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Pudding 01 Jul 2009 21:52

I don't see a problem with topics Meatgril is posting, I see a problem with people freaking out when the topics get discussed which ironically Meatgril is one of them.

Maybe people are only saying RIP Michael Jackson here because Meat Loaf mentioned he was saddened by the news and they feel they have to do the same to look good. I don't know, but if people really wanted to show respect towards Michael Jackson then they'd hop over to one of the numerous websites that allow you to give condolences or donate money to one of his charities. I might have it wrong and maybe one of the mods is going to send all the RIP messages over to a Jacko website where no one will ever read them. Maybe I need more coffee and a whole lot more sleep.

MeatGrl1 02 Jul 2009 01:30

Thank you Mike and Pudding :cool:.

MeatGrl1 02 Jul 2009 03:58

Michael is topping the Billboard charts;

http://i42.tinypic.com/2443bb4.jpg
Click image to get to the artical

May your music and legacy live on.

The Flying Mouse 02 Jul 2009 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by allrevvedup (Post 466161)
Is there a point where we start to go round in circles with the same thing repeated over and over?

:twisted: By special request......

clickety click :mrgreen:

sexyeyes_jo 02 Jul 2009 21:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadioMaster (Post 466156)
I agree with Andrew. This was partially what I meant with my initial post. Besindes pointless arguments, countless links, articles and videos certainly dont belong in a rip thread imo. And ending every post with 'rip michael' (no matter what size) wont change the fact that this is actually off topic.

i agree with you on this RJ, for someone who doesn't even like michael jackson they sure do like posting aload of crap about him, considering i've been a fan of mj's since i was 5 years old but even i wouldn't post crap about him on here, yeah i know emma has respect for the man but she doesn't have to post rip michael jackson everytime she post anything about him. some people on here me included saying hope rests in peace why don't people just let him do that or is it just me thinking that? :roll: (which is what i'm doing by the way thats why i haven't really posted anything on this thread)

Pudding 02 Jul 2009 21:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexyeyes_jo (Post 466270)
some people on here me included saying hope rests in peace why don't people just let him do that or is it just me thinking that?

Do you honestly think that he will rest in peace, really, in all honesty, do you think that will ever happen? Princess Di has been dead for 12 years and she's not resting in peace and she was less controversial. The media, his family and every man and his (or her) dog that ever had anything in the slightest to do with him have gone nucking futs :nuts:

Wario 02 Jul 2009 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 466272)
nucking futs

Oh I get :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I PEE PEE IN MY PANTS LMAO!!!

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

R.I.P MJ

MeatGrl1 02 Jul 2009 22:28

Cannot believe it's a whole week :(.


AndrewG 02 Jul 2009 22:42

The only interesting thing I've seen in the news about him over the last week kinda answered my question about if he was actually going to be ready for the shows: The rehearsal footage of his suppossedly upcoming shows looks pretty good imo. As if 13 years never passed. Apparently AEG are releasing this as a DVD/Blu Ray as the last few sessions were pro shot on Hi Def with proper staging and lighting.
What could have been eh?

sexyeyes_jo 02 Jul 2009 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 466272)
Do you honestly think that he will rest in peace, really, in all honesty, do you think that will ever happen? Princess Di has been dead for 12 years and she's not resting in peace and she was less controversial. The media, his family and every man and his (or her) dog that ever had anything in the slightest to do with him have gone nucking futs :nuts:

yeah i know everyone is going nuts and probably everyone is gonna come out of the woodwork now that he is dead probably after money but then again what else is new, its funny how all of a sudden his ex wife wanted nothing to do with his kids and now she wants custody of his kids but apparently i don't know if this is true but he is leaving his kids with diana ross

duke knooby 03 Jul 2009 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 466276)
Apparently AEG are releasing this as a DVD/Blu Ray as the last few sessions were pro shot on Hi Def with proper staging and lighting.

the sun have a clip of the rehersals on there site

AndrewG 03 Jul 2009 01:13

Yeah I'd seen it on TMZ earlier but the sun clip is better quality. Cheers.

Pudding 03 Jul 2009 06:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexyeyes_jo (Post 466278)
its funny how all of a sudden his ex wife wanted nothing to do with his kids and now she wants custody of his kids

That's probably because she knows she's been left sod all in his will, at least with having custody of the kids she'll be on a nice little earner. I'm surprised that none of his siblings were named as a potential guardian.

sexyeyes_jo 03 Jul 2009 17:31

[QUOTE=Pudding;466300]That's probably because she knows she's been left sod all in his will, at least with having custody of the kids she'll be on a nice little earner.

that wouldn't surprise me but his mum is trying to get custody of the kids but michael jackson has left in his will the kids to diana ross it just shows you what he really thought of his family and his ex wife

MeatGrl1 04 Jul 2009 00:50

Thought he said in the will that he left them to Katherine Jackson... His mum.
Like someone said to me don't believe everything the tabaloids print !

Pudding 04 Jul 2009 10:11

Yep, his 79 year old ma has the kids, then when she pops her clogs or is unable to look after them then they go to Diana Ross.

MeatGrl1 05 Jul 2009 02:23

If like me, you are absolutely appauled by OK! Magazine's front cover then please sign the petition to get it off our shelves;

Petiton

I just have, was absolutely livid when I first saw it !

AndrewG 05 Jul 2009 02:45

Yeah I saw that cover when someone pointed it out at work. It does seem tasteless as it states it is a "tribute" issue. Doesn't affect me personally as I never buy those trashy magazines anyway. If it was a petition to get rid of all the celebrity magazines and tabloids then I would gladly sign it.

MeatGrl1 05 Jul 2009 04:12

That's what totally appauled me too Andrew the fact that they have the absolute gaul to call it a tribute cover, look at the Now magazine tribute cover that I have (Lisa Marie features a bit in it that's why I got it) and it's a really good photo of Michael in concert and a nice way to remember him by, how would anyone at OK! like to walk into a shop and see their dying relative as the central figure on the front of a magazine, sure if the shoe was on the other foot they would all be up in arms so why then is Michael different ?!
I was livid when I saw it dread to think what the absolute die hard fans thought when they saw that !!

Outrage features very highly I would imagine and quite rightly so, what is wrong with using a pic from the O2 Press Conference, such as this one;


I would much rather look at a pic like this than when he's dying, and so it sits cover facing down on my desk instead !

Pudding 05 Jul 2009 06:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 466420)
the fact that they have the absolute gaul

What the hell has an ancient region of western Europe that included what is now northern Italy and France and Belgium and part of Germany and the Netherlands got to do with anything? If you're going to be appalled then at least use the correct spellings of words - it's gall

As for the petition it's a load of shit that will not achieve a single thing. Now if there was a petition to stop you posting a picture of Michael Jackson in every post then I'd more than gladly sign that.

CarylB 05 Jul 2009 11:23

OK published their tribute to Jade Goody, that sad, ill-educated and exploited product of the ghastly Big Brother machine, in the week before her death, apparently quoting her "last words". Will this latest nonsense affect OK adversely or will sales, just as when Jade died, simply rocket through the roof? As the magazine is on the shelves and being purchased .. let's face it Emma, you must have seen the cover, yet you still purchased it .. I suspect the latter, because most people (including his fans) simply don't and won't vote with their feet, and I don't see that an on-line petition will achieve its being removed from the shelves. If anything these things give more publicity, and may even help sales imo, and the magazine will simply laugh all the way to the bank.

Personally if OK, Hello etc each started sending me a free copy every week they'd go straight from my mailbox to the bin with all the other unsolicited junk that gets delivered. Like Andrew, were it a petition to get rid of all the celebrity magazines and tabloids I too would be tempted to sign it, but would probably resist as it wouldn't achieve anything.

Michael Jackson's lifestyle has caused controversy for the last quarter century, and sadly now he's died the media machine will ensure it continues because it sells and makes them money, simple as that, and that it happened in the run up to the O2 concerts only fuels the machine. The media handling and exploitation of his death must be thoroughly unpleasant for many of his family, but not unexpected I suspect as it was a pattern for so much of his life. I felt sorry for his children when he was alive, and feel sorry for them now .. not because of the cover of a trashy magazine, but because their future will no doubt be the subject of continuing controversy and media exploitation. Jackson will not be allowed to "Rest in Peace" as long as people buy and read what will continue to be written about him, but those unfortunate children should be allowed to live and grow up in it .. sadly I suspect they will have significant wealth but little else to give them a stable grounding.


Caryl

RadioMaster 05 Jul 2009 11:54

a day that will go down in history:

I agree with Caryl! :shock:

Monstro 05 Jul 2009 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 466412)
If like me, you are absolutely appauled by OK! Magazine's front cover then please sign the petition to get it off our shelves;

Petiton

I just have, was absolutely livid when I first saw it !

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 466420)
and so it sits cover facing down on my desk instead !

Am I getting the wrong end of the stick here, are you saying that you bought what you have signed a petition to get taken off the shelves?

