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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
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Nice try.
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Try? :wtf:
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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
(Post 579371)
In neither of those quotes you've painstakingly taken out of context do I ask how Meat could vote for Romney - indeed, I say 'if only he had just voted for him'.
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Taken out of context?
I've read what you said, and posted the relevant parts to what I was asking.
You're obvious dislike for Romney is why I asked for clarification on weather it was the crandidate or or the endorcement itself that you didn't like.
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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
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I have also said I would feel the same regardless of who he was telling people to vote for. Apparently you chose to ignore that quote. What a surprise. :roll:
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Sorry, I must have overlooked that. No sarcasm required, I only asked you for a clarification.
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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
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I do not like the idea of Meat Loaf using his fame to tell people who to vote for. It divides fans and it is something he has never done before.
I do not like the idea of Meat Loaf using his fame to tell people who to vote for. It divides fans and it is something he has never done before.
I don't like the fact that he offered an unqualified endorsement, his first in 40 years, only to turn around the next day and say he disagrees with Romney on a number of key issues.
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Then it's the endorcement you have a problem with.
But I asked you weather it was the cadidate or the endorcement you didn't like, and you said you had not made either point.
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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
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I also never ask why Meat feels he is in a position to use his celebrity for an endorsement. Meat is in that position, clearly. I simply said I don't think he should and that it will (and has) divide his fans.
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So again, it's the endorcement itself you have the problem with, not the fact it was Romney endorced. This is all I asked you.
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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
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I have also said I find it disrespectful to tell people to argue with their family and friends rather than respecting their own opinions.
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Fair enough.
I don't think it's unusual for someone talking to a political crowd to urge them to fight their corner.
I also think it's normal that the crowd needs no telling. It's normal that the celebrity speaker will have pretty much 0 effect on the commitment to those he speaks too.
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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
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Once again, you ignore this, determined as you are to ignore everything I've said and push the agenda you've invented for me.
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:wtf:
I've asked you what your biggest issue was, and asked you to clarify, even when you've said the point you've made over and over is a point you've never made.
How can I invent an agenda for you when I have no idea what point you are trying to make?
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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
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You seem to have some sort of desperation to tell me what I think rather than listening to what I have said. I've explained my points clearly and concisely -
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And then gone back to say that you weren't saying it :wtf:
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Originally Posted by lorenzoduke
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I can't be bothered wasting further effort explaining.
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I'd say we'll agree to disagree, but I think we actually agree. It's hard to say because you said you weren't making the point I was agreeing with.
I'll settle for agreeing to disagree :lol: