View Full Version : Who's the BEST lead guitarist Meat Loaf has worked with?
Pudding
11 Nov 2005, 04:28
Who do you think THE best lead guitarist Meat Loaf has worked with is? Not just touring, but studio as well.
For me it would have to be Todd Rundgren. No one has ever made a guitar sound like a motorbike the way he did.
Pud :twisted:
Paul Crook .. he's absolutely incredible !
Vicki
Well Pud, Todd does rock after all ;-)!! oooh i remember when I went to see him last year....i was on front row and he got right up to the edge of the stage and just played his guitar!!!! *jaw drops* !! Was pretty magnificant!!
Seeing as though Paul is the only one I've seen, I've got to say him really! Damon was good, but I prefer Paul's style of playing more....^_^!
Hmm best lead guitarist for me is somebody who we haven't seen play live yet and that is Eddie Martinez, My personal favourite though has to be Pat Thrall with Paul coming 3rd.:D
Pudding
11 Nov 2005, 09:52
Seeing as though Paul is the only one I've seen, I've got to say him really!
This why I put Not just touring, but studio as well. in my original post. I think some are basing their opinion purely on the fact that they've seen them in concert, which doesn't necessarily mean they're the best but the best they've seen.
I'm sure most people here have Bat 1, Bat 2, Deadringer, WTTN, CHSIB etc etc etc plus the official video's, concert video's/DVD's, plus the numerous bootlegs knocking about and so on and so forth. So I think a fairly good, educated, impartial point of view can be given.
Pud :twisted:
Well to me, you can do anything in the studio...you can make certain sounds by working on them etc......but on stage it's there and then and you're almost ripped to your bare essentials.
Todd played that solo once....Paul plays it everynight on tour! Now that's gotta say something, right??
Have to agree with Heli there. What we hear on an album is a lot of work that has / can be played about with. What we hear on stage is far nearer whats real. So choosing a touring band member is just as good :-)
Which mucks your idea of me chosing due to me favs, as that would actually be Damon lol. But I do feel Paul has the all round better package. Playing / stage presence etc.
Pudding
11 Nov 2005, 11:28
Which mucks your idea of me chosing due to me favs, as that would actually be Damon lol. But I do feel Paul has the all round better package. Playing / stage presence etc.
Actually it doesn't muck anything up because I never said people are choosing due to their favourites, I said: I think some are basing their opinion purely on the fact that they've seen them in concert which is true.
Also I'm not talking about all round package, looks, hair colour, leather pants etc don't constitute a good musician, I'm talking about pure playing ability. Even if some knobs were twiddled in the studio for Todd, I'm sure enough people have seen him play live with Utopia etc.
Pud :twisted:
Now this is a tough one ... for me it's down to Paul or Bob Kulick for the on stage work or Todd for the recording.
Best technically (in terms of playing skill) has to be Paul, likewise stage presence, although Bob was great in a mid-80's poodle rock way (if a bald man can be a poodle rocker).
Todd has produced some fantastic recorded work, and live he is spectacular. But I think that for sheer versatility Paul edges it - his solo's are less screaming than Pat Thralls or Damons and there's a calrity to his playing - especially when coupled with the backup from Randy that is incredible.
Studio wise then I will definitely have to agree with Todd...BOOH technically as genious and that was definitely due to Todd (in my opinion). He's just a musical genious! :mrgreen:
But my vote still goes for Paul. Live is always better imo!
My choice is based on sentimental and it is Bob Kulick. During my teens he was Meats guitarplayer. His stageprecense is good and funny. When he spinnes around it is great to watch and he has got his own sound. It is clear to hear when he is playing. Besides that a bold thin man besides the fat long hair dude.
Actually it doesn't muck anything up because I never said people are choosing due to their favourites, I said: I think some are basing their opinion purely on the fact that they've seen them in concert which is true.
Also I'm not talking about all round package, looks, hair colour, leather pants etc don't constitute a good musician, I'm talking about pure playing ability. Even if some knobs were twiddled in the studio for Todd, I'm sure enough people have seen him play live with Utopia etc.
Pud :twisted:
I've seen Todd and Paul play and I still think Paul.
Winston
11 Nov 2005, 15:15
Paul
The Flying Mouse
11 Nov 2005, 15:25
:twisted: Would have to say Paul.
His motorbike guitar is out of this world :yikes:
Also, that note at the begining of 2 Outta 3 on live with the Mel Symph :cool: .
Most amazing thing is his energy.The run on Out Of The Frying Pan, never missing a note, that was something else to watch :shock: .
Close runner up would be Mr Pat Thrall :twisted: .Great stage presence, and let's face it, the boy can play :up: .
I don't agree with the guitars being played about with, when you play in the studio the difference is if you make a mistake you can go over it, whereas if you make a mistake on stage you just have to carry on. Granted people do mess about with it, but it's a waste of time playing it if you are because you can generate the guitar sounds without playing. I think Paul live, he's the only I've seen play lead for Meat, but Todd as well, if we can take into account other cd's concerts they've played at, Todd again.
Todd Rundgren. The man is a genius, a wizard, a true star! The very best guitarist ever on a Meat Loaf album.
Paul Crook has brought a whole new element to the live Meat sound ... a much punchier, harder edge without losing any of the melodic quality of the songs. My vote goes to him for best Neverland Express guitarist.
Diane
I'd like to also remind you all that Brian May has worked with Meat Loaf, so I vote for him! :mrgreen:
(God I'm such a geek aren't I :roll:).....
...........don't answer that! :twisted:
Pudding
11 Nov 2005, 23:07
I'd like to also remind you all that Brian May has worked with Meat Loaf, so I vote for him! :mrgreen:
That's true, I forgot about him, I'm gonna change my vote from Todd to Brian. Anyone who can write a song about women with fat arses, has got to be some kind of genius :))
Pud :twisted:
That's true, I forgot about him, I'm gonna change my vote from Todd to Brian. Anyone who can write a song about women with fat arses, has got to be some kind of genius :))
Pud :twisted:
:cheer: YEY!!! Me and Pud agree!! :lmao: Miracles to happen! :twisted:
Bob Kulik definitely - grew up with him - if you know what I mean;) and he did let me touch his tight leopard skin trousers at Hammersmith - just the once.;)
chrissylf22
17 Nov 2005, 13:04
i would have to say Paul
Skeleton
17 Nov 2005, 14:02
I think itīs Paul or Todd.. Difficult to choose. Both of are excellent guitarists..
Pat Thrall- that man is rock and roll all over
Space Monkey
14 Dec 2005, 23:27
I think Paul's a great guitarist, but sometimes perhaps a bit too flashy. On the Melbourne DVD/CD he misses the start to YTTWROOMM, for example.
I really liked Pat Thrall live, although was it Bob playing guitar on Two Out Of Three on 'meat loaf live', because that solo is awesome?
I think if we're saying 'best' then Todd has to take it for his work on Bat. The Bat motorbike on the album can never be beaten. Also, just by 'filling in' as he puts it, he added all the riffs to Bat in between lines.
Suslak615
17 Dec 2005, 18:30
None of those are the best guitarist Meat ever worked with, its Davey Johnstone who performed on the Dead Ringer album is an amazing guitarist. He is better known as the longtime guitarist with Elton John, and he plays all the guitar on almost all of Elton's classics, he might not been with meat for long, but his body of worth is right up there with anyone.
Jack
tukayaway
15 Jan 2006, 00:20
For me it's Paul. Great on stage, and I prefer his harder sound. But his skill is blending in the harder sound whilst keeping true to the originals.
ChloeLee88
16 Jan 2006, 14:20
I think Paul's great...but I think its gotta be todd rundgren!
Chloe
It'll always be Pat Thrall to me, then the Neverland and Meat were in full swing Rock, Thrall on lead guitar and Meat in full theatrical dress circa Bat II 1993-1994.
I've liked them all, but my favourites have to be:
Paul Crook, Pat Thrall and Todd Rundgren. :D
Well to me its really hard to name a few. He's had some good ones.
In no particular order, I would say
Paul for his attitude towards the sounds he makes and plays -deadly!
Bald guy :oops: I forget his name, he was around in '86, and wrote that awesome solo for 2outta3. Aaaand Todd because after all, he made Bat a good part of what it is today...
Bald guy :oops: I forget his name, he was around in '86, and wrote that awesome solo for 2outta3.
Bob Kulick. Fantastic guitarist (despite the spandex) and an alround great guy!
samurai7
28 Jul 2006, 20:08
Yeah, it's Bob Kulick for me too. He played in the '78 tour and then re-joined for the Bad Attitude tour if I'm not mistaken, staying on for the BBIS and Lost Boys & Golden Girls tours. Very good indeed. Not that Pat, Paul etc aren't, but Bob's my fave.
Kulick the bald man?, :lol:
samurai7
29 Jul 2006, 03:08
Kulick the bald man?, :lol:
Yes, the very same. (except he wasn't bald in '78)
Bohemian
29 Jul 2006, 07:32
My favourite guitarists that have worked with Meat are Todd and Tim Pierce.
Todd is Godd, make no mistake about that.
My favourite guitarist's have to be Pat Thrall, Tim Pierce and Eddie Martinez.
Bohemian
30 Jul 2006, 06:36
Whoa hold the phone, I forgot Davey Johnstone! I associate him with Bad for Good more than Dead Ringer so I completely overlooked him.
I'll Kill You If You Don't Come Back... niiiiiiiiiiice. Davey rocks hard.
Davey and Todd. Two guitarists you can set your watch by. :rambo:
MeatGrl1
30 Jul 2006, 21:54
Paul 'Metal Loaf' Crook for me!
rockyboy74
17 Aug 2006, 19:37
I think of modern time Meat Loaf's best guitarist has to be Paul Crook absolutely amazing on stage, but my other favorite is Bob Kulick from the album Bad Attitude not only is this a great 1980's album but the guitaring is out of this world try playing it full blast and I'm sure you will all no what I mean
jossnjuice
17 Sep 2006, 23:27
gotta be pat thrall for me folks. saw him in 93 and he won me over with the first 2 min intro.
madagascar
10 Oct 2006, 15:30
Bruce Kullick, the brother of the bald Bob Kullick.
Todd Rundgren, Pat Thrall, Paul Crook are amazing, as well.
Keep Rockin'
dominic
Evil One
24 Jan 2007, 23:41
First: Pat Thrall
Second: Bob Kulick
Third: Paul Crook
PAUL CROOK AND RANDYFLOWERS
wolfy35
22 Feb 2010, 17:13
Now that is a question with lots of possibilities.
Do you mean Live, Studio or Overall ( Having done both )
Live my preference would be Damon LaScott, probably not a popular choice but he is mine
Studio hands down for me Steve Vai
Overall pat Thrall
That was a hard one because im old enough to remember all Meat has worked with and they all have some very good plus points
Paul Crook & Randy Flowers :cool:
Evil One
22 Feb 2010, 18:58
I gave my original thoughts three years ago. Since then Paul Crook has impressed me more.
1 Paul Crook
2 Pat Thrall
3 Bob Kulick
Bottom: Damon LaScott. He never impressed me, although perhaps that's not fair as he wasn't with the NLE long enough to really make the part his own.
Smithie
25 Feb 2010, 18:14
Paul & Randy are great, but my pick is Pat Thrall.
glamourgirl
25 Feb 2010, 19:11
Randy is my favorite guitarist.
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