THE STANDING

[White of High]

1. Bat Out Of Hell (9.50)

For Crying Out Loud (10.00) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=385)
Bat Out Of Hell (10.00) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=342)
Paradise By The Dashboard Light (9.73) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=384)
Heaven Can Wait (9.52) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=345)
You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth (9.31) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=344)
Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad (9.21) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376)
All Revved Up With No Place To Go (8.75)LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=347)



2. Bat Out Of Hell II: Back Into Hell (9.05)

Objects In The Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer... (9.84) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=662)
Rock And Roll Dreams Come Through (9.70) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=593)
I'd Do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That) (9.68) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=569)
Everything Louder Than Everything Else (9.37) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669)
Out Of The Frying Pan (9.36) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=647)
Life Is A Lemon And I Want My Money Back (9.33) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=577)
Wasted Youth (8.88) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=664)
Lost Boys And Golden Girls (8.85) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=696)
It Just Won't Quit (8.80) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=629)
Good Girls Go To Heaven (Bad Girls Go Everywhere) (8.52) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=678)
Back Into Hell (7.21) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684)



3. The Very Best Of (8.21)*

A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste (8.44) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=952)
Home By Now/No Matter What (8.33) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=889)
Is Nothing Sacred (7.85) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=926)

* We count only with the new songs



4. Dead Ringer (8.18)

I'm Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us (9.34) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392)
Read 'em And Weep (9.04) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413)
I'll Kill You If You Don't Come Back (8.58) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398)
Dead Ringer For Love (8.48) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=427)
More Than You Deserve (8.45) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394)
Nocturnal Pleasure (7.34) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419)
Peel Out (7.27) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=390)
Everything Is Permitted (6.92) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=429)




5. Couldn't Have Said It Better (8.16)

Testify (9.29) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1696)
Did I Say That? (9.14) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1504)
Man Of Steel (9.05) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1609)
Couldn't Have Said It Better (8.76) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1472)
Forever Young (8.61) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1852)
Love You Out Loud (8.32) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1568)
Mercury Blues (8.18) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1922)
Because Of You (8.10) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1831)
Why Isn't That Enough? (7.96) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1545)
Tear Me Down (7.67) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1745)
You're Right, I Was Wrong (7.07) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1807)
Intermezzo (7.02) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1664)
Do It! (6.87) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1843)




6. Bad Attitude (8.09)

Bad Attitude (8.46) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464)
Cheatin' In Your Dreams (8.46) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=485)
Surf's Up (8.36) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=469)
Nowhere Fast (8.25) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=466)
Don't Leave Your Mark On Me (8.23) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=495)
Piece Of The Action (8.13) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=475)
Modern Girl (7.72) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=465)
Sailor To A Siren (7.65) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=500)
Jumpin' The Gun (7.57) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=476)




7. Hell In A Handbasket (7.61)

California Dreamin' (8.63) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18157)
The Giving Tree (8.31) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17753)
Live Or Die (8.13) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18142)
Blue Sky (7.94) LINL (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18144)
Our Love & Our Souls (7.88) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18191)
40 Days (7.80) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18182)
All Of Me (7.75) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17745)
Another Day (7.56) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18176)
Party Of One (7.54) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18162)
Fall From Grace (7.27) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17747)
Stand In The Storm (6.53) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18192)
Mad Mad World (The Good God Is A Woman And She Don't Like Ugly) (5.93)LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18152)




8. Hang Cool Teddy Bear (7.57)

Song Of Madness (8.97) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15911)
Elvis In Vegas (8.93) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15965)
Living On The Outside (8.52) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15321)
Peace On Earth (8.32) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15300)
California Isn't Big Enough (Hey There Girls) (8.16) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15924)
If It Rains (7.92) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15961)
If I Can't Have You (7.67) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15900)
Los Angeloser (7.63) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15329)
Love Is Not Real (Next Time You Stab Me In The Back) (7.44) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15905)
Did You Ever Love Somebody (6.78) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15916)
Running Away From Me (6.74) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15933)
Let's Be In Love (6.59) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15948)
Like A Rose (4.78) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15909)

[Michel]

9. Bat Out Of Hell 3: The Monster Is Loose (7.48)

Blind As A Bat (9.00) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8942)
In The Land Of The Pig, The Butcher Is King (8.63) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8978)
Alive (8.50) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9028)
The Monster Is Loose (8.23) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8941)
Monstro (8.18) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8979)
What About Love (7.93) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9085)
Bad For Good (7.90) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8946)
Seize The Night (7.65) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9108)
If It Ain't Broke, Break It (7.37) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9030)
If God Could Talk (6.97) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9029)
It's All Coming Back To Me Now (6.84) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8944)
Cry Over Me (6.68) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8976)
The Future Ain't What It Used To Be (6.18) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9125)
Cry To Heaven (4.60) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9127)




10. Welcome To The Neighbourhood (7.37)

Original Sin (9.05) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=721)
Left In The Dark (8.85) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=770)
Where The Rubber Meets The Road (8.71) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=699)
Where Angels Sing (8.13) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=839)
I'd Lie For You (And That's The Truth) (7.92) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=705)
Amnesty Is Granted (7.68) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=803)
Martha (7.67) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=814)
Not A Dry Eye In The House (7.50) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=776)
Runnin' For The Red Light (7.16) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=740)
If This Is The Last Kiss (6.94) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=807)
Fiesta De Las Almas Perdidas (4.46) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=758)
45 Seconds Of Ecstasy (4.40) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=728)


11. Midnight At The Lost And Found (6.66)

Don't You Look At Me Like That (7.37) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=452)
Fallen Angel (7.32) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462)
If You Really Want To (7.31) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458)
The Promised Land (7.04) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450)
Razor's Edge (6.81) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=431)
Keep Driving (6.73)LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=435)
Priscilla (6.50) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457)
Midnight At The Lost And Found (6.05) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433)
Wolf At Your Door (6.00) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434)
You Can Never Be Too Sure About The Girl (5.50) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=451)




12. Blind Before I Stop (6.35)

Standing On The Outside (8.32) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=542)
Execution Day (8.00) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=506)
Blind Before I Stop (7.10) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=531)
Rock 'n' Roll Hero (7.03) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567)
Masculine (6.83) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=553)
Rock 'n' Roll Mercenaries (6.50) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=509)
One More Kiss (Night Of The Soft Parade)(5.94) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=525)
Man And A Woman (5.13) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=561)
Burning Down (5.10) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=539)
Getting Away With Murder (5.06) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=518)
Special Girl (4.88) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=563)




13. Stoney & Meatloaf (5.98)

Sunshine (7.60) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=594)
(I'd Love To Be) As Heavy As Jesus (7.29) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=558)
She Waits By The Window (6.90) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=566)
It Takes All Kind Of People (6.80) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=568)
What You See Is What You Get (6.66) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=584)
Jessyca White (6.17) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=633)
Stone Heart (6.10) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=643)
Jimmy Bell (6.00) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603)
Lady Be Mine (6.00) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=610)
Who Is The Leader Of The People (5.70) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=658)
Game Of Love (5.60) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=570)
Kiss Me Again (5.50) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=574)
Let Me Come Down Easy (4.83) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=679)
The Way You Do The Things You Do (4.33) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=668)
Everything Under The Sun (4.25) LINK (http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=661)












*Great work, White. :wink: <------------ Original post!

[Bart]

What is this exactly :??: Almost a seven for Midnite? are you drunk :wink:

[mariella]

Don't know what happened, but we can still vote on this, can't we?

Mariella

[White of High]

This is a few statistic. We gave points and here is the standing. These are average!

[White of High]

Yes, Mariella!
You know!

IT'S JUST STANDING!!!

[mariella]

Thank you, I got it now. This must have been a lot of work for you, didn't know this, but know I will visit this section more often.

Nice work,

Mariella

[Bart]

How do i vote?

[White of High]

What a surprise!!!

For Crying Out Loud is just 4th on BOOH!
Left In The Dark would be the No. 1. on WTTN!
Always best Modern Girl from Bad Attitude is last but one!
Bad Attitude is preceding WTTN!
Midnight is one of the worst song on MATLAF (Hmmm... like Meat Loaf)!
Man And A Woman is the worst!

[Cloggy]

The scores on WTTN are a bit flawed, cause 45 secs and fiesta arent really tracks/songs.

[White of High]

No more than write down your opinions and your scores! And I will count...
But please not all songs at the same time...

[White of High]

Cloggy!
And Wasted Youth, Back Into Hell or Nocturnal Pleasure too. But somebodies scored...

[Cloggy]

Yeah but lowering an albums rating big time because of some short "in between" clip is a bit harsh :)

[White of High]

Change!

Paradise was preceding Heaven Can Wait!
Don't You Look At Me Like That went forward!

Difference between BOOH and BOOH2 was grown!
Difference between WTTN and Bad Attitude was slown down!

[Tim]

Wow, white!!! What a job man, did you have computer teaching orso......LOL!

But still, it looks great!

[White of High]

Amnesty Is Granted is going up!
MATLAF and Took The Words are going down!

[Tim]

Think now we all now that it was kind of a list with standings, we are all gonna try to put "our" song in the top!! So that ain't fair!

[The Flying Mouse]

Great work White 8) .
I'm not too sure what you mean Tim.If somebody gives a song a good score it will be because they like it.The only way anybody can influence the grading of a song is to give it a score out of ten.As there are other people voting too one persons vote (although important)has a limited effect on a songs total score.

[White of High]

Life Is A Lemon was precending Objects and Rock 'n' Roll Dreams!

[Tim]

Still, have you've been really calculating the scores that everybody gave??? 8O

[White of High]

Oh yes, why not?

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: I am assuming that the way WOH calculates the score is for example...
10/10
8/10
4/10
7/10
8/10
5/10
7/10
8/10

Add the scores together (57)
Devide the total by the ammount of times the song has been rated (57into8) leaves a total of 7.125
Is that right White?

