He probaly was because it's what everyone wanted, and it's probaly what he wanted to. But I don't think BFG is anything like BOOH if anything it's more like Bruce Springsteen's "Born to Run". Left in the Dark isn't really like Two Out of Three, it's a very very dark track, almost a suicidal one. Lost Boys and Heaven are similar alright.

The buzz of excitement was still there when I heard that Meat was performing Bad For Good and Dance In My Pants. Back in those days before the internet we had to rely on getting a phone call the day after a show from someone who had attended to get a set list update, or as a worst case a letter a few days later.

Someone needing you and wanting you but not loving you wouldn't drive a person to suicide would it?

Meat recently commented how funny he thought it was that 2 out of 3 was played at people's weddings. Indeed it's crazy really.

Whats more of a straight up fraud of 2 outta three is "why isnt that enough?"


Left in the dark is a betrayal song. a song you play when you feel betrayed or lonely. Its actually a very suicidal track, like Steve said.

I thought the only "clones" on BFG were DIMP (paradise wannabe) and Stark Raving Love (which is in the realm of Took the Words)

i see no similarities between BFG and Bat.

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Someone being needed and wanted (perhaps "used") but not loved can also be considered as a form of betrayal in my opinion. The ideas are very similar but the songs entirely different. I still maintain Jim tried to stick closely to the same themes on that record as he knew those things worked going by Bat but then they forgot about the main ingredient as they got big headed.

Left in The Dark could almost be considered as the other person's point of you if you first listen to 2 out of 3. It could have been a woman who had someone she did love, who kicked the guy out, who is now left in the dark, feels cheated on and is now driven to suicide. Who knows, maybe the guy's name was Patrick.

I know some of the greatest Steinman song collectors around and they've never heard of such a thing. No one's calling you a total idiot, but maybe you're mistaken with the date?

Yet that itself wasn't COMPLETELY new, as it pre-dated BFG by a year; an infant version of the tune appeared on the soundtrack to the film 'A Small Circle of Friends' in 1980, along with early (instrumental) versions of 'Making Love...' and 'Loving You's a Dirty Job'.

I hope you have the will power to post it on youtube for everyone to hear and love :-P

She didn't kick him out- he's sneaking in the door- he's guilty. She (he) HAS been betrayed...she's angry and hurting... she wants to know everything, but she doesn't really want to know...at least not now, because right now she just wants to feel loved, so she'll put that aside...she'd rather be oblivious...left in the dark. Not suicidal, necessarily; she wants to feel... something.

It's all right there.

And I've always thought that "I bet you've still got a trace of his love in your eyes and you've still got his eyes on your mind" is one of the best lines ever written.

I love how you say "she" instead of "they" when the two versions i heard men sing it lol

Try this for size then ;)

YouTube Video

And there's also a Swedish version by Cecilia Vennersten called Lämnad i mörkret.

okay thats three versions by men now that ive heard

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LMFAO :lmao:

:lol: I was responding to Andrew's post- he used "she". And, I have heard Babs' version before; don't care for it that much. I do like the video, though- the Kris Kristofferson cameo is cool.

Looks a lot like Barry Manilow to me. With a bit longer hair.:lol:

That Streisand version is awful, like Manilow's Read em and Weep, weep I wanted to do after listening to his version. :D

Quite a few people actually like the Manilow version. Think it was on his Greatest Hits album or something. I would love for some re-recorded versions of those 80's tracks to be done in the future. I would love a new Meat version of Read 'Em And Weep.

I actually own the picture disc version of this ... :oops:

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Can't play it of course ... the nose snags on the base of the pick-up arm :lol:

Dave you've gone down in my estimation, there are some discs that need to remain out of even the most ardent collectors collection!

So, you've got one too? :lol:

Nope. I bit the bullet and bought a 7" copy of Streisand's Left In The Dark (13p from ebay if I remember rightly!). But Barry's Read 'Em And Weep travesty will not cross the boundaries of any property I own!

So you rent then.:-)

By the way. Who's do you think is bigger?:??::-)

Barry's version of "Read'em and Weep"" is pretty damn good, but I'd much prefer Meat's version. To many instruments making an annoying racket in Barry's version, and it takes away from the lyrics and vocals. Never liked Barbara Streisand's version of LEFT IN THE DARK. That song should only be sung by a man. I'm not being sexist, but it should.

well IFWQ was sung by a woman originally. Same with good Girls, future, and IACBTMN.

and i think left in the dark can be sung by a woman if, lets say, Miley Cyrus took a stab at it.

As for barry, i hate him for RAW. hes the reason Meat refuses to play it live....

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