I agree with both Musicman and Pud

Steve Buslowe, Pat Thrall etc have all had their time in the Neverland Express and all gone on to different things. Why shouldn't Patti be any different, especially when she has the fantastic talent that she does. The way some are talking it's like someone has died.

It's been rumoured for ages about her doing an album, maybe finally she will be able to.

Good luck to her she deserves the success that she gets in the future.

A recent RVM magazine interview gave a very interesting version of how Buslowe and others left the band.

I just hope any parting was amicable in the Patti case.

When it's a band with no 'Artist' and people leave then more of a fuss is made over it and rightly so because generally the success the band has acheived has been worked at together.

When it's an 'Artist' no one really notices that much about the line up other then the star performer (the one the fans really go to see)

I mean, Sheryl Crow was a backing singer/dancer for Michael Jackson on the BAD tour and there was no clamour, from his fans, for her to remain with his backing group whenever she left.

Sometimes performers can get complacent. I'm sure Ms Russo loves singing with Meat Loaf and the reaction that it brings, but at the same time singing the same songs 500 times, the same way, can make people want another challenge.

She'll survive, Meat Loaf will survive.

YouTube Video

Very sad to hear this news but wish Patti all the very best for her future projects.

I met Patti at the SECC and she was just fab!!

Such a talent on stage...........oh why:( :shock:

Patti has left the band..... wondering who else???????????

What makes you think others have left?

I don't know... patti has left, perhaps meat starts all over again??? just thinking, nothing heard, or seen somewhere!!! So NO rumour, just thinking!!!!!

Hey thats ok! I just wondered thats all :D
I still can't believe patti's left :(

neither do i Leah, but knowing meat, he will find somebody who can do the job!!!! And Patti has been performing for such a long time with him, that it's difficult for us te see somebody else performing at RAH. But what ever happens at RAH .... as beeing a fan, i will be openminded to the new one! It's not fair and not done to say now: she will not be good enough! She won't be Patti, there's just one Patti!

Well, this is all that I wanted to say...sending e-mail "I've left the band" will call for all kinds of rumors and speculations...especially seeing how this is a fan forum and open for discussion.

I just wish that this kind of announcement was made in a more professional and informative way...AFTER things were thought through...maybe an official announcement...maybe saying farewell at Albert Hall...that's all...

At the end of the day I am not blaming anybody and wishing everybody lots of luck...

i agree mszee, and i think that all the fans wish they could say goodbye to Patti in a more personal way. Thats i think the big shock to a lot of us.

The rumours and speculation were rife before Patti's e-mail. Patti should not have had to do it but she was right to let us know ... as you say why was there no official comment? Professional announcements should be the work of the management involved and not Patti's responsibility. Maybe they were hoping everyone turned up to the RAH and realised then thereby reducing the fuss.

I'm very suspicious. Patti was relegated to a lesser song on the album.

I met a number of people on the last tour who felt Patti had carried many of the vocals. Whatever the view it will never be the same again.

Meat's Bat III song choice is perfect ....

"The future ain't what it used to be"

Mike

In some ways I agree with Pud, and some others here. Sure Patti was good, really good, but Meat has had other singing partners in the past, and they have left also, life does go on. Maybe this wasn't geat timing, but if Meat didn't have anyone lined up for RAH, don't ya think he would have asked Patti to stay for at least that concert. People come and go all the time, this isn't anything new, and the reason for her leaving is personal, it could have come to some point in Patti's life, that she may want to settle down at home abit, not all this extensive, tiring touring. And an official announcement to us won't change anything either. This is a Meat Loaf album, and coming tour. The only people who really know Patti, are real Meat fans, alot of Joe public, just see her as the girl who Meat Loaf sings with, so an announcement means nothing really. Maybe she has decided it's time for her to spread her wings, and do her own thing.

All the best Patti, and good luck in the future.

thing is tho. singers and band members have come and gone. alot of them never really going on to anything overly major, they just kinda slip away. The fans and the public knew patti, but not as the girl Meat sings with. They knew her for her outstanding voice and talent. joe public will know when shes not there, if they cant see it they will hear it. i tell you. i think alot of public people will be shocked

I agree. Patti is a phenomenal talent. And I wish her only success and happiness. She deserves it.

But this still breaks my (selfish) heart.