[White of High]

Yes! Is it really complicated for everybody???

[mariella]

No White, I even got it now :lol:

Mariella

[mariella]

Wow, I am a super loafer now :bunny:

Mariella (still) "Herself"

[dottie]

No White, I even got it now :lol:

Mariella

Perhaps you could explain it to me what do I have to do?

[mariella]

Easy Dottie, all we have to do is rate the songs.
White does all the work! :bunny:

We can do this :lol:

Mariella

[White of High]

BOOH2 started closing up...

[jcmoorehead]

I could guess BOOH and BOOH2 will be the best albums. BTW Im a Junior Loafer :lol:

[White of High]

Easy Dottie, all we have to do is rate the songs.
White does all the work! :bunny:

We can do this :lol:

Mariella

Well Dottie! I wait you!

[dottie]

So I type my favourite meat songs and give them a score - is that right?
Hanging around :)

[Tim]

White, are you also going to do the vids of Meat loaf??? hehehe :lol:

[White of High]

Razor's Edge is falling!!!

[White of High]

The Very Best Of is 3rd best album!!!

[Tim]

Are you keeping it up to date?? man what a work!! Why don't you update it every month orso........ Then you have one busy day.

[White of High]

Life Is A Lemon became the 4th best song!!!

[White of High]

Paradise is the BEST with 9.91!!!
45 Seconds is the worst with 4.00!!!
Dead Ringer (the album)'s score is jumped up!!!

[White of High]

45 Seconds is 4.57! Only the 3rd worst song!

[White of High]

WTTN's hot on the scent of Bad Attitude!!!

[JacenSolo]

I understand the scoring part, but does someone have a key or can explain the significance of the colored bars under the albums?
Thanks !

[White of High]

You can find the explain in the START OUT OF HELL & ARRIVE IN HEAVEN topic. I think it is somewhere on the 3rd page.

[White of High]

Is Nothing Sacred was fallen!!!

[dottie]

Whats No. 1 then - I'm a little confused

[White of High]

Dottie!
1st: Paradise By The Dashboard Light
2nd: Bat Out Of Hell
3rd: I'd Do Anything For Love
4th: Life Is A Lemon
5-6th: Objects & Rock 'n' Roll Dreams
7th: Out Of The Frying Pan
8th: Heaven Can Wait
9-10th: For Crying Out Loud & No Matter What

[dottie]

Oh Yes - Paradise No. 1 - Yipee

[White of High]

The 'Blind Before I Stop' album is going up!!!

[White of High]

No Matter What and Kiss are falling and falling and falling...

[White of High]

45 Seconds Of Ecstasy isn't the worst on WTTN!!!
The Promised Land is the 2nd on MATLAF!!!

[meatfan]

Read all the posts but STILL can't find ou t how to vote! :? :? :?

Someone please help this old bat out! Words of one syllable would be helpful as I am still finding my way round this forum.

Heather.

[White of High]

You have to vote the songs under their titles. You write your rates and I will count.

[White of High]

Home By Now/No Matter What under 8.00!!!

[White of High]

Bat Out Of Hell is the best again!!!
Not A Dry Eye already is at the back of Original Sin on WTTN!!!

[White of High]

Life Is A Lemon was fallen!!!

[White of High]

For Crying Out Loud is 3rd best on BOOH!!!

[White of High]

Where The Rubber Meets The Road preceded Not A Dry Eye!

[White of High]

Original Sin preceded Martha!!!

[White of High]

The best 5 are:
1. Bat Out Of Hell (9.90)
2. Paradise By The Dashboard Light (9.83)
3. I'd Do Anything For Love (9.80+)
4. For Crying Out Loud (9.71)
5-6. Objects & Rock And Roll Dreams (9.67)

[White of High]

Don't You Look At Me Like That is the 2nd best on MATLAF!!!

[White of High]

Don't Leave Your Mark On Me (8.25) is going up!!!

[White of High]

We have cleaned the problem about FCOL!
Well, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD is the best at now with 9.98!!!

[Michel]

That's the way I like it. :lol:

[White of High]

Bad Attitude album is orange with 8.00!!!

[White of High]

I'm Gonna Love Her For Both Of Us is in Top10!!!

[Steve]

Call me an old 'stick in the mud' but.....

Is this really necessary?

We all have our favourites - do we have to make a damned competition out of it to see which is the 'most' favourite?

Figures take the soul out of debate and make it a pseudo-science: to my mind, the 'good' or 'bad' opinion does not necessarily reflect the value of the song - that depends upon how the music and lyrics have touched your life.

It is a pity to devalue songs by making a horserace out of them.

[Sue K]

okay..you're an ol' stick in the mud...giggle..HEY you asked me to...

ANYroad..i understand what you are saying? however..what I think would be interesting to see..and loaf knows..I'VE no time to work on it...is someone to take the list of songs Meat said he and the band were working on in rehearsals..and see what of THOSE would be faves...

imo..if he were a mind to...would help them decide what to play where..regionally..ya know?

just a thought...

tink...XO

[White of High]

Life Is A Lemon is falling!!!