MeatGrl1 05 Jul 2009 16:14

OK will try and answer without being contradictory though I think I've dug the hole too deep now to try and crawl out of it but yes I did buy it, I flicked through it and there were several pics of LMP, as some of you are aware I have been an Elvis fan since childhood so anything related or otherwise I buy it.
The whole principle of the cover still stands, I loath it and wish that they had used a totally different picture than the one that they have used.

CarylB 05 Jul 2009 18:00

And that's the thing isn't it .. you really strongly disapprove of the cover, yet because there was something in the magazine you wanted, you bought it .. and probably others who have signed the on-line petition have also purchased it, and there will be hundreds of thousands of others who don't sign it who have bought or will buy the magazine .. so what's the point of a petition? .. because I doubt a thousand or so names would ruffle OK's feathers or impact on its sales .. they regularly sell half a million or so each month.

The only way they'd be likely to change their way of operating is if the vast majority of their target group all voted with their feet and refused to buy it. Poor sales would perhaps make them think again .. sales will just encourage them to continue .. and as long as it sells, nothing short of some illegality is likely to have it taken off the shelves by OK, nor by the retailers who also make money from the sales.

I agree the cover is pretty tasteless .. but then I think most of what these celebrity magazines publish is intrusive, questionably accurate and tasteless anyway .. They don't make any money from me :) .. but people will doubtless continue to buy them .. and the more publicity they get, whether on or off the net, the better pleased they'll be imo.

Caryl

AndrewG 05 Jul 2009 18:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 466453)
And that's the thing isn't it .. you really strongly disapprove of the cover...

To be honest the way I see it and I REALLY do not mean this in a negative way to put anybody down, it seems to me at the moment Emma is SEEKING out anything that will offend her and let it do just that. Perhaps she doesn't have a lot else to do at the moment? It is so easy to be "offended" these days; "Look at me I am offended by this, you should all agree and if you don't then I am offended by that as well".

Michael Jackson was a great musical artist. Perhaps listening to his music is the best way to remember him rather than worrying about ANYTHING that ANYBODY writes about him??? I was listening to a lot of music yesterday as I was programming and a number of his songs came up and it just reminded me of how brilliant he was and why I was such a huge fan in the 90s. All this celebrity shit is a waste of time imo, just stop buying the magazines and being curious about what happens behind the scenes, just flippin' focus on the man's work.

No doubt this post will offend someone too. :roll:
I have apologised before for any of my posts in this thread which may have offended Emma but when I did that I did not receive any response and yet the seeking out things which may offend her seems to continue....

I'm sorry but this had to be said.

Wario 05 Jul 2009 20:50

Officially my most popular thread: onto the 6th page!!! :D:D:D

(RIP MJ)

Pudding 05 Jul 2009 22:55

These magazines for the most part are a load of shit anyway and anyone who gets easily offended by any photo or anything that gets written too seriously really needs to get out more.

If I'm going to put any effort into signing a petition then it'll be for something worthwhile like protecting children not a picture of a dead celebrity.

batcity 09 Jul 2009 22:59

For me, michael jackson was great... It came was a shock when he died BUT... after a few days of all this media coverage... I'm really not interested anymore... I never saw the memorial service and never will... because I'm sick of hearing about him.. there's solidiers dying on the frontline for their country and I really rather hear about them.. I'm smypathetic but come on people... get a life... I'm always outspoken now... and air my views whether people like it or not.. ain't going to say sorry for the comments because people should have the right to say what they think... sick of do gooders saying you can't say that... I already did!!!

Pudding 09 Jul 2009 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcity1 (Post 466791)
there's solidiers dying on the frontline for their country and I really rather hear about them..

Do you watch Fox News? as that's exactly what they said on Fox & Friends...spooky :shock:

batcity 09 Jul 2009 23:09

nope..

MeatGrl1 09 Jul 2009 23:15

OK! has redeemed it's self this week by having a lovely photo of Michael with his three children on the cover, so why they could not have done something like this for the 'tribute' issue I have no idea.

Also it's sadly two weeks today :(.

batcity 09 Jul 2009 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 466801)
OK! has redeemed it's self this week by having a lovely photo of Michael with his three children on the cover, so why they could not have done something like this for the 'tribute' issue I have no idea.

Also it's sadly two weeks today :(.

OH PLEASE GET A LIFE!!!

AndrewG 09 Jul 2009 23:22

Yikes, even I wouldn't have said that! :shock:

batcity 09 Jul 2009 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 466804)
Yikes, even I wouldn't have said that! :shock:

i did, its called having the bollocks to unload your views everyone dares not to go!!! Ha!!