Love you, Patti...xo

Obviously very sad news, but you guys have left me a little confused, I must say...

I truely don't understand this "who's to blame?!", "how could she do this to us?" attitude?? Patti's been amazing with Meat and it's gonna take one hell of a woman to step up to the mark, but at the end of the day it's a career move whether we like it or not - how many people get a job and stick with it until their dying day?! A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do, and this obviously is what's right for Patti at this time in her life.

Patti, thank you for an unforgettable 13 years and i wish you every happiness!

But Joe Public don't really know her that well, because she hasn't really had the chance to shine on her own, and put that voice to really good use. You mention the name Patti Russo to a non Meat fan, they will go "who"?

Maybe she wants to do her own thing at last and now is the time to do it. :D

thank you for the link :)

didn't Pat Thrall leave without a word as well Eva?... the first NLE i knew was... Steve & Pat... i remember when my husband saw the new incarnation of NLE he asked even though he's far from a Meat fan.. "where's my boy?".. meaning Pat... he really liked him....

and i agree with you Eva.. this may be new for Meat and Patti and they may be discussing behind the scenes how to deal with it.. i see Meat's already been here today a couple times... and that's early in the morning whereEVER he is... East or West USA coast.. as i'm assuming he's back in the States... my other thought on it is... wasn't it announced that there would be special surprise guests at RAH...?.. here's hoping that it WILL be Patti... so she can be given the proper send off she deserves...

i can't for the life of me think who could fill her shoes.. she's magnificent and perfect playing off Meat... but... i trust in Meat.. so ... there ya go.. i'll wait and see how it all plays out...

best of luck to Patti... hope she'll release a cd... i think she's great...

t...

I have to say that I'm a little bit irritated about the direction this thread is taking and Lucy's post below sums everything up pretty good for me:

For me it seems very wrong for anyone to be making assumptions, and no-one should be demanding official statements for something which, like it or not, is none of our business.

I agree. To all three comments.

It's a strange day, I never thought that Lucy would be the rolemodel for us all (love ya really! ;) ) - but that day has come! She says the truth!

I'll look forward to seeing what Patti's gets involved in and of course, who the 'next Patti' is. As she'll always be Meat's backing singer whom all others are compared with. :)

I couldn't disagree more. I think most people who want Patti back are thinking of Meat Loaf without Patti Russo. I can't even begin to imagine how much this is going to affect the group, because with as big a fanbase as Patti Russo has gotten, I guarantee you once the news gets around, sales of Meat's concerts will fall off pretty drastically, as well as CD sales. If in fact this is a career move on Patti's part, then more power to her. She deserves a great future. However, someone at Meat's camp should've made a public statement stating how Patti has decided to move on. Perhaps this would've helped the fans in dealing with the issue that Patti will no longer be in the group. As it stands now alot of fans will be speculating on why Patti has actually decided to leave, and once the shock sets in, many may decide not to follow a Meat group that doesn't include Patti. I, for one, have already decided I no longer have a "need" to see Meat in concert...not without Patti anyway. The duets are just too big a part of the show, and Patti was his perfect partner, regardless of who is picked to replace her, the experience will never be the same...Like I said, Patti has a fanbase now and with her leaving, I'm sure alot of the fans will leave with her. The Meat Loaf experience will NEVER be the same without Patti Russo. Good luck Patti, and good luck to you too Meat...I know this won't be easy, especially with the Bat 3 release coming soon, followed by the Bat 3 tour. I really wish you both the best.

Very true, however, many fans will go on without Meat as well...It's sad really. :(

what's sad?.. that Meat fans will go on without Meat???... that WOULD be sad... for them... and rather unusual .. for .. well... Meat fans ! ...;) ... imo.. if you enjoy the music Meat sings... and seeing him in concert... you'll continue to buy the music and see the shows... right?

And to those of us who RE-discovered Meat BECAUSE of Patti and found Patti to be just as important to the group as Meat (and I'm sure there are plenty of us here), the band called "Meat Loaf" has just played its final concert. Like I said before...it's sad. :(

Meat Loaf fans are not going to give up on him on the basis that is backing singer left

But the whole point is that "Meat Loaf" are not a band - it's Meat Loaf with the NLE, always has been

True, Meat has his fans, and the band have their fans too. I love Meat, but now is when I discover that it was the Meat experience I loved...the chemistry with Meat and Patti on the stage. No one, I repeat NO ONE can replace Patti when it comes to that experience. This is why I'll continue to listen to Meat Loaf, but have no interest in ever seeing another of his concerts. The "experience" is over for me.

