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loaferman61 13 Oct 2012 16:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578242)
just watched an audience recording of took the words. they cut a part where he goes "I wanna hear you sing so loud that Melbourne will shut the F***K up!" XD

The version of TTW on the CD is edited perfectly. Been playing it more than anything else. Love it. The whole CD sounds great. I only skip SITS sometimes.

AndyK 13 Oct 2012 19:03

We've been a little busy recently, but on a road trip yesterday finally got round to listening to the live CD (The DVD is yet to come!).

The new arrangements to the songs are awesome, especially AFL which we both fell in live with ... the first listen was nearly a traffic stopping moment! If we'd had this live version with that intro a couple of weeks ago, someone may have been making an entrance to a different tune!

LucyK! 13 Oct 2012 20:40

What he said! :)) The CD is definitely a bonus to the DVD, so having not watched the DVD yet it seemed a bit random - 2 out of 3, Boneyard then finished seemed strange but I'm sure once we've watched the DVD it'll feel a lot more "together".

Pleasantly surprised with the CD I must say! Enjoyed having Time Warp with him not having done that on the UK HCTB tour, Los Angeloser was brilliant as ever, Bat was outstanding...

On a personal note I was surprised to thoroughly enjoy the violin solo in 2 Out Of 3...I used to play violin, it's an instrument I fell in and out of love with and generally I don't enjoy solos like that, but that was wonderful, and really took the song back to it's country roots (I was reminded of Jim's country version of it on Classic Albums).

As Andy said though...Anything For Love....my God! I was driving and how we didn't crash is beyond me, there really were cries of "OMFG" when that came on. Absolutely STUNNING. Shockingly good!

tonyloaf 13 Oct 2012 22:54

Agreed!

anotherday 14 Oct 2012 06:07

Wow. I'd love to own this DVD NOW! Is the US getting the same version the UK got? Or would it be wise to try and "import" it?

BostonAngel 14 Oct 2012 06:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by anotherday (Post 578273)
Wow. I'd love to own this DVD NOW! Is the US getting the same version the UK got? Or would it be wise to try and "import" it?

The UK version has the CD with it as well. As far as I know, the US version doesn't include that. In my opinion the UK import is the best value from what I have heard. I don't own it yet so I can't say from personal experience. Most everyone has given it very positive reviews.

Evil One 14 Oct 2012 16:36

This package really is a mixed bag. Some thoughts in no particular order:

  • The band is amazing and probably the best Meat's ever had. Justin especially stands out.
  • Meat seems to be enjoying himself and looks much healthier than on the last DVD.
  • Meat's vocals are mixed much too low. At times it is difficult to make him out which is odd as his vocals are (mostly) much better than I was expecting. There are a few shaky moments during Anything For Love and Two Out Of Three, but on the whole Meat does a good job apart from one song - on Hot Patootie he is not good at all.
  • Rock And Roll Dreams is definitely the highlight of the concert. Dave Luther's sax during the ending is tremendous.
  • I still don't like the Hang Cool songs, but Meat sings two of them well.
  • I like the new intro to Anything For Love and hope this current band gets to do the whole song for the next DVD.
  • Stand In The Storm is jarringly different from the rest of the DVD. I might be wrong, but I suspect a lot of studio material was used for this song.
  • Boneyard and Freebird are decent, but Meat's done much better encores.
  • The way naughty words are edited from Paradise is ridiculous.
  • Ginny has a great body, but the way her arse is put into shot as Meat introduces Patti annoys me.
  • Paul and Randy's solos are both lovely, but I think one is enough.
  • The CD seems a bit half-arsed.
  • But not as half-arsed as the documentary. It feels cheaply made and poorly edited. And as Wario has pointed out, the use of camera audio is not acceptable. And the subject matter doesn't really interest me.
  • All those gripes aside, this DVD is actually very good and I give it 4/5.

Or I would do if it wasn't for two glaring problems.
  • The picture quality is very poor. It's too dark and pixelates far too frequently. It's a really shoddy effort that shouldn't happen with today's technology and the DVD loses a point for this.
  • The audio mix is bizarre. The ridiculous echo effect used on Meat's vocals throughout is incredibly distracting. I can only assume it was used to make it harder to tell which bits have been rerecorded. The beefing up of backing vocals is equally distracting. Had Paul used this style of production on Hell In A Handbasket then I would possibly be claiming that album as the best thing ever, but here it is out of place and ruins the product. Which is a shame, as those two points aside I think Paul's done a very good job. Another point lost for the audio.
So my overall score is sadly 2/5 which is frustrating as there is much to like about this DVD, but I cannot overlook two major problems. Hopefully Meat has one more DVD left in him and it will turn out better. Just keep Paul away from sound effects and keep Concert One away in general. :shrug:

melon 14 Oct 2012 17:10

Re the picture quality, its not the DVD, I just watched it again on my tv in my bed room, and its much clearer!

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Evil One 14 Oct 2012 17:17

It is the DVD. I've tried using various combinations of players and display equipment and always with the same result.

PanicLord 14 Oct 2012 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 578296)
It is the DVD. I've tried using various combinations of players and display equipment and always with the same result.

Picture quality is excellent on mine. Wonder why it is so different for different people?

Vickip 14 Oct 2012 21:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanicLord (Post 578307)
Picture quality is excellent on mine. Wonder why it is so different for different people?

