View Full Version : What if God was one of us?
Paul191
02 Dec 2006, 13:33
(See title^)
RadioMaster
02 Dec 2006, 13:43
...is a great song by Joan Osborne!:))
Would probably be locked up in lunatic asylum before he had a chance to say "bless you"...
Highly improbable for he does not exist.
geordieloaf
02 Dec 2006, 15:28
Highly improbable for he does not exist.
O man your going to hell.
He would be seeking asylum in this country and living like a king on my tax money.
O man your going to hell.
He would be seeking asylum in this country and living like a king on my tax money.
lol No Hell to go to though :P
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/member.php?u=497 :bleh:
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/member.php?u=497 :bleh:
Hallelujah!!!!
God IS one of us!!!
Long live the GOD!!!
Oh wait...isn't he/she immortal???
Lord Kagan
02 Dec 2006, 16:28
I prefer the song "What if god smoked cannabis"
I prefer the song "What if god smoked cannabis"
Oh babe...if he created this Universe...he must have been smoking something MUCH more powerful...
Lord Kagan
02 Dec 2006, 16:31
Meh dont believe in God so ill Just say away from this thread :p
Meh dont believe in God so ill Just say away from this thread :p
:shock:
Thought you went to parochial school???
Lord Kagan
02 Dec 2006, 16:50
I do, thats exactly why i dont believe
I do, thats exactly why i dont believe
Nun smacked you around few times too many???
The Flying Mouse
02 Dec 2006, 18:13
:twisted: If god was one of us then he's probablly come to this forum telling the staff how to do their jobs and bitching about the infraction system :roll:
RadioMaster
02 Dec 2006, 19:04
carl, you´re mixing up religion and church, which is a HUGE difference, there´s nothing wrong with religion.
PS:
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/member.php?u=3
:twisted: If god was one of us then he's probablly come to this forum telling the staff how to do their jobs and bitching about the infraction system :roll:
Bloody hell...he probably would have come here and taught Meat how to sing and Jimmy how to write songs...
What's this "he" business? When God made Man, SHE was only practising.
Lord Kagan
02 Dec 2006, 19:30
Nun smacked you around few times too many???
Nope just dont believe as school wont let me question the faith etc
allrevvedup
02 Dec 2006, 20:06
most of us here in ireland have had the catholic church, religion and god served up to us in neverending plates of dross.
Thankfully it's changing because less and less of us care about the 'word of god' and what we cant stomach is the servants of the lord, some of whom, with double standards.
anyway anyone who claimed to be jesus or god would be locked up straight away and called mad, male or female.
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/member.php?u=3You talking to me? :bleh:
Lord Kagan
02 Dec 2006, 20:54
I say you kill RJ :p
RadioMaster
02 Dec 2006, 21:00
You talking to me? :bleh:
*tries to remember his literature lessons*
WHAT would I get if I sell you my soul?:devil:
allrevvedup
02 Dec 2006, 22:00
about €3.50 plus p&p
Nope just dont believe as school wont let me question the faith etc
Nothing is wrong with religion...but the problem might be with religious institutions...
I am for religion WITHOUT religious institutions...
Lord Kagan
02 Dec 2006, 23:32
Nothing is wrong with religion...but the problem might be with religious institutions...
I am for religion WITHOUT religious institutions...
I dunno i just see half the things the church has done especially the catholic church being totally contradictory to its doctrine and beliefs
I dunno i just see half the things the church has done especially the catholic church being totally contradictory to its doctrine and beliefs
The same in almost every other religion...
RadioMaster
02 Dec 2006, 23:49
Nothing is wrong with religion...but the problem might be with religious institutions...
I am for religion WITHOUT religious institutions...
Zina, that was definitely the wisest comment I ever read on this forum. Thanks! Makes it even more interesting as it matches my opinion.
Zina, that was definitely the wisest comment I ever read on this forum. Thanks! Makes it even more interesting as it matches my opinion.
Couldn't ever figure out why God would need an office and/or office hours...plus full staff...
RadioMaster
03 Dec 2006, 00:03
the main thing that worries me about religious institutions are the senseless rules and ceremonies. How should that take me nearer to God? I cant identify with such people. Although I´ve got many friend for who it is a huge help in their life, so I guess everybody got to find his/her own way of praising God.
