I think it's the situation that Meat has an image in his mind of what the album should sound like, and RC does all the technical stuff, chosing songwriters, etc
The fact that Rob Cavallo takes care of the production doesnt mean Meat has no influence.

And personally speaking, I'd rather see him give the job to someone really good, than doing half the job himself. The two albums with his biggest involvement (MATLAF and BBIS) are his weakest (IMO).

I agree with this scenario. Imo, Meat is the visionary and Rob is the one that goes...I have a guy/or gal for that! Happens to be that the chosen people are song writers/artist so they are multitasking. Doesn't mean that Meat can remember their names any better. :lol:

Suzieq

That's not what I intended to say, I'm just a little surprised. If I was suggested to record a cool song by someone whom I (maybe?) haven't heard of before or whom I don't know much about I'd get interested and do some research and would definitely remember that person's name. But I have to admit that "D'Artagnan" sounds much cooler than "Eric Nally". :p

I don't doubt that Mr. Cavallo is very good and I'm not going to discuss his abilities as a producer. I just expected that Meat was a little more involved in certain issues, especially since recent interviews imply that he's going to create something special.

They may be "weak" but they are not bad. Those albums were victims of time and circumstance. BBIS was apparently spoiled by Frank Farian's production, in my opinion. And although Meat Loaf has claimed several times that he can't write songs, I dare to say that the few songs he wrote himself are better than some of the songs that were written for him by others.

lets not forget Meat is alot older and wiser now since both of those albums.

They may be "weak" but they are not bad. Those albums were victims of time and circumstance. BBIS was apparently spoiled by Frank Farian's pruduction, in my opinion. And although Meat Loaf has claimed several times that he can't write songs, I dare to say that the few songs he wrote himself are better than some of the songs that were written for him by others.[/QUOTE]

I couldn't agree more :D

I just think we aren't privy to the thought process itself. We don't know what research Meat has done on these writers. Meat and Rob collaborated on this project well before Meat's tweets. If Meat was looking for suggestions for talent, Meat would have the faith in Rob to bring in the talent for the project. As far as remembering, has he ever remembered multiple names during his tweets? Probably why he has groups introduce themselves on his tweets. I don't blame him. Personally, I'm great with faces, bad with names. I just find that he's not reading off of cue cards and he's doing it off the cuff which makes it charming and less staged.

But agreed, D'Artagnan is a cool nickname.

Suzieq

So long as he doesn't forget the lyrics then I don't care about the songwriters names.

Have to say I think the singing on the new video is a LOT better than on the first one. Sounds not as forced as the earlier clip.

Keep up the quality Mr Loaf :up:

Love the vocals on the latest tweet, sounds great!

And you gotta love those lyrics

Can't wait for the album

ZOMG!!1!eleven! Meat said something so naughty this board won't permit it unless you're very sneaky!

He's said f-momma so many times on tour (SO MANY). first time the word is actually written (not add libbed) in context on album and song!

last time he really used an "extremely bad-boy mommy doesn't think that's appropriate" bad cuss word on a record was life is a lemon in 1992!

You could argue "whore" but thats a live version sans the crowd....

Mabey this new song will replace Lemon in the set :D (finally no more lemon! Time to retire it, i must say)

And he comes with a warning label. NICE!

Suzieq

:D pearl and him did very well on that
still no banjo though...

Yep, and it was "explicit" enough for me to understand the lyrics this time. :)) I just came home from the pub :hic: and now I know it was a good idea to check the forum in spite of being tired. That video was a nice surprise. I don't know why but I like it, it even made me laugh. That's Rock 'n' Roll, I hope the entire song is like that. Too bad, you can't hear the music. Sounds like it could be a catchy tune. Thanks! :-)

Damn... where's my saboteur attitude?

By the way, who the hell requested the warning, LOL?

everyone knows he uses the "F" word if they don't then they aren't from this planet

He does but he never used it on an album before

I agree, very Rock 'n' Roll style. Could sound great on stage.

Florence

FFFFFFFFFiretruck... Release date for Christmas, c'mon ;)

What planet would they be from then? Because this planet has about 6.5Billion humans and I'd say at best only 50Million would know that Meat Loaf says Fuck, which equals to less than 0.78% of the population. So when you say everyone that's not really true is it? ;)

Smartass :D

is it? I personally think it's ridiculous. Same with the parent advisory label on 3 bats live :nuts:

i didnt think the b-side was?? Doesn't sound live to me anyway :hmm: def no crowd in the background.

That's not a live version, it was recorded during the Bat 3 sessions. It may have been done with the whole band in one take, ie without overdubs etc.

wouldnt that be nice? i would say mar/apr 2010, so not long now:(

that's what sans crowd means; WITHOUT a crowd.