Patti has left the band

[Eva]

I got an email from Patti in which she asks me to give you all her message:

***

There has been a lot of talk and I've been getting quite a few emails so I think I should let you all know that I have left the band. Thanks so much for all of your love and support. It's been a wonderful ride!!!!!! Love and Laughter. Ciao for now. Pattixx

[RadioMaster]

Goodbye and good luck for everything you will do now.

Let´s hope that Meat finds somebody to replace her, although I doubt that this is possible.

[djfierce]

The best partner Meat has ever had in my opinion! I'm sure she will be sorely missed :(

[Ma.Ra]

Goodbye and good luck for everything you will do now.

Let´s hope that Meat finds somebody to replace her, although I doubt that this is possible.

No way! Honestly, I will not give any chance for the new duet partner.:evil:

[RadioMaster]

let´s stay fair.

Patti was great, but we should give the new girl, whoever it´ll be at least a chance.

[Ma.Ra]

let´s stay fair.

Patti was great, but we should give the new girl, whoever it´ll be at least a chance.

No way:twisted: Why that before the last tour that Meat will gonna do?:sherlock: I would really like to know the circumstances. I gonna crazy (in a negativ kins) if it is Marion...

[Chris]

No way:twisted: Why that before the last tour that Meat will gonna do?:sherlock: I would really like to know the circumstances. I gonna crazy (in a negativ kins) if it is Marion...

Be Fair Macrapper.

We don't know who the new member will be so we will not pre-judge.

[djfierce]

No way:twisted: Why that before the last tour that Meat will gonna do?:sherlock: I would really like to know the circumstances. I gonna crazy (in a negativ kins) if it is Marion...

I would've thought Marion has got her own career to think about.It certainly does seem to be a bad time and a bit sudden!

[MeatGrl1]

This has made me cry !!!

I :heart: this woman to bits she can't leave!

:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

Good luck Patti, I am so sad and upset about this!
I am crying like mad right now!

[Ankie]

Thanks from the bottom of my heart what you have done for us over the years, Patti!! And all my best wishes for the future!

[Nick]

Wow! I'm sure you will all agree, BUT THIS HIT ME LIKE A BAG OF BRICKS! I wish i knew why this happend..... She will be missed, but hopfully it will give another young talent the chance to get the spot light.

[loaferman61]

Wow! I'm sure you will all agree, BUT THIS HIT ME LIKE A BAG OF BRICKS! I wish i knew why this happend..... She will be missed, but hopfully it will give another young talent the chance to get the spot light.

I have seen it coming and am very saddened by it. I won't speculate here, I have theories but I would like to know the (true) details.

[meatloaf-unofficial]

Well, will she say bye to us at the show ????? why, why, why !! I feel so sad

[hayley]

Thanks for everything patti, you will be sadly missed!!!good luck for the future!!!

[Ankie]

I won't speculate here


Thanks, and we ask everyone to keep from doing that.

[mszee]

This is VERY sad and unexpected to me news considering that 2007 tour is supposedly coming up in just a few months.

I doubt very much Marion will the replacement since she doesn't have the right voice for every song that Meat sings and she is working on solo career.

Very sorry to hear the news, hope for a new great singer and good luck to Patti wherever she goes!!!

[Ageing Bat]

I'm gutted..... This news has taken the edge off my excitement before the RAH concert, and the release of Bat III.


Patti, if you're reading these messages, you will be sorely missed. I wish you all the very best for the future.

[Pudding]

To be honest I'm not totally surprised, a bit surprised by the timing, but not shocked over the news. Patti's a great talent in her own right and has been in Meats shadow for a long time.

I wish her well in whatever she does.

Pud :twisted:

[Leah]

Oooohhh i'm so upset by this news, I can't believe it. Patti was and is the best, the band will not be the same without her (even with another woman). Patti you'll be sorely missed :(
But you must have your reasons for this and so I wish you all the best for whatever you persue from now on.

[Guppie]

So sorry to see her go... she is such a great singer.

[Benny]

:(

[Chris]

Sad news but good luck for the future in whatever you decide to do.

(convincing them to do Notre Dame in London would be A Good Thing hint hint!!)

[Eva]

"wait a minute - so Eva can you ask her - why ????"

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I am sorry, but NO! I don't think that is our business!
If Patti or Meat wish to tell thats okay of course, but I won't ask!!
BTW: I didn't ask Patti anything, she wrote the email out of her own wish to me to let you all know that she left the band. :?
Love,
Eva

[Leah]

Thankyou for forwarding on the message to us Eva even though it brings sad news

[DIZZY DRUMMER]

Just got back off hols !


anyone ask WHY ?????

Patti was a gem - such an asset - WHY NOW !!!!!

[Benny]

Very sad news indeed:( All the best Patti...:( :(


http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/9407/pattifw7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[meatloaf-unofficial]

"wait a minute - so Eva can you ask her - why ????"

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I am sorry, but NO! I don't think that is our business!
If Patti or Meat wish to tell thats okay of course, but I won't ask!!
BTW: I didn't ask Patti anything, she wrote the email out of her own wish to me to let you all know that she left the band. :?
Love,
Eva

thanks for answering it:D She is the only one that will ever be able to support Meat on stage with the singing as she did. She has helped Meat alot and Id Do anything for Love - well, she did the very first live song and she made the duet bit hers, and no one ever will replace that !!!!!

[AnneV]

Patti,
Thank-you for the last 13 years! They were fantastic! So very sad to see you leave, maybe someday we will come to know why. Thanx for the many times you took time to stop and have a chat. I am so glad I was able to hear you perform in Notre Dame, We will rock you, & TSO. And of course through all the tours with Meat! I, along with many others, will miss you dearly! I think you have an amazing voice and wish you success and happiness in all that you do in the future!
AnneV

[SamCat]

So sorry to hear Patti is leaving Fabulous singer and a Fabulous person and now i have console a very devastated man who is not gonna take this well!!! All the best for the future XXX

[ChloeLee88]

I can only shadow what everyone else has said here...i'm really really sad to hear this...Patti and Meat were perfect stage partners! She won't be forgotten and i'll continue to support her in any other work she does!
And wow i feel sorry for the girl thats gonna replace her!
Chloe

[loaferman61]

Just got back off hols !


anyone ask WHY ?????

Patti was a gem - such an asset - WHY NOW !!!!!

The email is the only official comment thus far. I wouldn't expect much more beyond the usual things said in these situations.

[DazLoaf01]

Wow, I'm very suprised.... it's gonna be a huge task to find someone worthy or succeeding her. All the best Patti xx

[wizardofodd]

well that was strange was listening to what about love duet when i was reading the news, this is a sad shame cos i thought she was great. interesting to see the replacement, my only hope now is for her to make a last apearance at the royal albert hall and say goodbye!!!

[L96]

I'm so terribly sorry to hear this. Whatever Patti does next is bound to be good though, so will keep an eye out.

Meantime, Meat is looking for a replacement...

*L96 waves hand frantically... PICK ME, PICK ME!

[loaferman61]

well that was strange was listening to what about love duet when i was reading the news, this is a sad shame cos i thought she was great. interesting to see the replacement, my only hope now is for her to make a last apearance at the royal albert hall and say goodbye!!!

I may catch hell for saying this, but here goes. Someone will fill her spot but she will never be replaced IMO.

[sunneke]

patti i wish you all the best!!! so sorry to see you leaving right this moment, but its you're life, and you gotta do what you gotta do...



I'm sorry but i hope that cc is NOT replacing patti............

[AndrewG]

This is quite sad news indeed. :-(
Patti was a Rock in Meat's band. She got better as the years went on. Quite surprised she is chosing to leave now, just before the Bat 3 tour. She looked great at the Toms River Fest show and no doubt performed really well.
Quite ashame she will not be at RAH.

Maybe Meat could find Patti's replacement on the X factor. He would make an excellent guest judge! LOL

[Monstro]

I haven't felt like I've been hit so hard since me motorbike got written off!!

Like to thank Patti for some wonderful music and performances (NEC Birmingham best performance of Paradise I've seen!!).

Best way we can all say thanks is to support her in whatever she does next.

[mikeloaf]

I agree, Patti is a wonderful singer and performer and I wish her all the best. It is important that people do what is best for them.

[Lorraine]

So sorry to hear Patti is leaving Fabulous singer and a Fabulous person and now i have console a very devastated man who is not gonna take this well!!! All the best for the future XXX

Looks like we have the same problem - my hubby is distraught.

Anyway good luck in every thing you do Patti – we will all miss you much
XxXxX

[Jeanie]

I am so saddened by this news. :( :(

To quote Loaferman61 " someone will fill her space, but she will never be REPLACED". Patti was the best singing partner Meat has ever had.

All the best for the future Patti, wherever it takes you... Please know that you will be GREATLY MISSED.

And Thank You.. for all the enjoyment you have given us, over the last 13 yrs.

J. xo

[Bap]

This is terible news! If only she could have stuck it out until the end of the Bat3 tour!! :( But obvisouly there is more than meets the eye behind the scenes.. I do wish her all the luck and hope that maybe she'll reconsider!

[Bohemian]

Lorraine Crosby should put her hand up... that'd be freaking awesome.

B.

[PrissLoaf]

:shock: :(

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: I am DEVESTATED at this news :cry:

I only wish that Patti would at least have come along to say goodbye to us all at the RAH.

Patti, you've been a big part of what we have followed and loved for so long, and it hurts deeply that you could not have come along one last time to stand in the spotlight one last time, and let us show our appreciation.

This wounds me like a spear in my side :cry: :cry: :cry:

Please, PLEASE, come to RAH, and let us say goodbye properly :pray:

WE LOVE YOU PATTI :heart:

[Dick]

holy shit! wht can be said. this is bad. i will miss you patti. but i hope you go and find sucess like you deserve, your singing with meat has given me goosebumps many times. all the best!

Richard xx

[loaferman61]

( But obvisouly there is more than meets the eye behind the scenes.

CHSIBM

[TravisWRedfish]

What a shame. My wife and I became HUGE fans of Meat after we discovered Patti...We went on to realize that Patti was to Meat what Abbott was to Costello, what Laurel was to Hardy and what Martin was to Lewis. We were so looking forward to the Bat 3 tour. Now we learned their won't be any Patti on this tour. While we'll continue to support Meat by buying his CDs, this terrible news has ended our needs to watch Meat in concert, it'll never be the same for us. Good luck in the future, Meat, we love you, but the live concert experience will never be the same for us without Patti in the pitcture. We'll always remember last August when you played the Beacon and how great that chemistry between you and Patti was. Melbourne will always be your greatest concert, we'll keep watching it til our DVD explodes. Good luck to you both, Meat and Patti.

[L96]

Meat, seeing you're reading... can you shed any light on this for us please?

[Dick]

still cant get over it
gutted

[The Flying Mouse]

still cant get over it
gutted

fecking wounded :cry:

Haven't even got the heart to put :twisted: at the start of my post :cry:

[samurai7]

This is surely a black day. Indeed a sad day for all Meat Loaf fans :(

[RSG]

I loved Patti's part as much as Meat's, and I wish you best of your dreams and good luck :) You're an amazing woman, and you will forever be heard not only by my ears. And a site seen not by my eyes. Keeping your voice near as long as I'm lways alive.

[Blackkat13]

:shens: She won't say but it maybe cause they got Marion....maybe the 2 of them don't get along.....Sad thought 13 good years and know it's Bye Bye....She said before she would tour with Meat if she got the call....Why know? I can't see anyone other then Patti. I will miss seeing the clips of her and Meat horseing around on Paradise. Don't worry all it will come out in the end one day. I do agree with those who say they can't see anyone other then Patti. :boohoo:


Bye 4 Now
-Black


BTW Patti I wish you all the Luck in the world and hope you you have fun in whatever you do.....But remember alway look on the bright side of life you had 13 years of good memorys.

[DIZZY DRUMMER]

Patti you will be missed terribly - but good luck in whatever adventure you are on next.

Whoever Meat gets to take Patti's place will have to be exceptional. It won't be easy !!

