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The Flying Mouse 27 Jun 2012 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 572693)
Exactly. One of the reasons why we have this thread is the fact that the "dislike" button isn't always simply used as an alternative for a comment. It is very often (ab)used to label posts the person who "disliked" them presumably would not have responded to in the first place.

:twisted: It's true that it is easier to quickly dislike a post, so some people who would not take the time to post otherwise use it as a means to disagree.

But it's also an option that sometimes prevents a long disagreeing post that causes argument.

Pros and cons. :shrug:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 572693)
It just appears to be a convienent way to interfere with discussions you're not even interested in

There's the key word.
As you don't know why the (none)poster has disliked a post (which, if i'm correct, is the issue some people have with it) any speculation to why the poster disliked the post is made by the reader.

LuuuuvMeat 27 Jun 2012 17:41

We all know the purpose and how the function of it should work. Unfortunately the function can me manipulated and used in a negitive way. That's what the topic is about,

LuuuuvMeat 27 Jun 2012 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror (Post 572619)
No, really, it's not a game, it's just gotten so ridiculous at this point, that all I can do is laugh. :lol:


I was making a little joke. You're right, it's a problem. I didn't realize there was a history behind a few. :-)

Sarge 27 Jun 2012 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse (Post 572698)
As you don't know why the (none)poster has disliked a post (which, if i'm correct, is the issue some people have with it) any speculation to why the poster disliked the post is made by the reader.

When someone "dislikes" an entire thread, there's not much to speculate about, in my opinion.

The Flying Mouse 27 Jun 2012 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 572702)
When someone "dislikes" an entire thread, there's not much to speculate about, in my opinion.

:twisted: As I have no idea why someone would do that, speculation is all I have, but I won't assume i'm right :shrug:

But we seem to be going back to the same example over and over again.

Are there any broader opinions about the like and dislike buttons that don't involve Billy Joel?

Sarge 27 Jun 2012 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse (Post 572705)
Are there any broader opinions about the like and dislike buttons that don't involve Billy Joel?

There had been already but they were removed by a mod and now we're asked to explain the whole thing in detail again. :roll: I have the feeling you just don't want to understand what the problem is. I give up.

The Flying Mouse 27 Jun 2012 18:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 572709)
There had been already but they were removed by a mod and now we're asked to explain the whole thing in detail again. :roll:

:twisted: The deleted posts were all on the same subject. The one we keep coming back to.

Now is there anything new or should this thread go night night, because we can't seem to stay on the topic.

CarylB 27 Jun 2012 18:08

I disagree with having a "poll" on this. I would retain both functions were I the site owner .. which I'm not. Like Dave I am in favour of both and that they are not anonymous. I use them to indicate agreement or disagreement when I have nothing to add, or my view has been already made clear or is most probably known. I see no point in posting "I agree" if I have nothing to add, nor repeating my reasons for disagreeing. As I said on the other thread, I use them like I would nod or shake my head in a busy debate.

And why should a perfectly legitimate option be taken away because some people may not use it sensibly, appropriately, but in an indiscriminate way or to score points/play games ... according to others?

We might as well say people may not post either if they can't be trusted to do so with civility and respect, and without losing their tempers or sniping at each other, or posting comments to flame a response ..

Oh wait .. we have a means of dealing with that :O We have use of the report button and the moderators deal with it. Seems to me that if overuse or style of use of the like/dislike buttons offends anyone, it is the moderators who should be approached, privately


Caryl

LuuuuvMeat 27 Jun 2012 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 572714)
I disagree with having a "poll" on this. I would retain both functions were I the site owner .. which I'm not. Like Dave I am in favour of both and that they are not anonymous. I use them to indicate agreement or disagreement when I have nothing to add, or my view has been already made clear or is most probably known. I see no point in posting "I agree" if I have nothing to add, nor repeating my reasons for disagreeing. As I said on the other thread, I use them like I would nod or shake my head in a busy debate.

And why should a perfectly legitimate option be taken away because some people may not use it sensibly, appropriately, but in an indiscriminate way or to score points/play games ... according to others?

We might as well say people may not post either if they can't be trusted to do so with civility and respect, and without losing their tempers or sniping at each other, or posting comments to flame a response ..

Oh wait .. we have a means of dealing with that :O We have use of the report button and the moderators deal with it. Seems to me that if overuse or style of use of the like/dislike buttons offends anyone, it is the moderators who should be approached, privately


Caryl



Good points. I've never reported a post before. Can it be clarified that the problem is not with the actual post but the overuse of the dilike? IMO there's a bit of pink elephant syndrome going on here.

CarylB 27 Jun 2012 18:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuuuuvMeat (Post 572715)
Good points. I've never reported a post before. Can it be clarified that the problem is not with the actual post but the overuse of the dilike? IMO there's a bit of pink elephant syndrome going on here.

Thanks ;) As far as I can make out this poll thread seems to have been started because there are some who seem to be annoyed or discomfited about what they consider to be over-use or indiscriminate use of the dislike "button".

I do not think I do this, nor attempt to play games (another point raised by those against it). If I was at all concerned about anyone's use of it (and to be honest I'm not) I think we have a perfectly viable option of getting specific issues addressed, which is why I introduced posts as an example.

I think it's always a mistake to throw the baby out with the bath water. If you believe there's a problem in the way someone rides a bike, have that issue addressed, don't ban the bicycle as a mode of transport :lol:

Caryl

Sarge 27 Jun 2012 18:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse (Post 572712)
:twisted: The deleted posts were all on the same subject. The one we keep coming back to.

Oh no, they were on topic! :shock:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse (Post 572712)
Now is there anything new or should this thread go night night, because we can't seem to stay on the topic.

I'm confused. Shall we stay on topic or start a new one?

Several people address a problem, bother to point out in detail as to why they think it is one and all you get is a crippled thread and replies like the one quoted above. Nice.

The Flying Mouse 27 Jun 2012 18:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Flying Mouse (Post 572712)
Now is there anything new or should this thread go night night, because we can't seem to stay on the topic.

:twisted: No, I guess we can't.

I tried to reopen the thread to give people a chance to speak their minds on the subject as a whole rather than one example, and we just keep going back to the same ground and commenting why the posts were deleted (although i've already answered why they were deleted).


This thread is through.


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