[White of High]

Left In The Dark is only 2nd on WTTN!!!

[Michel]

A question, White. How do you count the avarage when people give 11 or higher?

[White of High]

I'm counting with those votes. If anybody think a song is over the border, why not? But it must be 11, no 12 or higher vote. Them are as same as 11. And the average won't be higher than 10!!!

[mariella]

Ofcourse I understand that, White.

This was just 'to state' HOW much I love Testify. Will not do this in the future, I promise. Will not even rate songs of the new album 10/10 after this. Only Testify, to make clear just how much I love it!

Hope you are not too 'angry' with me!

Love,

Mariella

[Michel]

The reason why I asked this is because I think the people here aren't objective, because I don't see that any song from other albums have a grade above 10.

[White of High]

More Than You Deserve overtook Peel Out!

[White of High]

Paradise is falling. Only 4th on BOOH!!!

[tukayaway]

How about Meat performs a concert with the top songs? I think it would be very popular :D

[White of High]

Oh yes! I hope Meat is here sometimes and will give for you good concerts with these songs. Not for me... never!

[mariella]

Please White, never say never...Some of those rock and roll dreams do come true. Dottie knows all about that!
And you do remember what will happen if you would go to a ML concert :!:

Keep the faith!

Mariella

[White of High]

2 Out Of 3 rose with 0.30!
Where Angels Sing rose with 0.86!
Martha fell with 1.19!

[White of High]

Objects is the best on BOOH2!

[White of High]

At now Original Sin is the best on WTTN!!!

[White of High]

Here is Couldn't Have Said It Better with 8.13!!!
The new album is 5th at now!!!

[White of High]

Rock And Roll Dreams is the best on BOOH2!!!

[White of High]

Bad Attitude came up to 4th place from 6th!
Dead Ringer fell down to 6th place from 4th!

Some suprise:
Dead Ringer For Love, Modern Girl & Midnight At The Lost And Found are last on his album!
Out Of The Frying Pan is the 2nd best on BOOH2!

[White of High]

For Crying Out Loud is 10.00 at now!

[RSG]

YAAAAA, For Crying Out Loud!

Just curious, how come THE VERY BEST OF is considered a studio album?
I know there's 3 new songs on it, but you know.....I don't know it just seems wierd to me, but its alright I guess. I love the record itself though.

[White of High]

Bad Attitude is our 3rd favourite album!!!

[White of High]

The new album is our 4th favourite!!!

[Michel]

Not my fourth favorite. :lol:

[White of High]

And not mine too... :wink:

[White of High]

CHSIB is the 3rd best album!!!

[Michel]

I can't and will not believe that. :?

[White of High]

Me too! But I know the answer! Some friends give 10 all songs on the album. I think my plan has failed. Some members can't value impartially...

[Michel]

You're right, White. :wink:

[Sue K]

Me too! But I know the answer! Some friends give 10 all songs on the album. I think my plan has failed. Some members can't value impartially...

The best-laid plans of mice and men go oft astray.

[White of High]

The best-laid plans of mice and men go oft astray.

Do I must understand for myself or themselves?

[White of High]

Dead Ringer has jumped up to No. 4. from No. 6.
Dead Ringer For Love is better with 1.59!!!

[Michel]

Great news, White. :D

[White of High]

Couldn't Have Said It Better is 2nd best on the album!

[Michel]

I agree, but I think that song is better than Testify.

[White of High]

I think that too. My opinion CHSIB is the best on the album. And Forever Young and Did I Say That? are better too...

[Michel]

I also think Forever Young is better also. Testify is my third best song on the album.

[White of High]

Bad Attitude and Dead Ringer have changed position...

[White of High]

Objects... is the 2nd best on BOOH2!!!

[Tim]

My god... this is horrible.

How in the hell can CHSIB be on the third place??? This is ~~~~in' impossible. This ain't true. There must be a small mis calculation in the scoring.

Welcome to the neighbourhood is even better, even Blind before i stop is better....

[Tim]

Think some people don't rate fair!!!!

and i think that some people are kissing someones a$s.

[White of High]

You use hard voice Tim but I have to agree with you...
I would not rate BBIS higher but Bad Attitude, The Very Best Of and Dead Ringer are so much better!

[Michel]

Tim always uses hard voice, Tim's a bit like Meat: larger than life and twice as loud. :lol:

But I also agree with Tim, but like White said, I don't rate BBIS higher, but Bad Attitude, WTTN and Dead Ringer are so much better!

[White of High]

I can't rewrite the values. Why??? I'd like to refresh this topic!!!

[R.]

I can't rewrite the values. Why??? I'd like to refresh this topic!!!

Yes, the software disallows editing a post that is older than 30 minutes.
This is global option, so there's nothing I can do right now. I'll try to find a solution for that.
Until then, I'm afraid you'll have to add a reply for every refresh you want to do.

