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Sebastian. 07 Oct 2012 16:04

I've not had a problem with picture. Both on a 22'' LCD PC screen and a 32'' TV.

Can't wait to try it in Saudi on a 60'' with surround sound!

melon 07 Oct 2012 17:14

It's kinda blurry/pixellated on my TV, its worst when the blue lights are on. I was going to watch it on either my laptop or tv in my bedroom tonight to see if it was any different, but its just too late right now.

Still happy to have the DVD :) I still love it

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JennaG 07 Oct 2012 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 577981)
Still happy to have the DVD :) I still love it

I totally agree. Meat and the band are simply amazing in this DVD and it was definately worth the wait. :D :D

Vickip 07 Oct 2012 17:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by JennaG (Post 577984)
I totally agree. Meat and the band are simply amazing in this DVD and it was definately worth the wait. :D :D

:D :up: :cheer:

PanicLord 07 Oct 2012 18:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by JennaG (Post 577974)
I'm not liking that announcement very much. :(

Anyway, back to the DVD. How did people find the picture quality? I've not found it to be great but I'm wondering if that's just this computer?

No issues with picture quality on mine, in fact I was very impressed. Mind you played it through my PS3 which is a VERY good player and upscaler.

robgomm 07 Oct 2012 19:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanicLord (Post 577986)
No issues with picture quality on mine, in fact I was very impressed. Mind you played it through my PS3 which is a VERY good player and upscaler.

Yeah me either, mine was a cracking picture on an old 32' HD ready TV. Weird how people are seeing things differently, I guess it depends on different TV's, different settings etc.

Good call on PS3 btw, I haven't tried it yet through that.

What's your username so I can add you as a friend? Mines Robdoggomm I think.

ninja 07 Oct 2012 20:48

imo the picture quality is great. love the light - makes me feel like being in the concert :-)

PanicLord 07 Oct 2012 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 577989)
What's your username so I can add you as a friend? Mines Robdoggomm I think.

Um on what?

robgomm 07 Oct 2012 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanicLord (Post 577997)
Um on what?

On your PS3?

Wario 08 Oct 2012 00:49

Brace yourselves..... here I go!

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I've been waiting long. too long and hard for this DVD and by golly its the best two hours of my life everrrrrr.

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First ill say what I didn't like: Living on the Outside, Stand in the Storm, and the documentary. ill get to those two songs in a bt but the documentary was bad in both picture and sound. they used CAMERA AUDIO for the interviews and it wasn't edited that great (a lot of black frames). the concert footage too in the documentary seemed unmastered. No interviews with ANY of the band members. none. Would’ve rather had a commentary track.

now ... the track by track analysis... the nitty gritty.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...oLoaf/01HP.png
"Really had a good time!"

Hot Patootie / Time Warp: 5/5
This was utterly fantastic. Meat was energetic, the arrangement kicked ass and the band was so strong. My favorite part is his “come on!” after the Time Warp section.

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"You Gotta.... Break it!"

Break It: 5/5
Ive never been a break it supporter … until now. This just freaking rocked. Meat was incredible and the band looked like they were having a blast. Only thing I wish their was more of the the water gun. Loved how meat kept saying "You gotta!"

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...oaf/03BOOH.png
"Hey likea Bat Outta Heeeeeeeeeelllll!"

Bat: 4/5
This was fantastic. Now that mel said what banter was cut that would’ve been more awesome for what he says after. That was epic. A few moments that was a bit cluttered, but it was still a great performance.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...Loaf/04POE.png
"I dont Think so!!!"

POE: 5/5
What a great performance. My favorite moment was his “they say to me hang cool teddy bear … I don’t think so!” This was sooo great the staging, the lighting. It was one of my favorites off the DVD.

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"come on baby, read with me"

LOTO: 3/5
One of the two very weak points of the DVD. Its just meat is out of time for a lot of it. Dunno if it was a problem with the headset or what. He sound greta when he was on point tho, Best live version ive heard, but I wish some lines were in more time.

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"I emptyed out my pocketttttttts"

Los Angeloser: 5/5
Utterly fantastic. Loved how Patti sang her parts. So energetic and Meat sounded amazing. Every live version I heard never captured this song until now! Loved how he sang "emptied out my pockettts".

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"let me hear you say 'amen!'"

Took The Words: 5/5
The best version of Took the words post 1993. Justin’s intro was awesome and we got PREACHER MEAT! Audience banter at its finest. Something that was missing from 3 Bats Live.

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"come on patricia!"

Rock & Roll Dreams: 6/5
The greatest thing ever. 11 minutes of awesomeness. Long-0ass sax solo, Meat on top form, and a kick ass arrangement. This was awesome. The best performance bar none on the DVD. Loved how meat goes "come on patricia during the interlude before justin's epic solo.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...oaf/09SITS.png
"where's my cowgirl?
"right here cowboy!"

SITS: 2/5
Hated it. Auto tuned like crazy and sounded so artificial. One of only 2 songs on this DVD I didn’t like. I did like though patti referenced his secondary MLUKFC username at the start (cowboy)

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...Loaf/10AFL.png
"sooner or later you'll be screwing around"

Anything for Love: 5/5
Fantatsic,. Loved the abridged version and arrangement. My best friend watched this with me and said he preferred the intro to the piano-vocal one. LOVED this and meat sounded AWESOME. SO FREAKING AWESOME. Patti was amazing. This was her best vocal of the night.

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"If Jim were here he'd be in that front seat screaming at the top of his lungs for what you just saw"

Two Out Of Three: 5/5
Ridiculous. Like a 3 minute violin/piano duel. Its crazy. My favorite moment of the DVD is quoted above.
Mats voice on this one was jaw dropping

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...12Paradise.png

"I went against the cardinal rules fellas... never make a girl cry"

Paradise: 4/5
26 freaking minutes. 26 minutes of awesomeness. Paradise was awesome but Where were the telitubbies????? Meat sounded great, patti was excellent, but the reason it gets a 4 is cause of the goshdarn clown noise on the f words. You just have to watch it. Its an episode of a TV show in the middle of a concert DVD.

http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/e...13Boneyard.png
"Oh you gotta let the good times roll baby!"

Boneyard / All Revved Up: 3.5/5
Ive heard better Boneyards on bootlegs, and I wish meat wore his red coat during it. Needed more Justin. Another thing im confused with is why they cut the :son of a bitch” lines. Was it performed like that just for the DVD. The end was satisfying, but I kept thinking mercury would show but I remembered concert-one fudged it up,.

Overall the DVD was excellent, well worth the wait. The echo never bothered me..

Didnt like the transitions though between songs, the camera was white balanced that great either. I think the blurriness comes form the High iso on the camera. cause of them making the shots darker.

I wish we could’ve gotten mercury blues, dead ringer, all of me, and song of madness soundboards as extras.

Sarge 08 Oct 2012 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578001)
Paradise was awesome but Where were the telitubbies?????

No Teletubbies? Good. :twisted:

mikeloaf 08 Oct 2012 01:09

It's a good DVD. I assume there was an encore because the lights stayed dark on the credits. The pity is the crowd again sat in there seats! At the Newcastle show everone stood up from the start. Would have been a better show to record!!

roomster 08 Oct 2012 01:15

The new DVD has finally reached me here in Norway and I just have to say that it is fantastic Meat! :D Thank you so much for giving us moments like this!

I've only seen you perform live once (2008, Bergen/Norway), but I really, really hope that I get another chance.

Rock on!

Vickip 08 Oct 2012 01:24

Thanks for your review Wario :-) I haven't gotten my copy so I can't comment on anything you've posted ;)
but Rock & Roll Dreams and Peace On Earth are two of the songs that I'm truly looking forward to seeing :D

melon 08 Oct 2012 03:33

Wario, I quite liked SITS and I think it sounded fine on the dvd.

As for Boneyard, I don't have anything to compare that to but I thought it was great and I'm so glad I finally have a copy of the song! Freebird was one of my highlights of the night too

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Kai-H. 08 Oct 2012 06:41

I'm impressed, Maestro !
 
I'm impressed, Maestro: Great gig from the whole team !!!:metal:

JennaG 08 Oct 2012 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578001)
Boneyard / All Revved Up: 3.5/5
Ive heard better Boneyards on bootlegs, and I wish meat wore his red coat during it. Needed more Justin. Another thing im confused with is why they cut the :son of a bitch” lines. Was it performed like that just for the DVD. The end was satisfying, but I kept thinking mercury would show but I remembered concert-one fudged it up,.

Boneyard never really stood out to me when I saw it in concert and I don't think I remember anything about the performance of it so this DVD gave me the opportunity to take in the performance of the song. It's not one I rate as my favourite live songs but it wasn't bad.

I enjoyed watching the concert and the highlights of the DVD for me were Bat Out of Hell, Peace on Earth and Paradise.

I didn't rate the documentary all that highly. I'd have preferred an 'In Search of Paradise' type documentary which followed Meat and the band rather than having all that talk from those crew members.

melon 08 Oct 2012 14:26

You know what.... I absolutely adore this dvd, every single bit of it. Blurr or no blurr.

So, how do I deal with that ISO thing?

Ohhhh and just remembered some more talking that was cut. Meat explained before Paul's solo how Paul had wanted a acoustic solo because Randy had one and Paul cried lol. I put it in my concert review way back. He said how you have to treat guitarists like kids or something, if one has something you have to give it to the other too lol.

It's the best I remember it off the top of my head.

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MarkS 08 Oct 2012 14:30

I thought Stand in the Storm was pretty good. Didn't sound any more "produced" than any of the other tracks on the DVD

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GDW 08 Oct 2012 14:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 578014)
You know what.... I absolutely adore this dvd, every single bit of it. Blurr or no blurr.

So, how do I deal with that ISO thing?

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Better glasses maybe.:-)

LisaT 08 Oct 2012 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 577981)
It's kinda blurry/pixellated on my TV, its worst when the blue lights are on. I was going to watch it on either my laptop or tv in my bedroom tonight to see if it was any different, but its just too late right now.

Still happy to have the DVD :) I still love it

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The picture quality when the blue lights are on is awful on one of my TVs, which was played through a PS3. Am gonna try it out on a different TV and through a DVD player when I get a chance, to see if it makes a difference.

robgomm 08 Oct 2012 21:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578001)
Brace yourselves..... here I go!

I've been waiting long. too long and hard for this DVD and by golly its the best two hours of my life everrrrrr.

First ill say what I didn't like: Living on the Outside, Stand in the Storm, and the documentary. ill get to those two songs in a bt but the documentary was bad in both picture and sound. they used CAMERA AUDIO for the interviews and it wasn't edited that great (a lot of black frames). the concert footage too in the documentary seemed unmastered. No interviews with ANY of the band members. none. Would’ve rather had a commentary track.

now ... the track by track analysis... the nitty gritty.

"Really had a good time!"

Hot Patootie / Time Warp: 5/5
This was utterly fantastic. Meat was energetic, the arrangement kicked ass and the band was so strong. My favorite part is his “come on!” after the Time Warp section.

"You Gotta.... Break it!"

Break It: 5/5
Ive never been a break it supporter … until now. This just freaking rocked. Meat was incredible and the band looked like they were having a blast. Only thing I wish their was more of the the water gun. Loved how meat kept saying "You gotta!"

"Hey likea Bat Outta Heeeeeeeeeelllll!"

Bat: 4/5
This was fantastic. Now that mel said what banter was cut that would’ve been more awesome for what he says after. That was epic. A few moments that was a bit cluttered, but it was still a great performance.

"I dont Think so!!!"

POE: 5/5
What a great performance. My favorite moment was his “they say to me hang cool teddy bear … I don’t think so!” This was sooo great the staging, the lighting. It was one of my favorites off the DVD.

"come on baby, read with me"

LOTO: 3/5
One of the two very weak points of the DVD. Its just meat is out of time for a lot of it. Dunno if it was a problem with the headset or what. He sound greta when he was on point tho, Best live version ive heard, but I wish some lines were in more time.

"I emptyed out my pocketttttttts"

Los Angeloser: 5/5
Utterly fantastic. Loved how Patti sang her parts. So energetic and Meat sounded amazing. Every live version I heard never captured this song until now! Loved how he sang "emptied out my pockettts".

"let me hear you say 'amen!'"

Took The Words: 5/5
The best version of Took the words post 1993. Justin’s intro was awesome and we got PREACHER MEAT! Audience banter at its finest. Something that was missing from 3 Bats Live.

"come on patricia!"

Rock & Roll Dreams: 6/5
The greatest thing ever. 11 minutes of awesomeness. Long-0ass sax solo, Meat on top form, and a kick ass arrangement. This was awesome. The best performance bar none on the DVD. Loved how meat goes "come on patricia during the interlude before justin's epic solo.

"where's my cowgirl?
"right here cowboy!"

SITS: 2/5
Hated it. Auto tuned like crazy and sounded so artificial. One of only 2 songs on this DVD I didn’t like. I did like though patti referenced his secondary MLUKFC username at the start (cowboy)

"sooner or later you'll be screwing around"

Anything for Love: 5/5
Fantatsic,. Loved the abridged version and arrangement. My best friend watched this with me and said he preferred the intro to the piano-vocal one. LOVED this and meat sounded AWESOME. SO FREAKING AWESOME. Patti was amazing. This was her best vocal of the night.

"If Jim were here he'd be in that front seat screaming at the top of his lungs for what you just saw"

Two Out Of Three: 5/5
Ridiculous. Like a 3 minute violin/piano duel. Its crazy. My favorite moment of the DVD is quoted above.
Mats voice on this one was jaw dropping

"I went against the cardinal rules fellas... never make a girl cry"

Paradise: 4/5
26 freaking minutes. 26 minutes of awesomeness. Paradise was awesome but Where were the telitubbies????? Meat sounded great, patti was excellent, but the reason it gets a 4 is cause of the goshdarn clown noise on the f words. You just have to watch it. Its an episode of a TV show in the middle of a concert DVD.

"Oh you gotta let the good times roll baby!"

Boneyard / All Revved Up: 3.5/5
Ive heard better Boneyards on bootlegs, and I wish meat wore his red coat during it. Needed more Justin. Another thing im confused with is why they cut the :son of a bitch” lines. Was it performed like that just for the DVD. The end was satisfying, but I kept thinking mercury would show but I remembered concert-one fudged it up,.

Overall the DVD was excellent, well worth the wait. The echo never bothered me..

Didnt like the transitions though between songs, the camera was white balanced that great either. I think the blurriness comes form the High iso on the camera. cause of them making the shots darker.

I wish we could’ve gotten mercury blues, dead ringer, all of me, and song of madness soundboards as extras.

Thanks for the review Wario and the great pics! Going through I gotta agree with most of your points.

I felt the documentary was quite a let down. No band members, not enough Meat. The SFM realise people bought this to see Meat right? Badly thought out. And yes you're right the concert footage in the documentary sounded different from the final version so that was very amatuerish to miss that.

Considering the vocal chord problems Meat was having at the time he has done an ASTOUNDING job vocally on this DVD. Meat you should be proud of yourself. I thought every track was a strong vocal performance.

The songs themselves there were so many highlights it's hard to pick them out. Best version of Break It i've heard bar none, best version of Los Angeloser ever done, that was just absolute perfection.