True...being religious means a lot of different things to a lot of different people...
True...being religious means a lot of different things to a lot of different people...
Yeah like it means your crazy in my eyes :P But not so in other peoples!
Lord Kagan
03 Dec 2006, 16:14
You should respect other peoples faiths :p
As should they mine. Why is it that its okay for Christians to state their belief over mine and when I do it I'm disrespecting theirs?
"There are, in effect, two things, to know and to believe one knows; to know is science; to believe one knows is ignorance." - Hippocrates
RadioMaster
03 Dec 2006, 16:49
I´ve got many religious and many non religious friends, and as my religion teacher once said, "I´ll respect every way as long as people got a reason and can tell me why they do what they do"
Yeah like it means your crazy in my eyes :P But not so in other peoples!
I am crazy in ALL the people's eyes...BAD example...
needmoremeat
03 Dec 2006, 18:25
I'm Catholic, my brother is a priest, but I really can't stand going to mass!:lol: Except for when they have the fairtrade stalls on once a month and I stock up on the Divine chocolate, it's gorgeous! Divine, even!;)
If God were me...don't really want to go there!
On the other hand, if I were God, first thing I'd do would be to abolish women's monthly problems!:D
Well I know i exist so I believe in Me.
And if you will excuse me, the angels have band practice and even though they had guitars even before I gave them wings, they need all the practise they can get.
Paul191
04 Dec 2006, 13:45
Haha. I made this thread simply to see what kind of response it would get. Some histerical posts. Cheers.
Pudding
05 Dec 2006, 03:45
Religion is a big sack of knackers for people who need to be told how to live their lives because they're too stupid to figure it out for themselves. Do good things, don't do bad things, unless they deserve it.
I can't stand people who feel they have go to Church and knock on my door to try and drag me along. Standing in the middle of a Church makes you no more a better person, than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Pud :twisted:
Rockette
05 Dec 2006, 04:55
:-) If we are all made in God's image, then I see God every time I look into a mirror, or the eyes of my children and grandchildren.
Don't need a fancy church with mindless rituals!
Lord Kagan
05 Dec 2006, 13:00
Standing in the middle of a Church makes you no more a better person, than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Pud :twisted:
:lmao: very true
Paul191
05 Dec 2006, 23:12
Standing in the middle of a Church makes you no more a better person, than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Pud :twisted:
:lmao:
Monstro
05 Dec 2006, 23:35
Standing in the middle of a Church makes you no more a better person, than standing in a garage makes you a car.
Pud :twisted:
I've searched long and wide for my take on this subject, cheers Pud, that sums up everything I've ever wanted to say.
RadioMaster
06 Dec 2006, 00:37
sorry to spoil your ideas pud, but it aint that easy as you want it to be.
Or maybe I´m just too stupid to understand THAT it is that easy....who knows...
I´d like to continue this discussion with you, because I think people who actually think that they´re too bright for religion are the dumbest, but right now I´m too tired for that.
I´ll leave you with the image of the eternal nothing after your death now...
good night :twisted:
Monstro
06 Dec 2006, 00:52
I´ll leave you with the image of the eternal nothing after your death now...
good night :twisted:
Wrong thing to say RJ, hold a discussion by all means but to damn someone for an opinion is wrong!!!!
Pudding
06 Dec 2006, 00:53
If it's an eternal nothing then there won't be any image will there? :lmao:
Some of the brightest minds on the planet are Atheist, probably because they've figured out how to live their life without being told to from some book. A book that was written over a couple of hundred years by some dodgy blokes wandering around in the desert.
Pud :twisted:
djfierce
06 Dec 2006, 01:02
Wrong thing to say RJ, hold a discussion by all means but to damn someone for an opinion is wrong!!!!
Pud didnt offer an opinion, just spiteful comments in the form of a statement.
I'm not religious but i won't judge anyone for being anymore than i expect them to judge me for not being
Pud didnt offer an opinion, just spiteful comments in the form of a statement.
I'm not religious but i won't judge anyone for being anymore than i expect them to judge me for not being
Well said and well said RJ And I'm not religious either!!
Monstro
06 Dec 2006, 01:12
Pud didnt offer an opinion, just spiteful comments in the form of a statement.
I'm not religious but i won't judge anyone for being anymore than i expect them to judge me for not being
I dont get that
Monstro
06 Dec 2006, 01:15
Or rather me and the whiskey dont get that, then again sober I'd probably have trouble
djfierce
06 Dec 2006, 01:17
I dont get that
what dont you get "religion is a big sack of knackers" "they're too stupid to figure it out for themselves" were written as statement.
Instead of offering the opinion I dont believe in any religion, and i hate people trying to get me to believe, which by the way i would totally agree with.
Just to head this one off before it descends into another row, and I've seen enough of those to last me to Christmas (next year). I'm never really sure wheer I stand on this issue, somedays I beleive, some not, but one thing I'll always remember is a comment once made by Prince Charles, when questioned as to why he'd chosen to go fishing on a SUnday morning rather than go to church at Balmoral ... I can pray while I'm fishing but I can't fish while I'm praying ... sort of sums up my thoughts on the organised religion thing anyway.
Monstro
06 Dec 2006, 01:27
what dont you get "religion is a big sack of knackers" "they're too stupid to figure it out for themselves" were written as statement.
Instead of offering the opinion I dont believe in any religion, and i hate people trying to get me to believe, which by the way i would totally agree with.
Ok, I'm lost, I agree with you but I don't know why so I give up.
Believe in yourself and your belief in others that both you an others can make a difference, you don't need a book to tell you what to do because it should come from the heart. We can all make a difference and we can all help others more unfortunate than ourselves.
Monstro
06 Dec 2006, 01:33
Ok, I'm lost, I agree with you but I don't know why so I give up.
Believe in yourself and your belief in others that both you an others can make a difference, you don't need a book to tell you what to do because it should come from the heart. We can all make a difference and we can all help others more unfortunate than ourselves.
Gospel according to whiskey and coke lol
djfierce
06 Dec 2006, 01:35
ok my final word on this so say what you want afterwards
SOME people believe there is a helping hand in there somewhere, i don't and you know why i don't if you care enough to remember what you know about me before calling me out.
It is a persons own private belief as to who has ultimate control over your life,i will never dump on anyone for what they believe,
Different people have different ideas as to what causes the things that happen, none of us will ever truly know.
Gospel according to whiskey and coke lol
Heathen! Blasphemer! The only thing you should put in a Whisky, is another Whisky to keep the first one company ;-) :cheers:
Monstro
06 Dec 2006, 01:39
It's blended, Malts and Irish are given the respect they deserve and treated accordingly lol
Well ok if it's cooking whisky then it's slightly forgiveable, presuming you pass the bottle here :lol:
Monstro
06 Dec 2006, 01:52
<<<<<passes the bottle
Rockette
06 Dec 2006, 02:09
what dont you get "religion is a big sack of knackers" "they're too stupid to figure it out for themselves" were written as statement.
Instead of offering the opinion I dont believe in any religion, and i hate people trying to get me to believe, which by the way i would totally agree with.
Erm; isn't that just a little bordering on what (I believe) organised religion does? That is, telling Pud (or anyone) what he should or should not say?
Statement or opinion are pretty much the same as I read it in this particular context ~ semantics really.
For the record, I don't believe in organised religion either. Self-responsibility is way too underrated these days.
Did I just agree with Pud? And djfierce? Please pass that bottle, Andy and Monstro. :?
Pudding
06 Dec 2006, 02:09
Pud didnt offer an opinion, just spiteful comments in the form of a statement.
I gave an opinion. I never said it was fact nor did I say people had to agree with me. And I know more spiteful people who follow religion than those that don't.
Pud :twisted:
RadioMaster
06 Dec 2006, 15:48
Like I posted before, Pud, you´re mixing religion and church up, which is a HUGE difference.
Here´s a statement someone told me some years ago and that will be MY last word on that.
If there´s a God and a judgement day and you dont believe, then you´ll go to hell forever till the end of eternity.
But if there´s no God, and you believe, and you´ll die and nothing happens, you believed in a nice little idea through your whole life, that might be wrong, but it wont hurt you, will it?
So, what´s wrong in believing?
