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*Excluding* MSO. We all know that's good.
Aside from MSO, what is the best concert of Meat's that has been released? Which is the one I absolutely MUST own on DVD?
Recommendations please! :D
RadioMaster
19 Apr 2006, 22:37
I thought MSO was the only released concert DVD?
The only other i know is Storytellers, but for me thatīs not a real concert. There are just a few people and Meat donīt act like he whould in a big concert hall.
but the storytellers is great anyway
RadioMaster
19 Apr 2006, 22:48
Yeah, but i donīt count it as a concert DVD itīs more like a documentary
AndrewG
19 Apr 2006, 23:12
Yeah, but i donīt count it as a concert DVD itīs more like a documentary
:??:
Why? it's a 2 hour show, just a lot more intimate than usual with some stories thrown in. He did a whole tour with these shows.
I think we should also appreciate that Meat has only really released one single new studio album (CHSIB) since DVD sales have taken of. Unlike many artists who have cashed in on older concert releases at least Meat has provided us with two new live DVDs while the DVD format has been established and not forgetting two live cds which compliment these releases. If you had told me ten years ago Meat would be releasing a live show on a digital format that does not exist yet in 2004 with an orchestra performing all the Bat out of Hell tracks I would not have believed it! (I still don't believe I have this in my collection!)
With the release of the Blu Ray format this year I think it is safe to say we will see some wonderful stuff complimenting the Bat 3 release first on DVD and probably later on this new format. I think Meat has been very generous in releasing these live DVDs and doing these tours and the fact that more is on the horizon really excites me.
Lotus, which one you should get??? All of them of course!!!
DVDs
MSO
Storytellers
Bat out of hell Classic Albums DVD (includes Heaven can Wait live in Netherlands 1994).
Bat out of hell videos DVD
Videos: Bat 2 picture show, 1985 live show, 1981 live show
+ all the live cds
etc....etc..
:??:
Why? it's a 2 hour show, just a lot more intimate than usual with some stories thrown in. He did a whole tour with these shows.
I think we should also appreciate that Meat has only really released one single new studio album (CHSIB) since DVD sales have taken of. Unlike many artists who have cashed in on older concert releases at least Meat has provided us with two new live DVDs while the DVD format has been established and not forgetting two live cds which compliment these releases. If you had told me ten years ago Meat would be releasing a live show on a digital format that does not exist yet in 2004 with an orchestra performing all the Bat out of Hell tracks I would not have believed it! (I still don't believe I have this in my collection!)
With the release of the Blu Ray format this year I think it is safe to say we will see some wonderful stuff complimenting the Bat 3 release first on DVD and probably later on this new format. I think Meat has been very generous in releasing these live DVDs and doing these tours and the fact that more is on the horizon really excites me.
Lotus, which one you should get??? All of them of course!!!
DVDs
MSO
Storytellers
Bat out of hell Classic Albums DVD (includes Heaven can Wait live in Netherlands 1994).
Bat out of hell videos DVD
Videos: Bat 2 picture show, 1985 live show, 1981 live show
+ all the live cds
etc....etc..
I think it will be a while before we see anything like this on Blu-ray. This is a brand new media, which currently is having it's own problems, (manufacture, costs). Blu-ray will concentrate on films to start with along with PS3 games.
Possibly a DVD release of something, but Blu-ray material will be quite a while off yet.;)
PrissLoaf
20 Apr 2006, 00:01
*Excluding* MSO. We all know that's good.
Aside from MSO, what is the best concert of Meat's that has been released? Which is the one I absolutely MUST own on DVD?
Recommendations please! :D
I *heart* Storytellers. I've watched it countless times.
Although it's not on DVD I'd say the Bad Attitude tour video from 1985 rates up there amongst the best (ie close to the MSO DVD), not only is Meat in fine form, but I (along with a couple of other forum members) was in the crowd :))
RadioMaster
20 Apr 2006, 10:01
Iīd really like to see a live dvd/vhs/whatever of one of the early concerts of 77 or 78. Thatīd be great.
Thanks for all the answers, guys, and that is a winning argument for Bad Attitude, AndyK! :D
Which of those listed so far is the best rocker, the one that just goes off?
Actually, in the interests of forum tidiness this really belongs in TT&BH ...
I'd say it's a close call between the MSO and Bad Attitude for best rocker ... Bad Attitude is perhaps a more raw rock concert whereas the MSO is a much more polished performance.
Given MSO is excluded from the debate, that's one very firm vote Bad Attitude then.
Anyone objecting/having a different point of view? :-)
RadioMaster
20 Apr 2006, 10:40
does anyone know where i could get the BAVHS from? I looked for it at amazon. but they donīt got it.
Your best bet these days is Ebay ...
*Brief side note - If I want VHS from Ebay, is that like DVD and have to be designed for the local electronics, or whatever the hell it is that makes a difference?