But the two outstanding highlights for me were Rock N Roll Dreams and Two Out Of Three, for the simple fact they had the most jaw dropping, amazing, incredible instrument playing solos in them i've ever seen. I couldn't get enough of the sax in Rock N Roll dreams, or the incredible accoustic intro to that song, or the incredible talents of Justin and Ginny in Two Out Of Three. Meat has never had a better band than this.

On that note can we please have a BIG hand for Ginny Luke. When Meat did MSO it was incredible, and a big part of that was because of the addition of the orchestra, the extra instrumentation added a huge amount to that show, and i've always felt since then that something was missing. But not any more! Ginny Luke may not be an entire orchestra, but her violin alone adds so much to the songs it's incredible! She has taken the songs to another level on this DVD, an amazing talent.

I've got to say I loved Stand In The Storm. I understand what people are saying about autotune, but until I hear from the horses mouth that it was autotuned i'm going to believe it was a great vocal performance.

I understand people are having problems with the picture on this DVD, but it must be down to peoples individual TV's and their settings because on mine it has the best picture i've ever seen on a Meat DVD bar none. So i'd advise people to tinker with the tele settings.

The only things I didn't like out of the whole show were the cut intro into AFL (although that is growing on me), and like you Wario I also felt sometimes that the songs were cut together a bit too closely at some points, so it took away a bit from the concert feel, it made you think there was more to be seen but you wasn't going to get to see it if you know what I mean. On reflection it's just a personal view, but I would have liked to see the documentary get cut and have the full show.

Nonetheless, it's a fantastic watch and I also love listening to the CD elsewhere, so i'd like to give a big heartfelt thanks to Meat and the band for doing an incredible job. THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH, THANK YOU!!!

kkzag 09 Oct 2012 01:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 578005)
Thanks for your review Wario :-) I haven't gotten my copy so I can't comment on anything you've posted ;)
but Rock & Roll Dreams and Peace On Earth are two of the songs that I'm truly looking forward to seeing :D


Me neither Vic...hoping tomorrow since today was a holiday, but I'm working day shift tomorrow! :shit:

(still can't believe there is an icon for SHIT! LOL)

Hopefully I will be blastin the house down after the kids finish their homework tomorrow NIGHT!
:panic:

Vickip 09 Oct 2012 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kkzag (Post 578032)
Me neither Vic...hoping tomorrow since today was a holiday, but I'm working day shift tomorrow! :shit:

(still can't believe there is an icon for SHIT! LOL)

Hopefully I will be blastin the house down after the kids finish their homework tomorrow NIGHT!
:panic:

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for both of us Kar :-)

melon 09 Oct 2012 11:19

Just heard from JB HI FI here in Aus. It will definately be released on Blu Ray and they are not sure yet if it will be a CD/DVD pack. Release in Nov.

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tonyloaf 09 Oct 2012 13:07

sweet!!! another concert in my front room!

melon 09 Oct 2012 13:31

Also..... all these screen caps being posted are a fair bit clearer than I'm seeing them on TV, so I'm thinking it's nothing to do with the DVD

PanicLord 09 Oct 2012 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 578039)
Just heard from JB HI FI here in Aus. It will definately be released on Blu Ray and they are not sure yet if it will be a CD/DVD pack. Release in Nov.

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Nice hope it's region free!

Cherry.Loaf 09 Oct 2012 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanicLord (Post 578043)
Nice hope it's region free!

I think Blu rays are always region free :)

roomster 09 Oct 2012 14:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry.Loaf (Post 578044)
I think Blu rays are always region free :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes

A
Includes most North, Central and South American and Southeast Asian countries plus Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong, Macau and Korea.

B
Includes most European countries, African and Southwest Asian countries plus Australia and New Zealand.

C
Includes the remaining central and south Asian countries, as well as China and Russia.

Vickip 09 Oct 2012 14:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by roomster (Post 578045)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes

A
Includes most North, Central and South American and Southeast Asian countries plus Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong, Macau and Korea.

B
Includes most European countries, African and Southwest Asian countries plus Australia and New Zealand.

C
Includes the remaining central and south Asian countries, as well as China and Russia.

I always thought blu rays were region free too .. thanks for the information !

Smithie 09 Oct 2012 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 578002)
No Teletubbies? Good. :twisted:

Yes, the Teletubbies were cut. The weird Wonderland characters didn't make any sense in the song to me either. Meat said he and Patti were going on a date but we never got to see the date because the play-by-play started before they were back onstage. Otherwise, Paradise had fantastic vocals, chemistry, and improv by Meat and Patti. I didn't really like the segment before Paradise. I know they were stalling because of a costume change, but there would have been time for another song in the setlist at that point.

Smithie 09 Oct 2012 16:34

It's really interesting to read everyone's differing opinions and tastes. The highlight for me was the vocals. Meat sounded really great. Way to go! Patti sounded fantastic, but I wish she had the opportunity to sing more lead. The band is talented but the instrumentals were much too long for my taste. There would have been time for a couple extra songs if the instrumentals were shortened. I did enjoy the instrumentals in Rock N Roll Dreams, but not in Two Out of Three- it sounded like a different song to me. My favorites on the dvd were actually the new songs- LOTO, LA, and SITS. The documentary was a big letdown for me- no interviews with the band and the interview with Patti was omitted. Very disappointing. But nice job by Meat, Patti, and the band.

ShelbyLee 09 Oct 2012 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by JennaG (Post 578010)
I didn't rate the documentary all that highly. I'd have preferred an 'In Search of Paradise' type documentary which followed Meat and the band rather than having all that talk from those crew members.

The documentary is very disappointing. I recall Meat mentioning the band, but not a word about Patti. I feel sad for her. I can't believe they left her out.

Monstro 09 Oct 2012 18:54

I suppose at some point I really ought to buy this :D

loaferman61 09 Oct 2012 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithie (Post 578048)
It's really interesting to read everyone's differing opinions and tastes. The highlight for me was the vocals. Meat sounded really great. Way to go! Patti sounded fantastic, but I wish she had the opportunity to sing more lead. The band is talented but the instrumentals were much too long for my taste. There would have been time for a couple extra songs if the instrumentals were shortened. I did enjoy the instrumentals in Rock N Roll Dreams, but not in Two Out of Three- it sounded like a different song to me. My favorites on the dvd were actually the new songs- LOTO, LA, and SITS. The documentary was a big letdown for me- no interviews with the band and the interview with Patti was omitted. Very disappointing. But nice job by Meat, Patti, and the band.

I haven't received my copy yet, but didn't Wario say "Paradise" was 26 minutes long? If they had not edited it the DVD would have consisted of around 3 or 4 songs. Sometimes "Paradise" runs on a bit too long, I think they got it about perfect on the MMW tour, but I did not time it or anything LOL.

razorball2002 09 Oct 2012 19:56

The DVD is great, the show great, Meat's energy is ok. But most of it is vocally re-done, I don't know if they re-do the vocals in the studio or if they just record Meats voice at the show and autotune it, anyone can help me to know how they do it?
Oh and for the sceptics, please watch/hear the beginning of Hot Patootie on the documentary and compare it to the "remastered" version of the Live DVD.
This is my personal opinion, but I would have preferrerd to have a DVD of The UK Hang Cool Tour, as his voice was exellent and wouldn't have needed so many overdubbs.
I understand this is a product that goes to the masses, but as a fan I prefer Meat's "real" voice, even if it is shot (and apparently it was shot in Australia).

Wario 09 Oct 2012 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by loaferman61 (Post 578057)
I haven't received my copy yet, but didn't Wario say "Paradise" was 26 minutes long? .