[rockfenris2005]

My rating for the albums (because the ones up are BLASPHEMY)

BAT OUT OF HELL
BAT OUT OF HELL II
COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER
THE VERY BEST OF MEAT LOAF
DEAD RINGER
BAD ATTITUDE
WELCOME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
MIDNIGHT AT THE LOST AND FOUND
BLIND BEFORE I STOP

[White of High]

R.!
Could you do anything?
I want to refresh the votes but I can't. Could you lift a ban to change the counts? Please, help me! I think we are curious. If you don't want lift, write me a PM about an era when the site is opened and I will refresh the votes. I think everybofy are curious...

[R.]

R.!
Could you do anything?
I want to refresh the votes but I can't. Could you lift a ban to change the counts? Please, help me! I think we are curious. If you don't want lift, write me a PM about an era when the site is opened and I will refresh the votes. I think everybofy are curious...Patience, please. Will come back to this next week.

[White of High]

Next week is over :)

[R.]

Done. :nag:
Check PM.

[White of High]

Paradise is up to Heaven Can Wait...

[Ross]

Hey! Can I add my scores to the threads to be added or are these scores final?

Ross

[RockNRollHEro]

How does Very Best of Meat Loaf count as an album? It's a compilation with a few new songs but not an album.

[Ross]

I think that's why only the new songs are counted.


Ross

[White of High]

I would edit again the list if I got a chance to do that!

[robgomm]

How about just giving us a rundown of best to worst songs based on all the average ratings you've compiled. So that's 98 songs I believe.

[White of High]

Bat Out Of Hell is only the 7th on the list!!!
Sorry Meat, but look like this album as a Bat is shame...

[White of High]

Stoney & Meatloaf is the worst album...

[White of High]

Hang Cool Teddy Bear is our 7th favourite Meat Loaf album. A little bit better than Bat 3! An odd thing: no red song's on the list!

[Steve6]

I have only noticed this thread now, and to be honest I'm shocked at those standings.

WTTN at 9th is a joke. :evil: It's easily a better album than CHSIB, and Dead Ringer. The Very Best shoudn't be in there, because it's a compilation. Bat 3 is also better than DR and CHSIB. This thread was created in 2003, so maybe that's why CHSIB is so far up.

Sorry folks I'm just slucking because WTTN is 9th. :-(

[Sarge]

I'm rather surprised that Like A Rose seems to be the least popular HCTB song, yet it was picked as a single for the fan campaign.

[CarylB]

I'm rather surprised that Like A Rose seems to be the least popular HCTB song, yet it was picked as a single for the fan campaign.


Picked by members of this forum through a poll on here ..

Caryl

[Steve6]

Picked by members of this forum through a poll on here ..

Caryl

I want to vote where is it??

[Wario]

I'm rather surprised that Like A Rose seems to be the least popular HCTB song, yet it was picked as a single for the fan campaign.

If you think its gonna be a good single for radio and whether you yourself like the song or not are two different things.

[White of High]

The first time when I opened the CHSIB threads I thought these were overreacted by members. After 8 years everybody loved everything and rated very high. Some members are voting always with 10, it means FCOL and Do It are the sam category.

My personal opinion that WTTN is better than CHSIB or HCTB but not better than Bad Attitude. Okay, The Very Best Of was a hits and not an album, this is the reason I was counting only with the 3 news songs...

[Evil One]

The first time when I opened the CHSIB threads I thought these were overreacted by members. After 8 years everybody loved everything and rated very high. Some members are voting always with 10, it means FCOL and Do It are the sam category.
Correct. It's interesting that the same problem didn't happen with Bat 3 or HCTB though.

[Elijah's way]

WOW!! that's the wackest list of all time! it don't even make sense. Hang Cool Teddy Bear at #7?!? Welcome To The Neighborhood at #9?!? with Dead Ringer, Couldn't Have Said It Better, Bad Attitude, and The Very Best Of ahead of two of his best albums, really makes no sense!! and Bat 3 is better than those 4 albums. WTF:roll:

[CarylB]

WOW!! that's the wackest list of all time! it don't even make sense. Hang Cool Teddy Bear at #7?!? Welcome To The Neighborhood at #9?!? with Dead Ringer, Couldn't Have Said It Better, Bad Attitude, and The Very Best Of ahead of two of his best albums, really makes no sense!! and Bat 3 is better than those 4 albums. WTF:roll:

But you're only going to get a fair comparison if you have exactly the same people awarding a rating each time. WoH says "After 8 years everybody loved everything and rated very high. Some members are voting always with 10" .. if the some are rated by people who gave low ratings, and others (like myself) don't rate anything down if they can personally not fault a track, you will have a skewed effect.

I never rate tracks against each other, never post on those threads. I rated every track on HCTB a 10 because I love each and every one. That's an entirely reasonable stance imo because one's appreciation is a very personal thing. There is not a song Meat has recorded that I would rate low, because (apart from the spoken ones, that I do not enjoy at all .. and they are Steinman's anyway) there is not a track I would ever fast forward past. There are perhaps some on some albums I might not rate a 10 .. but with HCTB I love them all.