Lord Kagan
06 Dec 2006, 15:53
We have nothing to lose in believing there is no god, but if were right you have everything to lose if there is no god. And at the same time IF there is a god isnt he supposed to be forgiving and accept us into the kingdom of heaven, Jesus said to enter the kingdom you must have the mind of a child, Nothing more.
Paul191
07 Dec 2006, 00:07
Now, how did I guess the thread would turn into one big debate about religion? Hmmm.;)
Now, how did I guess the thread would turn into one big debate about religion? Hmmm.;)
Because its on of the most entriguing (Sp?) aspects of our cultural diffrences (Or simliarities). Its amazing how much we rely on religion. If you know of Nietszche and his idea of the Will to Truth you'll unsdertand why "god is our most enduring lie" its a lie for survival. Amazing how although a lie it still allows for progression and is needed for our survival. Infact I am writing an essay on this type of thing which I have come up with my own theory for if anyone is intrested in readin it when its completed. I am one third complete.
Paul191
07 Dec 2006, 02:40
Because its on of the most entriguing (Sp?) aspects of our cultural diffrences (Or simliarities). Its amazing how much we rely on religion. If you know of Nietszche and his idea of the Will to Truth you'll unsdertand why "god is our most enduring lie" its a lie for survival. Amazing how although a lie it still allows for progression and is needed for our survival. Infact I am writing an essay on this type of thing which I have come up with my own theory for if anyone is intrested in readin it when its completed. I am one third complete.
LOL........ You missed my point. I made this thread for a joke....... I just knew it was a matter of time before it bacame a little more serious.;)
LOL........ You missed my point. I made this thread for a joke....... I just knew it was a matter of time before it bacame a little more serious.;)
I don't follow you...if you knew it will turn into something more serious...how did you start it as a joke?
Just curious...
Paul191
07 Dec 2006, 03:07
I don't follow you...if you knew it will turn into something more serious...how did you start it as a joke?
Just curious...
Time of curiousness is now over......... I will enlighten you:-
'Something More Serious' isn't exactly a bad thing is it? Since when has seriousness hurt anyone?
Hence, I made the thread in pure interest of where exactly it was going to lead. At no point did I mention arguements would be formed. I simply said serious debates are starting to form.
Rockette
07 Dec 2006, 03:25
:D Well, if God were one of us, I reckon about now God would be saying, "Fight you ******s! :cheer: I hate peace!" :lmao:
Was that frivolous enough?
Pudding
07 Dec 2006, 03:53
If God was one of us...then he'd be from Yorkshire and probably an Huddersfield Town supporter :mrgreen:
Pud :twisted:
Hypnobabe
07 Dec 2006, 12:56
If God was one of us...then he'd be from Yorkshire and probably an Huddersfield Town supporter :mrgreen:
Pud :twisted:
Hmmm... would that be originally from Yorkshire, currently living in New Zealand, by any chance?
If God was one of us, SHE'd definitely be a mother, she'd need omnipotent and omnipresent qualities to be able to keep up without going crackers!
If God was one of us...then he'd be from Yorkshire and probably an Huddersfield Town supporter :mrgreen:
Pud :twisted:
Well, Yorkshire is Land Of The Gods yes, but I doubt any deity would be into the level of self abuse that comes with being a Huddersfield Town supporter :))
Off-topic alert!
What's with Huddersfield Town???
Football is like a religion to many in this country Zina. In fact there is a scholl of thought that says it's more important than religion to many. Football followers are just as zealous and fanatical, if not more so, than many religious people.
And that town whatever...can't pronounce it...has a football team? Is that it?
Or football fanatics???
Huddersfield (pronounced ud-hearse-field) doe sindeed have a football team ... and it's fans are a deluded bunch, some of whom had to emigrate to New Zealand ;-)
Lord Kagan
07 Dec 2006, 16:55
Huddersfield (pronounced ud-hearse-field) doe sindeed have a football team ... and it's fans are a deluded bunch, some of whom had to emigrate to New Zealand ;-)
dont you mean and its FAN??
needmoremeat
07 Dec 2006, 17:53
I sometimes think the debate over women referees causes more controversy than the debate over women priests!:lol:
Pudding
07 Dec 2006, 23:46
Hmmm... would that be originally from Yorkshire, currently living in New Zealand, by any chance?
You presume I'm talking about myself, which I'm not. Yorkshire has often been referred to as 'Gods own County' ask anyone from Yorkshire and they'll probably agree :mrgreen: And if God was from Yorkshire then he'd probably be an Huddersfield Town supporter because they're the best team in Yorkshire.
Pud :twisted:
evil nickname
08 Dec 2006, 10:55
If there´s a God and a judgement day and you dont believe, then you´ll go to hell forever till the end of eternity.
But if there´s no God, and you believe, and you´ll die and nothing happens, you believed in a nice little idea through your whole life, that might be wrong, but it wont hurt you, will it?
So, what´s wrong in believing?
Pascal's Wager (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager). Bound to turn up sooner or later. Meh (http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/arguments.html#pascal).
If there's a god, and on the hypothetical judgement day he asks why I didn't believe in it, I'd like to blatantly rip off Bertrand Russell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell): "Not enough evidence."
Speaking of Russell, I like the conclusion of his essay "Why I Am Not a Christian (http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/russell0.htm)":
Religion is based, I think, primarily and mainly upon fear. It is partly the terror of the unknown and partly, as I have said, the wish to feel that you have a kind of elder brother who will stand by you in all your troubles and disputes....A good world needs knowledge, kindliness, and courage; it does not need a regretful hankering after the past or a fettering of the free intelligence by the words uttered long ago by ignorant men.
djfierce
08 Dec 2006, 14:27
Had no internet for a couple of days, could respond to responses to my post but can't be asked.
I don't believe in god for many many reasons, in some ways i respect religious folk and in some ways i shake my head at them, at the end of the day as long as they leave me to believe or not believe what i want then i will do the same with them, it doesn't bother me whether they sit in church on a sunday morning or like me sit and watch match of the day :lol: I will never insult their intelligence or question their motives, i just think there are alot worse things you can be in this world than just religious.
hmmm
Basic concept is that there are multiple relgigions, each one believes that non-believers will go to hell.
As you can't belong to more than one religion, everyone is therefore a non bveleiver to someone else and therefore everyone is going to hell regardless of what you believe.
evil nickname
08 Dec 2006, 15:10
That's a nice soundbite, but not necessarily true.
How, for one, could an all-loving deity send people to a place of eternal punishment?
Basic concept is that there are multiple relgigions, each one believes that non-believers will go to hell.
As you can't belong to more than one religion, everyone is therefore a non bveleiver to someone else and therefore everyone is going to hell regardless of what you believe.
How very true...and I for one certainly looking forward to it!!!
The Flying Mouse
08 Dec 2006, 15:54
Basic concept is that there are multiple relgigions, each one believes that non-believers will go to hell.
As you can't belong to more than one religion, everyone is therefore a non bveleiver to someone else and therefore everyone is going to hell regardless of what you believe.
:twisted: Well unlike you lot, I get to go to Valhalla :mrgreen:
There's a lot to be said for being ex Danish Merchant Navy 8) .
I'll spend eternity in the great dining hall munching on wild boar burgers, drinking beer from a rams horn, giving lots of young ladies haircuts by throwing big axes at them while they're tied to targets, and getting fresh with Brunhillde, queen of the Valkyries :p .
:twisted: Well unlike you lot, I get to go to Valhalla :mrgreen:
There's a lot to be said for being ex Danish Merchant Navy 8) .
I'll spend eternity in the great dining hall munching on wild boar burgers, drinking beer from a rams horn, giving lots of young ladies haircuts by throwing big axes at them while they're tied to targets, and getting fresh with Brunhillde, queen of the Valkyries :p .
And I think Brunhillde is MORE than you deserve!!! :-)
Lord Kagan
08 Dec 2006, 16:48
http://www.walnet.org/rosebud/cannabisgod.html
Very good song :D
Paul191
08 Dec 2006, 23:18
http://www.walnet.org/rosebud/cannabisgod.html
Very good song :D
:lmao: - Oh, and just realised........ My 1000 post!:D :mrgreen: :cheers: :shit:
Lord Kagan
08 Dec 2006, 23:35
Congrats then :p
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