These are the times of each track on the DVD:

http://media.mlxxfc.net/Screen shot ...2.28.30 PM.png

Also, im gald the vocals have been redone. Meat sounds sooo soo sooo good and I love it!!!!! Yeah a UK show wouldve been better (with DRFL and SOM) its stil la great disk. My favorite DVD of the year.

robgomm 09 Oct 2012 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by razorball2002 (Post 578058)
The DVD is great, the show great, Meat's energy is ok. But most of it is vocally re-done, I don't know if they re-do the vocals in the studio or if they just record Meats voice at the show and autotune it, anyone can help me to know how they do it?
Oh and for the sceptics, please watch/hear the beginning of Hot Patootie on the documentary and compare it to the "remastered" version of the Live DVD.
This is my personal opinion, but I would have preferrerd to have a DVD of The UK Hang Cool Tour, as his voice was exellent and wouldn't have needed so many overdubbs.
I understand this is a product that goes to the masses, but as a fan I prefer Meat's "real" voice, even if it is shot (and apparently it was shot in Australia).

Okay first of all Meat said they were keeping about 80% of the vocals so actually you're way wrong, most of the vocals are genuine. Also I remember in exactly the same post he said he wasn't happy with Hot Patootie so yes that was one of the songs redone. Please try to get your facts straight before stating you know something to be true. Either way, the vast majority of the performance is genuine from on the night.

loaferman61 09 Oct 2012 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578059)
Also, im gald the vocals have been redone. Meat sounds sooo soo sooo good and I love it!!!!! Yeah a UK show wouldve been better (with DRFL and SOM) its stil la great disk. My favorite DVD of the year.

Me too. I want a great sounding performance no matter what had to be done to make it the best possible . Almost every "live" CD and DVD had fixes done. Some of the most famous "Live" albums of all time were not really live at all yet sold multi-platinum. I'm sure if Meat had been psychic he would have chosen a show without a bleeding vocal chord but he went on anyway as a true pro does. I just got my copy and can't wait until my meeting tonight ends so I can finally experience it. I just moved apartments so I guess I better not blast it too loud at night LOL.

PanicLord 09 Oct 2012 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by roomster (Post 578045)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes

A
Includes most North, Central and South American and Southeast Asian countries plus Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong, Macau and Korea.

B
Includes most European countries, African and Southwest Asian countries plus Australia and New Zealand.

C
Includes the remaining central and south Asian countries, as well as China and Russia.

Yay you are in my region!

LisaT 10 Oct 2012 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 578054)
I suppose at some point I really ought to buy this :D

Seriously, you haven't got it yet? :shock:

Monstro 10 Oct 2012 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by LisaT (Post 578077)
Seriously, you haven't got it yet? :shock:

Nope, not yet

Jayd 10 Oct 2012 01:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanicLord (Post 578043)
Nice hope it's region free!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherry.Loaf (Post 578044)
I think Blu rays are always region free :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by roomster (Post 578045)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#Region_codes

A
Includes most North, Central and South American and Southeast Asian countries plus Taiwan, Japan, Hong Kong, Macau and Korea.

B
Includes most European countries, African and Southwest Asian countries plus Australia and New Zealand.

C
Includes the remaining central and south Asian countries, as well as China and Russia.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 578046)
I always thought blu rays were region free too .. thanks for the information !

Nope, afraid not, not all Blu-ray's are region free. New releases by certain studios like Fox, Disney, New Line etc region code discs still either A, B or C, depending on country. Hopefully with this not being a major release it could be region free. If it is I will buy, as I wil not purchase the DVD :-(

mikeloaf 10 Oct 2012 01:53

Paradise was a bit weird but it must have been an idea Meat thought would work, I thought it was funny. To be honest it was 10 mins too long and they could have done another song in that time.

Elijah's way 10 Oct 2012 01:54

the quality pf this dvd is terrible!! I think the 3 bats dvd is better than this but it's still watchable. :(

mikeloaf 10 Oct 2012 01:56

Well 3 Bat was uncut, this one is more like a TV show. It is not terrible!

Vickip 10 Oct 2012 01:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayd (Post 578079)
Nope, afraid not, not all Blu-ray's are region free. New releases by certain studios like Fox, Disney, New Line etc region code discs still either A, B or C, depending on country. Hopefully with this not being a major release it could be region free. If it is I will buy, as I wil not purchase the DVD :-(

Ah ... thanks for the clarification Jayd :-) Hopefully it will be region free and you'll get a copy.

Vickip 10 Oct 2012 02:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monstro (Post 578078)
Nope, not yet

I haven't gotten my copy yet either .... it's still "coming soon" :lol:

kkzag 10 Oct 2012 03:08

LOVE IT.....That is ALL!

Dancing around my living room without obstructing anyone's view!!

:weee::weee::weee:



DVD went "POP" then blank during TTW...My heart stopped! :pray:

Thankfully a minor electrical problem...(sparks in the outlet) :shock:

I found a REALLY long extension cord and continued dancing!

Can't blast my surround sound too loud... kids/school, but come this week-end...look out neighbors!!!

Thank-you Meat & the band

I will cherish the memories of my summer 2012 MMW tour FOREVER...YOU ROCK!

xo


~Kar

Wario 10 Oct 2012 04:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeloaf (Post 578083)
Well 3 Bat was uncut, this one is more like a TV show. It is not terrible!

the only things cut here were some banters and mercury blues cause concert one sucks.

3 bats needed to be trimmed

loaferman61 10 Oct 2012 04:52

I got a defective disc that started having freeze up issues after a few audio glitches early on. Still I have seen the DVD and think overall it was very good. As stated I am glad they did any overdubs they did. Watching at home is a different experience than seeing it live so some things that were great live come across totally different. I have no major issues. The majority of it was excellent. The dark parts are not as much of a concern on the big screen and I had no issues with the echo that was mentioned. Other than "Paradise" seeming to be 3 days long, it was a very good effort. Far superior to 3 Bats. I thought the first half flew by in comparison to the second part. Thank You to Meat and Paul for the work you put into this DVD. It is the best of the Meat Loaf DVD releases.

JennaG 10 Oct 2012 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by razorball2002 (Post 578058)
The DVD is great, the show great, Meat's energy is ok. But most of it is vocally re-done, I don't know if they re-do the vocals in the studio or if they just record Meats voice at the show and autotune it, anyone can help me to know how they do it?

How many people out of the thousands of fans Meat has are even going to notice that there were some edits to the vocals? There might be a few but I don't think that the majority of people are actually going to be all that worried.

When I buy a DVD I ask myself whether I enjoyed watching it and would I watch it again? The answer to both is a definate YES and quite frankly I couldn't care less that some of the vocals had had been redone because I enjoyed watching and listening to it.

The only things I felt were superior on 3 Bats Live were the Special Features (and the In Search of Paradise Documentary) and the picture quality but in my opinion, this new DVD is a superior performance.

razorball2002 10 Oct 2012 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578065)
Okay first of all Meat said they were keeping about 80% of the vocals so actually you're way wrong, most of the vocals are genuine. Also I remember in exactly the same post he said he wasn't happy with Hot Patootie so yes that was one of the songs redone. Please try to get your facts straight before stating you know something to be true. Either way, the vast majority of the performance is genuine from on the night.

Uh sorry then it must be true :-)

loaferman61 10 Oct 2012 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by JennaG (Post 578090)
How many people out of the thousands of fans Meat has are even going to notice that there were some edits to the vocals? There might be a few but I don't think that the majority of people are actually going to be all that worried.

When I buy a DVD I ask myself whether I enjoyed watching it and would I watch it again? The answer to both is a definate YES and quite frankly I couldn't care less that some of the vocals had had been redone because I enjoyed watching and listening to it.

The only things I felt were superior on 3 Bats Live were the Special Features (and the In Search of Paradise Documentary) and the picture quality but in my opinion, this new DVD is a superior performance.