MeatGrl1 09 Jul 2009 23:25

Markham,
I don't have to take this from you, please.
I respect Michael and I care, if you cannot appreciate that then please can you not respond to me. I am not wanting to fight or cause a rift, I am simply trying to keep Michael's memory alive though I can appreciate not everyone gives a damn which is very sad.
Please just leave me the hell alone !

Thank you

batcity 09 Jul 2009 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 466806)
Markham,
I don't have to take this from you, please.
I respect Michael and I care, if you cannot appreciate that then please can you not respond to me. I am not wanting to fight or cause a rift, I am simply trying to keep Michael's memory alive though I can appreciate not everyone gives a damn which is very sad.
Please just leave me the hell alone !

Thank you

Emma understand you're feeling sad and contemplating taking those asprins because you have an headache... but hey in the real world.... he's gone, never coming back, I wish people could think of those troops dying on the frontline for our country, rather than some star who dyed his colored face white to look like a white person, and had some many plastic surgeries, his face turned to plastacine... and he turned into MORPH!!, then he got into trouble for sleeping naked i believe with kids, I still believe that he payed off those kids to keep quiet he was a fruitloop, he shudda stayed the color he was... now this isnt about race, creed or color. not denying his music was great... but thats it... sick of hearing tv coverage after tv coverage... you pick up a newspaper, jacko this, jacko that.. for what for saddo's to put picture on this thread of him... we see him everytime we open a ruddy bewspaperdon't wanna hear it...look I'm talking from the voice of reason... read something real news!!! I'm not going to apologise because i'm real sick of people saying this is a governed state and we can't say what we want to say... well i just did... get into the real world

Pudding 09 Jul 2009 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcity1 (Post 466805)
i did, its called having the bollocks to unload your views everyone dares not to go!!! Ha!!

Total respect for the big gonads :up:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 466806)
I am simply trying to keep Michael's memory alive

Why is it important you keep his memory alive on a Meat Loaf forum? Was he a secret member of The Neverland Express?

batcity 09 Jul 2009 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 466810)
Total respect for the big gonads :up:



Why is it important you keep his memory alive on a Meat Loaf forum? Was he a secret member of The Neverland Express?

Neverland!!! (I think he got the wrong site)

But neverland on this site is for grown ups rated 18

batcity 09 Jul 2009 23:53

That'll cause a stir, lets have some comments!!

MeatGrl1 09 Jul 2009 23:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcity1 (Post 466809)
Emma understand you're feeling sad and contemplating taking those asprins because you have an headache... but hey in the real world.... he's gone, never coming back, I wish people could think of those troops dying on the frontline for our country, rather than some star who dyed his colored face white to look like a white person, and had some many plastic surgeries, his face turned to plastacine... and he turned into MORPH!!, then he got into trouble for sleeping naked i believe with kids, I still believe that he payed off those kids to keep quiet he was a fruitloop, he shudda stayed the color he was... now this isnt about race, creed or color. not denying his music was great... but thats it... sick of hearing tv coverage after tv coverage... you pick up a newspaper, jacko this, jacko that.. for what for saddo's to put picture on this thread of him... we see him everytime we open a ruddy bewspaperdon't wanna hear it...look I'm talking from the voice of reason... read something real news!!! I'm not going to apologise because i'm real sick of people saying this is a governed state and we can't say what we want to say... well i just did... get into the real world

OK this is probably not appropriate in a condolence thread and mabe you don't care.. Fine.
But let me just say, Michael's father was mean to him as a kid and he grew up despising him, and in the early 80's he was diagnosed with a skin condidtion that changes the colour of his skin, he's also said that he didn't want to grow up looking like his father after what he had done to him. Yes he helped the process on a bit, that's why he never wore short sleeves on tour. The plasters on his fingers were also to cover up the disease. He changed his features so that he wouldn't end up looking like his father.
Not that you give a flying monkeys, you just want to judge him and to the other issue, yes I care about those fighting but as this is a thread of CONDOLENCE TO MICHAEL JACKSON then I think talking about him here is very much on topic.

Pudding 10 Jul 2009 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by MeatGrl1 (Post 466815)
this is a thread of CONDOLENCE TO MICHAEL JACKSON

To which you have have given your condolences several several times :roll:

batcity 10 Jul 2009 00:12

Edit: Offensive content removed.

SamCat 10 Jul 2009 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcity1 (Post 466814)
That'll cause a stir, lets have some comments!!