It's excellent on mine too ... and I was wondering exactly the same thing :shrug:

dukesofhazard 14 Oct 2012 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanicLord (Post 578307)
Picture quality is excellent on mine. Wonder why it is so different for different people?

Different combinations of DVD players, Tvs, connections etc.

Picture wasn't great on my 47 inch tv through my PS3, but that's set up for blu-rays rather than DVDs - I'm sure if I fiddle with the settings I could make it better.

Still hoping that the murmurs of a blu-ray release in Australia (or anywhere!) are true though!

Evil One 14 Oct 2012 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by dukesofhazard (Post 578313)
Different combinations of DVD players, Tvs, connections etc.

Then why do other DVD's played on the same system look perfectly fine? It's more likely that either A) Some people's eyesight is going and they can't see the errors or B) Some of the DVD's are faulty.

melon 15 Oct 2012 00:07

Tv colour settings?

All I know, is that one one of my TVs its blurry, on my other its fantastic. To me that says its not the DVD.

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Mr. Happy 15 Oct 2012 02:09

I just watched the documentary for the first time. One thing in particular that stood out to me:

"There were people around us that were holding people back, and at some point we had to lose those people. When we lost them, a whole different colour palette opened in the Meat Loaf world."

I'm more interested than ever in exactly what happened with said people.

robgomm 15 Oct 2012 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 578314)
Then why do other DVD's played on the same system look perfectly fine? It's more likely that either A) Some people's eyesight is going and they can't see the errors or B) Some of the DVD's are faulty.

As a few people have said the picture is bad now i think it's possible there may have been a batch of faulty dvd's that didn't record so well perhaps. This is a real shame if that's the case.

robgomm 15 Oct 2012 10:14

Going back to the show itself, i think that version of rock n roll dreams is worth the price of the dvd alone! And i'm warming to the new version of anything for love because of Meats great vocals during that song :-)

Evil One 15 Oct 2012 10:28

Did Paradise flow straight into Boneyard on the night or was there originally a bit of crowd cheering that has been edited out? :shrug:

melon 15 Oct 2012 14:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578338)
As a few people have said the picture is bad now i think it's possible there may have been a batch of faulty dvd's that didn't record so well perhaps. This is a real shame if that's the case.

That doesn't explain why mine is blurry on one TV and great on another

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 578340)
Did Paradise flow straight into Boneyard on the night or was there originally a bit of crowd cheering that has been edited out? :shrug:

No, that's how it went.

glamourgirl 15 Oct 2012 15:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578338)
As a few people have said the picture is bad now i think it's possible there may have been a batch of faulty dvd's that didn't record so well perhaps. This is a real shame if that's the case.

Might be. Mine seems pixelated on my computer and tv too, and there is an odd bluish tint sometimes. I still enjoyed the dvd for the most part. Not crazy about strings in Meat's music; I prefer the arrangements on the MMW tour. Overall, I thought the concert was a good effort, but the documentary was poorly done.

loaferman61 15 Oct 2012 16:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578338)
As a few people have said the picture is bad now i think it's possible there may have been a batch of faulty dvd's that didn't record so well perhaps. This is a real shame if that's the case.

I got one that freezes and skips. It plays fine for about the first half. A replacement has been sent. The only other flaw I see is too much blue lighting and a bit dark in spots. I can barely see the Alice in Wonderland characters during "Paradise" for example.

glamourgirl 15 Oct 2012 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578339)
And i'm warming to the new version of anything for love because of Meats great vocals during that song :-)

The intro to AFL can be done either way for my taste, but the duet part is stellar. I love Patti and Meat's vocals at the end.

Cherry.Loaf 15 Oct 2012 21:11

AFL is easily my favourite on the DVD; which is really odd as I don't tend to listen to it often but the intro is so beautiful and enchanting I can't stop listening to it!

Evil One 15 Oct 2012 22:53

I forgot to mention that the arrangement of You Took The Words is top notch. Hopefully Meat keeps doing it this way when he does the whole of Bat 1, but brings back the second verse. Two Out Of Three on the other hand would be better with a Paul/Randy guitar duel in the middle. :twisted:

chairboys 16 Oct 2012 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 578379)
Two Out Of Three on the other hand would be better with a Paul/Randy guitar duel in the middle. :twisted:

I didn't want to be first to say that, so I shall endorse your view and be the second!

ShelbyLee 16 Oct 2012 15:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by LucyK! (Post 578256)

I used to play violin, it's an instrument I fell in and out of love with


You played violin too! I played violin when I was growing up, and I felt the same way about the instrument. Imo, violin sounds a bit too weepy for Meat's music. I think cello might have been a better fit. There are 2 guys, The 2 Cellos, who create the most awesome rock arrangments of songs like GNR's Welcome to the Jungle.

ShelbyLee 16 Oct 2012 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 578379)
Two Out Of Three on the other hand would be better with a Paul/Randy guitar duel in the middle. :twisted:

Quote:

Originally Posted by chairboys (Post 578389)
I didn't want to be first to say that, so I shall endorse your view and be the second!

I was thinking the same thing. I loved Pat's guitar solo on Two out of Three during the Bat 2 tour. It would be interesting to see what Randy and Paul could do.

loaferman61 16 Oct 2012 17:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil One (Post 578379)
I forgot to mention that the arrangement of You Took The Words is top notch. Hopefully Meat keeps doing it this way when he does the whole of Bat 1, but brings back the second verse. Two Out Of Three on the other hand would be better with a Paul/Randy guitar duel in the middle. :twisted:

I thought they nailed Two Out Of Three and Paradise perfectly on the MMW tour, not too long but not cut down. I would like to see those arrangements kept, although I would have preferred the guitar solo have been edited off the CD mainly because I play the CD in the car (which is mainly where I still use CD these days) and there I just want the songs. I do like the edits on Took the Words and Two Out of Three on the CD.

glamourgirl 16 Oct 2012 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by loaferman61 (Post 578395)
I thought they nailed Two Out Of Three and Paradise perfectly on the MMW tour, not too long but not cut down. I would like to see those arrangements kept, although I would have preferred the guitar solo have been edited off the CD mainly because I play the CD in the car (which is mainly where I still use CD these days) and there I just want the songs


I mostly listen to cds in my car too. I would have preferred RNR Dreams on the cd over Two Out of Three.

I agree about the arrangements on the Mad, Mad World tour. The instrumentals didn't seem so long on the MMW tour, so the show had a better flow. And Paradise on the MMW tour was perfection with their Staying Alive dance. I didn't get the fairytale characters in the song on the dvd. I would have much rather seen Meat and Patti dancing on their "date".

loaferman61 16 Oct 2012 19:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamourgirl (Post 578396)
I mostly listen to cds in my car too. I would have preferred RNR Dreams on the cd over Two Out of Three.

I agree about the arrangements on the Mad, Mad World tour. The instrumentals didn't seem so long on the MMW tour, so the show had a better flow. And Paradise on the MMW tour was perfection with their Staying Alive dance. I didn't get the fairytale characters in the song on the dvd. I would have much rather seen Meat and Patti dancing on their "date".

Agreed. When I ripped the CD to my phone the song titles were about half incorrect and I think it labeled one song as R&R Dreams incorrectly. I had to go in and relabel the songs to the correct titles. I wonder if another couple of minor edits would have made room for LOTO? Maybe cut the solo before Two Out of Three and the spoken intros to the HCTB songs. I enjoy the violin part but it plays better to me on video than as driving around music. Still not complaining, for the most part I like the edits made on the CD. It sounds great.

Adje 17 Oct 2012 03:31

Well, some of you feared it, but here comes my review of the DVD (not listened to the CD yet)

But don't be affraid. Overall I'm pleased with the DVD. Still I gotta point out some of the things that stuck with me. Some good some bad. I will start with the bad because it's better to have a good ending ;)

My review contains two things. The production of the DVD as brought to us by ConcertOne and the concert itself. So the first part will be the production (again, I start with the stuff I disliked):

-------------------------------------------
The DVD quality screams: CHEAP CHEAP!
Wow, this is one of the worst produced concerts I've ever seen. There is so many things wrong with what ConcertOne trashed on us, that I almost have no clue where to start... but the lack of a DTS track is ridiculous!

How can you release a concert DVD, shout out that you used all sorts of HD cameras and dump a dolby stereo and DD5.1 only one the disc?! Every decent concert deserves a DTS track. It's the best sound you can provide on a DVD and ConcertOne decided to completely screw the audio fans by ignoring this. SHAME ON YOU!

Then there is the terrible picture quality. HD camera's? I bet they were, but something must have went wrong converting it to DVD. There is so many background noise I lost count. It looked like contrast issues combined with compression faults. But not on all camera angles. Just on a few which makes the video presentation of this disc look cheap. As if nobody bothered to check the video we are stuffed with rather poor quality. 8 years after Melbourne you expect to get better picture quality (which on the Melbourne DVD was outstanding).

Then there was the editing. Sjeeezzzzz, apart from occasional poor shot selections there was so much wrong with the editing it denied me to enjoy the concert experience. Although it made me chuckle when Meat Loaf anounced the quality of Justin and the shot zoomed in on Randy. The editor of this DVD didn't care, it seems.

During camera switches it was also painful clear that the end producer knows nothing of color and contrast adjustment as shots were completely incosistent and sometimes the same scene from different angles had 3 different color contrast moments. Wow talk about amateurism:shock:

Finally, I know I complained about the way the concert was lit. The lightning on the concert, I said, was poor. I take that back.I think the light could have worked if the camera guys weren't completely incompetent. I wonder if these folks ever filmed a concert before because it was a complete mess (the editing of course didn't help either)

ConcertOne, and I can't say it differently, completely messed the production of the DVD up. They present themselves as the new autority on Concerts but they have a very long way to go.

As for positive things, I couldn't find any except that some of the editing showed how energetic the show was

Bad: NO DTS
Bad: Video Quality
Bad: Editing

Score 2/10 (and I'm being generous)

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The Concert then. First the bad, but you will be happy I have more positive things about the concert than negative :D

What is wrong with Australia? First Melbourne and now Sydney.... Do you get the concert people out of their bodybags before putting them in seats? DEAD CROWD! Annoying as hell to see a bunch of non-moving people in the crowd. With the exception of twenty-something people. Cudos to them but the rest were a disgrace to be at a rock concert. Even when Meat tried to start them up 75% stayed unmoved. I even had the feeling that Meat made his Steinman statement (If Jim was on the front seat right now, he would be on his feet for these guys) to point out how terribly silent they were all being. Bleh.

Then there is Sits. I dislike the song and live it wasn't any better. Besides when that rap-nobody entered on the screen it was amood killer for me. I still don't get what makes that guy any good in the eyes of others. Oh well, I'll skip it.