I think they would notice it more if it were not touched up a bit. Doing that is pretty routine. They were set up to film with all the cameras and Meat had a serious vocal chord issue that unfortunately happened at the same time. The only thing better IMO about 3 Bats was that it was better lighted. The new disc had too much blue light and was a bit dark, more so on the computer screen than an LCD TV. I am just glad to have a DVD that is this good other than my physical disc having some quality defects with freeze ups and skipping.

Benny 10 Oct 2012 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 577664)
Left In The Dark would be beautiful...and Justin on piano would take it places it has never gone before...stunning! I was a new fan and way up in the lawn for the Born To Rock Tour...I'd love to see the sensation you could make it now.

oh I agree, i love left in the dark. Also I'd love to see 'it just wont quit' love this song, 2nd FAV ever.

And I love the DVD, so powerful - and sounds great through my surround sound :) :D

Also regarding a storyteller show - I think this is a great idea. the storytellers dvd is so amazing, and i LOVE this the stories behind the songs...

Can't wait til your back in the UK Meat :D take care.

Sarge 10 Oct 2012 19:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578065)
[...] the vast majority of the performance is genuine from on the night.

How do you know? Were you at the show?

Quote:

Originally Posted by razorball2002 (Post 578058)
But most of it is vocally re-done [...]

I don't know if they did anything with the vocals but what I've heard so far doesn't appeal to me. Listening to / watching clips on an online store confirmed the first impression I got when watching the promo videos on SFM's YouTube channel. The music appears to be great, I especially like the guitar solos and the addition of the violin. The arrangements are very powerful and rousing but unfortunately I'm disappointed by Meat's vocals. I listened to the samples several times hoping that my opinion would change but to no avail. :( I don't know if I'm gonna like this so I refrain from purchasing it for now.

Sarge 10 Oct 2012 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 578098)
[...] the promo videos on SFM's YouTube channel [...]

On SFM's and Concert One's YT channels, to be precise.

PanicLord 10 Oct 2012 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 578102)
On SFM's and Concert One's YT channels, to be precise.

Honestly,the clips do not do the show anywhere near justice. Playing the whole thing really gives the feel of being at a concert and all the parts come together brilliantly in a way that the yt clips cannot match.

Vickip 10 Oct 2012 21:51

I got my copy in the mail today and just watched it. All I can say is wow ...... that was truly amazing :D
I truly enjoyed every second of it from beginning to end. Meat is right when he said that he has the best rock
and roll band in the world and IMO he really knows how to use them :-)

Thank you both Meat and Paul very very much for all of your time and dedication with this amazing DVD, for
for bringing back some great memories of the HCTB tour, and making me feel like I was right there in the audience at
Sydney the entire night. Absolutely stunning, and truly wort the wait !! Thank you :D

P.S. I agree that the clips on YouTube definitely don't do it justice.

robgomm 10 Oct 2012 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 578098)
How do you know? Were you at the show?



I don't know if they did anything with the vocals but what I've heard so far doesn't appeal to me. Listening to / watching clips on an online store confirmed the first impression I got when watching the promo videos on SFM's YouTube channel. The music appears to be great, I especially like the guitar solos and the addition of the violin. The arrangements are very powerful and rousing but unfortunately I'm disappointed by Meat's vocals. I listened to the samples several times hoping that my opinion would change but to no avail. :( I don't know if I'm gonna like this so I refrain from purchasing it for now.

No I wasn't at the show but Meat posted that they were keeping about 80% of the vocals done on the night. I'd say that counts as a vast majority wouldn't you?

I agree with everyone else that you really can't judge unless you've seen the actual dvd.

wizardofodd 11 Oct 2012 00:17

From what I see/hear from the DVD their are not a lot of literal dubs, Hot Patootie may be an exception. There are however alterations to the original vocal throughout, done during post production (there are some auto-tuned sounding moments) but this is just to make it sound more natural and easier on the ear, its what was sung on the night but touched up for the purpose of a DVD, All necessary stuff.

Anyway, I've seen this a few times now. Seem to like it more every time. The DVD feels more personal, gritty, striped down with a sense of realism. It has done an exceptional job at making the music and performance the spectacle, there is no hiding behinds dramatic sets and fancy pyrotechnics, it has the spirit of a no messing, back to basics, traditional kick ass rock show. The elements of media production and performance compliments each other perfectly. And the edit is outstanding, so well thought out and timed precisely.

mikeloaf 11 Oct 2012 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578087)
the only things cut here were some banters and mercury blues cause concert one sucks.

3 bats needed to be trimmed

Well I like both very much!

Vickip 11 Oct 2012 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeloaf (Post 578118)
Well I like both very much!

I do too.

DJLeen 11 Oct 2012 00:47

Left in the dark !!!!!! :D

Sarge 11 Oct 2012 01:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578110)
I agree with everyone else that you really can't judge unless you've seen the actual dvd.

I didn't jugde the show / the DVD. I said that I'm not overly fond of the way Meat sounds in the clips I've seen. (Wonder how often I'll have to explain the difference between a judgement and an opinion / a preference on this forum... :roll:) If it was due to the clips not doing the DVD justice, how come I like - almost - everything else? I want to like the vocals. That's what Meat Loaf is famous for (aside from his unique way to perform) and what used to grab my attention and made me admire him. If they fail to attract me, I'm not interested, sorry. I'm not keen on spending about € 20 on something that might disappoint me.

mikeloaf 11 Oct 2012 01:47

This DVD is really good. It might not suit everyones ideal but it is really good quality.

melon 11 Oct 2012 03:46

Well I was at the show on the night, and I would bet on more than 80% of vocals being kept.

There are only a couple of points where I think "oh that sounds a little different to what it did on the night" not that its an issue for me. I love it.

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suzieq 11 Oct 2012 04:44

Yesterday I received my Guilty Pleasure DVD/CD import. I knew it'd be hours before my evening would settle down for a proper viewing, but every last minute of waiting was worth it.

I have so much to comment on that I cannot wrap my thoughts in a neat little bundle. I can only relate that the DVD did it's job and then some because that's exactly how I feel after a show experience. Lord knows, I couldn't sleep after it either. :shock:

I absolutely LOVE the whole thing. You press play and whoosh you are off on the journey front and center. I cannot express how engaged I was in each song. I couldn't help but sing along. I was captivated. I don't understand a whole lot about technical things and the why and how part of it getting all done, but I know that if a mental checklist existed of everything I love in a Meat show....it would be all marked off and then some.

After a few shows on the Mad Mad World Tour, I actually let those shows eclipse the greatness of the shows I saw on the Hang Cool Tour (with the exception of one song on a very special evening). How dare I forget about the awesome Peace On Earth performances? And Bat being third in the set? Naw, just a temporary smoke screen by the Mad Mad World Tour ;) This DVD allows me to revisit those songs live. And by every ounce of his energy, Meat delivers it clearly in balls to the wall style.


Vocals: Oh Meat Oh My! Again, I don't care what was fixed and what wasn't fixed. I am one of the peeps that enjoys what Meat is put before me. While watching the whole DVD, I forgot that he was dealing with a Vocal Chord issue. Looking back now trying to gather myself, I feel so bad for Meat with that very point in time (for multiple reasons)....but he has managed to be the most consummate professional putting everything he had into performance, vocals, humor and love. I had no doubt he would, I never had one doubt about it! There are so many stand out Meat vocal highlights for me, I would actually have to scribe them down as I watched it again. The parts where the goosebumps well up or the my hair on my arms stand up on end.....yeah, those are the times where I want to reach out to Meat and say OH F~CK YEAH! {Sidebar: Bat third in the set and captured ON this DVD was a BIG F~CK YEAH!}

Musicianship: Now introducing, Randy's tricep muscle. He needs a license to carry that thing! lol. Next up, the talented Ginny Luke. I love her contributions to the songs. It was fresh facelift on some timeless pieces. The solo in 2 Out Of 3 is right up my alley. I am a fan of the extensions in 2 Out Of 3....I loved Justin's solo the first night I saw it during the Hang Cool Tour....and now I love this treasure from the Guilty Pleasure DVD. I think everyone is in accord with the tightness of the band and the skill each possess. They are all wonderful on stage and off. I love that they can bring Meat's masterful auditory plan to our ears.

