I don't know I really don't like the new song(s). Sounds too much pop nothing special in the melody. Some of the songs sound like too overproduced as Meat's Forever Young, Because of You and You're Right, I Was Wrong. I have to say I really can't follow your doxology for the new album.

I will prefer Meat and Steinman songs till the end of the time!

It was lip synced?????

Might still be processing as my internet connection is slow like hell ;)

YouTube Video

This is f***ing great stuff guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OMG how good was the end of AFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wish I could have seen the video, should be up on youtube soon though.

Meat I am so so super proud and excited like everyone else here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can just echo what's been said, that was awesome! Way to go Meat!

I thought I read that somewhere here.:shock: Dont nail me on it.:?
If not, then it was very good night for Meat's voice. But I still dislike the new song and most of the songs by prelistening on amazon. (yes I know it is not the best quality, but you can make a picture of the melody and the instruments used. And I hate the inflated use of the piano mixed with too much chorus. Steinman songs have the same arrangment but the songs "manage" this far better).

Thank you both for posting the links :-)
Absolutely amazing !

I don't think it does performers and the music any favors to squeeze three songs in four to five minutes. Maybe I would have liked it better if they had done without the old songs and played All Of Me in full instead. The music I liked best on this show was the Billy Joel song they played towards the end to some classic Wetten, dass..? footage but hey, Meat kissed Thomas (surprise, surprise :D) and giving a CD to Jessica Biehl was a genius idea. That way, it was being displayed on the screen very well when she left. :)) Did anybody notice the little chat he had with Lagerfeld about their clothes and jewelry?

If you wanna see the kisses:

YouTube Video

I'm not one for gushing praise but I thought that was brilliant

And what does that have to do with this thread?

Yeah, Meat should just go disappear and grow old silently until Steinman writes an album of new songs for him, which will likely never happen. Stop pissing on everyone else's bonfire and if you don't like it, don't listen to it. :roll:

Was it f***

Also I hope some of the 'he should retire' halfwits are ready to eat some crow right about now.

I'm really not going overboard but there wasn't a foot wrong in that performance. And again, how awesome did he sound at the end of AFL?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As someone else said that was 1993 standard and I don't care what anyone else says on here, it was. Absolutely 10/10. Can't wait to hear what Meat thought of it.

You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouse? :lol:

Can't get over it guys. Amazing. Maybe I am going overboard now. Think you might need to ban me for a few hours while I go somewhere to calm down :D

You're not. It perhaps was make or break as someone else said. And he made it, in stellar fashion. A great moment for any fan.

Listen to this quite a few times. Again just amazing.

After the troubles we won't mention in recent times it was a big moment you're right. Not that he had anything to prove to any of us as we already knew about the great talent he showed tonight.

This show is a big deal in Germany right? Did I hear someone say that 40 million people watch it or something? Because it was the last one ever wasn't it?

By the way HIAH is currently #12 on German iTunes. Not bad to say it's been out for a day.

It was the last one with this host who's pretty much a German institution and has been presenting it for over 20 years. This was a whole big deal, there were weeks of build up on German TV and a countdown show and so on. It's not just on in Germany either, I watched it on TV from here in Holland. It's probably not a stretch to say it's the biggest live entertainment TV show in Europe.

Kudos and cheers to all the fans who know better than to ever count our man out.

Yes.

incredible... meat is the best...the perfect medley!!!!! Meat rocks!!!

I don't find that .. but as you've listed 3 songs I really love, I'd be happy either way :lol:

Absobloodylutely!! Great performance from a man with plenty of gas in the tank and a long road of new achievements beckoning .. and a road I'm delighted to be following him on :D

Caryl

its not a stretch to say i find it hard to believe thats an entertainment show, but each to their own

i must confess, i watched it on the link posted above... and really wasn't impressed

but on my return, listened to the youtube link above, and it seemed alot better

It was way to short:twisted: All Of Me sounds amazing live.

:up:

I wasn't posting a personal opinion, I was posting a matter of fact in terms of viewing figures and general categorisation.

Besides, it's not like the UK didn't have Noel's House Party and similar fodder, which was also big at the time.

very true... but that was 20 odd years ago... so what sort of viewing figures has wetten dass??? 30 million plus??

Never mind what we think of the show the fact is it is a huge draw and with the host leaving after so many years even non regular viewers would have tuned in no doubt. Considering the size of the audience this was a huge performance for Meat and he must of been incredibly nervous. But boy did he nail it and do the job, i would say i would have preferred the whole of 'All of Me' however the end of AFL was so great it was worth it. Last i looked Hell in a Handbasket was at number 11 on itunes--Hopefully there is a bit more promotion to come and this could creep into the top 5. He needs a big show performance here in the UK when promotion comes along as well as the states.

1st: LOVE the Meat Loaf lighting behind John. 2nd: The new jacket (moons/stars/peace signs)...is a grower on me. 3rd: LOVE the All of Me to AFL transition. I can almost hear it going way bigger and dramatic at the live show (tour that is). 4th: GOD IT WAS SO GOOD TO SEE HIM AGAIN! 5th: vocal chord, schmokel chord.....DAMN IT he's so good! 6th: Thank you so much for posting the links...audio/visual and the kisses! LMAO! 7th: Congratulations on coming in at #12.

Way to go Meat!!!

One word: WOW!!!!

:D :D :D

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TTW wasnt mimed and AFL wasnt but parts of AOM understandably were. Why was it pitched so low at points though?

Well anyway... by god it kicks ass.

great performance, lots of people watching, job done!!!!!!!!!!!!

I really enjoyed this performance and thought Meat sounded great. Thank you to those who have very kindly shared the clips so we could al enjoy it.

46% market share which translates to approx. 15 million spectators.

That's great that so many people got to see that, very happy!

You're right, if he came over to the UK and did the same performance on Strictly or something it would be great for him. That show gets watched by 12 million people, and they've had him on before so they do like him anyway. Can't see him doing X Factor because i'm not sure he's a fan of it, but Strictly would be good.

It's weird isn't it? I thought in an earlier post Meat said the performance would be lip synced, but it obviously wasn't. I wonder why he decided to do it live. One of the best decisions he's made anyway.

Can't believe I watched 3hrs of German TV last night. Thanks to those who made that possible for me! :lol:
But, it was definitely worth it. Meat and Patti knew at the end they had nailed it.
Hearing 3 songs in 5mins is a bit weird but, hey, let's not be too fussy.
The highlight for me was the new song. I always said All Of Me was the right choice.
Is wetten on next week?

Nope that was the last one.

Not sure that "All Of Me" was lip synched - some of the vocals sounded different to the album.

Either way, thought it was a great performance and a fantastic way to prove those mean old Aussies wrong - well done to Meat and the band.

I was wrong, he didn't say he would lip sync any of Wettan Das. He will be doing that tomorrow on their big breakfast show.

Has anyone find out what show it is? I will record all breakfast shows here in Germany, but it would be nice to know which one is the right one. ;)

that's a real shame :lol:

It wasn't, someone's hearing things again. :roll:

I still don't like medleys. :bleh:

I think it might have been. Just the opening lines tho, kind of like blind as a bat at the royal variety a few years ago but done better. I think its just a safe guard to ensure he gets into it at the right time with correct pitch etc, he's said many times he has bad rhythm and pays little attention to timing. The inflections on the words were matching the cd perfectly. Thats what i heard anyway. Still a great gig and show like, doesnt take away from the performance at all. :-)

I'm not overly keen on them either. But it was such a fantastic performance by Meat that I almost forgot it was a medley.

I'm pretty sure it was lip synched, all 3 songs in fact. Doesn't matter to me though, It looked pretty awesome. Great arrangement and stunning light show too.
Hope this medley will be on UK tv too.

I don't mind medleys as such, but I don't think they really suit artists like Meat where each song is like a scene from a play and lasts up to 10 mins plus. You lose too much of the performance (time wise not quality wise) to really get what the song is all about. Having said all that I think it went very well, and it was a good idea to fit the new song in with the old ones. Meat has very few songs that would fit into the sort of timings tv shows are likely to provide so it was a good compromise.

tell me why you don't like medleys...

(that could make a great song title)

not really askin why... just had the song in my head as soon as i saw your post :twisted: and it was too good an oportunity to miss :-P

For the reason PanicLord sort of explained above: you lose too much of the song. I'd rather have one song done well than three songs butchered and stuck together. :twisted:

I originally thought it was lipsynched but then listening to it again I realised that is wasn't!!!

Meat sounded awesome!!! I hope he is pleased with it! I was very proud of him as you cam see touring sometimes has worn his voice out a bit!!! I was very pleased for him when the video clip finished!!! He sounded freakin amazing and did an awesome job!!!

Well done Meat! Pleased for ya an I hope you're pleased too!!

I agree with all you said. I'm guessing this means that his vocals have healed up as he sounds so great and not like he's got a bit of a sore throat.

I'm glad he's had a break from touring! Fantastic performance and hopefully many more to come without him overdoing it!

Yeah after re watching it I think also the performance is in fact lip synched.

Still awesome though. I wonder if hes lip synching to edited versions of the Sydney DVD recordings of AFL and TTW :shrug:

I really really cant stress how muc i disagree with you Wario. Respectfully of course. I really dont think it was lip synched at all!!!

I have to agree with this, I believe it was live. Meat has been off tour for several weeks, and his voice is rested and he gave it his all and gave us one of the best television performances in years. Not lip synched.

Exactly :-)

I'm just curious Wario ... you said yourself you thought it was awesome. So why not just leave it at that, instead of putting the performance under a microscope to try to analyze every little note and detail :??: ;)

Sat 1 Frühstücksfernsehen. :-)

edit:

http://www.fernsehserien.de/index.ph...te=9&sender=30

That page says "Mittwoch, 14.12.2011, um 05:30 Uhr (Sat.1)"

Meat was yesterday really good!!

...and he has kissing Thomas again, he he.

Sabine:lol:

Are you sure? That's what I thought, too. But Michael Bublé will be there on Monday.

I edited my post the same time you posted your last one. :-P

Thanks for posting the link!
Dec. 14th?! Well, now I'm confused… :??:

Can anyone tell me why it's a big deal if he did lip sync? Did it take away from the performance for you? Is the performance less credible to you? I just don't get it.

He sounded great, better than I have ever heard the last few years. And great promo, wetten dass is huge in germany, and T. Gottschalk was saying goodbye after 25 years, what a great host he was! I think he will be missed on t.v. by the Germans. From what I saw, he was one of a kind...

The Dutch fans were so pleased with this performance. So... if Meat indeed goes to germany may 2012, we Dutchies all try to go to one of the German concerts. the German fans have made us all feel very welcome in the past, and I'm sure we'll feel welcome in 2012 as well. :cool:

Either way, it's impressive, but if live it means it's a great rebuff to all the recent harsh criticism and proves he can still do it under time pressure and on live TV too (which we know he doesn't like)!

I just don't get it either Suzie :shrug:

Thank you

i would be surprised if they had been allowed to do the medley live with the restrictions often imposed by live tv, but it was very good, especially how paul did the guitar motorcycle revving noise

Even on the X Factor most of the guests usually lip synch even though those are suppossed to be "real" artists in comparison to the contestants. It's quite normal indeed for TV. In fact I think almost all of Meat's performances on UK tv in the 90s and early 2000s have always been done like that and hardly ever with a full band.

What's often done is that vocals are recorded during rehearsals etc and used on the live show, that way you're still getting live vocals just not live live, if you see what I mean. Not saying that's the case here before I'm jumped on lol

Just realized the intro to the show showed breif footage form the DVD:

YouTube Video

25 second mark

It dont bother me whether it was lip synched or not. I was just saying that it wasnt a lip synched performance. Dont matter to me but I was bloody impressed and pleased for him because of the performance and very proud of him!!!

Im having a bromance with Meat Loaf!!!

Isn't the DVD supposed to feature footage from Sydney? The artwork on the drumkit appears to be from HCTB. As far as I know, the bass drum was decorated with the HIAH cover artwork during the Sydney concert.

Edit: I knew it looked familiar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh8vVDMXGEQ

It does not matter if it was lip synced or not. It sounded goddamn good, They did amazing work on it, and it has the potential to get meat to #1 in Germany because of the fabulous production. Anyone who whines about it has got nothing better to do in their life except pick everything apart done by meat.

ah yes my mistake.

I hadn't noticed anyone whining about it, just inquiring in a friendly manner, but either way I 100% agree it was a terrific job and excellent promotion for Meat. Looks like it's having a positive effect according to the other thread about chart positions - a job very well done indeed!

Still not convinced by All of Me but, as a medley, the performance it was a million times better than the AFL one

And you were proven so right!!! ;)

The entire performance ROCKED, but ALL OF ME..... ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!! :D

MEAT ~ YOU WERE FABULOUS!!!

I think parts of it were live and parts were pre recorded. It was ingenious!!!! And like I said it doesn't matter, the production was ~~~~ing epic!

four thumbs up!
 

Thanks so much to Stretch and Adje and Unbekannt for posting the links! I enjoyed that :) and I'm thrilled Meat was on this big show!! Can't you just hear the worldwide buzz factor increasing :)

I now have an image of a white-coated Dr. Wario in his purpose built "Meat Loaf Testing Laboratory"

That's probably not far from the truth to be honest. Wario goes overboard disecting everything Meat does.

Well I dont know why people on this forum are being so exited about a lip synched performance? Is being a fan = being naïve?
I would rather be impressed at seeing Meat do a great LIVE vocal performance LIVE on TV. When is it that he sounded great on TV during a live performance? Really i can't remember, but since the Hang Cool CD came out, I would say NONE (with the exeption of Living on the outside at one TV show maybe...). He sounded great live during a hang cool show when I saw him, but at every TV show i'm like: ARGH!!!!.......... Noooooooo!!! Please Meat stop to stress out so much your vocal chords!!!!!!¨.....
Really, there is nothing extraordinary at lip synching a song, even if you're Meat Loaf. Hope it gets him to sell some CDs, thats all.
PS: I have been watching Wetten dass since my childhood, and EVERY artist I saw on this show lip synched, so I just hope noone will persist on saying it was live.

I have no idea either why this always has to be the subject of guesses, assumptions, pontifications and debates either :roll:

Was it a great performance? YES. Did he rock the house down in style? YES. Was it Meat singing? YES. Why the hell that can't be enough baffles me. (Nor how anyone who wasn't on that set can make their assumptions by simply watching YT clips anyway. Going on those the host lip synched his way through Meat's introduction :lol:)

It was a terrific performance, what was recorded then or earlier, or delivered live only Meat knows .. It was HIM singing, he was great, I loved it, the audience loved it, he was clearly delighted, and frankly that's more than sufficient for me.

Caryl

Lol, if watching/participating in something since childhood makes you an iron clad expert on a subject, then I just realized that I am officially a freaking genius. :cool: Seriously, just ask me, I'll tell you.

Dude, you are doing what many people tend to do, you are presenting your opinion as fact and that is just not the case. I personally stand by my opinion that the performance was live, and unless Meat tells us otherwise, I will continue to believe that. And, no I am not naïve, I just think it was a great performance by a well rested performer.

Well said.

Well you might of course be much better informed and knowledgeable than some of us .. but I think being a fan means that you delight in a great performance, in hearing great vocals, in seeing Meat's delight. To me that's not naive .. simply positive, supportive, and one of those fans who actually ENJOYS hearing and watching the performer they follow. It was HIS voice, and some of us take our simple pleasures in that.

Why? They are entitled to make their own assumptions, just as you make yours (I suspect you weren't on the set or the soundboard, so you too are making an assumption based on what you consider to be the evidence). And if anyone wants to express what they think, and that happens (heaven forfend) to be at odds with your view, they are entitled to say what they think ..

Meat appeared on Wetten Das. He was great, and if some of us find that exciting so be it. I think it's terrific to be a fan who DOES get excited by seeing and hearing the performer I follow, simply enjoys it, doesn't need to examine it and dissect it, but can simply take pleasure in it and celebrate.

Caryl

I guess people just want to make sure Meat can still do it without the comfort and safety of a recording studio. At least All of Me was part lip sync. That's a given. I have such a sensitive memory for sung words that I would hear the difference at once. And the first verse is right from the CD.

Many tv shows do not allow live performances as a rule. I recall Dick Clark's "American Bandstand" when I was young (very, very young LOL) one band made headlines because they suddenly played something live without the producer's knowledge. I don't think they ever appeared on there again and as I recall the producers were quite upset the lip sync only rule being broken. In America I have noted Saturday Night Live going from all live performances to a mixture of live and either outright lip sync or backing tracks. Depends on what the show allows.

great performance!!! does everybody agree? end of people!!!!!

Again, just you're just stating an opinion, not a fact as you make it sound.

In my opinion for what it's worth the whole thing was live vocals. All Of Me was live vocals in my view because there was an ad lib that was different from the record.

I find it hard to believe that Meat would be able to lip sync the whole performance THAT perfectly, even the ad libs, if it was it was the best mime in history. Just like someone who said Lady Gaga lip synced at Children In Need when it was so obvious she didn't. The signs are there if you look hard enough that it's live, and I saw enough to convince me.

best post of this thread!!! 100% on the money!!!

If Meat is reading any of this debate I bet he's having a good laugh.
I must say I didn't realise half of what goes on in a TV performance!
It certainly sounded live to me, although I am easily fooled. Even it wasn't live live as Monstro said I couldn't really care. I doubt he would have had time to do too many takes in the rehearsals so, to me, I am counting it as live!!
We had to endure nearly 3hrs of german entertainment before Meat came on, so I was determined to enjoy the moment and, by heck, I did!!

Which he's been doing regularly during the last two years, on stage, live, loud, in-your-face proud and bloody brilliantly .. so they should all be pretty happy

Caryl

Thank you. For those that are wondering there was a bit during All Of Me where he did an 'oh' ad lib that wasn't on the record.

It was great performance and I enjoyed it very much (the lights, the cut with the singing girl in the audience, etc.) It doesn´t matter, but I think it was live pre recorded and a very good lip sync. In my mind, it wasn´t synchron at the end of Anything for example.
Am I right, that there wasn´t a performance at the announced breakfast show today?

Great!!! Congratulations Meat, I hope it continues upwards from there!

Me too!

Beacuase iz Wario ;)

It's taken me a few days, I've been away fro cricket, but I finally got to watch this. I was thinking when I watched it that AOM sounded very similar to the recorded version, but then I watched closely, he is in perfect timing and Meat has always said that he never stays in time, and it did sound a bit different, I am pretty sure it's not lip synched, but so what if it was? It was great and TTW & AFL were fantastic!

Me too, all all counts!