Would you like me to send you the link to the blog you wrote on FaceBook on the 26th of June saying what a great entertainer, a great singer and devoted father he was and how you shed a tear that day!!
I especially like the bit at the end where you say
"Thank you for all the joy you have brought into my life and other people's life!!"

Pudding 10 Jul 2009 00:24

:lurk:

Monstro 10 Jul 2009 00:25

Edit: Quotes questioning offensive content above removed.

batcity 10 Jul 2009 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by SamCat (Post 466824)
Would you like me to send you the link to the blog you wrote on FaceBook on the 26th of June saying what a great entertainer, a great singer and devoted father he was and how you shed a tear that day!!
I especially like the bit at the end where you say
"Thank you for all the joy you have brought into my life and other people's life!!"

Man I got a stalker...yeah sure, I said stuff satimng it was a shock and he's a family man and that his music will live on, thats was then how i said brought a tear to my eye, ( go you ever read my blogs they are sometimes tongue and cheek) and this is now... its was sad for few days then i got to realize that everywhere you go its jacko this and jacko that, and I just dont need to read about him anymore.. in the news and on the internet anywhere... let him have some sleep!!! stop digging him up

if its makes you feel better and you think you got one over me go for it... I just laugg at people who think they got one over on me..... I feel everyone should read my blogs on facebook, because thye are bigger than michael jackson ever was and I got a fans of my blogs!!! go for it....

I will let you copy extracts from my blog (kind permission of SRBN)

SamCat 10 Jul 2009 00:27

Markham you really need to edit that you've made a really bad typo!!

batcity 10 Jul 2009 00:31

Edit: More offensive content removed.

duke knooby 10 Jul 2009 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcity1 (Post 466814)
That'll cause a stir, lets have some comments!!

you're being a dick

batcity 10 Jul 2009 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke knooby (Post 466830)
you're being a dick

yeah but hey least i got one!!!

duke knooby 10 Jul 2009 00:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcity1 (Post 466831)
yeah i know... getting tired of going over the same old ground to someone, who cant respect that people have their individual opnions!!!

was just voicing my opinion..

SamCat 10 Jul 2009 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcity1 (Post 466827)
Man I got a stalker...yeah sure, I said stuff satimng it was a shock and he's a family man and that his music will live on, thats was then how i said brought a tear to my eye, ( go you ever read my blogs they are sometimes tongue and cheek) and this is now... its was sad for few days then i got to realize that everywhere you go its jacko this and jacko that, and I just dont need to read about him anymore.. in the news and on the internet anywhere... let him have some sleep!!! stop digging him up

if its makes you feel better and you think you got one over me go for it... I just laugg at people who think they got one over on me..... I feel everyone should read my blogs on facebook, because thye are bigger than michael jackson ever was and I got a fans of my blogs!!! go for it....

I will let you copy extracts from my blog (kind permission of SRBN)

Stalker yeah sure!! I read your blogs for the same reason i watch Life on Mars to laugh at the bad old days before most of the human race realised that a certain amount of pc and humanity makes the world a happier place!!

batcity 10 Jul 2009 00:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by duke knooby (Post 466837)
was just voicing my opinion..

thats good then, bit of negivity... never get this on facebook...

duke knooby 10 Jul 2009 00:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by batcity1 (Post 466839)
thats good then, bit of negivity... never get this on facebook...

what??? bad spelling??? ;)

suppose this should go back on topic sometime... eventually

Pudding 10 Jul 2009 00:46

Can we all just agree that Michael Jackson is dead and he aint ever coming back to life. To a greater or lesser degree people have said their condolences, some several times. He means something some people and not much to others. However, this is a Meat Loaf forum and there's plenty of nutty sites out there (and I mean really out there :nuts:) dedicated to the death of Michael Jackson and every nugget of bullshit surrounding it.

I aint a mod, but I can see this thread getting a :lock: on it.

batcity 10 Jul 2009 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pudding (Post 466841)
Can we all just agree that Michael Jackson is dead and he aint ever coming back to life. To a greater or lesser degree people have said their condolences, some several times. He means something some people and not much to others. However, this is a Meat Loaf forum and there's plenty of nutty sites out there (and I mean really out there :nuts:) dedicated to the death of Michael Jackson and every nugget of bullshit surrounding it.

I aint a mod, but I can see this thread getting a :lock: on it.

well said .. another voice of the people!!!

AndrewG 10 Jul 2009 02:39

This thread should have been locked a long time ago even before I got a chance to upset people here.

AndyK 10 Jul 2009 10:21

I agree with those of you who think that this thread has run it's course now.

The Mod team can't be here all the time every day, so it's inevitable that things will be said that push a thread over the line from time to time.


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