So was you going to see a Patti Russo concert. And cd sales fall, WTH?????

People buy Meat albums because of the name on the front MEAT LOAF, Patti was only on Meat albums since 1993, backing on Bat 2, on a few tracks on WTTN and CHSIB. Was she on Bat 1, er no, on dead Ringer, erm, don't think so, and they sold by the bucketloads. It is sad she is gone, I am as gutted as the rest, but it's not the end of the world, or the end of Meat Loaf, and Meat's camp doesn't have to respond to anything related to Patti, it's Meat's managment, not Patti's.

Case in point...When Meat first came on the scene, wasn't he great with Carla? Now, who remembers his road tour partner, I don't even know her name...the one who looked like Tim Curry?

Not the end of the world, just the end of "meat Loaf" for me...I'm sure others agree with you and that's fine, I hope Meat continues on with a great career...it's just that for people like me who saw Meat and Patti and the chemistry they had together on stage, it's all over now. Life moves on...to those who are fans of Meat and Meat alone, you can all move on with him. Unlike many who feel Meat is nobody without Steinman, I've always felt Steinman's best contributions were in the past...Life without Steinman can continue because Meat will always have his past songs to sing, but life without Patti (to me) means no more Meat experience on the stage!

[QUOTE=TravisWRedfish;263482. I, for one, have already decided I no longer have a "need" to see Meat in concert...not without Patti anyway. The duets are just too big a part of the show, and Patti was his perfect partner, regardless of who is picked to replace her, the experience will never be the same...Like I said, Patti has a fanbase now and with her leaving, I'm sure alot of the fans will leave with her. The Meat Loaf experience will NEVER be the same without Patti Russo. Good luck Patti, and good luck to you too Meat...I know this won't be easy, especially with the Bat 3 release coming soon, followed by the Bat 3 tour. I really wish you both the best.[/QUOTE]


I totally agree! I will also leave with her! Without her the concerts are not the same! i hope she has the chance to make HER dreams come true!

But Meat has always had the chemistry with all his female singing partners, even the Tim Curry looking one, and I am sure he will find another great singing partner. Just seeing Meat live, makes my night for me. :D

An excellent summary. That's exactly why a statement is necessary. Sorry R. but why we shouldn't have a statement when Patti has been so much a part of building this incredible journey since Bat II. Fans do matter, this is a Fan Club and Patti is very much part of our Community because she is SPECIAL to us.

If it's to further her career then we wish her every success but heaven help the theatrical and vocal contribution to the show, I think a few people have underated how immense that contribution is.

No one is telling anyone what to do, the powers that be can refuse to say anything if they wish (probably will), that's their choice but they should know what people feel. It's stunning because of Patti's amazing contribution to Meat's concerts.

Mike

I love Meat.

But Patti was a "duet partner", not a backup singer as such.

Concerts will continue to include "Paradise" and "Anything For Love", and Patti was integral to the live versions of those songs. A lesser partner will detract from Meat's performance. For such a little girl, Patti is leaving huge shoes to fill.

I wish them both continued success and happiness. But "no Patti" on stage will, for me, take away enough from the show that I cannot justify spending the $$$ for concert tx.

and that is not meant in any way as an insult to Meat.

CHSIB!

So, for those who are still Meat fans but are no longer seeing shows due to no Patti...are we not supporting, or at least giving a chance to, whoever steps in?

Damn...

All the best Patti.

i know you're not addressing me Lucy as i'll continue to see Meat in concert... but.. i agree... it's not even known yet who will be Meat's new partner in Paradise... already some are not accepting... imo.. we're all in a bit of shock right now... and just expressing how we're feeling... as it begins to sink in... and fans go to see the RAH... and bring back reports and the like.. perhaps then...

imo.. Patti would wish luck to whomever it is filling her role in the band..

t...

:twisted: I for one DO wish Pattis replacment all the best.

They have very big shoes to fill, and we owe it to them to give them a chance.

I imagine it's also pretty intimadating to take over from someone who has been a firm fan favourite for thirteen years.


I can handle Patti leaving the band.
She is a fantastic talent, and, as anyone who has met her will probably tell you, a warm and wonderful person.

Although i'm saddend to see her go, perhaps this will be a new start for her, and she can concentrate on her own career.

I hope she finds her own independent success.

What I don't like, is the way her leaving has been handled.

She's been with us for thirteen years.
Did nobody think that we would care?


I get the feeling that if it wasn't for the romour that started (which prompted Patti to send that e mail), we would have all turned up at the RAH fully expection to see Patti there.

Now I will not be selling my ticket.
I'm foremost a Meat Loaf fan, but i'm bitterly unhappy that Patti either couldn't or wouldn't come to say goodbye at a show we had all expected to see her at.

selling my ticket? no way!!! i love meat loaf, and the the band! I'm sorry that patti has gone but life goes on! she's not dead!!!!!!!

considering I usually have to travel 4 to 5 hours to the nearest Meat concerts it pretty much hurts my interest too. Just being honest, she was a big draw & it hurts to lose her. I don't blame her though, maybe she got some offer she couldn't pass up. I hope so.

That post is for me the quintessence of the whole thing. Patti is gone, that´s a sad day, but Meat is still great and life goes on!
Hey, we should be happy anyway, we´ve got Bat3 and the RAH, at least me makes that happy :))

ow.... that just sucks big time... And that for the last tour and album. Very bad... but still.. .who knows what has happened and what will happen. It is her choice... to bad.. she knows what she is going to mis.

She was great.. will mis her! Good Luck patty

We don't know that it was her choice. No one has said why she's no longer in the band, but we do know that whether it was her choice or not, that has yet to be determined.

I thought you were not going to RAH? Are you now?

No I´m not (I wish I was btw), but 1) i spoke in general and 2) I will see it on dvd later:))

Thank you for posting that Eva.
This has hit me like a ton of bricks to be honest. There are not many female vocallists whose voices I actually really like, but Patti is the exception to that. Plus, as I'm still so young, I don't really remember any of the other singers so much as I've grown up watching Patti on TV doing live performances and such with Meat.
I am very glad that I had the chance to see her live with Meat and the rest of the NLE in 2004. That wasn't just a concert, it was a SHOW, and one of the best I've ever seen. I loved the way they acted up together on stage and the sound of their voices together. It's a shame that I now won't get a chance to experience that again, but if it's for the best then so be it.

While I'm very sad that Patti has left, I'm first and foremost a Meat Loaf fan, and I will be supporting him whatever happens. All you people who are saying you'll give up now - well how nice of you, I can imagine Meat will be oh-so-happy to hear his so called 'fans' saying that.
Patti, if you're reading this, all the best for the future. Will miss seeing you with Meat, but I hope everything goes well for you and you are happy in whatever you're doing next.

Patti is a fantastic singer & a wonderful person. I am very, very sad to see her go:(

However, I'm a huge Meat Loaf fan & Patti leaving the band will not change my feelings towards Meat at all. My loyalty is 100% with Meat.

I have every faith in Meat's ability to choose his next 'leading lady' - there must be some other women out there who are amazing singers & have that special on stage spark with Meat, that spark we all long to see!

I imagine, that when Meat was first about to start working with Patti, fans were saying 'oh she won't live up to the ladies that Meat has sung with before.' And just look how it turned out!! So please let's give the new lady a chance.

Heather x

Of course you can compare it. Steve Buslowe was Meat's best bass player, he had a hell of a lot style on stage and was in my opinion a better musical director than Kasim. Eva is right. Nobody knows why Steve has left the band.
AND: Patti, i will miss you too, you were a hell of a good singer and performer and I'll never EVER forget Zurich 1994.

[QUOTE=mszee;263320]This is somewhat strange comment to what I was trying to say...

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You can't compare Patti's departure with that of Steven Buslow, I am sorry...

I'm sure she does. I do as well.

me either, I love Meat.

I'm not quite sure who said they were "giving up on Meat". I didn't, and I'm not. I have Bat 3 on pre-order, and will buy any new music he releases.

The concert issue, for me, comes down to personal preference. Tickets and travel are luxury items my budget rarely allows. I would rather treasure the memory of the show I was fortunate enough to see during the HOTD tour, than strain my budget for something that I personally would not enjoy as much.

It's the "end of an era". Just as those who saw Meat and Karla perform live together will always have a "special" memory that fans who saw only later concerts missed out on. Totally different "stage experiences". That is no disrespect to Meat, Karla, or Patti.

I hope the Bat 3 tour is a huge success for Meat.

I'll be looking forward to the photos and stories from the shows, as always.

WTF!!!

I cant believe Patti has left the band!!! This is such a great sadness!! Such a fantastic musician and performer....she will be very grately missed!!

Good Luck Patti!!!

But like the saying goes the show must go on and I am sure Bat III tour is going to kick some ass!!! Rock on meat!

Ross :(

Agreed. She has been around so long and added so much. Like you I mean no slight to Meat or the other band members. But with cash tight for me, it honestly will affect my decision to travel 4-5 hours each way plus hotel, etc. It just does, maybe it is just me and maybe I just can't explain it to anyone else and that's fine. She was a valuable part of the experience to a lot of people. I have some questions I won't raise here, but a lot of us have them.

I've been puzzling over the Patti situation for 24 hours now. It doesn't make sense. One of two things must have happened: either Patti chose to leave or she was told to leave. Now, no one with half a brain would fire the main singer (after Meat, obviously) 4 weeks before a major gig like RAH. So she must have quit. For whatever reason, be it personal reason or as a career move, I sincerely hope it works out for her and, like others here, will continue to follow Patti and her career closely, and wish her all the joy and success possible.

Based on the premise that Patti chose to leave, it appears to have been a sudden departure. If it was a planned departure, there would have been an official announcement made, logically, so that the current uproar was avoided. And I can't imagine Patti letting her fans down in the way she has, voluntarily. There's something fishy going on here. Also, Meat on the XM radio show... he gave no indication whatsoever that this was in the wind, so I'm thinking it might have been a surprise to him. I'm listening and relistening to his intro to What About Love, trying to pick up if there's anything there that indicates he knew. Sometimes I think there is, other listens it seems there isn't.

That said, rumour has been going strong for weeks that Patti was leaving. There is also a rumour about that Paul Crook is leaving as well. And there is also meant to be a NYC show for Bat Out Of Broadway... oddly, .net doesn't list that as a show. This is strange.

I'm all in favour of only telling people what they need to know, but there are times, and this is one of them, where a little more information is required. I (and the rest of us) appreciate that Eva passed on the email from Patti and let us know what was happening. An official statement from somewhere would assist greatly right now in reducing any potential negative impact on fans of Meat and Patti, and all.

Erm, seeing this post is so long, I'm charging 5c instead of 2c. :D

OK I am still coming to terms with Patti leaving and now this...!
Will the heartbreak never end?

This does not mean anything IMO as the RAH concert only appeared on the tour list as soon as ticket sales were announced (RAH had been rumoured for about 2 months prior to that going back to an interview with Marion Raven in July). Therefore the NY show will probably only appear on there in the next few weeks.

Why are you worrying about the NYC show? Thought you were going to RAH?

While there are some strange things going on, no one is dead (yet), so how about saving the OTT emotion until we know what's going on?

Edit to answer Musicman: Maybe it means nothing... I'm a crazed conspiracy theorist, though, remember :lol:

That's just preference. I can say you can't compare anyone leaving the group to Patti's departure because all Meat Loaf duets will never be the same again. Anyone can play an instrument and the average Joe won't notice someone else playing it, not true of a singer.

Ahhhhh.... yeeeaaaahhhh. :roll:

You know there are quite a few people that couldn't care less if it was Meat or Rob Evans or some other hired gun singing Jim's words with Marghoshes / Roy Bittan / Jeff Bova on the keys...

I'm looking forward to some fresh sounds with whichever vocalists Meat takes on tour with him on this occasion, and will keep track of what musical goodies Patti gets up to in future as well.

I can not believe Patti has left the band :(. She is so cool! Hearing Patti in the Comic Relief Concert on Radio 2 back in 1999, was what really made get in to Meat Loaf. And in 2003, when I actually got my parents to take me to a Meat Loaf concert, I couldn't believe how good she sang with Meat loaf. Unbelievable.
I wish Patti all the best for the future. Good Luck!
Rugby xx

Patti - sad to hear you're leaving, you've been absolutely fantastic. All the best for whatever you're going to do next.