RadioMaster
20 Apr 2006, 10:57
*Brief side note - If I want VHS from Ebay, is that like DVD and have to be designed for the local electronics, or whatever the hell it is that makes a difference?
The only technical difference could be between PAL and NTSC and... does SECAM still exist?
RadioMaster
20 Apr 2006, 11:00
Huh? :wtf:
didnīt you want to know that?
PAL and NTSC are indeed differing formats of VHS. The states runs on NTSC and the UK on PAL (not sure about down under at all). Having said that most modern VHS machines these days will play both formats.
I did, I'd just like to understand it.
PAL/NTSC is a menu option on my DVD player (which doesn't help with VHS) that makes no difference that I can see to my playback.
What does that have to do with VHS? And what is SECAM? Actually, is it even necessary I know that?
RadioMaster
20 Apr 2006, 11:46
PAL and NTSC are indeed differing formats of VHS. The states runs on NTSC and the UK on PAL (not sure about down under at all). Having said that most modern VHS machines these days will play both formats.
I CHSIB myself!
The only thing that iīd like to add is that most of the european countries run PAL, too.
My VRC just runs PAL cassettes, i cant play NTSC
And what is SECAM?
SECAM was once the VHS system that was used in france, but i havenīt heard of it a long time. I actually donīt know if still exists, thatswhy i asked.
Although it's not on DVD I'd say the Bad Attitude tour video from 1985 rates up there amongst the best (ie close to the MSO DVD), not only is Meat in fine form, but I (along with a couple of other forum members) was in the crowd :))
I hate some camera angles.
Meat looks and sounds fanfockingtastic.
I hate some camera angles.
You've got to remember that
a) it was recorded some 20+ years ago when camera, grip and editing technology wasn't as advanced as it is today.
and
b) Brixton Academy where it is filmed is a pig of a venue for setting up cameras, there are very few decent vantage points The concert was also filmed "live" over one night and not over two consecutive shows as per the MSO DVD. There was no second chance with shots on the Bad Attitude concert.
Yeah you are right. But I still hate some of it :mrgreen:
So, that's 2.7 votes for BA, and 0 for anything else.
Is SECAM like BETA?
And should I order fries with that?
You've got to remember that
a) it was recorded some 20+ years ago when camera, grip and editing technology wasn't as advanced as it is today.
and
b) Brixton Academy where it is filmed is a pig of a venue for setting up cameras, there are very few decent vantage points The concert was also filmed "live" over one night and not over two consecutive shows as per the MSO DVD. There was no second chance with shots on the Bad Attitude concert.
And what a fabulous occasion that was at Brixton, really had a raw edge. This concert recorded for release on video was attended by fan club members of yore and a guest (Still have my original letter and tickets), and as Andy states you had one shot and worked with that for the final video, to my mind it is a masterpiece........
And what a fabulous occasion that was at Brixton, really had a raw edge. This concert recorded for release on video was attended by fan club members of yore and a guest (Still have my original letter and tickets), and as Andy states you had one shot and worked with that for the final video, to my mind it is a masterpiece........
I would have loved to have been there. I have the show on VHS, it's awesome:D
SuperLoafMan
20 Apr 2006, 23:26
Must say I love Storyteller's, It really shows Meat as a real down to earth person who loves singing his amazing songs and interacting with his adoring fans.
I also love the Mexican Show ffrom CHSIB which i have got on DVD. It is a really good show!
3.7 votes for Bad Attitude (I have deducted 0.3 from Bart's vote), 1 for Storytellers and please don't mention Mexico.
Looks like Bad Attitude wins.
Now, if I get my paws on that from a foreign source, will it play in my VCR? Or will I need to confuse myself and put it onto DVD somehow?
I haven't made a post since giving my review of the MSO concert.
I have a look in once and a while.
I thought I would contribute here.
I have an officially released Beta of a Deadringer concert.
It has about 8 songs and is really cool.
When my wife lets me buy the hardware, I'll put it on dvd.
Enjoy your weekend
Stu
http://www.phishhook.com/lists/m_greythorne
Pudding
21 Apr 2006, 11:48
Live at the Rockpalast with Jim on piano. Although technically it hasn't been released, it was professionally recorded and is an excellent show.
There's actually not many options to choose from. I don't understand why Meat couldn't have at least a dozen plus DVD's out there by now.
Pud :twisted:
Wasn't the Rockpalast show part of the Bat promotion and not Deadringer?
There's actually not many options to choose from. I don't understand why Meat couldn't have at least a dozen plus DVD's out there by now.
Pud :twisted:
Tell me about it! :D
Another reason for this thread, aiming for some ideas on some I may have missed.
Pudding
21 Apr 2006, 13:02
Wasn't the Rockpalast show part of the Bat promotion and not Deadringer?
It certainly was.
Pud :twisted:
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