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CarylB 27 Feb 2014 16:10

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Originally Posted by renegadeangel (Post 601378)
I really think we can count on that. If you get the chance check out the SIXX AM song SKIN and imagine Meat singing that. James Michael wrote it.

Yes, I'd have loved to hear what Meat could do with this song .. James Michael writes some superb stuff I think. I'd also have loved to hear Meat put his unique take and passion into Making Love Out of Nothing at All .. for me he synthesises "power" and "ballad" in a way no other can

Evil One 27 Feb 2014 16:29

That and Total Eclipse were supposed to appear on MATLAF but the record company weren't prepared to pay for them. I suspect if Meat was going to sing Making Love he would have by now.

I would love to hear him do it though. Bonnie Tyler's version was fantastic in spite of her vocals. :lol:

CarylB 27 Feb 2014 16:48

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 601417)
That and Total Eclipse were supposed to appear on MATLAF but the record company weren't prepared to pay for them. I suspect if Meat was going to sing Making Love he would have by now.

I know ... I don't expect to hear it, just said I would have loved to have done back when the possibility was there .. both of them in fact

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I would love to hear him do it though. Bonnie Tyler's version was fantastic in spite of her vocals. :lol:
Personally that's what turns me off her records

Evil Ernie 27 Feb 2014 17:39

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 601417)
I would love to hear him do it though. Bonnie Tyler's version was fantastic in spite of her vocals. :lol:

IMO that's her song.

Him doing TEOTH would be like her covering "Two Outta Three Ain't Bad".

AndrewG 27 Feb 2014 17:40

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 601417)
That and Total Eclipse were supposed to appear on MATLAF but the record company weren't prepared to pay for them. I suspect if Meat was going to sing Making Love he would have by now.

I would love to hear him do it though. Bonnie Tyler's version was fantastic in spite of her vocals. :lol:

Total Ecplise, Making Love, Safe Sex and It's all coming back to me now really seem like women songs to me. Sorry if that sounds degrading and sexist but staying in those kind of conventions in Steinman land these simply don't appear as songs that would be sung by men to me.

As these songs were quite successful in their own right by the original artists (or other covers) I see totally no point in Meat revisiting those. IACBTMN was a poor excuse to create a duet in my opinion.

AndrewG 27 Feb 2014 17:48

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Originally Posted by Evil Ernie (Post 601419)
IMO that's her song.

Him doing TEOTH would be like her covering "Two Outta Three Ain't Bad".

That was a mental cover.
It sounded like Steinman trying to make sense out of dance music, which was weird. But it was not as bad as Todd Rundgren's cover which is one of the worst things I've ever heard in my life.

TheDoode 27 Feb 2014 19:26

I wonder if PFL will be on the album? And if it is, will it be re-recorded and re-arranged/produced?

AndrewG 27 Feb 2014 19:30

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Originally Posted by TheDoode (Post 601424)
I wonder if PFL will be on the album? And if it is, will it be re-recorded and re-arranged/produced?

It doesn't need to be redone. It would be a wonderful surprise if it were included but it sounds like there may be too many songs already. Note not every song that is recorded always makes it onto an album.

TheDoode 27 Feb 2014 19:38

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Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 601425)
It doesn't need to be redone. It would be a wonderful surprise if it were included but it sounds like there may be too many songs already. Note not every song that is recorded always makes it onto an album.

Agreed, but I'd imagine it would be re-recorded if used, as the original - as great as it is - still has a little 'demo-ish' vibe about it. Like it's almost there, just pick up the vocal in the first verse and add some slightly heightened production to it. Besides, I'd imagine if it was included it'd need to fit in with the production of the rest of the album. I'm hoping for something really cohesive with this one.

Breeze 27 Feb 2014 22:55

I have always wanted Meat to cover " Vaults of Heaven". I also think a cover of a Zevon song would be great. In Zevon's album " life will kill ya" he has a song called " don't let us get sick".

"...[B]Don't let us get sick
don't let us get old
don't let us get stupid , all right?
just make us be brave
and make us play nice
and let us be together tonight...."[/B

It is a little closing song like " cry to heaven".


