:twisted: Sex and drums and rock and roll sounds a lot better to me, and it's the clever play on words Jim is known for.

On the whole issue of censorship, i've already said (more than once) i'm not too keen on Meat singing swear words (apart from "ass" in Lemon if you want to count it) as he's not that kind of entertainment to me.

If I want to listen to someone swear while they sing i'll put on some Stephen Lynch or Kevin Bloody Wilson 8)

Based on his live shows, he is exactly that 'kind of entertainment'...unless you don't mind him saying or shouting swear words, just singing them, which seems an oddly specific preference.

I'm not saying I can't sort-of understand where you're coming from, but we are talking about the odd word here and there in songs, not gangsta rap levels of obscenity on every track.

:twisted: That is, 100%, exactly, what I mean.
All the *f*ck you"'s in Paradise and such, I have no problem with at all.
Swearing in between songs, not a problem (and most of the time it's bloody funny :lol: )

Trying to explain it, I think it's because as a sung lyric (in anything but a blatant comedy song), a swear word has (IMHO) no theatrical merit.

Again, it's not that i'm uptight about swearing.I swear too much myself at times :oops: , and I think Kevin Bloody Wison and Stephen Lynch are funny as hell (and hell is where i'm going for laughing at some of Stephen Lynch's songs lol) but I just don't like a sung swear from Meat.

Weird perhaps, but there you have it :shrug:

I'm with you on that one.

So am I. :up:

Still, for a song like louder, shi wouldve been more in character then "crap"

Dude, you are totally on your own with that it would seem.

Would it also be safe to say the word choice could be reflective of the time of the album release? Things were different back then.

Dave, you make it sound like it was almost 20 years ago ;-)

Scary actually that more time has passed since the release of Bat II than had passed between the release of Bat and Bat II :shock:

I wouldn't have thought so, Gangsta Rap was pretty much in full flow by that time and we had had a lot worse from other bands and artists.