You couldn't have sung it better.

Simon.

Very sad news, the best female singer meat has every worked with in my opinion.
Goodbye Patti, good luck with everything!

i didn't see Musicman's post as his worrying nor over the top... just iho... what he thinks...

but i find your portion of post "no one is dead (yet)" rather other the top... no?... ;) ...

do not panic... do not jump ... ;) ...

you know.. i got thinking about this.. and discussing it with my husband.. okay.. he was surfing the telly and i was telling him.. "something of no interest to you but...".. lol... let's see... Bat1... Ellen sings on Paradise... Karla does the tour... Bat2... Mrs Loud.. is it?.. is that Lorraine Crosby?.. sings AFL.. Patti does the tour... since Bat1 came out there's been about 5? different partners singing with Meat?.. i can't name them.. i just see them in old videos...

just thoughts.. yes we all love and admire Patti...she's a GREAT talent... but... imo...we must learn to live with and support the changes that come along ... i think just since Bat2 there's been three changes band-wise no?..

i don't know.. just.. thinking "aloud" if you will...

t...

If you think of it this way, if Meat decided, that he wasn't going to tour anymore, you wouldn't have seen Patti perform anyway. Changes happen, it is sad, but it happens, Meat's band has gone through alot of changes in the years, and the only reamining member, to stick with him all these years is Kasim, and I don't think he has played on all of Meat's tours. :D

John has been with him since the mid/late 80's, so has Mark (although Mark briefly left in 98 but came back). So there are other band members who have been in it for the long haul as well as Kasim. Kasim is, however, someone who has been around, off and on, since the beginning of the Bat though!

Jen S.

How sad this news is, I must be greatfull that I had the chance to see such a great singer and person.

Patti thank you for everything you gave us. We will miss you but I wish you all the best for the future.

Marianne.

What a sad day:(

Meat fans care ;)

and there are millions of them/us. :cool:

this is not about "Patti VS. Meat", and should not be about "Meat VS. Steinman".

***

It doesn't have to be "either-or". I love Meat. I love Patti and am grateful for her contributions to the NLE over the years. I will miss her.

I am not saying that anyone should skip the Bat 3 tour because there will be a new "leading lady". For me, it makes a difference. For a lot of others, it won't. IMO it doesn't make anyone more or less of a Meat fan. Don't read things into my posts that aren't there.

Meat is awesome, and I hope everything connected with Bat 3 is a smash.

WOW. I love that. :up:

Rosie and I've had the great pleasure of meeting Patti twice, once on Wembley Stage and at Blickling Hall, nothing was to much trouble, and Patti willing signed memorabilia and posed for photographs, and took the time to actually chat to us about everything and anything.

A lovely warm, caring, fantastic singer, we shall miss her greatly but I feel maybe Patti found it was her time to move on, I know from talking to her at the above venues that she had wished for a very long time to have the opportunity to be able to record her own album.

We'll be missing you Patti, please come and see us sometime on the forum

love dottie
xxx

Patti was a big, big part of the live Meat Loaf experience for me and most. I think its a huge shame that she couldn't stick around for this last jaunt, and that an extremely brief note is the only 'announcement' we get.

I think the old 'singers don't owe fans anything' is a non-argument. Fans are every bit as important as artists - without one, there can't be the other. Artists expect fans to treat them with courtesy - behave at concerts, respect their decisions, support their music. I hope we get the courtesy of an official announcement. Without one, all we've got is speculation.

That said, Patti will be sorely missed, particularly with the Bat 3 train getting set to roll. A beautiful counterpoint to Meat's singing.

What a huge shame to see her go.

I hope so. She deserves the best. :cheers:

Oh, come on!;)

If they don't owe us anything, they can cry next time they make a bank deposit (cry to heaven or cry like hell) because fans are where the money comes from. That said, I see Patti has had her job filled in apparently record time if she left recently or maybe she just announced recently .

Kind of amazing that most people seem to be going on about post 1993 and forgetting the previous twenty odd years that Meat's been around. Whilst I will miss Patti and her brilliant live performances it was Meat that I got into and will continue to follow.

We've got new singles, new album and a new world tour to look forward to, lets try to be positive folks.

Erm, sorry, that lost in translation... the last sentence (the bit after "edit for Musicman") is the only part directed to the Loafer formerly known as Musicman, now AndrewG.

The prior bit that is allegedly OTT is a paraphrase/summary of previous comments in thsi thread that I feel have some merit.

And, dammit, I'll jump if I want to! :lol: ;)

Amen to all of that!

Caryl

Sad news ! :-( ... makes the shock of a Monday morning even worse.

Patti - I wish you well in whatever you do next, you've been an outstanding member of the NLE for the past 13 years! But you've also proved over that time that you're an artist in your own right ... Notre Dame and WWRY being two fine examples.

Whoever takes over has a hell of a job to do, but over the years I've learnt that Meat has this ability to find the most outstanding female backing singers ... Karla, Pamela, Kati, Doreen, Amy, Elaine, Patti, CC ... the list continues to grow.

In kasim's blog update it say's that they have been auditioning for a month now ,so it seem's not to be a sudden decision.

Patti thanks for 13 brilliant year's as the foil to the big man and i hope you are sucsessfull in all that you do and achive and please dont be a stranger you will allways be a member of the meat family

whoever may follow they will have a hard job to do but we should all get behind them 100% ,it may be CC it may not but time moves on and so do band members it's a fact of life

thanks again patti (and for the kiss at chatsworth :oops: :oops: )

OKAY SO IM A BIT BEHIND :
Been away for best part of a week

welcome aspen :-P :-P :-P

I haven't doubted any of that for a second.

I wasted no time in pointing out that that isn't the only conceivable point of vierw tho after someone claimed that it was.

So the relevance of this is?

Dear Patti,

... thank you for the last 13 years. You was really great. I wish you all the best for the future.

Sabine
:(

Patti,

thank you for the wonderful things and time you've given us.
I regret not seeing you back on stage with Meat and the band again.

but I wish you all the best for the future..

THANK YOU..
and keep rockin'

Christel

I see that I became one of the few privileged fans to see Patti’s last performance with Meat in NJ in July. That will now be a major distinction of that evening. And during Dead Ringer, Two Out of Three and Paradise, the Meat and Patti Show was going full steam with comedy and fabulous vocals, and it was a fitting end to her tenure with Meat.

Allow me to also extend my best wishes to you, Patti, for great success in whatever you do. You will be very much missed.

Virginia

Yes .. over the years I've had this unspoken agreement with Meat .. I buy a ticket and get myself to the venue .. he brings the band, arranges a setlist, delivers a performance that transports me for a few hours. This has worked perfect for over 25 years :)

I trust him, his decisions, his management of his tour, his choice to decide what to say and when ..
and as he's never done anything to erode that trust, he has it still.

Caryl

Wow, that said it all for me!! i'm sure we will see a hell of a show still at RAH and wherever we see him during the tour! :D

Onstage emotions were running very high at Toms River in July, and the
love and caring that Meat and Patti feel for each other was so strong
it washed over us in the audience... I'll never forget it. Leaving the
band must have been a very hard decision. Now we owe it to Patti to
unconditionally wish her well (which I do with all my heart), and we
owe it to Meat to trust him to give us a fantastic show, just like he
has always done!!

I remember feeling guilty after seeing my first show, because my eyes
had been glued fast to Meat the whole time, even though I was aware he
was surrounded by a very talented band. And I should have felt guilty!
- not only because the NLE deserved my recognition from the start, but
because it was Meat's show! He puts on an absolutely unique show
(the word "concert" doesn't even come close) and he has always been the
creative driving force behind it. The show has always been HIS baby.
He finds the best people, helps them to give their very best, and works
with them for countless hours to put together something we'll love. He
dreams up theater to go with the music, and in his hands we rock, we
laugh, we feel joy and we get turned on. He loses sleep constantly
improving the show, and keeping it fresh time after time.

So although it may sound contradictory, I am both very, very sorry that
Patti has left the band but am looking forward to RAH and NYC and any
2007 shows I can make with no less anticipation than before! (which is
a LOT, in case there's any doubt, lol!)
-Kathy

im not writing this to wind anyone up but i honestly dont understand the hype over all of this.

Meat loaf is a solo artist he created the Neverland Express to back him up at concerts there have been many members of this over the years. A lot of very credible artists have come and gone. Some have even returned. Not all of them have participated in the recording of albums when they were members of NE some have, some haven't,

At the end of the day backing singers come and go. there have been many great ones over the years. But they leave for one reason and that is because they want to be a star in there own right. you were never going to see a Meat loaf album with the words featuring Patti Russo on the cover.