[sunneke]

Well had a few hours to understand that Patti really left. I understand that after 13 years, she wants to go on. You cannot blame her for that! Afcourse i will mis her at RAH. She was so d.. good! The one that has to replace her, will have a real hard job to let us forget Patti. Personally i hope that she is not gonna be replaced at all. I cannot see CC or Marion Raven in her place. Nothing wrong about them, but they just are not good enough to sing and act like patti could imo.


Patti, i wish you all the best! And i am very said about the fact that we cannot say goodbye to you, and wish you the best at RAH. You derserve that! A mail is not enough to thank you! I hope that you change youre mind so that we can personally thank you also for the great years you have given us.

[ROSIE]

Good luck Patti with all you future plans. you will be missed. Not just as a wonderful performer but as a very gracious lady we met on several occasions and you were very generous with your time and attention. Memories I will treasure.

Good luck

Rosie

[Ma.Ra]

This is quite sad news indeed. :-(
Patti was a Rock in Meat's band. She got better as the years went on. Quite surprised she is chosing to leave now, just before the Bat 3 tour. She looked great at the Toms River Fest show and no doubt performed really well.
Quite ashame she will not be at RAH.

Maybe Meat could find Patti's replacement on the X factor. He would make an excellent guest judge! LOL

To be exactly, we do not know if it was her wish to leave the band.

What a shame. My wife and I became HUGE fans of Meat after we discovered Patti...We went on to realize that Patti was to Meat what Abbott was to Costello, what Laurel was to Hardy and what Martin was to Lewis. We were so looking forward to the Bat 3 tour. Now we learned their won't be any Patti on this tour. While we'll continue to support Meat by buying his CDs, this terrible news has ended our needs to watch Meat in concert, it'll never be the same for us. Good luck in the future, Meat, we love you, but the live concert experience will never be the same for us without Patti in the pitcture. We'll always remember last August when you played the Beacon and how great that chemistry between you and Patti was. Melbourne will always be your greatest concert, we'll keep watching it til our DVD explodes. Good luck to you both, Meat and Patti.

I am in the same mood.

[Eva]

I want to say thank you to Patti with this:

http://www.muenster.de/~meatloaf/icon_heart.gif (http://www.meatloaf-fanclub.de/videos/tomsriver/MOV02841.MPG)

Thank you for 13 wonderful years of love and joy!!
Eva

[Meataholic]

Thank you Patti for everything you have done over the last 13 years.
Wishing you the very best of luck for the future.
Heather x

[Leah]

Is there some way of making an online guestbook for us all to sign with our thoughts and send it to her? I'd really love her to know how much we appreciate and think of her. Does anyone else think this is a good idea??:??:

She is sorely missed and the live experience isn't going to be the same without her there :(
But I wish her all the best for future projects that she decides to undertake.

[amethyst]

Thank you Patti for 13 years of fantastic songs, live performances and concerts. All the very best for whatever you're planning to do next.

As someone said, they can get someone in to sing the songs but nobody will ever replace you.

:( :heart:

ames xx

[Mike Piercy]

"wait a minute - so Eva can you ask her - why ????"

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I am sorry, but NO! I don't think that is our business!
If Patti or Meat wish to tell thats okay of course, but I won't ask!!
BTW: I didn't ask Patti anything, she wrote the email out of her own wish to me to let you all know that she left the band. :?
Love,
Eva

I agree Eva ... however will you ask Patti to read all these messages please?

Personally I am totally devastated by this news. It is a disaster on the eve of a big promotion and subsequent tour. Not only is Patti by far the greatest singer and performer ever to grace the Neverland Express she was the perfect foil for Meat.

There will be a replacement but there can be no adequate replacement because you can't replace the best. Patti is without equal.

Patti has a special place in the heart of Meat's fans and always will. I never had the good fortune to be able to stop and talk to her but I did see her backstage at Sheffield on the CHSIB Tour and she was such a beautiful woman, said "hello" and I know from all the comments how kind she was to fans.

Whatever precipitated this will no doubt emerge at some point but I cannot conceive a tour without Patti ... terrible news.

How about a "bring back Patti" campaign?

:evil: :( :evil: :( :evil: :(

Good luck Patti in all you do ... we love you.

Mike

[Deb]

I'm 10000% for the bring back Patti campaign Mike :(

Deb

[Leah]

I'm 10000% for the bring back Patti campaign Mike :(

Deb

Me too!

[Eva]

I agree Eva ... however will you ask Patti to read all these messages please?



done

[Mike Piercy]

I'm 10000% for the bring back Patti campaign Mike :(

Deb


Only 10000% Deb?

BRING BACK PATTI
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[thinwhitesailor]

Patti you rock and you will be missed,
wishing you good luck with whatever you are planing, with the future and never stop rockin'

keep rockin always
Emma

[Deb]

Only 10000% Deb?

BRING BACK PATTI
:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I don't have enough zeros to say how much Mike :(

Words cannot describe how i'm feeling about this very sad news.

Deb

[Mike Piercy]

I don't have enough zeros to say how much Mike :(

Words cannot describe how i'm feeling about this very sad news.

Deb

We don't know yet whether this is a voluntary exit or an enforced one. I pray it is not the latter. I am so devastated and angry.

Having seen all tours since 1982 Patti is the greatest.

There should have be an official statement from Meat's management confirming why this has happened. Patti played the Summer gig at Tom's River so she was clearly part of the plan at that time.

What has changed since then? We should be told! Fans deserve an answer.

Please ... on all future postings on this topic sign off with .... BRING BACK PATTI.

Let's try to persuade who ever needs persuading to restore Patti to her rightful place.

Mike

BRING BACK PATTI

[krolok]

Its a very sad thing, after this long time she has appertain to Meat like milk in my coffee.

I wish her all good things on earth, and hope she will make her way.

Good luck Patti !

[Pudding]

Please ... on all future postings on this topic sign off with .... BRING BACK PATTI.

Let's try to persuade who ever needs persuading to restore Patti to her rightful place.

Why? Perhaps Patti is doing exactly what Patti wants to do...finally.

It's amazing me how selfish some people are, because they're certainly not thinking about what's in the best interest for Patti but more what's in the best interest for themselves.

Pud :twisted:

[Susi]

That's a good point, Pudding.

I think we should just respect Patti's decision. We don't have any right to demand from her - like some people here did - to do what might seem right to them (or to us). The only thing that really matters is that the decision is the right one for Patti and that SHE feels good about it!

Susi

[RadioMaster]

As much as we dont like what we´ve heard...life goes on! I know that nobody wants to hear that, but Meat will find another duet partner and maybe she´ll be great too. Who knows? Who could have thought of Patti when Karla sang, and now it´s the same. (I just assume that because when Karla sang i was about -10 to -5 years old)

Please dont kill me now! *hides*

[AndrewG]

To be exactly, we do not know if it was her wish to leave the band.


Who cares what the exact reasons are? Is that really our business? Does it make you love the music more or less?

I am so surprised that so many people on this board need to scrutinise everything so much.

Meat will go on without Patti. Patti will go on without Meat.

[Mike Piercy]

Why? Perhaps Patti is doing exactly what Patti wants to do...finally.

It's amazing me how selfish some people are, because they're certainly not thinking about what's in the best interest for Patti but more what's in the best interest for themselves.

Pud :twisted:

Perhaps she is ... I've never said anything other ... if you choose to read the posts carefully. I can assure you that Patti's best interests are certainly close to my heart. I feel if anyone deserves to succeed in a sea of pop mediocrity it is the wonderful Patti ... areal performer with a wonderful voice. If she is pursuing a solo career good luck Patti ... tell us if you are coming to the UK and we'll be there.

Mike
BRING BACK PATTI ... now

[Pudding]

I read the posts carefully, and what I'm reading is some people wanting a 'bring back Patti' campaign, which to me seems like a selfish request.

Pud :twisted:

[Mike Piercy]

I read the posts carefully, and what I'm reading is some people wanting a 'bring back Patti' campaign, which to me seems like a selfish request.

Pud :twisted:

So? Who are you to judge.

The timing of this is not good for promo ... why has no official announcement been made I wonder?

I want Patti to do what she wants to do ... I just hope it's her decision and she is to pursue a solo career, she deserves to get individual success.

But ... whatever people say it won't be the same without Patti, we'll still go to the tour but a major era for the band has passed.

Ignore Pud BRING BACK PATTI

Mike

[icecube]

Thanks Patti for those wonderful years! I hope you get the career you want and I hope that somehow we can be a part of that, whether you will be doing rockshows, musicals or something completely different! All the best,rock on!

Greetz Icecube

[andythemeatloafan]

Cant really believe shes left waaaaaaaaaa good luck Patti, i wish you all the success you can possibly have!! sends a big mwhaaaaaaaa to Patti

[mszee]

I just wish there was some kind of official word at this point...

[Eva]

I just wish there was some kind of official word at this point...

:shock: Isn't it official enough if Patti says that she left the band??? :shock:

[RadioMaster]

I just wish there was some kind of official word at this point...

yes, me too

[meatloaf-unofficial]

you never know - she might be leaving the band after the next tour - but just letting people know that she will be leaving but not just yet


I would really love and so would others if she could be on the tour for Bat 3 as it could well be the last ever tour that Meat will do ( I hope not though )


MY FINGERS ARE CROSSED !!

[MeatGrl1]

I wish Patti all the luck in the world.
I was very upset yesterday hearing the news for the first time but I will support her in whatever path she chooses, we cannot judge or force her decision otherwise, so I think the best we can do is show our love and support at this time, we do not know the circumstances or situation behind this and I think when the time is right we will be enlightened but until then we should just respect her wish to have left.
I would be liying if I said I wouldn't miss her because she has filled the space for thirteen years now, there are many reasons why she probably wanted to leave but I don't analize them because I do not know the full extent of this. I love you Patti, if you read this and I wish you all the joy, luck and success for the future.

Take Care and Keep Rockin'

XxX

[mszee]

:shock: Isn't it official enough if Patti says that she left the band??? :shock:

Eva, I am not at all saying that what you posted isn't true...please do not misunderstand me...

I am just saying that this kind of news is usually announced in a somewhat different manner...even RR people seem to be shocked and devastated right now...nobody knows about RAH...nobody knows about Broadway...nobody knows about upcoming tour...and everybody is wondering about the same thing...

And although we will probably never find out the real reason why she left and it is ok - I think as fans we do deserve to know a bit more and from more direct and official channels.

[Leah]

I wish Patti all the luck in the world.
I was very upset yesterday hearing the news for the first time but I will support her in whatever path she chooses, we cannot judge or force her decision otherwise, so I think the best we can do is show our love and support at this time, we do not know the circumstances or situation behind this and I think when the time is right we will be enlightened but until then we should just respect her wish to have left.
I would be liying if I said I wouldn't miss her because she has filled the space for thirteen years now, there are many reasons why she probably wanted to leave but I don't analize them because I do not know the full extent of this. I love you Patti, if you read this and I wish you all the joy, luck and success for the future.

Take Care and Keep Rockin'

XxX


Very well put MeatGrl1 :D I agree and wish Patti all the very best for the future.

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: My feelings on this now are that i'm upset, angry, and feeling let down.

I thought it was strange that Marion was given the "big" duet on Bat III while Patti was put a little further down the line.But Patti continued to work on the album, and she was at the NJ show, so although thinking it was strange, everything looked fine between them.

Now this?

At this time?

In 4 weeks and two days, Meat is gonna take on the RAH.
It's the only gig in the UK this year.

It's also looking to be, by far, the biggest congregation on mlukfc.

It's going to be a hell of an event.

How can a replacment for Patti be found at such short notice?

Can you imagine Marion Raven singing Paradise or Anything For Love? :wtf:

PLEASE GOD NO :pray:


We've suported Patti for thirteen years now.
She's been a BIG thing about being a Meat fan.

Now, after all those years, she leaves like this.

Nothing official, just an e mail to a fan saying "would you mind posting this?"

WE'VE BEEN DUMPED BY E MAIL :faint:

This just isn't right.

I don't know if Patti left, or Meat fired her, but I do know i'm angry at the person who took the decission that Patti would not be at RAH.


If it were annouced that this will be Patti's last show and she will be leaving the band after that, we'd at least have a chance to say goodbye, and she'd have a chance to say goodbye to us (assuming she gives a damn, because at the moment it looks like there is someone who doesn't).

If Patti joined us at the RAH, there would have been celebration.

A big send off in front of people who genuinly love her.

We could have accepted that a lot better.

To go like this is a disgrace :down:


Meat has said nothing on the issue, and people have pointed out that it's nothing to do with us why she left, but without some kind of explination, don't ask us to understand.


Meat, Patti, I don't know what's happened, but for Gods sake do what is right and let us say goodbye properly.

[Eva]

...nobody knows about RAH...nobody knows about Broadway...nobody knows about upcoming tour...

Sorry, but is it a Patti-tour or a Meat Loaf-tour ??

Of course we do know about RAH - we have even bought tickets!!

And I remember 1997: All of a sudden Steven Buslow left the band without ONE word....

Eva

[meatloaf-unofficial]

:twisted: My feelings on this now are that i'm upset, angry, and feeling let down.

I thought it was strange that Marion was given the "big" duet on Bat III while Patti was put a little further down the line.But Patti continued to work on the album, and she was at the NJ show, so although thinking it was strange, everything looked fine between them.

Now this?

At this time?

In 4 weeks and two days, Meat is gonna take on the RAH.
It's the only gig in the UK this year.

It's also looking to be, by far, the biggest congregation on mlukfc.

It's going to be a hell of an event.

How can a replacment for Patti be found at such short notice?

Can you imagine Marion Raven singing Paradise or Anything For Love? :wtf:

PLEASE GOD NO :pray:


We've suported Patti for thirteen years now.
She's been a BIG thing about being a Meat fan.

Now, after all those years, she leaves like this.

Nothing official, just an e mail to a fan saying "would you mind posting this?"

WE'VE BEEN DUMPED BY E MAIL :faint:

This just isn't right.

I don't know if Patti left, or Meat fired her, but I do know i'm angry at the person who took the decission that Patti would not be at RAH.


If it were annouced that this will be Patti's last show and she will be leaving the band after that, we'd at least have a chance to say goodbye, and she'd have a chance to say goodbye to us (assuming she gives a damn, because at the moment it looks like there is someone who doesn't).

If Patti joined us at the RAH, there would have been celebration.

A big send off in front of people who genuinly love her.

We could have accepted that a lot better.

To go like this is a disgrace :down:


Meat has said nothing on the issue, and people have pointed out that it's nothing to do with us why she left, but without some kind of explination, don't ask us to understand.


Meat, Patti, I don't know what's happened, but for Gods sake do what is right and let us say goodbye properly.


what a speak - I don't know what to say after reading it all.:O

[Susi]

:

We've suported Patti for thirteen years now.
She's been a BIG thing about being a Meat fan.

Now, after all those years, she leaves like this.

Nothing official, just an e mail to a fan saying "would you mind posting this?"

WE'VE BEEN DUMPED BY E MAIL :faint:

This just isn't right.



What you wrote sounds as if you think she owes us something - but she doesn't! She has given us such a lot of wonderful shows and memories. We should be grateful to her instead of blaming her!

[Mike Piercy]

:twisted: .......................................
I thought it was strange that Marion was given the "big" duet on Bat III while Patti was put a little further down the line.But Patti continued to work on the album, and she was at the NJ show, so although thinking it was strange, everything looked fine between them.

How can a replacment for Patti be found at such short notice?

We've suported Patti for thirteen years now.

She's been a BIG thing about being a Meat fan.

Now, after all those years, she leaves like this.

Nothing official, just an e mail to a fan saying "would you mind posting this?"

WE'VE BEEN DUMPED BY E MAIL :faint:

This just isn't right.

I don't know if Patti left, or Meat fired her, but I do know i'm angry at the person who took the decission that Patti would not be at RAH.

...................................................................... ......... Meat has said nothing on the issue, and people have pointed out that it's nothing to do with us why she left, but without some kind of explination, don't ask us to understand.

Meat, Patti, I don't know what's happened, but for Gods sake do what is right and let us say goodbye properly.

What worries me Mousie is that there is no official management line from Meat's side. You would have thought given Patti's significance and status in the band there would have been some announcement.

I would have thought if Patti's sole reason for leaving was to pursue a solo career she would have said. I don't see it as Patti dumping us ... there seems to be more to it given the brevity of her e-mail and the lack of response from anywhere else. I think Patti saw the speculation on this site arising from her not being seen at the rehearsals and tried to respond to the concerns some expressed. I have no doubt Patti has always considered the fans which is why everyone loved her and why we are all so upset.

My guess is they already have a replacement or temporary stand-in but however good that person is they won't be Patti ... I know an in-law of mine won't go to any future concert if Patti isn't there and he means it!

Interesting they sold all the tickets before this came up don't you think?

Can't get to the RAH but we'll see the tour ... but without Patti the impact on vocals won't be the same and that will unfortunately be noticeable. It's a pity 'cos I always viewed this as the last real significant tour with a chance to say goodbye to everyone in the band but now ...

Mike

BRING BACK PATTI

[mszee]

Sorry, but is it a Patti-tour or a Meat Loaf-tour ??

Of course we do know about RAH - we have even bought tickets!!

And I remember 1997: All of a sudden Steven Buslow left the band without ONE word....

Eva

This is somewhat strange comment to what I was trying to say...

Of course, it's Meat Loaf tour!

But Patti has been part of this for 13-14 years now. The BEST years in my opinion since BatI for Meat Loaf and his fans. To deny now her existence and the fact that in all these years she was absolutely fantastic and earned her own fan following among us - Loafers - is impossible.

You can't compare Patti's departure with that of Steven Buslow, I am sorry...

Yes, Albert Hall is going forward and people have tickets...but who is going to be lead female vocalist? That's the question...

[The Flying Mouse]

We should be grateful to her instead of blaming her!

:twisted: I don't know WHO I blame yet.

I don't know what happened.

I just know that this is no way for her to go.

Now wether it was Patti's decission, or if it was Meat's, that is another thing.

[Ma.Ra]

Who cares what the exact reasons are? Is that really our business? Does it make you love the music more or less?

I am so surprised that so many people on this board need to scrutinise everything so much.

Meat will go on without Patti. Patti will go on without Meat.

Yes for me, it makes a different. For example, after Tom Cruise turning to the ulimate scientology member, I don't watch his movies longer. (I really liked his movies, but after his appearances in the public:? )

If it was Pattis decision, I have to live with that and wish her all the best. If it was other circumstances, it changes some things.

Never mind, here something else: This is a "tribute footage" (http://www.myvideo.de/watch/130972) to Patti from mimi from the batland (sorry, I really have problems with "of" and "from", in German it is one word:oops: )

Great video!

[LostSoul]

@Patti
Break a leg! ;) You've been part of our lives, we'll never forget you. :cool:

@Eva
Thanx for the vid, how sweet... :ko: :heart:


Pat

[Eva]

You can't compare Patti's departure with that of Steven Buslow, I am sorry...

Yes, Albert Hall is going forward and people have tickets...but who is going to be lead female vocalist? That's the question...

Of course I can compare Patti's departure with that of Steven Buslow, he was many many years the musical director of the band and he had a HUGE bunch of fans as well!!

...and we will see and hear who is going to be the lead female vocalist in time, I am sure!!

Please do stop all this asking and complaining now! I think all this is new to Patti, to Meat and all the band members.
We should give them a little bit more time!!

Think about if you were Patti: Wouldn't all that asking and complaining hurt you??

Eva

[mszee]

What you wrote sounds as if you think she owes us something - but she doesn't! She has given us such a lot of wonderful shows and memories. We should be grateful to her instead of blaming her!

Nobody is blaming anybody...but EVERY artist owes something to their fans...because without their fans...don't know where they would be...

[Leah]

Patti was gracious and kind enough to send us all an email through Eva. She didn't have to do that but she did. I think we should respect Patti's desicion and if she or Meat want to tell us more then thats down to them to do so. Of course i'd love to know 'why' but until either one of them says why, we shouldn't really assume or speculate on the matter.
But the NLE will not be the same without her. :( Even my family who i've converted into Meat fans over the years are saddened by the news.
To many of us Patti is irreplaceable nomatter who takes over from her. She has forged her own fans throughout the years and I think she will always have a place in the heart of a Loafer :heart:

[mszee]

Mike Percy, I am sorry but I didn't understand your post - can you please explain?

[allrevvedup]

I agree with both Musicman and Pud

Steve Buslowe, Pat Thrall etc have all had their time in the Neverland Express and all gone on to different things. Why shouldn't Patti be any different, especially when she has the fantastic talent that she does. The way some are talking it's like someone has died.

It's been rumoured for ages about her doing an album, maybe finally she will be able to.

Good luck to her she deserves the success that she gets in the future.

[Mike Piercy]

A recent RVM magazine interview gave a very interesting version of how Buslowe and others left the band.

I just hope any parting was amicable in the Patti case.

[allrevvedup]

When it's a band with no 'Artist' and people leave then more of a fuss is made over it and rightly so because generally the success the band has acheived has been worked at together.

When it's an 'Artist' no one really notices that much about the line up other then the star performer (the one the fans really go to see)

I mean, Sheryl Crow was a backing singer/dancer for Michael Jackson on the BAD tour and there was no clamour, from his fans, for her to remain with his backing group whenever she left.

Sometimes performers can get complacent. I'm sure Ms Russo loves singing with Meat Loaf and the reaction that it brings, but at the same time singing the same songs 500 times, the same way, can make people want another challenge.

She'll survive, Meat Loaf will survive.

[MeatGrl1]

aWAsTOwIDd0

[Sapphire Lady]

Very sad to hear this news but wish Patti all the very best for her future projects.

[Gez]

I met Patti at the SECC and she was just fab!!

Such a talent on stage...........oh why:( :shock:

[sunneke]

Patti has left the band..... wondering who else???????????

[Leah]

What makes you think others have left?

[sunneke]

I don't know... patti has left, perhaps meat starts all over again??? just thinking, nothing heard, or seen somewhere!!! So NO rumour, just thinking!!!!!

[Leah]

Hey thats ok! I just wondered thats all :D
I still can't believe patti's left :(

[sunneke]

neither do i Leah, but knowing meat, he will find somebody who can do the job!!!! And Patti has been performing for such a long time with him, that it's difficult for us te see somebody else performing at RAH. But what ever happens at RAH .... as beeing a fan, i will be openminded to the new one! It's not fair and not done to say now: she will not be good enough! She won't be Patti, there's just one Patti!

[mszee]

Well, this is all that I wanted to say...sending e-mail "I've left the band" will call for all kinds of rumors and speculations...especially seeing how this is a fan forum and open for discussion.

I just wish that this kind of announcement was made in a more professional and informative way...AFTER things were thought through...maybe an official announcement...maybe saying farewell at Albert Hall...that's all...

At the end of the day I am not blaming anybody and wishing everybody lots of luck...

[sunneke]

i agree mszee, and i think that all the fans wish they could say goodbye to Patti in a more personal way. Thats i think the big shock to a lot of us.

[Mike Piercy]

Well, this is all that I wanted to say...sending e-mail "I've left the band" will call for all kinds of rumors and speculations...especially seeing how this is a fan forum and open for discussion.

I just wish that this kind of announcement was made in a more professional and informative way...AFTER things were thought through...maybe an official announcement...maybe saying farewell at Albert Hall...that's all...

At the end of the day I am not blaming anybody and wishing everybody lots of luck...

The rumours and speculation were rife before Patti's e-mail. Patti should not have had to do it but she was right to let us know ... as you say why was there no official comment? Professional announcements should be the work of the management involved and not Patti's responsibility. Maybe they were hoping everyone turned up to the RAH and realised then thereby reducing the fuss.

I'm very suspicious. Patti was relegated to a lesser song on the album.

I met a number of people on the last tour who felt Patti had carried many of the vocals. Whatever the view it will never be the same again.

Meat's Bat III song choice is perfect ....

"The future ain't what it used to be"

Mike

[Jayd]

In some ways I agree with Pud, and some others here. Sure Patti was good, really good, but Meat has had other singing partners in the past, and they have left also, life does go on. Maybe this wasn't geat timing, but if Meat didn't have anyone lined up for RAH, don't ya think he would have asked Patti to stay for at least that concert. People come and go all the time, this isn't anything new, and the reason for her leaving is personal, it could have come to some point in Patti's life, that she may want to settle down at home abit, not all this extensive, tiring touring. And an official announcement to us won't change anything either. This is a Meat Loaf album, and coming tour. The only people who really know Patti, are real Meat fans, alot of Joe public, just see her as the girl who Meat Loaf sings with, so an announcement means nothing really. Maybe she has decided it's time for her to spread her wings, and do her own thing.

All the best Patti, and good luck in the future.

[Dick]

thing is tho. singers and band members have come and gone. alot of them never really going on to anything overly major, they just kinda slip away. The fans and the public knew patti, but not as the girl Meat sings with. They knew her for her outstanding voice and talent. joe public will know when shes not there, if they cant see it they will hear it. i tell you. i think alot of public people will be shocked

[PrissLoaf]

I wish Patti all the luck in the world. I was very upset yesterday hearing the news for the first time but I will support her in whatever path she chooses,

I agree. Patti is a phenomenal talent. And I wish her only success and happiness. She deserves it.

But this still breaks my (selfish) heart.

Love you, Patti...xo

[LucyK!]

Obviously very sad news, but you guys have left me a little confused, I must say...

I truely don't understand this "who's to blame?!", "how could she do this to us?" attitude?? Patti's been amazing with Meat and it's gonna take one hell of a woman to step up to the mark, but at the end of the day it's a career move whether we like it or not - how many people get a job and stick with it until their dying day?! A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do, and this obviously is what's right for Patti at this time in her life.

Patti, thank you for an unforgettable 13 years and i wish you every happiness!

[Jayd]

thing is tho. singers and band members have come and gone. alot of them never really going on to anything overly major, they just kinda slip away. The fans and the public knew patti, but not as the girl Meat sings with. They knew her for her outstanding voice and talent. joe public will know when shes not there, if they cant see it they will hear it. i tell you. i think alot of public people will be shocked

But Joe Public don't really know her that well, because she hasn't really had the chance to shine on her own, and put that voice to really good use. You mention the name Patti Russo to a non Meat fan, they will go "who"?

Maybe she wants to do her own thing at last and now is the time to do it. :D

[PrissLoaf]

This is a "tribute footage" (http://www.myvideo.de/watch/130972) to Patti from mimi from the batland

thank you for the link :)

[Sue K]

Of course I can compare Patti's departure with that of Steven Buslow, he was many many years the musical director of the band and he had a HUGE bunch of fans as well!!

...and we will see and hear who is going to be the lead female vocalist in time, I am sure!!

Please do stop all this asking and complaining now! I think all this is new to Patti, to Meat and all the band members.
We should give them a little bit more time!!

Think about if you were Patti: Wouldn't all that asking and complaining hurt you??

Eva

didn't Pat Thrall leave without a word as well Eva?... the first NLE i knew was... Steve & Pat... i remember when my husband saw the new incarnation of NLE he asked even though he's far from a Meat fan.. "where's my boy?".. meaning Pat... he really liked him....

and i agree with you Eva.. this may be new for Meat and Patti and they may be discussing behind the scenes how to deal with it.. i see Meat's already been here today a couple times... and that's early in the morning whereEVER he is... East or West USA coast.. as i'm assuming he's back in the States... my other thought on it is... wasn't it announced that there would be special surprise guests at RAH...?.. here's hoping that it WILL be Patti... so she can be given the proper send off she deserves...

i can't for the life of me think who could fill her shoes.. she's magnificent and perfect playing off Meat... but... i trust in Meat.. so ... there ya go.. i'll wait and see how it all plays out...

best of luck to Patti... hope she'll release a cd... i think she's great...

t...

[R.]

I have to say that I'm a little bit irritated about the direction this thread is taking and Lucy's post below sums everything up pretty good for me:

Obviously very sad news, but you guys have left me a little confused, I must say...

I truely don't understand this "who's to blame?!", "how could she do this to us?" attitude?? Patti's been amazing with Meat and it's gonna take one hell of a woman to step up to the mark, but at the end of the day it's a career move whether we like it or not - how many people get a job and stick with it until their dying day?! A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do, and this obviously is what's right for Patti at this time in her life.

Patti, thank you for an unforgettable 13 years and i wish you every happiness!
For me it seems very wrong for anyone to be making assumptions, and no-one should be demanding official statements for something which, like it or not, is none of our business.

[RadioMaster]

neither do i Leah, but knowing meat, he will find somebody who can do the job!!!! And Patti has been performing for such a long time with him, that it's difficult for us te see somebody else performing at RAH. But what ever happens at RAH .... as beeing a fan, i will be openminded to the new one! It's not fair and not done to say now: she will not be good enough! She won't be Patti, there's just one Patti!

Well, this is all that I wanted to say...sending e-mail "I've left the band" will call for all kinds of rumors and speculations...especially seeing how this is a fan forum and open for discussion.

I just wish that this kind of announcement was made in a more professional and informative way...AFTER things were thought through...maybe an official announcement...maybe saying farewell at Albert Hall...that's all...

At the end of the day I am not blaming anybody and wishing everybody lots of luck...

But Joe Public don't really know her that well, because she hasn't really had the chance to shine on her own, and put that voice to really good use. You mention the name Patti Russo to a non Meat fan, they will go "who"?

Maybe she wants to do her own thing at last and now is the time to do it. :D

I agree. To all three comments.

[Alex]

It's a strange day, I never thought that Lucy would be the rolemodel for us all (love ya really! ;) ) - but that day has come! She says the truth!

I'll look forward to seeing what Patti's gets involved in and of course, who the 'next Patti' is. As she'll always be Meat's backing singer whom all others are compared with. :)

[TravisWRedfish]

Why? Perhaps Patti is doing exactly what Patti wants to do...finally.

It's amazing me how selfish some people are, because they're certainly not thinking about what's in the best interest for Patti but more what's in the best interest for themselves.

Pud :twisted:


I couldn't disagree more. I think most people who want Patti back are thinking of Meat Loaf without Patti Russo. I can't even begin to imagine how much this is going to affect the group, because with as big a fanbase as Patti Russo has gotten, I guarantee you once the news gets around, sales of Meat's concerts will fall off pretty drastically, as well as CD sales. If in fact this is a career move on Patti's part, then more power to her. She deserves a great future. However, someone at Meat's camp should've made a public statement stating how Patti has decided to move on. Perhaps this would've helped the fans in dealing with the issue that Patti will no longer be in the group. As it stands now alot of fans will be speculating on why Patti has actually decided to leave, and once the shock sets in, many may decide not to follow a Meat group that doesn't include Patti. I, for one, have already decided I no longer have a "need" to see Meat in concert...not without Patti anyway. The duets are just too big a part of the show, and Patti was his perfect partner, regardless of who is picked to replace her, the experience will never be the same...Like I said, Patti has a fanbase now and with her leaving, I'm sure alot of the fans will leave with her. The Meat Loaf experience will NEVER be the same without Patti Russo. Good luck Patti, and good luck to you too Meat...I know this won't be easy, especially with the Bat 3 release coming soon, followed by the Bat 3 tour. I really wish you both the best.

[TravisWRedfish]

Who cares what the exact reasons are? Is that really our business? Does it make you love the music more or less?

I am so surprised that so many people on this board need to scrutinise everything so much.

Meat will go on without Patti. Patti will go on without Meat.


Very true, however, many fans will go on without Meat as well...It's sad really. :(

[Sue K]

Very true, however, many fans will go on without Meat as well...It's sad really. :(


what's sad?.. that Meat fans will go on without Meat???... that WOULD be sad... for them... and rather unusual .. for .. well... Meat fans ! ...;) ... imo.. if you enjoy the music Meat sings... and seeing him in concert... you'll continue to buy the music and see the shows... right?

[TravisWRedfish]

But Joe Public don't really know her that well, because she hasn't really had the chance to shine on her own, and put that voice to really good use. You mention the name Patti Russo to a non Meat fan, they will go "who"?


And to those of us who RE-discovered Meat BECAUSE of Patti and found Patti to be just as important to the group as Meat (and I'm sure there are plenty of us here), the band called "Meat Loaf" has just played its final concert. Like I said before...it's sad. :(

[LucyK!]

Meat Loaf fans are not going to give up on him on the basis that is backing singer left

[LucyK!]

And to those of us who RE-discovered Meat BECAUSE of Patti and found Patti to be just as important to the group as Meat (and I'm sure there are plenty of us here), the band called "Meat Loaf" has just played its final concert. Like I said before...it's sad. :(

But the whole point is that "Meat Loaf" are not a band - it's Meat Loaf with the NLE, always has been

[TravisWRedfish]

Meat Loaf fans are not going to give up on him on the basis that is backing singer left

True, Meat has his fans, and the band have their fans too. I love Meat, but now is when I discover that it was the Meat experience I loved...the chemistry with Meat and Patti on the stage. No one, I repeat NO ONE can replace Patti when it comes to that experience. This is why I'll continue to listen to Meat Loaf, but have no interest in ever seeing another of his concerts. The "experience" is over for me.

[Jayd]

I couldn't disagree more. I think most people who want Patti back are thinking of Meat Loaf without Patti Russo. I can't even begin to imagine how much this is going to affect the group, because with as big a fanbase as Patti Russo has gotten, I guarantee you once the news gets around, sales of Meat's concerts will fall off pretty drastically, as well as CD sales. If in fact this is a career move on Patti's part, then more power to her. She deserves a great future. However, someone at Meat's camp should've made a public statement stating how Patti has decided to move on. Perhaps this would've helped the fans in dealing with the issue that Patti will no longer be in the group. As it stands now alot of fans will be speculating on why Patti has actually decided to leave, and once the shock sets in, many may decide not to follow a Meat group that doesn't include Patti. I, for one, have already decided I no longer have a "need" to see Meat in concert...not without Patti anyway. The duets are just too big a part of the show, and Patti was his perfect partner, regardless of who is picked to replace her, the experience will never be the same...Like I said, Patti has a fanbase now and with her leaving, I'm sure alot of the fans will leave with her. The Meat Loaf experience will NEVER be the same without Patti Russo. Good luck Patti, and good luck to you too Meat...I know this won't be easy, especially with the Bat 3 release coming soon, followed by the Bat 3 tour. I really wish you both the best.

So was you going to see a Patti Russo concert. And cd sales fall, WTH?????

People buy Meat albums because of the name on the front MEAT LOAF, Patti was only on Meat albums since 1993, backing on Bat 2, on a few tracks on WTTN and CHSIB. Was she on Bat 1, er no, on dead Ringer, erm, don't think so, and they sold by the bucketloads. It is sad she is gone, I am as gutted as the rest, but it's not the end of the world, or the end of Meat Loaf, and Meat's camp doesn't have to respond to anything related to Patti, it's Meat's managment, not Patti's.

[TravisWRedfish]

But the whole point is that "Meat Loaf" are not a band - it's Meat Loaf with the NLE, always has been

Case in point...When Meat first came on the scene, wasn't he great with Carla? Now, who remembers his road tour partner, I don't even know her name...the one who looked like Tim Curry?

[TravisWRedfish]

So was you going to see a Patti Russo concert. And cd sales fall, WTH?????

People buy Meat albums because of the name on the front MEAT LOAF, Patti was only on Meat albums since 1993, backing on Bat 2, on a few tracks on WTTN and CHSIB. Was she on Bat 1, er no, on dead Ringer, erm, don't think so, and they sold by the bucketloads. It is sad she is gone, I am as gutted as the rest, but it's not the end of the world, or the end of Meat Loaf, and Meat's camp doesn't have to respond to anything related to Patti, it's Meat's managment, not Patti's.

Not the end of the world, just the end of "meat Loaf" for me...I'm sure others agree with you and that's fine, I hope Meat continues on with a great career...it's just that for people like me who saw Meat and Patti and the chemistry they had together on stage, it's all over now. Life moves on...to those who are fans of Meat and Meat alone, you can all move on with him. Unlike many who feel Meat is nobody without Steinman, I've always felt Steinman's best contributions were in the past...Life without Steinman can continue because Meat will always have his past songs to sing, but life without Patti (to me) means no more Meat experience on the stage!

[fencingirl]

[QUOTE=TravisWRedfish;263482. I, for one, have already decided I no longer have a "need" to see Meat in concert...not without Patti anyway. The duets are just too big a part of the show, and Patti was his perfect partner, regardless of who is picked to replace her, the experience will never be the same...Like I said, Patti has a fanbase now and with her leaving, I'm sure alot of the fans will leave with her. The Meat Loaf experience will NEVER be the same without Patti Russo. Good luck Patti, and good luck to you too Meat...I know this won't be easy, especially with the Bat 3 release coming soon, followed by the Bat 3 tour. I really wish you both the best.[/QUOTE]


I totally agree! I will also leave with her! Without her the concerts are not the same! i hope she has the chance to make HER dreams come true!

[Jayd]

Not the end of the world, just the end of "meat Loaf" for me...I'm sure others agree with you and that's fine, I hope Meat continues on with a great career...it's just that for people like me who saw Meat and Patti and the chemistry they had together on stage, it's all over now. Life moves on...to those who are fans of Meat and Meat alone, you can all move on with him. Unlike many who feel Meat is nobody without Steinman, I've always felt Steinman's best contributions were in the past...Life without Steinman can continue because Meat will always have his past songs to sing, but life without Patti (to me) means no more Meat experience on the stage!

But Meat has always had the chemistry with all his female singing partners, even the Tim Curry looking one, and I am sure he will find another great singing partner. Just seeing Meat live, makes my night for me. :D

[Mike Piercy]

I couldn't disagree more. I think most people who want Patti back are thinking of Meat Loaf without Patti Russo. I can't even begin to imagine how much this is going to affect the group, because with as big a fanbase as Patti Russo has gotten, I guarantee you once the news gets around, sales of Meat's concerts will fall off pretty drastically, as well as CD sales. If in fact this is a career move on Patti's part, then more power to her. She deserves a great future. However, someone at Meat's camp should've made a public statement stating how Patti has decided to move on. Perhaps this would've helped the fans in dealing with the issue that Patti will no longer be in the group. As it stands now alot of fans will be speculating on why Patti has actually decided to leave, and once the shock sets in, many may decide not to follow a Meat group that doesn't include Patti. I, for one, have already decided I no longer have a "need" to see Meat in concert...not without Patti anyway. The duets are just too big a part of the show, and Patti was his perfect partner, regardless of who is picked to replace her, the experience will never be the same...Like I said, Patti has a fanbase now and with her leaving, I'm sure alot of the fans will leave with her. The Meat Loaf experience will NEVER be the same without Patti Russo. Good luck Patti, and good luck to you too Meat...I know this won't be easy, especially with the Bat 3 release coming soon, followed by the Bat 3 tour. I really wish you both the best.

An excellent summary. That's exactly why a statement is necessary. Sorry R. but why we shouldn't have a statement when Patti has been so much a part of building this incredible journey since Bat II. Fans do matter, this is a Fan Club and Patti is very much part of our Community because she is SPECIAL to us.

If it's to further her career then we wish her every success but heaven help the theatrical and vocal contribution to the show, I think a few people have underated how immense that contribution is.

No one is telling anyone what to do, the powers that be can refuse to say anything if they wish (probably will), that's their choice but they should know what people feel. It's stunning because of Patti's amazing contribution to Meat's concerts.

Mike

[PrissLoaf]

Meat Loaf fans are not going to give up on him on the basis that is backing singer left

I love Meat.

But Patti was a "duet partner", not a backup singer as such.

Concerts will continue to include "Paradise" and "Anything For Love", and Patti was integral to the live versions of those songs. A lesser partner will detract from Meat's performance. For such a little girl, Patti is leaving huge shoes to fill.

I wish them both continued success and happiness. But "no Patti" on stage will, for me, take away enough from the show that I cannot justify spending the $$$ for concert tx.

and that is not meant in any way as an insult to Meat.

...this is a Fan Club and Patti is very much part of our Community because she is SPECIAL to us.


CHSIB!

[LucyK!]

So, for those who are still Meat fans but are no longer seeing shows due to no Patti...are we not supporting, or at least giving a chance to, whoever steps in?

[Jen]

Damn...

All the best Patti.

[Sue K]

So, for those who are still Meat fans but are no longer seeing shows due to no Patti...are we not supporting, or at least giving a chance to, whoever steps in?


i know you're not addressing me Lucy as i'll continue to see Meat in concert... but.. i agree... it's not even known yet who will be Meat's new partner in Paradise... already some are not accepting... imo.. we're all in a bit of shock right now... and just expressing how we're feeling... as it begins to sink in... and fans go to see the RAH... and bring back reports and the like.. perhaps then...

imo.. Patti would wish luck to whomever it is filling her role in the band..

t...

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: I for one DO wish Pattis replacment all the best.

They have very big shoes to fill, and we owe it to them to give them a chance.

I imagine it's also pretty intimadating to take over from someone who has been a firm fan favourite for thirteen years.


I can handle Patti leaving the band.
She is a fantastic talent, and, as anyone who has met her will probably tell you, a warm and wonderful person.

Although i'm saddend to see her go, perhaps this will be a new start for her, and she can concentrate on her own career.

I hope she finds her own independent success.

What I don't like, is the way her leaving has been handled.

She's been with us for thirteen years.
Did nobody think that we would care?


I get the feeling that if it wasn't for the romour that started (which prompted Patti to send that e mail), we would have all turned up at the RAH fully expection to see Patti there.

Now I will not be selling my ticket.
I'm foremost a Meat Loaf fan, but i'm bitterly unhappy that Patti either couldn't or wouldn't come to say goodbye at a show we had all expected to see her at.

[sunneke]

selling my ticket? no way!!! i love meat loaf, and the the band! I'm sorry that patti has gone but life goes on! she's not dead!!!!!!!

[loaferman61]

What a shame. My wife and I became HUGE fans of Meat after we discovered Patti...We went on to realize that Patti was to Meat what Abbott was to Costello, what Laurel was to Hardy and what Martin was to Lewis. We were so looking forward to the Bat 3 tour. Now we learned their won't be any Patti on this tour. While we'll continue to support Meat by buying his CDs, this terrible news has ended our needs to watch Meat in concert, it'll never be the same for us. Good luck in the future, Meat, we love you, but the live concert experience will never be the same for us without Patti in the pitcture. We'll always remember last August when you played the Beacon and how great that chemistry between you and Patti was. Melbourne will always be your greatest concert, we'll keep watching it til our DVD explodes. Good luck to you both, Meat and Patti.

considering I usually have to travel 4 to 5 hours to the nearest Meat concerts it pretty much hurts my interest too. Just being honest, she was a big draw & it hurts to lose her. I don't blame her though, maybe she got some offer she couldn't pass up. I hope so.

[RadioMaster]

selling my ticket? no way!!! i love meat loaf, and the the band! I'm sorry that patti has gone but life goes on! she's not dead!!!!!!!

That post is for me the quintessence of the whole thing. Patti is gone, that´s a sad day, but Meat is still great and life goes on!
Hey, we should be happy anyway, we´ve got Bat3 and the RAH, at least me makes that happy :))

[Tim]

ow.... that just sucks big time... And that for the last tour and album. Very bad... but still.. .who knows what has happened and what will happen. It is her choice... to bad.. she knows what she is going to mis.

She was great.. will mis her! Good Luck patty

[TravisWRedfish]

It is her choice... to bad.. she knows what she is going to mis.

We don't know that it was her choice. No one has said why she's no longer in the band, but we do know that whether it was her choice or not, that has yet to be determined.

[AndrewG]

That post is for me the quintessence of the whole thing. Patti is gone, that´s a sad day, but Meat is still great and life goes on!
Hey, we should be happy anyway, we´ve got Bat3 and the RAH, at least me makes that happy :))

I thought you were not going to RAH? Are you now?

[RadioMaster]

No I´m not (I wish I was btw), but 1) i spoke in general and 2) I will see it on dvd later:))

[MissAsh]

Thank you for posting that Eva.
This has hit me like a ton of bricks to be honest. There are not many female vocallists whose voices I actually really like, but Patti is the exception to that. Plus, as I'm still so young, I don't really remember any of the other singers so much as I've grown up watching Patti on TV doing live performances and such with Meat.
I am very glad that I had the chance to see her live with Meat and the rest of the NLE in 2004. That wasn't just a concert, it was a SHOW, and one of the best I've ever seen. I loved the way they acted up together on stage and the sound of their voices together. It's a shame that I now won't get a chance to experience that again, but if it's for the best then so be it.

While I'm very sad that Patti has left, I'm first and foremost a Meat Loaf fan, and I will be supporting him whatever happens. All you people who are saying you'll give up now - well how nice of you, I can imagine Meat will be oh-so-happy to hear his so called 'fans' saying that.
Patti, if you're reading this, all the best for the future. Will miss seeing you with Meat, but I hope everything goes well for you and you are happy in whatever you're doing next.

[Meataholic]

Patti is a fantastic singer & a wonderful person. I am very, very sad to see her go:(

However, I'm a huge Meat Loaf fan & Patti leaving the band will not change my feelings towards Meat at all. My loyalty is 100% with Meat.

I have every faith in Meat's ability to choose his next 'leading lady' - there must be some other women out there who are amazing singers & have that special on stage spark with Meat, that spark we all long to see!

I imagine, that when Meat was first about to start working with Patti, fans were saying 'oh she won't live up to the ladies that Meat has sung with before.' And just look how it turned out!! So please let's give the new lady a chance.

Heather x

[razorball2002]

Of course you can compare it. Steve Buslowe was Meat's best bass player, he had a hell of a lot style on stage and was in my opinion a better musical director than Kasim. Eva is right. Nobody knows why Steve has left the band.
AND: Patti, i will miss you too, you were a hell of a good singer and performer and I'll never EVER forget Zurich 1994.

[QUOTE=mszee;263320]This is somewhat strange comment to what I was trying to say...

.

You can't compare Patti's departure with that of Steven Buslow, I am sorry...

[PrissLoaf]

imo.. Patti would wish luck to whomever it is filling her role in the band..


I'm sure she does. I do as well.

...Patti leaving the band will not change my feelings towards Meat at all.

me either, I love Meat.

...All you people who are saying you'll give up now - well how nice of you, I can imagine Meat will be oh-so-happy to hear his so called 'fans' saying that.

I'm not quite sure who said they were "giving up on Meat". I didn't, and I'm not. I have Bat 3 on pre-order, and will buy any new music he releases.

The concert issue, for me, comes down to personal preference. Tickets and travel are luxury items my budget rarely allows. I would rather treasure the memory of the show I was fortunate enough to see during the HOTD tour, than strain my budget for something that I personally would not enjoy as much.

It's the "end of an era". Just as those who saw Meat and Karla perform live together will always have a "special" memory that fans who saw only later concerts missed out on. Totally different "stage experiences". That is no disrespect to Meat, Karla, or Patti.

I hope the Bat 3 tour is a huge success for Meat.

I'll be looking forward to the photos and stories from the shows, as always.

[SuperLoafMan]

WTF!!!

I cant believe Patti has left the band!!! This is such a great sadness!! Such a fantastic musician and performer....she will be very grately missed!!

Good Luck Patti!!!

But like the saying goes the show must go on and I am sure Bat III tour is going to kick some ass!!! Rock on meat!

Ross :(

[loaferman61]

I'm sure she does.
The concert issue, for me, comes down to personal preference. Tickets and travel are luxury items my budget rarely allows. I would rather treasure the memory of the show I was fortunate enough to see during the HOTD tour, than strain my budget for something that I personally would not enjoy as much.


Agreed. She has been around so long and added so much. Like you I mean no slight to Meat or the other band members. But with cash tight for me, it honestly will affect my decision to travel 4-5 hours each way plus hotel, etc. It just does, maybe it is just me and maybe I just can't explain it to anyone else and that's fine. She was a valuable part of the experience to a lot of people. I have some questions I won't raise here, but a lot of us have them.

[L96]

I've been puzzling over the Patti situation for 24 hours now. It doesn't make sense. One of two things must have happened: either Patti chose to leave or she was told to leave. Now, no one with half a brain would fire the main singer (after Meat, obviously) 4 weeks before a major gig like RAH. So she must have quit. For whatever reason, be it personal reason or as a career move, I sincerely hope it works out for her and, like others here, will continue to follow Patti and her career closely, and wish her all the joy and success possible.

Based on the premise that Patti chose to leave, it appears to have been a sudden departure. If it was a planned departure, there would have been an official announcement made, logically, so that the current uproar was avoided. And I can't imagine Patti letting her fans down in the way she has, voluntarily. There's something fishy going on here. Also, Meat on the XM radio show... he gave no indication whatsoever that this was in the wind, so I'm thinking it might have been a surprise to him. I'm listening and relistening to his intro to What About Love, trying to pick up if there's anything there that indicates he knew. Sometimes I think there is, other listens it seems there isn't.

That said, rumour has been going strong for weeks that Patti was leaving. There is also a rumour about that Paul Crook is leaving as well. And there is also meant to be a NYC show for Bat Out Of Broadway... oddly, .net doesn't list that as a show. This is strange.

I'm all in favour of only telling people what they need to know, but there are times, and this is one of them, where a little more information is required. I (and the rest of us) appreciate that Eva passed on the email from Patti and let us know what was happening. An official statement from somewhere would assist greatly right now in reducing any potential negative impact on fans of Meat and Patti, and all.

Erm, seeing this post is so long, I'm charging 5c instead of 2c. :D

[MeatGrl1]

That said, rumour has been going strong for weeks that Patti was leaving. There is also a rumour about that Paul Crook is leaving as well.


OK I am still coming to terms with Patti leaving and now this...!
Will the heartbreak never end?

[AndrewG]

And there is also meant to be a NYC show for Bat Out Of Broadway... oddly, .net doesn't list that as a show. This is strange.


This does not mean anything IMO as the RAH concert only appeared on the tour list as soon as ticket sales were announced (RAH had been rumoured for about 2 months prior to that going back to an interview with Marion Raven in July). Therefore the NY show will probably only appear on there in the next few weeks.

[L96]

Why are you worrying about the NYC show? Thought you were going to RAH?

While there are some strange things going on, no one is dead (yet), so how about saving the OTT emotion until we know what's going on?

Edit to answer Musicman: Maybe it means nothing... I'm a crazed conspiracy theorist, though, remember :lol:

[TravisWRedfish]

You can't compare Patti's departure with that of Steven Buslow, I am sorry...

That's just preference. I can say you can't compare anyone leaving the group to Patti's departure because all Meat Loaf duets will never be the same again. Anyone can play an instrument and the average Joe won't notice someone else playing it, not true of a singer.

[Bohemian]

That's just preference.


Anyone can play an instrument and the average Joe won't notice someone else playing it, not true of a singer.



Ahhhhh.... yeeeaaaahhhh. :roll:

You know there are quite a few people that couldn't care less if it was Meat or Rob Evans or some other hired gun singing Jim's words with Marghoshes / Roy Bittan / Jeff Bova on the keys...

I'm looking forward to some fresh sounds with whichever vocalists Meat takes on tour with him on this occasion, and will keep track of what musical goodies Patti gets up to in future as well.

[rugby]

I can not believe Patti has left the band :(. She is so cool! Hearing Patti in the Comic Relief Concert on Radio 2 back in 1999, was what really made get in to Meat Loaf. And in 2003, when I actually got my parents to take me to a Meat Loaf concert, I couldn't believe how good she sang with Meat loaf. Unbelievable.
I wish Patti all the best for the future. Good Luck!
Rugby xx

[PanicLord]

Patti - sad to hear you're leaving, you've been absolutely fantastic. All the best for whatever you're going to do next.

You couldn't have sung it better.

Simon.

[Renegade Angel]

Very sad news, the best female singer meat has every worked with in my opinion.
Goodbye Patti, good luck with everything!

[Sue K]

Why are you worrying about the NYC show? Thought you were going to RAH?

While there are some strange things going on, no one is dead (yet), so how about saving the OTT emotion until we know what's going on?

Edit to answer Musicman: Maybe it means nothing... I'm a crazed conspiracy theorist, though, remember :lol:

i didn't see Musicman's post as his worrying nor over the top... just iho... what he thinks...

but i find your portion of post "no one is dead (yet)" rather other the top... no?... ;) ...

do not panic... do not jump ... ;) ...

[Sue K]

That's just preference. I can say you can't compare anyone leaving the group to Patti's departure because all Meat Loaf duets will never be the same again. Anyone can play an instrument and the average Joe won't notice someone else playing it, not true of a singer.


you know.. i got thinking about this.. and discussing it with my husband.. okay.. he was surfing the telly and i was telling him.. "something of no interest to you but...".. lol... let's see... Bat1... Ellen sings on Paradise... Karla does the tour... Bat2... Mrs Loud.. is it?.. is that Lorraine Crosby?.. sings AFL.. Patti does the tour... since Bat1 came out there's been about 5? different partners singing with Meat?.. i can't name them.. i just see them in old videos...

just thoughts.. yes we all love and admire Patti...she's a GREAT talent... but... imo...we must learn to live with and support the changes that come along ... i think just since Bat2 there's been three changes band-wise no?..

i don't know.. just.. thinking "aloud" if you will...

t...

[Jayd]

If you think of it this way, if Meat decided, that he wasn't going to tour anymore, you wouldn't have seen Patti perform anyway. Changes happen, it is sad, but it happens, Meat's band has gone through alot of changes in the years, and the only reamining member, to stick with him all these years is Kasim, and I don't think he has played on all of Meat's tours. :D

[JenniferSal]

John has been with him since the mid/late 80's, so has Mark (although Mark briefly left in 98 but came back). So there are other band members who have been in it for the long haul as well as Kasim. Kasim is, however, someone who has been around, off and on, since the beginning of the Bat though!

Jen S.

[Marianne]

How sad this news is, I must be greatfull that I had the chance to see such a great singer and person.

Patti thank you for everything you gave us. We will miss you but I wish you all the best for the future.

Marianne.

[Keep Rocking]

What a sad day:(

[PrissLoaf]

You know there are quite a few people that couldn't care less if it was Meat or Rob Evans or some other hired gun singing Jim's words with Marghoshes / Roy Bittan / Jeff Bova on the keys...


Meat fans care ;)

and there are millions of them/us. :cool:

this is not about "Patti VS. Meat", and should not be about "Meat VS. Steinman".

***

It doesn't have to be "either-or". I love Meat. I love Patti and am grateful for her contributions to the NLE over the years. I will miss her.

I am not saying that anyone should skip the Bat 3 tour because there will be a new "leading lady". For me, it makes a difference. For a lot of others, it won't. IMO it doesn't make anyone more or less of a Meat fan. Don't read things into my posts that aren't there.

Meat is awesome, and I hope everything connected with Bat 3 is a smash.

[PrissLoaf]

Patti...You couldn't have sung it better.

Simon.

WOW. I love that. :up:

[dottie]

Rosie and I've had the great pleasure of meeting Patti twice, once on Wembley Stage and at Blickling Hall, nothing was to much trouble, and Patti willing signed memorabilia and posed for photographs, and took the time to actually chat to us about everything and anything.

A lovely warm, caring, fantastic singer, we shall miss her greatly but I feel maybe Patti found it was her time to move on, I know from talking to her at the above venues that she had wished for a very long time to have the opportunity to be able to record her own album.

We'll be missing you Patti, please come and see us sometime on the forum

love dottie
xxx

[lorenzoduke]

Patti was a big, big part of the live Meat Loaf experience for me and most. I think its a huge shame that she couldn't stick around for this last jaunt, and that an extremely brief note is the only 'announcement' we get.

I think the old 'singers don't owe fans anything' is a non-argument. Fans are every bit as important as artists - without one, there can't be the other. Artists expect fans to treat them with courtesy - behave at concerts, respect their decisions, support their music. I hope we get the courtesy of an official announcement. Without one, all we've got is speculation.

That said, Patti will be sorely missed, particularly with the Bat 3 train getting set to roll. A beautiful counterpoint to Meat's singing.

What a huge shame to see her go.

[PrissLoaf]

...A lovely warm, caring, fantastic singer, we shall miss her greatly but I feel maybe Patti found it was her time to move on, I know from talking to her at the above venues that she had wished for a very long time to have the opportunity to be able to record her own album.


I hope so. She deserves the best. :cheers:

[RiverGhost]

WTF!!!

I cant believe Patti has left the band!!! This is such a great sadness!! Such a fantastic musician and performer....she will be very grately missed!!

Good Luck Patti!!!

But like the saying goes the show must go on and I am sure Bat III tour is going to kick some ass!!! Rock on meat!

Ross :(

Oh, come on!;)

[loaferman61]

I think the old 'singers don't owe fans anything' is a non-argument. Fans are every bit as important as artists - without one, there can't be the other. Artists expect fans to treat them with courtesy - behave at concerts, respect their decisions, support their music. I hope we get the courtesy of an official announcement. Without one, all we've got is speculation.


If they don't owe us anything, they can cry next time they make a bank deposit (cry to heaven or cry like hell) because fans are where the money comes from. That said, I see Patti has had her job filled in apparently record time if she left recently or maybe she just announced recently .

[Monstro]

Kind of amazing that most people seem to be going on about post 1993 and forgetting the previous twenty odd years that Meat's been around. Whilst I will miss Patti and her brilliant live performances it was Meat that I got into and will continue to follow.

We've got new singles, new album and a new world tour to look forward to, lets try to be positive folks.

[L96]

i didn't see Musicman's post as his worrying nor over the top... just iho... what he thinks...

but i find your portion of post "no one is dead (yet)" rather other the top... no?... ;) ...

do not panic... do not jump ... ;) ...


Erm, sorry, that lost in translation... the last sentence (the bit after "edit for Musicman") is the only part directed to the Loafer formerly known as Musicman, now AndrewG.

The prior bit that is allegedly OTT is a paraphrase/summary of previous comments in thsi thread that I feel have some merit.

And, dammit, I'll jump if I want to! :lol: ;)

[CarylB]

Kind of amazing that most people seem to be going on about post 1993 and forgetting the previous twenty odd years that Meat's been around. Whilst I will miss Patti and her brilliant live performances it was Meat that I got into and will continue to follow.

We've got new singles, new album and a new world tour to look forward to, lets try to be positive folks.

Amen to all of that!

Caryl

[AndyK]

Sad news ! :-( ... makes the shock of a Monday morning even worse.

Patti - I wish you well in whatever you do next, you've been an outstanding member of the NLE for the past 13 years! But you've also proved over that time that you're an artist in your own right ... Notre Dame and WWRY being two fine examples.

Whoever takes over has a hell of a job to do, but over the years I've learnt that Meat has this ability to find the most outstanding female backing singers ... Karla, Pamela, Kati, Doreen, Amy, Elaine, Patti, CC ... the list continues to grow.

[rick]

In kasim's blog update it say's that they have been auditioning for a month now ,so it seem's not to be a sudden decision.

Patti thanks for 13 brilliant year's as the foil to the big man and i hope you are sucsessfull in all that you do and achive and please dont be a stranger you will allways be a member of the meat family

whoever may follow they will have a hard job to do but we should all get behind them 100% ,it may be CC it may not but time moves on and so do band members it's a fact of life

thanks again patti (and for the kiss at chatsworth :oops: :oops: )

[rick]

OKAY SO IM A BIT BEHIND :
Been away for best part of a week

welcome aspen :-P :-P :-P

[Bohemian]

Meat fans care ;)

and there are millions of them/us. :cool:

this is not about "Patti VS. Meat", and should not be about "Meat VS. Steinman".





I haven't doubted any of that for a second.

I wasted no time in pointing out that that isn't the only conceivable point of vierw tho after someone claimed that it was.

So the relevance of this is?

[Sabine]

Dear Patti,

... thank you for the last 13 years. You was really great. I wish you all the best for the future.

Sabine
:(

[Caelan]

Patti,

thank you for the wonderful things and time you've given us.
I regret not seeing you back on stage with Meat and the band again.

but I wish you all the best for the future..

THANK YOU..
and keep rockin'

Christel

[vrg]

I see that I became one of the few privileged fans to see Patti’s last performance with Meat in NJ in July. That will now be a major distinction of that evening. And during Dead Ringer, Two Out of Three and Paradise, the Meat and Patti Show was going full steam with comedy and fabulous vocals, and it was a fitting end to her tenure with Meat.

Allow me to also extend my best wishes to you, Patti, for great success in whatever you do. You will be very much missed.

Virginia

[CarylB]

Whoever takes over has a hell of a job to do, but over the years I've learnt that Meat has this ability to find the most outstanding female backing singers ... Karla, Pamela, Kati, Doreen, Amy, Elaine, Patti, CC ... the list continues to grow.

Yes .. over the years I've had this unspoken agreement with Meat .. I buy a ticket and get myself to the venue .. he brings the band, arranges a setlist, delivers a performance that transports me for a few hours. This has worked perfect for over 25 years :)

I trust him, his decisions, his management of his tour, his choice to decide what to say and when ..
and as he's never done anything to erode that trust, he has it still.

Caryl

[djfierce]

Yes .. over the years I've had this unspoken agreement with Meat .. I buy a ticket and get myself to the venue .. he brings the band, arranges a setlist, delivers a performance that transports me for a few hours. This has worked perfect for over 25 years :)

I trust him, his decisions, his management of his tour, his choice to decide what to say and when ..
and as he's never done anything to erode that trust, he has it still.

Caryl


Wow, that said it all for me!! i'm sure we will see a hell of a show still at RAH and wherever we see him during the tour! :D

[Kathy]

Onstage emotions were running very high at Toms River in July, and the
love and caring that Meat and Patti feel for each other was so strong
it washed over us in the audience... I'll never forget it. Leaving the
band must have been a very hard decision. Now we owe it to Patti to
unconditionally wish her well (which I do with all my heart), and we
owe it to Meat to trust him to give us a fantastic show, just like he
has always done!!

I remember feeling guilty after seeing my first show, because my eyes
had been glued fast to Meat the whole time, even though I was aware he
was surrounded by a very talented band. And I should have felt guilty!
- not only because the NLE deserved my recognition from the start, but
because it was Meat's show! He puts on an absolutely unique show
(the word "concert" doesn't even come close) and he has always been the
creative driving force behind it. The show has always been HIS baby.
He finds the best people, helps them to give their very best, and works
with them for countless hours to put together something we'll love. He
dreams up theater to go with the music, and in his hands we rock, we
laugh, we feel joy and we get turned on. He loses sleep constantly
improving the show, and keeping it fresh time after time.

So although it may sound contradictory, I am both very, very sorry that
Patti has left the band but am looking forward to RAH and NYC and any
2007 shows I can make with no less anticipation than before! (which is
a LOT, in case there's any doubt, lol!)
-Kathy

[wenners]

im not writing this to wind anyone up but i honestly dont understand the hype over all of this.

Meat loaf is a solo artist he created the Neverland Express to back him up at concerts there have been many members of this over the years. A lot of very credible artists have come and gone. Some have even returned. Not all of them have participated in the recording of albums when they were members of NE some have, some haven't,

At the end of the day backing singers come and go. there have been many great ones over the years. But they leave for one reason and that is because they want to be a star in there own right. you were never going to see a Meat loaf album with the words featuring Patti Russo on the cover.

Patti has been around a lot longer than most and has dueted on some great songs and now is the time for her to spread her wings and see what she can achieve on her own and for that i wish her good luck. But its hardly worth getting so emotional over.

[Sue K]

im not writing this to wind anyone up but i honestly dont understand the hype over all of this.

Meat loaf is a solo artist he created the Neverland Express to back him up at concerts there have been many members of this over the years. A lot of very credible artists have come and gone. Some have even returned. Not all of them have participated in the recording of albums when they were members of NE some have, some haven't,

At the end of the day backing singers come and go. there have been many great ones over the years. But they leave for one reason and that is because they want to be a star in there own right. you were never going to see a Meat loaf album with the words featuring Patti Russo on the cover.

Patti has been around a lot longer than most and has dueted on some great songs and now is the time for her to spread her wings and see what she can achieve on her own and for that i wish her good luck. But its hardly worth getting so emotional over.

welllll...hehehe... i guess i'll speak for myself... i AM an emotional person.. after all... i'm a Meat fan... ;) ...

t...

[MeatGrl1]

im not writing this to wind anyone up but i honestly dont understand the hype over all of this.

Meat loaf is a solo artist he created the Neverland Express to back him up at concerts there have been many members of this over the years. A lot of very credible artists have come and gone. Some have even returned. Not all of them have participated in the recording of albums when they were members of NE some have, some haven't,

At the end of the day backing singers come and go. there have been many great ones over the years. But they leave for one reason and that is because they want to be a star in there own right. you were never going to see a Meat loaf album with the words featuring Patti Russo on the cover.

Patti has been around a lot longer than most and has dueted on some great songs and now is the time for her to spread her wings and see what she can achieve on her own and for that i wish her good luck. But its hardly worth getting so emotional over.


I respect this as your opinion but infact Patti has had more impact than the other leads and she has infact had her name on several singles and album duets during the course of her thirteen years,
* I'd Lie For You (And That's The Truth)
* Is Nothing Sacred Anymore
* Couldn't Have Said It Better
* A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste

To name but a few. Personally she has touched us alot more because she has always been there and now she isn't and you have to understand that she has been with us for thirteen years, of course it's emotional! But I also respect this is mabe the time to cut it and to establish who she is though we still do not know the true story behind her departure but I stick with what I said prior that we will know when the time is right but right now let's just wish Patti all the joy, luck and happiness in the world and show our support.

[dukesofhazard]

Sad news indeed that Patti has left the band, from what I've heard of Meat's previous supporting vocalists Patti was by far the best.

I've seen Meat live 6 times in the last 7 years (it'll be 7 in 7 this year), so Patti is all I've known when seeing him live, but as saddened as I am with Patti's departure I'm not going to deprive myself of seeing Meat for possibly the last chances I'm going to get. And although it will be different without Patti there, different is not always bad and I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing what Aspen brings to the group.

No offense intended to those of you who swear you will never see Meat live again because Patti isn't there, (like I've said she's all I've known when I've seen Meat) but surely you can at least give her replacement (for want of a better word) a chance - how will you know what 'the experience' is now like if you don't go and experience it? People still went to see Queen without Freddie Mercury for heaven's sake! I did expecting it to be rubbish, but was thoroughly impressed with Paul Rogers. In fact people went to see Queen with Patti singing too now I think of it and she did well too.

At the end of the day though it's up to you what you want to do.

Best of luck to Patti though in everything that she does - maybe she can get herself on Queen's new album too.

[Moonlight shadow]

Patty...:(
A big piece of the band left us.... without you.
sadness in my heart is how I feel now.
I can't imagine lives perfomances without your voice and presence.
God Bless You!!
You are the best!!:-P

[Kathy]

- how will you know what 'the experience' is now like if you don't go and experience it?

Exactly right!
-Kathy

[PrissLoaf]

over the years I've had this unspoken agreement with Meat .. I buy a ticket and get myself to the venue .. he brings the band, arranges a setlist, delivers a performance that transports me for a few hours. This has worked perfect for over 25 years :)


and that's wonderful for you. Sincerely.

But the reality is, the great majority of Meat fans aren't able to see him perform in-person dozens of times.

It was going to be tough for me to see a Bat 3 show. With the recent changes, it's no longer worth it.

...No offense intended to those of you who swear you will never see Meat live again because Patti isn't there...but surely you can at least give her replacement (for want of a better word) a chance - how will you know what 'the experience' is now like if you don't go and experience it?

No offense taken...by me, anyway! ;)

I simply have no interest in what 'the experience' has become. Marion Raven and Aspen are not my cup of tea. I'm not going to spend money to see either of them perform. I'll be content with the memory of the HOTD show I attended. What I don't understand is the attitude from some (not you, dukes) that I don't have the right to make that choice.

I hope everyone who wants to see the Bat 3 tour is able to do so.

[Bohemian]

What I don't understand is the attitude from some (not you, dukes) that I don't have the right to make that choice.

I hope everyone who wants to see the Bat 3 tour is able to do so.



I completely agree.

It's just ignorant to not be able to appreciate that different aspect of a musical performance will mean different things to different people. If someone went to see a Meat concert as much for Patti and as much for the theatrical relationship between meat and patti then Marion is really gonna put a dampener on the evening for them.

If someone goes along to see kasim all night, replacing him would disappoint.

And it works conversely too; I dunno if I'd buy a ticket to see Meat if tickets for an Aussie concert went on today... but if Todd was on lead guitar or jimmy on the keys then hell f*cking yeah would I be there, it'd make parting with the cash just that little bit easier.

[Bohemian]

I respect this as your opinion but infact Patti has had more impact than the other leads and she has infact had her name on several singles and album duets during the course of her thirteen years,

* A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste





Not only does Patti not sing with meat on A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste, Bonnie Tyler (who DOES sing with Meat on A Kiss Is A terrible Thing To Waste) doesn't sound a single thing like Patti, and never will.

[sunneke]

There is one Patti.... nobody will sound and act like Patti, but i still think that it is not fair to say that Aspen can not be good. you don't know that! We have to wait and see. So RAH will be really interesting, new cd, new singer, new bandmember. I'm going with a open mind and let it happen, i hope everybody can do that!

Patti, it was a great ride with you! thank you so much for 14 years! Whatever you choose to do, i hope it will be a succes! Please let us know how and what you are doing, you are special to us!

[needmoremeat]

Good luck in whatever you do, Patti!!!
YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[LesleyM]

This is really bad news, Patti has been such an important part of the package for so long now it is going to be a difficult act for anyone to follow - but I am sure there are plenty waiting for the chance ! I have to admit I have felt for some time that she has been a little in the shadow of the big man and has the voice and personality to be something big in her own right.

At the risk of being controversial I don't think that CC could step up to this, her voice does not have the range that Patti has and I am not sure the chemistry is there.

Let's wait and see who takes the 'Hot Spot' at the RAH next month and make judgement after that !

[Jaymze]

Does anyone know why Patti's leaving the band? First I've heard, it's a shame, Patti's been the best female vocalist to sing with Meat and her voice is so powerful.

[MeatGrl1]

Does anyone know why Patti's leaving the band? First I've heard, it's a shame, Patti's been the best female vocalist to sing with Meat and her voice is so powerful.

Like I said prior we will know when the time is right but for now we shouldn't be asking questions and just wish Patti all the love, support, joy and happiness in whatever endeavours she takes on next.

XxX

[R.]

Threads merged, unfortunately the thread redirect in General Messages got borked. :shrug:

[Deb]

What I don't understand is the attitude from some (not you, dukes) that I don't have the right to make that choice.

I hope everyone who wants to see the Bat 3 tour is able to do so.

I agree with the agree with what you're saying here. I think this has really shown there are so many different kinds of fans. We're not all in it for the same reasons either. Thank god lol, or the world would be a very boring place :D It's good that some are in it for their love of Meat, others for the music, others for a band member, others for Jim. The list goes on. I can totally understand how for some of you Patti going will mean you wont attend anymore if she is what made the whole package / experience for you. As Bohemian said, some only go to see a band member anyway. I started off going as a Kasim fan and now I am a fan of the whole band, and much to MMP's amazement i'm now a huge fan of Meat lol. But to me the band are a huge part of the show and the package for me. Patti leaving has taken a huge part of the excitement away. But Aspen joining has eased the blow a lot. That said if it was John that was leaving there is no drummer on this earth that would soften the blow :twisted:

I see this thread as tons of people grieving and all in their own ways. Each to there own way of dealing with it ;)

Deb

[MeatGrl1]

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[Mick Loaf]

Sad news and I wish her the best of luck.

[Cpl Mickey]

:( Wow shows how long it is since i have been on here. What a blow about Patti. My husband was upset, he really liked her. Patti I wish you well in everything you do. May God watch over you and your family

[chrissylf22]

I'm sorry to see her go but i wish her luck in the future

[michael.c]

:( look after your self, p , and stay in the music buisness.

a bit early to speculate but the return of kati mac or the goff sisters would be nice. whoever she is , lets wish her the best of luck.