I think right now , Sailor to a Siren from the Blind album is GOLD just sitting in that album. It is one of my very favorites and it is sad to see it just sit in that album so long ago.
There are other songs I want to hear done, Souvenirs for one. Safe sex and several others are female songs. I do think songs have a gender. I recall the song " Original sin" was sung by a female. It was a great song but it begged for a male voice. Meat's cover of it was perfect.

TheDoode 27 Feb 2014 23:48

Personally, if you're talking Zevon, I prefer 'My Shit's F*cked up'.
But I really don't think Meat Loaf should record it :P

Breeze 28 Feb 2014 01:33

Correction, Sailor to Siren is on Bad Attitude album.
Warren zevon and Leonard Cohen are two of the other artists I will still spend money on.

Songs of zevon that I would like to hear Meat cover,
Mutineer, Genius, Searching for a heart, The envoy, Splendid Isolation.
As far as Cohen, any number of his songs are worthy.


I like Zevon's " My S*it F**ked Up" and "I'll sleep when I'm dead " too. doubt Meat sould want to cover them, but he did cover " lawyers , guns and money" and it was great.

renegadeangel 28 Feb 2014 03:20

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Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 601411)
Always thought Nikki Sixx & James Michael should have done a full album for Meat or perhaps contribute along side Paul Jacobs & Sarah Durkee. I think those sets of writers have provided my favourite non Jim Meat Loaf songs.

Remember hearing a snippet of DIST back in 2002 and got quite excited. The title track CHSIB I think is a superb song I wish Meat had done a bit longer live on the tours. I'd much rather hear it than say Pigs or Break It.

Couldn't agree more. But with SIXX AM doing so well I am actually surprised that James Michael is doing anything for anyone else right now. Paul Jacobs was the musical director for one of Jim's plays back in the day so I'm not surprised that he can write in the same vein as Jim does. MODERN GIRL is a great song.

Danny L 28 Feb 2014 19:43

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Originally Posted by Tina (Post 600870)
He wrote this today on Facebook:

Meat Loaf : WE might do 2 to 5 of shows in the UK in 2015, the O2, Manchester , and Edinburgh, Scotland . Before going to Poland and Russia. Then South America and do the " Last at bat tour in Australia. Also more shows in Vegas. The new album has 6 Jim Steinman songs on the Record, Total of 14 songs on the record. IT is a great record !!!! M

Erm... really?

SO EXCITED!!

Danny L 28 Feb 2014 20:17

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Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 600942)
BTW given the fact Stuart Beattie's "I, frankenstein" completely bombed at the cinema box office and got terrible reviews even with regards to HIS screenplay I think the chances of Bat out of Hell The Musical still happening are getting slimmer still.... (he was suppossed to be working on the book for the musical)

This musical seems to be stuck is a state of Development Hell! It was supposed to be written by Monty Python's Terry Jones (of all people, not a bad thing just unexpected), they had a whole team behind it, it was meant to open in London 2005 but all we know is 'Jim is working on it' and apparantly they're looking at a Broadway launch. Jim hasn't blogged since 2008, I know he's been unwell though.

I guess because it is supposed to be a huge show with motorcyclists etc an issue is finance, but reading about the premise and how it's been redone as a stageplay and screenplay several times over the years - it would be nice to hear the songs in a context that was truly intended by Steinman; this won't be YET ANOTHER 'jukebox musical'. . Unless Meat does a run as Hook or something no it won't be a Meat Loaf show, but it's still Bat Out of Hell by the original creator.

However there is a chance the show could potentially carry the legacy and bring it to a new audience - soundtrack albums, concept albums maybe a movie.

But back onto topic the album sounds mega exciting - even if it's 6 Jim songs we know done by Meat Loaf for the first time that would be amazing - especially after BAT 3.

AndrewG 28 Feb 2014 20:31

Good post Danny. Normally I always just like a post and think that is sufficient but just wanted to point out it sums up the stuff about Jim's musical quite well.

I agree 6 Jim songs or even if it is less sounds very exciting indeed.

lorenzoduke 01 Mar 2014 00:51

How about Desperadoes Under The Eaves or Nobody's In Love This Year for a closer?


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