Patti has been around a lot longer than most and has dueted on some great songs and now is the time for her to spread her wings and see what she can achieve on her own and for that i wish her good luck. But its hardly worth getting so emotional over.

welllll...hehehe... i guess i'll speak for myself... i AM an emotional person.. after all... i'm a Meat fan... ;) ...

t...

I respect this as your opinion but infact Patti has had more impact than the other leads and she has infact had her name on several singles and album duets during the course of her thirteen years,
* I'd Lie For You (And That's The Truth)
* Is Nothing Sacred Anymore
* Couldn't Have Said It Better
* A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste

To name but a few. Personally she has touched us alot more because she has always been there and now she isn't and you have to understand that she has been with us for thirteen years, of course it's emotional! But I also respect this is mabe the time to cut it and to establish who she is though we still do not know the true story behind her departure but I stick with what I said prior that we will know when the time is right but right now let's just wish Patti all the joy, luck and happiness in the world and show our support.

Sad news indeed that Patti has left the band, from what I've heard of Meat's previous supporting vocalists Patti was by far the best.

I've seen Meat live 6 times in the last 7 years (it'll be 7 in 7 this year), so Patti is all I've known when seeing him live, but as saddened as I am with Patti's departure I'm not going to deprive myself of seeing Meat for possibly the last chances I'm going to get. And although it will be different without Patti there, different is not always bad and I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing what Aspen brings to the group.

No offense intended to those of you who swear you will never see Meat live again because Patti isn't there, (like I've said she's all I've known when I've seen Meat) but surely you can at least give her replacement (for want of a better word) a chance - how will you know what 'the experience' is now like if you don't go and experience it? People still went to see Queen without Freddie Mercury for heaven's sake! I did expecting it to be rubbish, but was thoroughly impressed with Paul Rogers. In fact people went to see Queen with Patti singing too now I think of it and she did well too.

At the end of the day though it's up to you what you want to do.

Best of luck to Patti though in everything that she does - maybe she can get herself on Queen's new album too.

Patty...:(
A big piece of the band left us.... without you.
sadness in my heart is how I feel now.
I can't imagine lives perfomances without your voice and presence.
God Bless You!!
You are the best!!:-P

Exactly right!
-Kathy

and that's wonderful for you. Sincerely.

But the reality is, the great majority of Meat fans aren't able to see him perform in-person dozens of times.

It was going to be tough for me to see a Bat 3 show. With the recent changes, it's no longer worth it.

No offense taken...by me, anyway! ;)

I simply have no interest in what 'the experience' has become. Marion Raven and Aspen are not my cup of tea. I'm not going to spend money to see either of them perform. I'll be content with the memory of the HOTD show I attended. What I don't understand is the attitude from some (not you, dukes) that I don't have the right to make that choice.

I hope everyone who wants to see the Bat 3 tour is able to do so.

I completely agree.

It's just ignorant to not be able to appreciate that different aspect of a musical performance will mean different things to different people. If someone went to see a Meat concert as much for Patti and as much for the theatrical relationship between meat and patti then Marion is really gonna put a dampener on the evening for them.

If someone goes along to see kasim all night, replacing him would disappoint.

And it works conversely too; I dunno if I'd buy a ticket to see Meat if tickets for an Aussie concert went on today... but if Todd was on lead guitar or jimmy on the keys then hell f*cking yeah would I be there, it'd make parting with the cash just that little bit easier.

Not only does Patti not sing with meat on A Kiss Is A Terrible Thing To Waste, Bonnie Tyler (who DOES sing with Meat on A Kiss Is A terrible Thing To Waste) doesn't sound a single thing like Patti, and never will.

There is one Patti.... nobody will sound and act like Patti, but i still think that it is not fair to say that Aspen can not be good. you don't know that! We have to wait and see. So RAH will be really interesting, new cd, new singer, new bandmember. I'm going with a open mind and let it happen, i hope everybody can do that!

Patti, it was a great ride with you! thank you so much for 14 years! Whatever you choose to do, i hope it will be a succes! Please let us know how and what you are doing, you are special to us!