I am not a musician, cannot make comments about this or that guitar solo fading too fast, or this or that drum sequence lacking in some way. I listen to Meat's voice and passion, and the overall feel of the track. I'm simply a follower of Meat, love his music, love what he gives me. When it achieves that for me, it's a 10.

Caryl

[CarylB]

I want to vote where is it??

You missed the boat; it's closed. There were two polls, and the one which polled highest on the second vote (which was between the highest polling tracks in the first vote) was chosen for the campaign. You can't keep changing it during a campaign; too costly in terms of time and our financial resources which are limited to personal expenditure.

Caryl

[White of High]

I never rate tracks against each other, never post on those threads. I rated every track on HCTB a 10 because I love each and every one.

You don't need to rate the tracks against each other. But that's funny when people say FCOL and Like A Rose are sam quality. The first is a masterpiece, a hard job, a deep story, the second one is an easy listening, 2 chords, simple rock cliché. You can enjoy it, but it's not the same quality...

[CarylB]

You don't need to rate the tracks against each other. But that's funny when people say FCOL and Like A Rose are sam quality. The first is a masterpiece, a hard job, a deep story, the second one is an easy listening, 2 chords, simple rock cliché. You can enjoy it, but it's not the same quality...

But that's precisely what you are doing in your reply .. rating one song against another.

As I said, it's a personal choice, my view on tracks on an album. I do not think about a track on another album when I rate a song .. I ask myself, can I fault it? If the answer in my opinion is no, then I say 10.

I said also that I am not a musician, don't analyse evey chord, I am simply someone who loves Meat's voice, performance, creativity, passion and style. I do not listen to find flaws or faults. I listen to enjoy. HCTB is TO ME a perfect collection of songs, which TO ME convey a powerful journey of love, self-discovery and learning. Each one TO ME flows from the one before and leads to the next. I know enough about what music I enjoy to know that I love the guitar heavy rock and ballads, and love the sound of Meat's vocals which make me feel like I'm sitting at a live performance. That's how I felt when I first heard the album, how I felt when I finally got it, and how I feel now .. except now I have the visuals playing in my mind when I listen to it having seen Meat performing some of the tracks live. I do not need tricky or complex lyrics .. although I think there is considerable depth to the songs on HCTB, and TO ME they convey a powerful story. I also love the newness of the album .. it's still a Meat album, still rocks, but he's moved on. And I love that.

Caryl

[White of High]

What I can say... you do it well, Caryl...

The reason I like Meat loaf is his theatrical performance, his deep emotions, his heavy and serious arrangement, his very good voice. But I really don't like whe he sings simple rock songs, low tunes ballads, wear funny clothes and show him 20 when he is 60.

In 1998 when Kiss, Is Nothing Sacred and No Matter What came out I thought he goes to a classical way (what is fixing to a 50-60 years old singer). When I heard Jim Steinman's new song from Batman, I said, yes, here are the best very heavy arrenged classical theatrical songs for Meat... but still nothing, just looking for his glam era when he is 60... :(

[CarylB]

Meat's stage clothes are part of his theatrical performance .. and imo are designed to have impact from a distance. You sit at the back of an arena and the colour and sparkles stand out. They neither make him look 20 (how many 20 year olds do you EVER see wearing jackets like that? Please!!!!) nor imo is he aiming for that effect, which would be wasted anyway even were it the case as he now embraces his maturity and tells everyone his age while he's performing. He's not "looking for his glam era" .. he simply wants to make a dramatic appearance on stage, and he is as concerned about the person sitting furthest away from him as he is about those at the front. He's an actor. He's also a magnificent showman, and everything about his show is big, bold, dramatic .. his jackets, the staging, Patti's and CC;s stage costumes.

You are a Steinman fan, you like Meat to sing his songs. I am a Meat fan and I love to hear HIM sing and perform. That's the difference. And Meat has changed direction. He still hammers out his rock and roll style (his, not Steinman's), still commands his stage, still gets his audience to their feet, still performs. Now he has a style he's been working towards, to which all his experience has been leading him. And I'm the lucky one, because I think it's pure gold.

Caryl

[White of High]

You are right, I think Jim Steinman is the best rock composer ever. I'm not that fan who likes everything what are made by his idol. I think Meat had the best voice ever (and Freddy Mercury as well) in pop music and Steinman was the best songwriter. But I don't like Jim's Nowhere Fast or Break It, and I don't like Meat's Do It or Burning Down. I don't like everything what they make.

I have a cold head and pure opinion about all their songs. And most of the people have. This is the reason after CHSIB, HCTB or Bat3 we think Meat's best albums were recorded by Jimmy. So, personality, you can love Meat's new style but most of the people think it's only enough to make a 7th best Meat album...

Meat doesn't need to change his mind, he can do everything what he wants (ban my quotes in other topics, for example :D). But he can accept, after 3 albums in the last 10 years he made average albums. No, I don't say it. All of the fans say it because we rate his all songs...