Lighting/Picture Quality: The stage was lit.... I saw fog....I saw the band....I saw some graphics in the background.....I think I saw Alice In Wonderland......most importantly I saw Meat and I loved every cascading moment of it. My picture quality was sharp right down to the color of Meat's gum (you thought I was going to say eyes right?)

Documentary: I took away a lot of information from this "State of Meat Address", by some people who work super close to Meat. So close that they know his tenacious work ethic, always striving for the best of himself to give to his fans. These people "know" Meat and have said things we knew from Meat, but these are testimonials. I found the bonus footage a bit fascinating and drove home the ideals of Meat. It really just commanded the word I've always had for him, RESPECT.


Emotions: 1. The moment where he took to thank the fans back from 1978. (I am one, he just hasn't known of my existence for very long is all). 2. The very end where he mouths the words with double hand/body language gesturing. I. LOVE. YOU. He hit me right in the heart with those two simple things!

CD: Is now in my car for my listening pleasure.

Thank You: And much respect to Paul's production skills and for your intellect of Meat's visions. The band for the killer instincts to turn it up to 11!!! Patti for being Meat's beautiful rock. And to Meat, for not just this DVD but for all your generosity, time, and considerations for your fan base.....on forum and off.


Suzanne

suzieq 11 Oct 2012 06:04

I knew I'd forget something!

The Sex Music part........I tried but I simply can't ignore it, I completely went to a naughty place. He did the Meat groans and moans. I may as well fess up and come clean.....THAT WAS HOT!

Vickip 11 Oct 2012 06:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq (Post 578134)
Yesterday I received my Guilty Pleasure DVD/CD import. I knew it'd be hours before my evening would settle down for a proper viewing, but every last minute of waiting was worth it.

I have so much to comment on that I cannot wrap my thoughts in a neat little bundle. I can only relate that the DVD did it's job and then some because that's exactly how I feel after a show experience. Lord knows, I couldn't sleep after it either. :shock:

I absolutely LOVE the whole thing. You press play and whoosh you are off on the journey front and center. I cannot express how engaged I was in each song. I couldn't help but sing along. I was captivated. I don't understand a whole lot about technical things and the why and how part of it getting all done, but I know that if a mental checklist existed of everything I love in a Meat show....it would be all marked off and then some.

After a few shows on the Mad Mad World Tour, I actually let those shows eclipse the greatness of the shows I saw on the Hang Cool Tour (with the exception of one song on a very special evening). How dare I forget about the awesome Peace On Earth performances? And Bat being third in the set? Naw, just a temporary smoke screen by the Mad Mad World Tour ;) This DVD allows me to revisit those songs live. And by every ounce of his energy, Meat delivers it clearly in balls to the wall style.


Vocals: Oh Meat Oh My! Again, I don't care what was fixed and what wasn't fixed. I am one of the peeps that enjoys what Meat is put before me. While watching the whole DVD, I forgot that he was dealing with a Vocal Chord issue. Looking back now trying to gather myself, I feel so bad for Meat with that very point in time (for multiple reasons)....but he has managed to be the most consummate professional putting everything he had into performance, vocals, humor and love. I had no doubt he would, I never had one doubt about it! There are so many stand out Meat vocal highlights for me, I would actually have to scribe them down as I watched it again. The parts where the goosebumps well up or the my hair on my arms stand up on end.....yeah, those are the times where I want to reach out to Meat and say OH F~CK YEAH! {Sidebar: Bat third in the set and captured ON this DVD was a BIG F~CK YEAH!}

Musicianship: Now introducing, Randy's tricep muscle. He needs a license to carry that thing! lol. Next up, the talented Ginny Luke. I love her contributions to the songs. It was fresh facelift on some timeless pieces. The solo in 2 Out Of 3 is right up my alley. I am a fan of the extensions in 2 Out Of 3....I loved Justin's solo the first night I saw it during the Hang Cool Tour....and now I love this treasure from the Guilty Pleasure DVD. I think everyone is in accord with the tightness of the band and the skill each possess. They are all wonderful on stage and off. I love that they can bring Meat's masterful auditory plan to our ears.

Lighting/Picture Quality: The stage was lit.... I saw fog....I saw the band....I saw some graphics in the background.....I think I saw Alice In Wonderland......most importantly I saw Meat and I loved every cascading moment of it. My picture quality was sharp right down to the color of Meat's gum (you thought I was going to say eyes right?)

Documentary: I took away a lot of information from this "State of Meat Address", by some people who work super close to Meat. So close that they know his tenacious work ethic, always striving for the best of himself to give to his fans. These people "know" Meat and have said things we knew from Meat, but these are testimonials. I found the bonus footage a bit fascinating and drove home the ideals of Meat. It really just commanded the word I've always had for him, RESPECT.


Emotions: 1. The moment where he took to thank the fans back from 1978. (I am one, he just hasn't known of my existence for very long is all). 2. The very end where he mouths the words with double hand/body language gesturing. I. LOVE. YOU. He hit me right in the heart with those two simple things!

CD: Is now in my car for my listening pleasure.

Thank You: And much respect to Paul's production skills and for your intellect of Meat's visions. The band for the killer instincts to turn it up to 11!!! Patti for being Meat's beautiful rock. And to Meat, for not just this DVD but for all your generosity, time, and considerations for your fan base.....on forum and off.


Suzanne

I don't just like this review .... I freaking LOVE it :D Thank you SuzieQ for finding the perfect words to describe this amazing DVD ! Now I really have to go back and watch it a second time ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq (Post 578138)
I knew I'd forget something!

The Sex Music part........I tried but I simply can't ignore it, I completely went to a naughty place. He did the Meat groans and moans. I may as well fess up and come clean.....THAT WAS HOT!

Yeah it was :)) I can use some holy water right about now :D

suzieq 11 Oct 2012 06:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 578139)
I don't just like this review .... I freaking LOVE it :D Thank you SuzieQ for finding the perfect words to describe this amazing DVD ! Now I really have to go back and watch it a second time ;)

I completely almost misread that. :oops: :lmao:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 578139)
Yeah it was :)) I can use some holy water right about now :D

Yes, anything more will send us to the "One for the Girls" thread. :saint:

Mr. Happy 11 Oct 2012 07:27

I finally got my hands on a copy. Was worth the wait :D

For the most part, I think it was pretty decent. It was pretty much everything I was expecting, plus a little more. There were a few small things which annoyed me though:




+ The backing vocals. Why, why, why are they auto tuned? I always find the sound of auto tune / vocal correction to be one of the most frustrating things imaginable in my music. Here, it isn't too bad for the most part, but at times it's just over done. I can't listen to Stand in the Storm because of it.

+ Like Rob mentioned above, this version of Anything for Love isn't really to my taste. That's not really a critique of the DVD itself, just my personal preference. I liked it the first few times I heard it, but after getting acquainted with it I miss the signature piano intro. It's not quite the same without :( It's an interesting difference though. I still like Justin's piano work at the start, and John's drums, when they kick in, are just insane :cool:

+ There are times when Meat's vocals are on par with 3 Bat Lives. Two out of Three, Took the Words and Anything For Love don't do it for me at all :3 With that said, there's one note that Meat hits near the end of Anything For Love that gave me shivers. He holds the "do" of the "I won't do that" for ages, and it's just nailed to perfection. Very, very cool.