[The Evolution]

Patti, all the very best huni, over the last few 14 years you have given us so many beautiful memories which we will treasure always. I wish you all the luck and happiness in the world.

Luv ya Sweet

Craig

[mark999]

I can't say anything that hasn't been said already, Patti was the best.
All of us will miss her, none more than Meat himself.
The show will go on it won't be the same, but meat only works with the best of the best and we can trust him choose the right artist to fill the void.

Good luck for the future Patti and never stop Rockin.

Mark

[meatloaf-unofficial]

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a;; I get is a blank sqaure - what is it ??

[ChoccyBat]

Whatever people's opinions, the facts are that Meat is not a solo artists! Meat Loaf is a band, and that encompasses a female vocal - the songs demand it. I will seriously reconsider attending any Bat III concerts now, and that is a massive thing for me cos I have been desperate to go to as many concerts as possible in the past, five so far in 2 tours.

My abiding memory of Patti is front row at Newcastle Telewest in Jan 2005, in CHSIB. As on the Melbourne DVD it was truly amazing, and at one point with Meat at the other end of the stage she turned and looked at me just as she sang the line "this is the moment we've been waiting for" - for a few seconds it was like we were singing to each other. Truly incredible.

Meat may have had other female leads but nobody can replace Patti. As I have said I am a HUGE Meat fan, and yes I only learnt about Patti through him, but if I had been her employer for so long I would have issued a heartfelt thanks for her contribution and a good luck message - haven't seen one? :roll: Lets not be blind, Meat is not God, something has happened, and if not why hasn't he done this? We all know she has been carrying his vocals for a while now (see the aformentioned DVD), and during the last tour I knew a few people who saw Meat Loaf for the first time, and came away saying "his female vocalist is really good!".

Like everyone else I wish patti all the best, she was fantastic, and still is of course. I await with interest the news of the RAH show before I consider buying tickets for the tour.

[CarylB]

Whatever people's opinions, the facts are that Meat is not a solo artists! Meat Loaf is a band, and that encompasses a female vocal - the songs demand it. .

Meat Loaf appears WITH a band .. the Neverland Express, but Meat is an individual with a career which includes recording, performing on tour and in flims. Most of the songs songs demand backing singers, and some, but by no means all, demand a female vocal in duet.

[QUOTE=Meat may have had other female leads but nobody can replace Patti. [/QUOTE]

I think it's a shame that people keep referring to "replacing" Patti. No-one will do that .. but Aspen will succeed her, just as she succeeded Meat's previous singing partner, and that one did the one before. It's what ensures continuity. Meat has performed with a number of talented singers. Patti was marvellous, and will be missed. But Meat Loaf is Meat Loaf, and has been performing in concerts for 26 years, and with the Neverland Express will continue.

I'm sorry that anyone should doubt whether they want to attend a concert of Meat's in the future .. I'm looking forward to my next one as much as I ever have since BOOH, and I look forward to seeing Aspen's performance.

And this is a Meat Loaf website. The vast majority of us here are Meat Loaf fans. And Meat is the one who could not be replaced imo.

Caryl

[Pudding]

Since when did Meat Loaf become a band? that must have been on a memo that I missed :nuts:
I'm not replying to Caryl btw, but the one above her, who has a name that sounds like a Cambodian delicacy

Pud :twisted:

[The Evolution]

I genuinely believe Meat has made the biggest mistake by letting Patti go.

I just hope it doesnt come back to haunt him.

[Mike Piercy]

I genuinely believe Meat has made the biggest mistake by letting Patti go.

I just hope it doesnt come back to haunt him.

I agree it's very difficult to comprehend.

On the "Hair of the Dog Tour" Meat called the Neverland Express "the greatest rock n' roll band in the world" and I guess as fans we'd all buy in to that.

In the past Meat's been quoted as saying:

"This wonderful woman is absolutely unbelievable"
and
"I just wouldn't be able to do it without her"

Yet there is still no official acknowledgement that Patti has left and no "thank you" for all she's done to make the man and his music such a success since 1993. I personally find that surprising.

Equally we may guess the NE line-up but we still don't know it for a fact.

Now don't misunderstand me, when the tour comes I'll be there with tickets for as many shows as I can get to and willing everyone on to do well and just as enthusiastic as ever to see the show.

I wouldn't want anyone to deride Aspen Miller (assuming she really is the person who succeeds Patti), I'm sure she will be a first rate singer given her WWRY background. But ... I do have something of a problem with the age difference and thus the stage credibility of some potential duets but we'll see how that pans out.

Would she really do "that" with a 59 year old "sex god"? It may be acting but does it look credible? I'm not sure.

So to reflect ... at some stage can someone officially please give Patti some recognition for her amazing performances for 13 years? Or is that too much to ask for the greatest female singer Meat has had in his band?

See you on tour!

Mike

[ROSIE]

ditto


Rosie

[CarylB]

In the past Meat's been quoted as saying:

"This wonderful woman is absolutely unbelievable"
and
"I just wouldn't be able to do it without her"

And I'm sure he was sincere .. but Patti has chosen to move on, and Meat has a tour to do, and I trust him to continue to provide the usual thrilling performance he always done, without exception imo, since 1978

Yet there is still no official acknowledgement that Patti has left and no "thank you" for all she's done to make the man and his music such a success since 1993. I personally find that surprising.

Equally we may guess the NE line-up but we still don't know it for a fact.

Kasim has confirmed the rest of the band will be playing with the addition of a saxophone player. He has also confirmed Aspen has been recruited as Patti's successor, as has Meat

Now don't misunderstand me, when the tour comes I'll be there with tickets for as many shows as I can get to and willing everyone on to do well and just as enthusiastic as ever to see the show.

I wouldn't want anyone to deride Aspen Miller (assuming she really is the person who succeeds Patti), I'm sure she will be a first rate singer given her WWRY background. But ... I do have something of a problem with the age difference and thus the stage credibility of some potential duets but we'll see how that pans out.

Would she really do "that" with a 59 year old "sex god"? It may be acting but does it look credible? I'm not sure.

She's hardly an ingenue .. and if Meat believes his set will work with the two of them acting, that's good enough for me. I sense he was quite irritated, and imo rightly so, that people were questioning this

So to reflect ... at some stage can someone officially please give Patti some recognition for her amazing performances for 13 years? Or is that too much to ask for the greatest female singer Meat has had in his band?

Just a thought .. perhaps if you feel strongly about this (and it does seem to me that you are being critical) it would be most courteously addressed with Meat directly and privately than in a public forum? Or with his management if you're not suggesting Meat should make a public annoncement

See you on tour!

Mike

Caryl

[Mike Piercy]

Originally Posted by Mike Piercy in white ][COLOR="Black"]black, responded to by Caryl in red and further response from Mike in blue

In the past Meat's been quoted as saying:
"This wonderful woman is absolutely unbelievable"
and
"I just wouldn't be able to do it without her"
And I'm sure he was sincere .. but Patti has chosen to move on, and Meat has a tour to do, and I trust him to continue to provide the usual thrilling performance he always done, without exception imo, since 1978

Obviously Caryl you know more than me since you say “Patti has chosen to move on”. The fact is we don’t know(or most of us don’t). I agree with you that the concerts are always thrilling, never said they were not..

Yet there is still no official acknowledgement that Patti has left and no "thank you" for all she's done to make the man and his music such a success since 1993. I personally find that surprising.Equally we may guess the NE line-up but we still don't know it for a fact.

Kasim has confirmed the rest of the band will be playing with the addition of a saxophone player. He has also confirmed Aspen has been recruited as Patti's successor, as has Meat

Is that “official”? This topic is “Patti has left the band” It’s about who left … I just wonder why Patti has not been acknowledged for her contribution officially.



[COLOR="white"]I wouldn't want anyone to deride Aspen Miller (assuming she really is the person who succeeds Patti), I'm sure she will be a first rate singer given her WWRY background. But ... I do have something of a problem with the age difference and thus the stage credibility of some potential duets but we'll see how that pans out.

Would she really do "that" with a 59 year old "sex god"? It may be acting but does it look credible? I'm not sure.

She's hardly an ingenue .. and if Meat believes his set will work with the two of them acting, that's good enough for me. I sense he was quite irritated, and imo rightly so, that people were questioning this

People have a nasty habit of questioning these days … even you Caryl, … and they have a right to do so, free country. It’s all about opinions and I ought to point out I’m 59 so I’m not criticising his age – 1947 was a good year!

So to reflect ... at some stage can someone officially please give Patti some recognition for her amazing performances for 13 years? Or is that too much to ask for the greatest female singer Meat has had in his band?

Just a thought .. perhaps if you feel strongly about this (and it does seem to me that you are being critical) it would be most courteously addressed with Meat directly and privately than in a public forum? Or with his management if you're not suggesting Meat should make a public announcement

I’ve never e-mailed Meat or PM’d him on anything other than Fan Club business that’s where I draw the line and I intend to stay on that side of the line … he has a right to a personal life. As for my supposed criticism I think I’ll leave others to judge that … admittedly I speak my mind but I try not to be sycophantic.


Mike

[CarylB]

Of course Meat has a right to a personal life .. I agree with that. But tnis isn't about his personal life. I was just suggesting that rather than raise your concerns about whether an official statement is made or not, this might be more kindly done direct, rather than in a pubic forum where Meat has said he (understandably imo) looks for support rather than criticism. If you're suggesting that thoughtfulness or tact equate with sycophancy, then it's a quality that is somewhat different to the usual definition .. and perhaps one that more should aspire to these days :)

Caryl

[Mike Piercy]

Of course Meat has a right to a personal life .. I agree with that. But tnis isn't about his personal life. I was just suggesting that rather than raise your concerns about whether an official statement is made or not, this might be more kindly done direct, rather than in a pubic forum where Meat has said he (understandably imo) looks for support rather than criticism. If you're suggesting that thoughtfulness or tact equate with sycophancy, then it's a quality that is somewhat different to the general definition .. and perhaps one that more should aspire to these days :)

Caryl

You are the one who is suggesting that it's critical Caryl ... which is a major distortion as usual. If you care to look back through the topics on this I think you'll find no one (or very few) was expecting Meat to make a statement personally (he's promoting hard, quite rightly) rather at this stage you'd expect the "gold watch" speech from management ... Patti was rather fundamental to all those duets don't you think? A major part of Meatlife for 13years - thoughtfulness and tact wouldn't go amiss there eh?

[CarylB]

I did say "it seems to me" .. so it's a matter of perspective, a point of view rather than the distortion you seem to imply is a habitual practice of mine Mike.

Because I was unclear as to whom you felt should make a statement, I also said
" Or with his management if you're not suggesting Meat should make a public announcement"

As you rightly say, some have implied Meat should have made a statement. I wasn't sure whether you were suggesting Meat should or his management, but if it's the latter then I would have thought a note to them direct would be more likely to bear fruit than posting it here.

Just my view of course, so we shall no doubt have to agree to disagree. And that's fine.

Caryl

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: I think that if everybody who wanted info on what's happened e mailed him, his computer would go into overload and blow up :wink:

Obviously everybody would like to know the situation, but would Meat really have the time to read all those e mails?
And reply to them all?

On that side of it, I am agreed with Mike.

I do think that this thread has got to cool off alittle.

I know some people (and I include myself in this :oops: ) have let their frustrations get the better of them, and as well as posting their best wishes to Patti, they have also posted how unhappy they are at the situation.

I think the news has had a little time to set in now, so I think that we should accept that Patti has indeed left the band, and direct this thread to wishing her all the best for the future.

Which is one thing i'm sure we can all agree on.

[LucyK!]

I'm stunned at just how heated this thread has become! Patti's left the band - end of! She'll be extremely missed but she's gone and there's sod all we can do about it, so let's get on with it and welcome Aspen to the stage.

[R.]

I'm stunned at just how heated this thread has become! Patti's left the band - end of! She'll be extremely missed but she's gone and there's sod all we can do about it, so let's get on with it and welcome Aspen to the stage.Agreed. This thread needs time to cool off. Closed for a while.