[Elijah's way]

I know I'm not in this argument but I think HCTB is his 2nd best album!! just thought I'd give my two cents in.:lol:

[CarylB]

You are right, I think Jim Steinman is the best rock composer ever. I'm not that fan who likes everything what are made by his idol. I think Meat had the best voice ever (and Freddy Mercury as well) in pop music and Steinman was the best songwriter. But I don't like Jim's Nowhere Fast or Break It, and I don't like Meat's Do It or Burning Down. I don't like everything what they make.


I said you like Meat to sing Steinman songs. I meant you prefer him singing Steinman, and don't seem to value him singing songs written by other composers as much .. not that you necessarily liked every Steinman penned song.

I have a cold head and pure opinion about all their songs. And most of the people have. This is the reason after CHSIB, HCTB or Bat3 we think Meat's best albums were recorded by Jimmy. So, personality, you can love Meat's new style but most of the people think it's only enough to make a 7th best Meat album...


Many people here .. that doesn't cover every Meat fan. It's 7th best based on your threads here, which seem to generally have under 50 responses.

Meat doesn't need to change his mind, he can do everything what he wants (ban my quotes in other topics, for example :D). But he can accept, after 3 albums in the last 10 years he made average albums. No, I don't say it. All of the fans say it because we rate his all songs...

No, not ALL his fans say it here .. and there are a few more out there than post on this forum. I'm not going to cover matters discussed exhaustively on other threads, but to suggest Meat's albums from the last 10 years are "average" based on comments and ratings made here is a skewed judgement, and allows nothing for the huge changes in the music industry.

To make comparison with BOOH is always going to "prove" it was best, because it was a phenomenon, a landmark album for its time, and captured the market's imagination, and because Meat's name will always be synonymous with BAT, it will continue to sell as he attracts new fans who will buy the album he made his name with.

But if the only yardstick we use to judge an album's worth as an album is sales, then every album he makes will be poorer .. and all the rating threads are pointless too. Whether you approve ot not, there are many fans on here who DO think HCTB is an exceptional record, and the threads you have started on rating songs and albums show that. Not all .. it's pretty polarised. In general people on here either love it or don't rate it very highly at all. I think more rate it highly than don't .. and to me that it causes controversy is a good thing .. shows it's new, different and can capture the imagination, enthusiasm and hearts of many. That makes it far from "average" imo.

BOOH was and will always be special to me; it was the album that brought him into my world. But although I don't make a point of comparing albums, the ones I play most often are CHSIB and HCTB (and Best Of because that has so many favourites on it). CHSIB connected with me more than any other album he'd released after BOOH, and HCTB is, to ME, a masterpiece. It's not just about the notes, the cleverness or simplicity of the lyrics, the style etc; rock and roll is imo more about the connection it makes with one on a very individual level. Meat's passion and delivery never fail to connect with me, so I enjoy all his albums without criticism or complaint, but CHSIB and HCTB connect powerfully as albums.

Caryl

[carole]

Meat's stage clothes are part of his theatrical performance .. and imo are designed to have impact from a distance. You sit at the back of an arena and the colour and sparkles stand out. They neither make him look 20 (how many 20 year olds do you EVER see wearing jackets like that? Please!!!!) nor imo is he aiming for that effect, which would be wasted anyway even were it the case as he now embraces his maturity and tells everyone his age while he's performing. He's not "looking for his glam era" .. he simply wants to make a dramatic appearance on stage, and he is as concerned about the person sitting furthest away from him as he is about those at the front. He's an actor. He's also a magnificent showman, and everything about his show is big, bold, dramatic .. his jackets, the staging, Patti's and CC;s stage costumes.

You are a Steinman fan, you like Meat to sing his songs. I am a Meat fan and I love to hear HIM sing and perform. That's the difference. And Meat has changed direction. He still hammers out his rock and roll style (his, not Steinman's), still commands his stage, still gets his audience to their feet, still performs. Now he has a style he's been working towards, to which all his experience has been leading him. And I'm the lucky one, because I think it's pure gold.

Caryl

I feel the same way Caryl, you sum it up nicely. I am a fan of Meat's and love all his songs, regardless of who wrote them. That is pretty irrelevant to me. But of course I have my favourites and love some more than others. I love his voice, his passion and how he makes every song he sings his own and puts his own unique stamp on it. He is a showman, and it shows at all his concerts. Whereas a lot of other artists just get up there in jeans and a tshirt, and some are downright scruffy, Meat always looks immaculate on stage and has taken a lot of trouble with his appearance. I love his sparkly jackets.

Carole

[Elijah's way]

So... Is anybody gonna update this thread?

[White of High]

After HIAHB votes...

[White of High]

Hell In A Handbasket with a rate of 7.61 is our 7th favourite Meat Loaf album, only one step from Hang Cool Teddy Bear.

MLUKFC members keep California Dreamin' the best on the album and Meat fans don't like rap. Both rap songs are on the bottom of the list.

Voting is not closed, open forever!