+ There's a few production bits which made me raise an eyebrow. There are parts where the audience noise sounds unnatural, it just sort of comes out of nowhere really abruptly and far too loudly. Not a big problem, though.

+ I never agreed with the lighting issues people were complaining about before the DVD was released, but now that I've actually seen it...yeah, I do sort of agree. You can't see shit at times.

+ The echo some people mentioned is actually really, really noticable at points. I don't really understand why anyone would put so much delay on vocals, but ok o.0

+ Why the hell is Rock and Roll Dreams not on the CD? I want to carry it with me everywhere I'll ever go in life >.<



Those are really my only issues and they're pretty minor :D There's a few rhythmic issues in Living on the Outside which is a bit distracting, too, but I didn't think it was worth a whole dot point :P On the other hand...




+ The vocals on Bat out of Hell are ~~~~ing amazing. I'm sorry, but that is hands down one of the best performances I've heard in ages. Totally, undeniably brilliant.

+ I like how they mixed up the spoken bit on Los Angeloser. The bass solo is legendary, and I liked the "No disrespect to any of the man out there" addition. I smirked :P

+ The intro to Took the Words is the best intro I've ever heard for the song. Justin's piano under the speech at the start works so well, and when it builds up to the opening power chords...yeah. I liked this :P

+ Rock and Roll Dreams. Do I need to say anything more? :cool: Justin is, hands down, the best pianist the Neverland Express has ever seen. The man's a freak on the piano.

+ Justin and Ginny's solo in Two out of Three. See my Rock and Roll Dreams section for more detail :D

+ The violin in general. It's such a good addition to the band, I love the tone of it. It's particularly awesome in Bat out of Hell, on the "I'll come crawling on back to you." Beautiful :D

+ Randy and Paul's guitar solos before Two out of Three and Rock and Roll Dreams. Some of the best guitar work I've ever heard. I like Randy's little laugh at the end of his. He knows he's awesome (and rightly so) :P




I've ranted for long enough. I love this DVD, despite the negatives I posted above :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 578109)
Meat is right when he said that he has the best rock and roll band in the world and IMO he really knows how to use them :-)

...

P.S. I agree that the clips on YouTube definitely don't do it justice.

I could not agree more with both of these :D

Elijah's way 11 Oct 2012 08:54

My biggest problem with this dvd aside from the terrible quality is the fact that I cant hear Meat singing most of the time mainely in RNRD but when I do hear him he sounds awesome. I just think whoever done all the editing and whatever else didn't really know what they were doing and made a mess out of it. I can't believe we had to wait a year for this, oh and what's up with bleeping out the f bombs??? It sounds really stupid!!!

I reeally do wish I liked this dvd as much as some of you but I think it's a mess and the only good things about it are TOOT, BOOH, POE, SITS and Boneyard

IMO 3 bats live is far superior than this and of course it doesn't come close to MSO

Live in Tunica, MS now that would be an amazing DVD!!!

melon 11 Oct 2012 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Happy (Post 578142)
With that said, there's one note that Meat hits near the end of Anything For Love that gave me shivers. He holds the "do" of the "I won't do that" for ages, and it's just nailed to perfection. Very, very cool.

I remember a girl sat behind me said to her mate "that was an amazing note" right when that happened

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Cherry.Loaf 11 Oct 2012 12:20

The only two negative things I could mention on the DVD was that the vocals didn't sound very loud on break it and that the I'd prefer it if the violin was louder on anything for love. Other than still love it and have made my boyfriend put the album on his iphone so I can hear it in the car whenever we go in it

loaferman61 11 Oct 2012 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by suzieq (Post 578134)
Lighting/Picture Quality: The stage was lit.... I saw fog....I saw the band....I saw some graphics in the background.....I think I saw Alice In Wonderland......most importantly I saw Meat and I loved every cascading moment of it. My picture quality was sharp right down to the color of Meat's gum (you thought I was going to say eyes right?)

Was Ginny the Alice character? It was way too dark to tell. Whoever it was looked fetching in that outfit :D :shock:. If I were going to edit down anything form what made the DVD, "Paradise" would have been the one thing. I thought it was perfect on the MMW Tour at about half the length on the DVD. But it is a minor quibble.

melon 11 Oct 2012 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by loaferman61 (Post 578170)

Was Ginny the Alice character? It was way too dark to tell. Whoever it was looked fetching in that outfit :D :shock:. If I were going to edit down anything form what made the DVD, "Paradise" would have been the one thing. I thought it was perfect on the MMW Tour at about half the length on the DVD. But it is a minor quibble.

Yes it was Ginny

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suzieq 12 Oct 2012 03:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by loaferman61 (Post 578170)
Was Ginny the Alice character? It was way too dark to tell. Whoever it was looked fetching in that outfit :D :shock:. If I were going to edit down anything form what made the DVD, "Paradise" would have been the one thing. I thought it was perfect on the MMW Tour at about half the length on the DVD. But it is a minor quibble.

Yes it was Ginny. :D Perhaps Meat adjusted Paradise on the MMW Tour based on what he learned from the Guilty Pleasure Tour. He's always changing and perfecting. Maybe he knew it ran long...but there was a lot going on. They committed to the scenes that played out and it took as long as it took. I'm glad to have seen what took place in AU because Meat usually changes Paradise every tour launch somehow.

I know he adjusted Paradise almost nightly during the MMW Tour because at the very least the story changed....Patti's lobster dinner got bigger and bigger every show (per reviews written and the shows I went to) :shock: . Then by Clearwater, he dropped the dinner menu bit altogether. I'm not sure what version you witnessed by the time it came to your neck of the woods.

So yeah, the length of Paradise is always a variable....I see it as there is no set time where Paradise needs to end. It takes as long as it does to have the story in Meat's head play out the way he wants it to be told/sung. That given, there are a few things I can always take away from a Paradise performance no matter how long or short.....1. The first kiss in the make out session (should there be one) is always a timely intense HOT moment. 2. there is always a humorous banter and 3. often times there is a shot to Meat's "big surprise" by the end!

The version of Paradise on the DVD was different than the Hang Cool Tour and at the end of the evening, I'm glad to have another version I have now seen.

Smithie 12 Oct 2012 17:12

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Originally Posted by Cherry.Loaf (Post 578147)
The only two negative things I could mention on the DVD was that the vocals didn't sound very loud on break it and that the I'd prefer it if the violin was louder on anything for love.


Was the violin on AFL added in the studio? On some of the songs, she doesn't appear to be playing at the right times in the video. I remember she tweeted about recording extra violin parts in the studio.

Smithie 12 Oct 2012 17:13

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Originally Posted by loaferman61 (Post 578093)
The only thing better IMO about 3 Bats was that it was better lighted.

I thought the lighting and the setlist were better in 3 Bats Live. There were so many great hits in that show. The audio is definitely better on Guilty Pleasure and Patti's back. I think a Patti solo like The Future or Seize the Night could have added a lot to this dvd. She didn't get to sing much lead in the show and she wasn't mentioned at all in the documentary. :?

Smithie 12 Oct 2012 17:19

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Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578059)
Yeah a UK show wouldve been better (with DRFL and SOM) its stil la great disk.

Something else about a UK show is the excitement of the audiences. During Dead Ringer For Love, girls were dancing atop their guys' shoulders at the UK shows. That kind of enthusiastic audience would have added a lot to the atmosphere.

AndyK 12 Oct 2012 17:41

I'm writing this on my phone with limited moderation options available to me. Which is provably a good thing right now. This thread with be cleaned in due course

Stop the name calling. Stop the endless cyclic arguments that repeat the same point over and over again. Make your point once and once only or you face deletion and a long break from this site.

Above all stay on topic!

R. 12 Oct 2012 18:24

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Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 578220)
This thread with be cleaned in due course.

Done for the last page.

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Originally Posted by AndyK (Post 578220)
Stop the name calling. Stop the endless cyclic arguments that repeat the same point over and over again. Make your point once and once only or you face deletion and a long break from this site.

Above all stay on topic!

Read, understand and act accordingly!

Adje 12 Oct 2012 22:04

haven't seen the dvd yet but can it be the teletubbies are edited out because of copyright issues?

BostonAngel 12 Oct 2012 22:10

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Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578226)
haven't seen the dvd yet but can it be the teletubbies are edited out because of copyright issues?

Very good point Adje. That could be the reason. I haven't seen it yet. will be awhile b4 i can afford it. I get to read all about it anyway & see some clips. Love seeing so many very positive for the DVD

Wario 12 Oct 2012 22:23

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Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578226)
haven't seen the dvd yet but can it be the teletubbies are edited out because of copyright issues?

I didnt see them at all. the way it was shot I dont think they even came out

Adje 12 Oct 2012 22:25

Oh, i thought someone mentioned they were on the show but not the dvd

loaferman61 12 Oct 2012 22:28

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Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578226)
haven't seen the dvd yet but can it be the teletubbies are edited out because of copyright issues?

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe they were allowed for use in arenas but not on video or something along those lines. Even without them Paradise clocks in at 26 minutes, so time may have also been a consideration. I like Little Bo Peep ;) at least I think that is what she is supposed to be, but wish she could be seen better.

Deena J 12 Oct 2012 23:24

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Originally Posted by loaferman61 (Post 578231)

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe they were allowed for use in arenas but not on video or something along those lines. Even without them Paradise clocks in at 26 minutes, so time may have also been a consideration. I like Little Bo Peep ;) at least I think that is what she is supposed to be, but wish she could be seen better.

I thought that was Alice in Wonderland? I thought I saw the Mad Hatter...

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allrevvedup 13 Oct 2012 00:04

I really do have a hard time understanding how some people can let themselves be goaded so easily.

It just seems to me that there are people, to quote AC/DC, 'Spoiling for a fight' in here and there are those that are happy to come up, or down, to their level.

If you don't like something that's ok and if you disagree or have an wave of disbelief as to how someone could dislike something then just take a step back and try to understand that not everyone will feel the same way as you.

Your 110 % might only be someone else's 50%...remember that.

If we were all the same it'd be pretty dull wouldn't it?

Vickip 13 Oct 2012 00:28

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Originally Posted by Deena J (Post 578233)
I thought that was Alice in Wonderland? I thought I saw the Mad Hatter...

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Right you are Deena :-) There was Alice in Wonderland, the Mad Hatter and the White Rabbit ;)

Mr. Happy 13 Oct 2012 04:30

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Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578230)
Oh, i thought someone mentioned they were on the show but not the dvd

They were at the Melbourne show I went to. I'm sure that at around that time someone mentioned they were also at the Sydney show, because I knew in advance that they were going to be there. I could be mis-remembering, though, that was a long time ago now :lol:

Kathy 13 Oct 2012 05:14

@ Vicki and Deena: lol, that's what I thought - Alice in Wonderland! I thought Ginny was wonderful btw; I loved her soulful violin.

I don't have a "review" just because I've been way too busy, but the DVD certainly deserves that, and thanks to Chris for his review :)

I loved Guilty Pleasure, and thought the picture quality and lighting were great! I just have an ordinary TV set, a big old Sony with a picture tube, lol, but the DVD played sharp and clear on it!

And the show itself is wonderful!! Meat sounds great, and it's so good to get these songs on a DVD, such as Boneyard, although it's been changed since AU. Meat always improves things as he goes along :)

For me it's so true that this DVD is the next-best thing to being there. It has that feel, that heart-stopping excitement of standing at the stage, that upon 1st watching made me half forget I was watching a video. I was just telling a friend today that there was a bit at the beginning of Paradise that I LOVED and it didn't even occur to me to grab the remote and see the bit again, like I normally would!

I don't know if that "you are there" feel is because of the lighting or the way it was filmed. I did love the way it was filmed/edited! Whoever put it together picked out really excellent moments not just for Meat but for all the band members, which makes it a very "personal" video. This alone sets Guilty Pleasure apart from any previous DVD imo.

The censoring during Paradise was annoying but I think someone went to some trouble to minimize the annoyance. The f**k yous sounded a little like they were through a kazoo to me. An actual "bleep" or even a dead spot would have been much worse. If they were forced to censor it, they at least did their best to make it ok.

I just saw Concert One's EPK Clip 05 tonight, with Meat and Patti (his rock) and I loved it, it was so sweet, and I'm both sorry and mystified about its omission from the final product.

I've only seen Guilty Pleasure once (including the documentary) but I will definitely watch it many, many more times! :)

P.S. thanks to Mel for your comments about the Sydney show; there's no substitute for seeing the live show :)

Vickip 13 Oct 2012 06:12

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Originally Posted by Kathy (Post 578240)
@ Vicki and Deena: lol, that's what I thought - Alice in Wonderland! I thought Ginny was wonderful btw; I loved her soulful violin.

I don't have a "review" just because I've been way too busy, but the DVD certainly deserves that, and thanks to Chris for his review :)

I loved Guilty Pleasure, and thought the picture quality and lighting were great! I just have an ordinary TV set, a big old Sony with a picture tube, lol, but the DVD played sharp and clear on it!

And the show itself is wonderful!! Meat sounds great, and it's so good to get these songs on a DVD, such as Boneyard, although it's been changed since AU. Meat always improves things as he goes along :)

For me it's so true that this DVD is the next-best thing to being there. It has that feel, that heart-stopping excitement of standing at the stage, that upon 1st watching made me half forget I was watching a video. I was just telling a friend today that there was a bit at the beginning of Paradise that I LOVED and it didn't even occur to me to grab the remote and see the bit again, like I normally would!

I don't know if that "you are there" feel is because of the lighting or the way it was filmed. I did love the way it was filmed/edited! Whoever put it together picked out really excellent moments not just for Meat but for all the band members, which makes it a very "personal" video. This alone sets Guilty Pleasure apart from any previous DVD imo.

The censoring during Paradise was annoying but I think someone went to some trouble to minimize the annoyance. The f**k yous sounded a little like they were through a kazoo to me. An actual "bleep" or even a dead spot would have been much worse. If they were forced to censor it, they at least did their best to make it ok.

I just saw Concert One's EPK Clip 05 tonight, with Meat and Patti (his rock) and I loved it, it was so sweet, and I'm both sorry and mystified about its omission from the final product.

I've only seen Guilty Pleasure once (including the documentary) but I will definitely watch it many, many more times! :)

P.S. thanks to Mel for your comments about the Sydney show; there's no substitute for seeing the live show :)

:up:

Wario 13 Oct 2012 06:20

just watched an audience recording of took the words. they cut a part where he goes "I wanna hear you sing so loud that Melbourne will shut the F***K up!" XD

melon 13 Oct 2012 12:57

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Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578229)
I didnt see them at all. the way it was shot I dont think they even came out

I think they did... don't quote me though

melon 13 Oct 2012 13:00

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Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578242)
just watched an audience recording of took the words. they cut a part where he goes "I wanna hear you sing so loud that Melbourne will shut the F***K up!" XD

And I don't remember this bit! Must have been overwhelmed :lol:

Vickip 13 Oct 2012 14:46

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Originally Posted by melon (Post 578247)
And I don't remember this bit! Must have been overwhelmed :lol:

Overwhelmed ? I wonder why ? :D

loaferman61 13 Oct 2012 16:43

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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 578236)
Right you are Deena :-) There was Alice in Wonderland, the Mad Hatter and the White Rabbit ;)

Thanks for clarifying, that part of the DVD was pretty dark.


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