
er, the thread is about a tribute?? The reply suggested i didn't like him cos he was singing meat songs - i was pointing out that some tributes i really do like - and s steinman is a very very good tribute. But this one, in my opinion, is poor and cannot sing
I think its complete crap to be honest
What a bit steaming pile of poo. It's disgusting hearing some guy with a really poor voice singing meats songs. Yes, Steinman wrote them, but the majority, Meat made his own.
Listening to this joke pretty much kill meats songs is disgusting, I'm just glad I didn't get to hear this retard singing 'For Crying Out Loud'!
Rob Evan is NOT a tribute to Meat. The Over The Top shows, featuring Rob Evan, Elaine Caswell, Steve Margoshes etc are a tribute to the music of Jim Steinman. There's a subtle difference.
evil nickname
12 Jul 2005, 16:22
I think its complete crap to be honest
What a bit steaming pile of poo. It's disgusting hearing some guy with a really poor voice singing meats songs. Yes, Steinman wrote them, but the majority, Meat made his own.
Listening to this joke pretty much kill meats songs is disgusting, I'm just glad I didn't get to hear this retard singing 'For Crying Out Loud'!
And I think you should've thought at least twice before hitting "submit reply" on that. Do you really feel that kind of language was appropriate?
Childish language? Yes... I'd much rather have put 'bad' language, but respect the rules of the forum.
I work in the music industry, and could pick out every little nasty part of it that is so wrong, but, I'm seeing Meat tonight so all is good.
It's simply rubbish, I know it's not a Meat tribute... but that doesn't make it any less poo! :)
evil nickname
12 Jul 2005, 20:44
Silly me for thinking that calling someone a retard--while knowing as a "proffesional" within the "music industry" that there is no accounting for taste and that personal preferences are just that--is "bad" enough.
ChoccyBat
12 Jul 2005, 20:50
Look - we can all tell someone who can't sing. Maybe retard was a harsh word but you do get a strange impression of the bloke from the songs - I agree with the person who said he sounds like he is in pain!!!
At the end of the day it doesn't matter whether he is singing meat loaf, celine dion, or his own stuff - he can't sing and it sounds crap. I can't sing either, so I don't record songs.
evil nickname
12 Jul 2005, 20:57
You know what... forget it.
ChoccyBat
12 Jul 2005, 21:05
Okedokey. Its very forgettable anyway :)
White of High
12 Jul 2005, 21:57
What can I say?
I have a cover of a concert in February.
I don't like the voice of Rob. But I must say he is better now than Meat. Sorry Meat, but I think you can't sing in concert now. Don't throw me with a stone, but I think he is bad. I listened the symphoncic orchestra CD, I saw the DVD and I have to say that's a bullshit. Did you hear For Crying Out Loud by Rob? At the end that high 'C' in 30 seconds? And Meat in this same song? Grhhhhhh... I hope he will be better in studio on Bat3. He should sing more No Matter What what is deeply transponated song. Meat will never be as young as he all right now!
Hi friends :-P
Have you ever thought that these could be the reasons for the bad quality of his voice? :roll:
<<Please note: All mixes were straight to CD off the live sound board, no remixing or mastering. >>
<<Sound balances on recording are slightly compromised for the sake of the live mix.>>
You can find it on the OTT page.
Honestly, when I listened to the first stream files (64 bit or lower) of the MSO CD, Meats voice was also in a way "terrible" because the compression.
Don't judge a book by its compression ;)
ChoccyBat
13 Jul 2005, 00:17
Meat's voice has gone eh - never heard so much crap in my life
Agreed...
It's not 'gone' or he wouldn't be able to speak or sing at all, it's progressed.
And yes, I stand by the retard comment.
Meat's voice has gone eh - never heard so much crap in my life
agree with that....Man I LOVE HIS VOICE.....it doesn't have to be 100%..like Pavarotti :mad: (example) or soo..thats wouldn't sound ok with his songs...
And the sound of ones voice changes over the years..you can't expect it to stay the same...
daveake
13 Jul 2005, 22:50
First one I got was Making Love Out Of Nothing At All, and I honest to God thought that he had a sore throat! He sounded in pain! Then, as the night went on, the sore throat disappeared ...
Not so much a sore throat disappearing, as it being a completely different singer. :O
What can I say?
I have a cover of a concert in February.
I don't like the voice of Rob. But I must say he is better now than Meat. Sorry Meat, but I think you can't sing in concert now. Don't throw me with a stone, but I think he is bad. I listened the symphoncic orchestra CD, I saw the DVD and I have to say that's a bullshit. Did you hear For Crying Out Loud by Rob? At the end that high 'C' in 30 seconds? And Meat in this same song? Grhhhhhh... I hope he will be better in studio on Bat3. He should sing more No Matter What what is deeply transponated song. Meat will never be as young as he all right now!
Have you listened good to the CD/DVD? Maybe you don't like his voice, but he can hit all high notes there, and I didn't hear one false note.
me neither....man I would love to have a great voice..but hell everybody will run away ..lol..when I start to sing.. now..so I just shut up..
love the sound of Meat voice..
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