[CarylB]

Hell In A Handbasket with a rate of 7.61 is our 7th favourite Meat Loaf album, only one step from Hang Cool Teddy Bear.

MLUKFC members keep California Dreamin' the best on the album and Meat fans don't like rap. Both rap songs are on the bottom of the list.

I'd have thought that with average scores of close to 5 for Mad Mad World, and 6.5 for Stand in the Storm, and the numbers voting (14 and 15 respectively), you could infer that something between 5-7 members of this forum don't like rap when Meat includes it in a song, and to the extent that it pulls the songs down to the bottom of your list. Certainly some of the 14/15 people liked it quite a lot.

Caryl

[White of High]

Voting is free. I cannot count votes of anybody who doesn't vote. So, sorry if it bad for you, but fans who voted kept rap songs the worst on the album...

[White of High]

Another interesting thing... Similarly to HCTB there is no red song on HIAHB. We keep Blind As A Bat as Meat's last big hit...

Personally I keep Song Of Madness a hit. ;-)

[Paul Richardson]

Voting is free. I cannot count votes of anybody who doesn't vote. So, sorry if it bad for you, but fans who voted kept rap songs the worst on the album...

You can't argue with statistical analysis ... even the odd 10 for songs everyone else thinks are less than good can't skew the overall result ... :twisted: averages are averages ... :D

[Paul Richardson]

So presumably you'd dispute an election result you didn't like just because some of the electorate couldn't be bothered to get off their arse and vote ?

Statistical analysis is absolute and beyond debate, by definition, no matter how much you may, subjectively, 'dislike' the result ...

... the person that votes 1 is probably as 'unreasonable' as the person that votes 10, the whole point of averaging the scores is it evens out the more extreme views to arrive at a consensus ...

[Wario]

itd be nice if youd take the time and link each song to its corresponding thread. these threads are interesting reads and it cna be a chore to find them. Itd be nice if they were all in one place.

[Paul Richardson]

So presumably you'd dispute an election result you didn't like just because some of the electorate couldn't be bothered to get off their arse and vote ?

Statistical analysis is absolute and beyond debate, by definition, no matter how much you may, subjectively, 'dislike' the result ...

... the person that votes 1 is probably as 'unreasonable' as the person that votes 10, the whole point of averaging the scores is it evens out the more extreme views to arrive at a consensus ...

My post now makes no sense, as the post by BostonAngel I was responding to has now been deleted ...

[BostonAngel]

My post now makes no sense, as the post by BostonAngel I was responding to has now been deleted ...

I don't even know what post you are referring to.

[Mr. Happy]

We consider the Very Best of Meat Loaf to be a better album than Hang Cool Teddy Bear, Welcome to the Neighbourhood, Dead Ringer, Couldn't Have Said It Better and Bat out of Hell 3?

Really?

[White of High]

The Very Best Of wasn't a real album but it was under the name of Meat and had 3 songs. If you ask me these 3 songs are magnificent and I totally agree with the order. But I think Kiss should be a red song...

[Mr. Happy]

The Very Best Of wasn't a real album but it was under the name of Meat and had 3 songs. If you ask me these 3 songs are magnificent and I totally agree with the order. But I think Kiss should be a red song...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not knocking the songs, all three are brilliant. I just don't think it constitutes being on the list of our favourite ALBUMS, considering there's...three songs :lol:

[The Flying Mouse]

itd be nice if youd take the time and link each song to its corresponding thread. these threads are interesting reads and it cna be a chore to find them. Itd be nice if they were all in one place.

:twisted: I'll have a natter to the staff :up:
I'm happy to do it, but I don't know if we want links to a lot of very old threads. It could be a database drain.

We consider the Very Best of Meat Loaf to be a better album than Hang Cool Teddy Bear, Welcome to the Neighbourhood, Dead Ringer, Couldn't Have Said It Better and Bat out of Hell 3?

Really?

It's pretty revealing, but you can't fault the math :shrug:
I was surprised at some of the results myself.

[White of High]

:twisted: I'll have a natter to the staff :up:
I'm happy to do it, but I don't know if we want links to a lot of very old threads. It could be a database drain.

Not really. If we linked them we souldn't open new threads to tell our opinion.

[The Flying Mouse]

Not really. If we linked them we souldn't open new threads to tell our opinion.

:twisted: Just want to be sure before I do all that work only to have R tearing at his hair screaming "my forum, what have you done to my beautiful forum" :lol:

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: R has given the go ahead to do the links, so i'll be doing them as and when I can be bothered :mrgreen:

[The Flying Mouse]

:twisted: R has given the go ahead to do the links, so i'll be doing them as and when I can be bothered :mrgreen:

:twisted: Apparently I could be bothered because it's all finished :mrgreen:

One unexpected problem was that with all the links thrown in, the text within the post went over the allowed number of characters.

The only way around it was to hijack Michel's post below WOH's and put half of the albums there.

Reads well enough though :shrug: , and you can now go to the discussion thread for any song on any Meat album from the two posts :up: