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chairboys 15 Nov 2011 16:03

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Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 559092)

And a poll consisting of 65 votes from Meat Loaf fans on one fan site (64 if you take away the one for "a mystery song") isn't exactly a robust set of statistics


A very select group of voters though!!

chairboys 15 Nov 2011 16:46

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Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 559107)
I simply support him, rather than run around calling "Woe! Woe!" and forecasting failure.

Caryl

Of course I hope All Of Me is successful. That goes without saying.
However, my gut instinct is that it is the wrong choice.
Maybe the poll sample is too small to be representative, but I am picking up on a trend that suggests other tracks should have been chosen.
If Sony follow up All Of Me with at least two of the three songs which are above it in our tiny survey then I will be happy.
I will gladly eat humble pie next year if I have to confess to you that "You're Right, I Was Wrong".
My support for Meat will never fade.

CarylB 15 Nov 2011 17:26

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Originally Posted by chairboys (Post 559109)
A very select group of voters though!!

Indeed .. and that's my point really. Select and not necessarily predictive of the mass market. I have no idea which would be better, and unless they release them both we won't ever know ;) But I like to think that those making the decision have done some market research and have based theirs on that. I'm not judging them by other labels over the past few years. I'm happy they're committed to releasing physical discs, which has pleased Meat too, and assume they want it to sell just as much as we do .. it's how they make their money ;)

Caryl

Sarge 15 Nov 2011 17:32

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Originally Posted by chairboys (Post 559084)
I like All Of Me but is NOT the best song on the album.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 559099)
While all of me is a good song, Im baffled why Sony chose that over The Giving Tree or Live or Die, which I bet even you can say would have been better choices. I hope they do know what they are doing.

It's rarely the best song that gets picked as a single. Take any famous singer/band and compare the singles to the other songs on their albums. In many cases you will find songs that are way more interesting than the singles/hits. As others have pointed out, they often opt for a song they think that will appeal to the general public the most. All Of Me is not the worst choice, considering that Cry Over Me was released as a single while plans of boosting a better song were ditched. At least they seem to have a clear strategy this time. I'd rather see a proper single, even if it's not my favorite song, than something like the HCTB "singles" mess again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamourgirl (Post 559105)
I'm thinking Our Love and Our Souls would make a good worldwide single. It's so relevant to the issues people are currently facing (losing their jobs and homes being foreclosed). The song is beautiful and has a really powerful message, and I think it would get a lot of airplay.

So why do you hardly find songs that are "relevant to the issues people are currently facing" on the charts or hear them on the radio these days?

CarylB 15 Nov 2011 17:51

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Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 559113)
So why do you hardly find songs that are "relevant to the issues people are currently facing" on the charts or hear them on the radio these days?

That thought occurred to me also .. I suspect that those which have greatest relevance to people dealing with unemployment and homelessness may not have the wherewithall to buy singles, which may seem a forgoable luxury when your pockets are empty.

Feel good or anger seems to drive the playlists these days it seems to me ..

Caryl

TheDoode 15 Nov 2011 19:03

I really like All of Me; I think it's a great track with a relevant theme and a contemporary sound (love the piano outro).

That said, my 21 year old girlfriend, who usually listens to more contemporary artists like Damien Rice, Newton Faulkner, Kanye West, Bloc Party, etc., prefers Another Day and constantly says it's one of the best tracks on the album. I can hear her humming it in the shower right now actually!

Julie in the rv mirror 15 Nov 2011 19:05

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Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 559111)
Indeed .. and that's my point really. Select and not necessarily predictive of the mass market. I have no idea which would be better, and unless they release them both we won't ever know ;) But I like to think that those making the decision have done some market research and have based theirs on that. I'm not judging them by other labels over the past few years. I'm happy they're committed to releasing physical discs, which has pleased Meat too, and assume they want it to sell just as much as we do .. it's how they make their money ;)

Caryl

Caryl is right; speaking from strictly a statistical standpoint, a sample such as was obtained here would probably be thrown out. I think you can compare it to a setlist which is chosen by diehard fans- it wouldn't necessarily appeal to the majority of the audience.

Record companies are in the business of selling records (CD's, downloads, whatever)- period. They employ people whose job it is to pick the tracks that are going to sell the most, not necessarily those that are considered "best".

Evil One 15 Nov 2011 19:18

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Originally Posted by Julie in the rv mirror (Post 559130)
Record companies are in the business of selling records (CD's, downloads, whatever)- period. They employ people whose job it is to pick the tracks that are going to sell the most, not necessarily those that are considered "best".

Which still boggles my mind when I think of such 'best sellers' as Man Of Steel and Cry Over Me. :roll:

Julie in the rv mirror 15 Nov 2011 19:23

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Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 559132)
Which still boggles my mind when I think of such 'best sellers' as Man Of Steel and Cry Over Me. :roll:

Well, I never said it was an exact science! :lol:

chairboys 15 Nov 2011 19:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 559111)
But I like to think that those making the decision have done some market research

Caryl

I would certainly like to know how they conduct their market research. Perhaps a show of hands in the boardroom!!

Ps. just to reiterate, I do like the song, BUT, I would prefer something else!!

AndrewG 18 Nov 2011 10:28

I thought that old show was canned after that guy breaking his neck failing to jump over that car. Bizarre how some shows run forever in only certain countries. A bit like Big Brother over here whereas that died a silly death very quickly over the rest of Europe.

pierre 18 Nov 2011 11:16

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Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 559267)
I thought that old show was canned after that guy breaking his neck failing to jump over that car. Bizarre how some shows run forever in only certain countries. A bit like Big Brother over here whereas that died a silly death very quickly over the rest of Europe.

No, it wasnīt. After the accident (he is in a wheelchair), the host (in germany we say showmaster) Thomas wanted to quit. He made a couple of more shows and this will be the last (with him) and as said before many people will watch it. Then will be a break. They are looking for a new presenter, (but nobody wants to do it.)

Ollie241189 18 Nov 2011 12:54

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Originally Posted by pierre (Post 559003)
Yes, they are.

He already performed Anything, Not A Dry Eye (Meat made a big mistake in the mimed performance) and DIST (where Meat kissed the showmaster Thomas) at that show.

Itīs a Saturday evening family show.

I dont think it was a mimed performance. The problem with Tv shows is they get the artist to sing the song live and then dub over the vocals with the album/single version. So I dont think it was Meat's fault I think it was the TV show's producer's fault.

madagascar 18 Nov 2011 15:35

As far as I know by now only two singers performed live on Wetten Dass..?

One is a german singer called Sarah Connor the other name just escaped me.
The last show in Nurnberg has been watched by over 8 million people. Wetten Dass..? is the biggest TV show and celebrities come there without being paid. They all love Thomas Gottschalk. :-)

pierre 18 Nov 2011 16:49

Wetten, dass...Meat Loaf MEDLEY
 
http://www.cms-medienmagazin.de/2011...iedrichshafen/

http://www.net-tribune.de/nt/node/78...ss-stehen-fest

It says:

...Rockfan Thomas Gottschalk..and his personal taste... and...


Meat is going to perform a medley of his biggest hits.


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Evil One 18 Nov 2011 18:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by pierre (Post 559274)
Meat is going to perform a medley of his biggest hits.

Because it all went so well last time. :shock:

RSG 18 Nov 2011 19:29

why not a track from the most recent release. Cant hurt

unbekannt 18 Nov 2011 19:45

Meat will be performing a medley of AFL, Took The Words and All Of Me.

Source: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitr...en?bildIndex=1
(pic 4 of 8 )

Sarge 18 Nov 2011 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 559276)
Because it all went so well last time. :shock:

I hate to say it but... My thoughts exactly...

Quote:

Originally Posted by unbekannt (Post 559280)
Meat will be performing a medley of AFL, Took The Words and All Of Me.

:yawn: Is that nostalgia stuff really necessary? Why not play a whole HIAH song?

chairboys 18 Nov 2011 19:57

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Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 559281)
Why not play a whole HIAH song?

indeed

stretch37 18 Nov 2011 20:20

RIGHT ON MEAT FOR TACKLING ANOTHER LIVE TV PERFORMANCE!

YOU GO MAN! :D :D

robgomm 18 Nov 2011 22:50

I think gathering from other comments this will be prerecorded, so i don't see how it can go wrong.

Sebastian. 19 Nov 2011 14:30

I'm looking forward to this.

If it is live I don't think it will go wrong like last time. The medley doesn't seem as demanding, it's inside, he'll probably be allowed a soundcheck and I don't think the audience will be a load of football fans already cheesed off that it's not a home act performing.

Though I would love to hear a HIAH song instead of a medley but I think this will still be top notch.

TheDoode 19 Nov 2011 17:18

Yeah, I love that Meat's doing this, but I think I'd rather just hear All of Me, since it's promotion for a new album.

Wario 19 Nov 2011 17:45

why not SITS sans lil jon with randy doing the John rich verse (since pattis doing a show that day) and all of me? why the medley?


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