Paradise was at times boring. The intro talk was way too long, the rave was out of place and the final talk about crying women was dragging. The song is long enough as it is and either play it as it is or make sure you have an act that is actually interacting. One of the less live version of Paradise that I've seen sofar. That said, as a Dutchman I had to chuckle on the 'Holland Tulip' remarks. Btw, the way the F*ck You's are overdubbed by the sax is too sad to be true

And finally, the echo-surrogate stuff sounded cheap and didn't fit the show. Whoever came up with that idea...


Now for the goods. I must say I was so enjoyed by the quality (or lack of it) that it almost spoiled the show to me. But luckily Meat Loaf saved the day!

So where to begin. Well I'm happy Meat decided to overdub some parts of the vocals. Meat sounds strong and entertaining!

Then there is this incredible band who do him justice in both their musical talents as their stage presence. The band is very wel choreographed and the fun, interaction and quality are impossible to miss.

Meat is energetic as well and his stage presence is fantastic. If the BAT DVD had a Meat Loaf half as good as he is on this show, Bat would have been a very good concert. That is how fantastic Meat is on this one!

R&R Dreams was incredible and the intro arrangment to Anything for Love was amazing! What a way to start that song. Two big highlights for me.

Then there was the Piano/Violin duel between Ginny and Justin. What a musical spectacle that was. Very entertaining!

So in the end the concert comes to this:

Bad: Dead Crowd (I hope they were put back in their bodybags)
Bad: Sits (I just don't like the song)
Bad: Echo effect
Bad: Paradise was dragging

Good: Dubs
Good: Meat Loaf
Good: Neverland Express
Good: Stage Presence
Good: R&R Dreams (one of the highlights for me)
Good: Intro AFL
Good: Violin vs Piano
Good: Entire show setup

Show score: 9/10

End Result: 5.5/10

If ConcertOne hadn't pissed me off so much with their lack of quality and the inexcusable fact that there is no DTS track this would have scored way higher. Perhaps I should review it again after watching it on an old mono b/w mini tv :twisted:



As for the Documentary... Disc filler in my eyes. I had prefered if they had leave this (also badly produced -which isn't saying anything about the content, which you may or may not like) documentary out so they could use the free space to increase the picture and sound (DTS) quality.

But it's plain obvious to me that ConcertOne doesn't care about music fans at all. They should be ashamed of themselves and if they have any respect for the fans they donate every penny they earn to charity. Because with what they presented us they don't deserve to make money on it!


Thank You Meat loaf for a great concert. If you ever do one again I hope you hve WarnerMusic or Sony producing it. A great concert like this deserves a great product to have it displayed on :cool:

tonyloaf 17 Oct 2012 09:16

should of been filmed in the U.K leg of the tour.

JennaG 17 Oct 2012 09:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyloaf (Post 578415)
should of been filmed in the U.K leg of the tour.

We'd have been a far more lively audience than I've seen on the DVD's. I didn't think the audience seemed that great on MSO or 3 Bats Live either.

carole 17 Oct 2012 10:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578412)
Well, some of you feared it, but here comes my review of the DVD (not listened to the CD yet)

But don't be affraid. Overall I'm pleased with the DVD. Still I gotta point out some of the things that stuck with me. Some good some bad. I will start with the bad because it's better to have a good ending ;)

My review contains two things. The production of the DVD as brought to us by ConcertOne and the concert itself. So the first part will be the production (again, I start with the stuff I disliked):

-------------------------------------------
The DVD quality screams: CHEAP CHEAP!
Wow, this is one of the worst produced concerts I've ever seen. There is so many things wrong with what ConcertOne trashed on us, that I almost have no clue where to start... but the lack of a DTS track is ridiculous!

How can you release a concert DVD, shout out that you used all sorts of HD cameras and dump a dolby stereo and DD5.1 only one the disc?! Every decent concert deserves a DTS track. It's the best sound you can provide on a DVD and ConcertOne decided to completely screw the audio fans by ignoring this. SHAME ON YOU!

Then there is the terrible picture quality. HD camera's? I bet they were, but something must have went wrong converting it to DVD. There is so many background noise I lost count. It looked like contrast issues combined with compression faults. But not on all camera angles. Just on a few which makes the video presentation of this disc look cheap. As if nobody bothered to check the video we are stuffed with rather poor quality. 8 years after Melbourne you expect to get better picture quality (which on the Melbourne DVD was outstanding).

Then there was the editing. Sjeeezzzzz, apart from occasional poor shot selections there was so much wrong with the editing it denied me to enjoy the concert experience. Although it made me chuckle when Meat Loaf anounced the quality of Justin and the shot zoomed in on Randy. The editor of this DVD didn't care, it seems.

During camera switches it was also painful clear that the end producer knows nothing of color and contrast adjustment as shots were completely incosistent and sometimes the same scene from different angles had 3 different color contrast moments. Wow talk about amateurism:shock:

Finally, I know I complained about the way the concert was lit. The lightning on the concert, I said, was poor. I take that back.I think the light could have worked if the camera guys weren't completely incompetent. I wonder if these folks ever filmed a concert before because it was a complete mess (the editing of course didn't help either)

ConcertOne, and I can't say it differently, completely messed the production of the DVD up. They present themselves as the new autority on Concerts but they have a very long way to go.

As for positive things, I couldn't find any except that some of the editing showed how energetic the show was

Bad: NO DTS
Bad: Video Quality
Bad: Editing

Score 2/10 (and I'm being generous)

---------------------
The Concert then. First the bad, but you will be happy I have more positive things about the concert than negative :D

What is wrong with Australia? First Melbourne and now Sydney.... Do you get the concert people out of their bodybags before putting them in seats? DEAD CROWD! Annoying as hell to see a bunch of non-moving people in the crowd. With the exception of twenty-something people. Cudos to them but the rest were a disgrace to be at a rock concert. Even when Meat tried to start them up 75% stayed unmoved. I even had the feeling that Meat made his Steinman statement (If Jim was on the front seat right now, he would be on his feet for these guys) to point out how terribly silent they were all being. Bleh.

Then there is Sits. I dislike the song and live it wasn't any better. Besides when that rap-nobody entered on the screen it was amood killer for me. I still don't get what makes that guy any good in the eyes of others. Oh well, I'll skip it.

Paradise was at times boring. The intro talk was way too long, the rave was out of place and the final talk about crying women was dragging. The song is long enough as it is and either play it as it is or make sure you have an act that is actually interacting. One of the less live version of Paradise that I've seen sofar. That said, as a Dutchman I had to chuckle on the 'Holland Tulip' remarks. Btw, the way the F*ck You's are overdubbed by the sax is too sad to be true

And finally, the echo-surrogate stuff sounded cheap and didn't fit the show. Whoever came up with that idea...


Now for the goods. I must say I was so enjoyed by the quality (or lack of it) that it almost spoiled the show to me. But luckily Meat Loaf saved the day!

So where to begin. Well I'm happy Meat decided to overdub some parts of the vocals. Meat sounds strong and entertaining!

Then there is this incredible band who do him justice in both their musical talents as their stage presence. The band is very wel choreographed and the fun, interaction and quality are impossible to miss.

Meat is energetic as well and his stage presence is fantastic. If the BAT DVD had a Meat Loaf half as good as he is on this show, Bat would have been a very good concert. That is how fantastic Meat is on this one!

R&R Dreams was incredible and the intro arrangment to Anything for Love was amazing! What a way to start that song. Two big highlights for me.

Then there was the Piano/Violin duel between Ginny and Justin. What a musical spectacle that was. Very entertaining!

So in the end the concert comes to this:

Bad: Dead Crowd (I hope they were put back in their bodybags)
Bad: Sits (I just don't like the song)
Bad: Echo effect
Bad: Paradise was dragging

Good: Dubs
Good: Meat Loaf
Good: Neverland Express
Good: Stage Presence
Good: R&R Dreams (one of the highlights for me)
Good: Intro AFL
Good: Violin vs Piano
Good: Entire show setup

Show score: 9/10

End Result: 5.5/10

If ConcertOne hadn't pissed me off so much with their lack of quality and the inexcusable fact that there is no DTS track this would have scored way higher. Perhaps I should review it again after watching it on an old mono b/w mini tv :twisted:



As for the Documentary... Disc filler in my eyes. I had prefered if they had leave this (also badly produced -which isn't saying anything about the content, which you may or may not like) documentary out so they could use the free space to increase the picture and sound (DTS) quality.

But it's plain obvious to me that ConcertOne doesn't care about music fans at all. They should be ashamed of themselves and if they have any respect for the fans they donate every penny they earn to charity. Because with what they presented us they don't deserve to make money on it!


Thank You Meat loaf for a great concert. If you ever do one again I hope you hve WarnerMusic or Sony producing it. A great concert like this deserves a great product to have it displayed on :cool:

I was there and in my defense, I was standing at the beginning but the people behind me asked me to sit down. I don't like to make a scene, especially when trying to enjoy a concert, so sat back down to keep the peace. But later when Meat told everyone to stand up because it was being filmed for a DVD, I stood up then and stayed up for the rest of the show. I was disappointed in the audience response too, and wished they had been participating more. Usually I am up the front and everyone around me is standing, but this time I was further back and no one in my section was standing. I feel a bit self conscious being the only one standing up.

Carole

Adje 17 Oct 2012 11:09

Well you were part of the twenty-something I mentioned :D GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by carole (Post 578418)
I was there and in my defense, I was standing at the beginning but the people behind me asked me to sit down. I don't like to make a scene, especially when trying to enjoy a concert, so sat back down to keep the peace. But later when Meat told everyone to stand up because it was being filmed for a DVD, I stood up then and stayed up for the rest of the show. I was disappointed in the audience response too, and wished they had been participating more. Usually I am up the front and everyone around me is standing, but this time I was further back and no one in my section was standing. I feel a bit self conscious being the only one standing up.

Carole


A Slice Of English 17 Oct 2012 16:38

Having been out of the loop on here for some time, I happened to be in HMV yesterday and picked up a copy of the deluxe edition for twelve quid. Really enjoyed the new compositions on the live songs, really fresh and interesting. Meat's voice, which has been such an area of criticism and postulating lately was raw but it was pleasantly good. He was giving everything he had, like he always has done and I could really feel that in the way he sang the songs. I have yet to watch the live DVD and the documentary but it was a lovely way to get my day going yesterday.

Monstro 17 Oct 2012 17:03

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And if you don't like a post please report it rather than responding and taking the thread off topic

loaferman61 17 Oct 2012 21:05

Very good review Adje. I think Meat and the band did great. The rest is as you say. We get shots of people sitting with their arms folded and over the shoulder of someone recording on his cell phone and the parts that are far too "blue". I think filming without a wash light was a bold move and unfortunately it did not work out quite as well as I would have liked, but overall I am pleased with it also. I wonder if the swear words were covered over to avoid having to get a rating classification, especially with it being released in multiple countries with different standards?

glamourgirl 17 Oct 2012 21:59

I have to agree with Adje about the editing. I didn't like how they switched scenes so quickly, sometimes it was just a blur to me. So many times it was a shot of a random band member just standing there, when someone else was actually singing or playing. But there was great energy by Meat, Patti, and the band and great vocals by Meat and Patti and great music from the band.

glamourgirl 17 Oct 2012 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578412)
As for the Documentary... Disc filler in my eyes. I had prefered if they had leave this (also badly produced -which isn't saying anything about the content, which you may or may not like) documentary out so they could use the free space to increase the picture and sound (DTS) quality.

But it's plain obvious to me that ConcertOne doesn't care about music fans at all. They should be ashamed of themselves and if they have any respect for the fans they donate every penny they earn to charity. Because with what they presented us they don't deserve to make money on it!


The documentary is poorly produced, and I'm confused why Meat praises all the other band members but says nothing about Patti. Instead of this "documentary", I wish they had filmed some extra songs during soundcheck/rehearsals...Dead Ringer For Love, All of Me, Song of Madness, Bible and a Beer...That would have been a great bonus feature.

Wario 17 Oct 2012 23:44

The best example of this mediocre video quality can be seen on Two Out of three.

no matter what Ive watched it on, be it on a TV, Macbook, desktop, or ipod its the same deal.

Proof, notice the quality difference between angles. The minute the dark blue lights go on the quality of certain angles gets pixelated. very pixelated. On some sets maybe less then others (due to screen size, ratios of TVs, contrast, settings, and interlace settings) but its always still there vivid and noticeable as anything.

I have physical evidence, think i photoshopped this watch two out of three aint bad again closely... its the best example:

Good compression -

http://media.mlxxfc.net/vlcsnap-2012...h45m05s103.png

then the tables turn and some shots have.... this:

http://media.mlxxfc.net/vlcsnap-2012...7h42m08s37.png

Whoever was in charge of compression... who is most likely mr. Dan Hazell (credited as the video editor), this was horrid.

Buying the US release, cause maybe these issues are fixed.

AndrewG 18 Oct 2012 00:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578463)
Whoever was in charge of compression... who is most likely mr. Dan Hazell (credited as the video editor), this was horrid.

The name and shame stuff continues. After ConcertOne, the Australian audience, Paul Crook now Dan Hazell gets it I see.

A video editor is most likely not going to be in charge of video compression. I would imagine this is more likely due to rubbish DVD authoring. The original video will still be good quality as it was HD. AND in most cases this "bad compression" would be due to automated processes, much similar to chucking in a DVD in an iMac (still no RW Blu Ray drive?!) and authoring a 1080p video. Artifacts will be all over the place.

I am already surprised there is no Blu Ray but I am guessing this is simply due to costs as Blu Rays are inevitably more expensive to mass produce and author.

Singling out people seems a bit unnecessary to me and I think some of it is really misguided and misdirected in this thread as much as "off topic" my opinion on this matter might be!

Wario 18 Oct 2012 02:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewG (Post 578466)
The name and shame stuff continues. After ConcertOne, the Australian audience, Paul Crook now Dan Hazell gets it I see.

A video editor is most likely not going to be in charge of video compression. I would imagine this is more likely due to rubbish DVD authoring. The original video will still be good quality as it was HD. AND in most cases this "bad compression" would be due to automated processes, much similar to chucking in a DVD in an iMac (still no RW Blu Ray drive?!) and authoring a 1080p video. Artifacts will be all over the place.

I am already surprised there is no Blu Ray but I am guessing this is simply due to costs as Blu Rays are inevitably more expensive to mass produce and author.

Singling out people seems a bit unnecessary to me and I think some of it is really misguided and misdirected in this thread as much as "off topic" my opinion on this matter might be!

Youre right andrew, but understand this compression thing is inexcusable. Im putting blame on people who would most likely be at fault. I guess i shouldnt have done that, but im proving here that its not just peoples TVs, this pixillation is on the raw ISOs and VOBs.

this couldve been easily fixed by fixing the compression and pasting the new attributes of each clip in final cut.

AndrewG 18 Oct 2012 09:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578471)
Youre right andrew, but understand this compression thing is inexcusable. Im putting blame on people who would most likely be at fault. I guess i shouldnt have done that, but im proving here that its not just peoples TVs, this pixillation is on the raw ISOs and VOBs.

this couldve been easily fixed by fixing the compression and pasting the new attributes of each clip in final cut.

Or perhaps spreading all the content over two DVDs. I always think MSO would have benefitted from that too (not just the bonus but spreading the concert over two discs so perhaps that would have been a 3 disc set). But again it's a cost thing I guess. :(

robgomm 18 Oct 2012 12:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578463)
The best example of this mediocre video quality can be seen on Two Out of three.

no matter what Ive watched it on, be it on a TV, Macbook, desktop, or ipod its the same deal.

Proof, notice the quality difference between angles. The minute the dark blue lights go on the quality of certain angles gets pixelated. very pixelated. On some sets maybe less then others (due to screen size, ratios of TVs, contrast, settings, and interlace settings) but its always still there vivid and noticeable as anything.

I have physical evidence, think i photoshopped this watch two out of three aint bad again closely... its the best example:

Good compression -

http://media.mlxxfc.net/vlcsnap-2012...h45m05s103.png

then the tables turn and some shots have.... this:

http://media.mlxxfc.net/vlcsnap-2012...7h42m08s37.png

Whoever was in charge of compression... who is most likely mr. Dan Hazell (credited as the video editor), this was horrid.

Buying the US release, cause maybe these issues are fixed.

Am I the only the only person who actually thinks this looks alright in both shots? Surely it's more about the sound and the performance whether the concert is good or not? I don't actually care that much about the picture quality, so what if it's SLIGHTLY worse from a distance, you can still bloody see it it! Surely that's the main thing :-)

And I disagree strongly with the criticism of the camera shots zipping about all over the place. To me this is the first concert DVD that delivers the sense of energy and excitement at a Meat Loaf concert, and it does this BY zipping the cameras about. I think whoever did the editing did a good job.

LisaT 18 Oct 2012 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578483)
so what if it's SLIGHTLY worse from a distance, you can still bloody see it! Surely that's the main thing :-)

:lmao:

Adje 18 Oct 2012 15:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578483)
Am I the only the only person who actually thinks this looks alright in both shots? Surely it's more about the sound and the performance whether the concert is good or not? I don't actually care that much about the picture quality, so what if it's SLIGHTLY worse from a distance, you can still bloody see it it! Surely that's the main thing :-)

And I disagree strongly with the criticism of the camera shots zipping about all over the place. To me this is the first concert DVD that delivers the sense of energy and excitement at a Meat Loaf concert, and it does this BY zipping the cameras about. I think whoever did the editing did a good job.

On your first remark: A DVD is a VIDEO disc. So to me it matters. If it wasn't about picture but only sound we'd call it a CD :cool:

As for the second remark, I stated in my review that the only thing I had to give to the editor is that he shows on occasions how energetic the show is. The fact that he switches a lot can surely make the show more exciting. What bothers me (and some others) is the choices that were made. If Meat says "Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Justin Avery on piano" and the editor pans in on Randy Flowers... that's not good editing. If some energetic, powerfull lyrics are sung and we get a shot of the back of two, almost not moving musicians with a complete blue background, that's not good editing at all. And the problem with this show is that it happened a lot. Poor shot choices is not something you want from the editor ;)

And I can't say it enough, NO DTS :evil:


@AndrewG: Spreading over 2 DVD's is a good solution. Especially the bonus content.

Vickip 18 Oct 2012 16:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578483)
Am I the only the only person who actually thinks this looks alright in both shots? Surely it's more about the sound and the performance whether the concert is good or not? I don't actually care that much about the picture quality, so what if it's SLIGHTLY worse from a distance, you can still bloody see it it! Surely that's the main thing :-)

No you're not the only one :-) :up:

Quote:

And I disagree strongly with the criticism of the camera shots zipping about all over the place. To me this is the first concert DVD that delivers the sense of energy and excitement at a Meat Loaf concert, and it does this BY zipping the cameras about. I think whoever did the editing did a good job.
:up:

Sarge 18 Oct 2012 17:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578489)
If Meat says "Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Justin Avery on piano" and the editor pans in on Randy Flowers... that's not good editing. If some energetic, powerfull lyrics are sung and we get a shot of the back of two, almost not moving musicians with a complete blue background, that's not good editing at all.

Does that appear often? Is the editing rather random in general?

RSG 18 Oct 2012 18:54

Reading the posts on the fast zipping editing along with angles and energy have my interest in this DVD has peaked more. The DVD has a set list similar to 2010/2011's Hang Cool Tour w/ new arrangements it's been said, and that got me hooked to buy this DVD. But to learn that it is filmed with fast shots and new angles, Wow! For the first time since we heard about this DVD I want to see it and not just listen to it. ;) ;)

JennaG 18 Oct 2012 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578489)
On your first remark: A DVD is a VIDEO disc. So to me it matters. If it wasn't about picture but only sound we'd call it a CD :cool:

That's a good point. :D

loaferman61 18 Oct 2012 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578489)
On your first remark: A DVD is a VIDEO disc. So to me it matters. If it wasn't about picture but only sound we'd call it a CD :cool:

As for the second remark, I stated in my review that the only thing I had to give to the editor is that he shows on occasions how energetic the show is. The fact that he switches a lot can surely make the show more exciting. What bothers me (and some others) is the choices that were made. If Meat says "Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Justin Avery on piano" and the editor pans in on Randy Flowers... that's not good editing. If some energetic, powerfull lyrics are sung and we get a shot of the back of two, almost not moving musicians with a complete blue background, that's not good editing at all. And the problem with this show is that it happened a lot. Poor shot choices is not something you want from the editor ;)

And I can't say it enough, NO DTS :evil:


@AndrewG: Spreading over 2 DVD's is a good solution. Especially the bonus content.

I have to agree that I was amused at times when they cut to shots of John's shoes and way too many shots in near darkness with the blue light. I had to ask who the characters were during "Paradise" because I could not see well enough to identify them. I understand the choices that have to be made between capturing the live show that the audience is going to see once and one going on a DVD that will hopefully get repeated views. I may catch it for my opinion but the opening to "Paradise" along with the "sex music" and the skit at the end just ran too long. The characters that came out made little sense in context of what was shown. They edited out the Teletubbies and this still ran 26 minutes out of a two hour disc. I understand that is what Meat chose to do that night and I'm sure it entertained those in attendance which was his concern that night, but a good bit of post-production editing would have helped IMO. I know some will say I should not say this because it is a company Meat chose to work with, etc. but as I have said before Meat and the band delivered and I am still happy to have the DVD. I thank Meat and Paul for their work.
Why do I feel the need to constantly apologize when I express my opinion?

loaferman61 18 Oct 2012 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 578492)
Does that appear often? Is the editing rather random in general?

Let's just say if you have always wanted to know what kind of shoes John wears to play drums there are shots in this dvd that confirm it for you.

Wario 18 Oct 2012 19:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 578483)
Am I the only the only person who actually thinks this looks alright in both shots? Surely it's more about the sound and the performance whether the concert is good or not? I don't actually care that much about the picture quality, so what if it's SLIGHTLY worse from a distance, you can still bloody see it it! Surely that's the main thing :-)

And I disagree strongly with the criticism of the camera shots zipping about all over the place. To me this is the first concert DVD that delivers the sense of energy and excitement at a Meat Loaf concert, and it does this BY zipping the cameras about. I think whoever did the editing did a good job.

I guess youre right to an extent, but remember your money went to this product. The sound and performance are stellar but its a DVD and picture quality is really important. might as well been a two disk live collection CD.

On a side note, Ill be honest. Id have been upset if paradise was cut down. Its bad enough the good majority of audience banter was. I really liked paradise cause it felt like you were in the audience, it felt un edited sans the telitubbies.

I would preferred more banter and less of documentary. Banter is what makes a meat loaf show more intimate.

Adje 18 Oct 2012 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSG (Post 578498)
Reading the posts on the fast zipping editing along with angles and energy have my interest in this DVD has peaked more. The DVD has a set list similar to 2010/2011's Hang Cool Tour w/ new arrangements it's been said, and that got me hooked to buy this DVD. But to learn that it is filmed with fast shots and new angles, Wow! For the first time since we heard about this DVD I want to see it and not just listen to it. ;) ;)

Above all the SHOW is worth it. Meat and band are fantastic ;)

Adje 18 Oct 2012 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarge (Post 578492)
Does that appear often? Is the editing rather random in general?

It's 'fast-paced' edited. So very dynamic. And if you don't care what shots they gonna show you, you might actually like it.

If you expect the editing to make sense and add something to the show, you'll be dissapointed ;)

robgomm 18 Oct 2012 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578489)
On your first remark: A DVD is a VIDEO disc. So to me it matters. If it wasn't about picture but only sound we'd call it a CD :cool:

As for the second remark, I stated in my review that the only thing I had to give to the editor is that he shows on occasions how energetic the show is. The fact that he switches a lot can surely make the show more exciting. What bothers me (and some others) is the choices that were made. If Meat says "Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Justin Avery on piano" and the editor pans in on Randy Flowers... that's not good editing. If some energetic, powerfull lyrics are sung and we get a shot of the back of two, almost not moving musicians with a complete blue background, that's not good editing at all. And the problem with this show is that it happened a lot. Poor shot choices is not something you want from the editor ;)

And I can't say it enough, NO DTS :evil:


@AndrewG: Spreading over 2 DVD's is a good solution. Especially the bonus content.

Of course the picture matters, I never said it didn't, and the fact is I can see the picture, and I can see what's going on very clearly! So that's more than enough for me.

ForeverInBat 19 Oct 2012 11:42

I thought overall the dvd was the best of the three to date. MSO was heavily edited, and was made to be more of Broadway stage production than a rock concert. 3 Bats was pretty much awful, but this was incredible. The most realistic and really made me feel like I was there. The echo effect ppl are harping on about, again, gave me the feeling of being in the audience.

I thought the first half was pretty slow, Meat has so many better songs than Hot Patootie, Break It, and so until Bat I wasnt really into it. The Hang Cool songs are incredble, Patti's "I dont wanna die" gave me goosebumps, one of her many fantastic lines.

Took the Words is my favourite version of this song, the piano opening is haunting and beautiful at the same time, the whole thing is a 10/10.

Two Outa Three again, my favourite version of this song, the instrumental in the middle is without doubt the most incredible piece of music Ive ever heard any NE produce. I had tears in my eyes - I just couldnt believe what I was listening to. Meat - incredible Sir!!

Paradise was a little disappointing, it dragged on way to long. The vocals were great but the talky talky bit just was too much!

The encore in my opinion is the worst Ive seen, the songs are passionless and flat, in comparison to the last few tours where the encores have been incredible, this was a little stale end to the show.

For me, the beginning and endings are weak but from Bat to 2 outa 3, the gig is fantastic!

Moonlight shadow 20 Oct 2012 16:39

Ok, at least I've seen this great DVD show.
For all people can't assist to any concert is a good way to enjoy the good music taste and of course the sensibility that meat give in the scene.

Well, Let me express my opinion. Some people do not really appreciate the spirit that Meat Loaf wants to project ourselves in every concert. Their concerts are pure scenes expressed through music.
Meat Loaf's music is pure feeling, feeling acts each of the words coming out of his mouth. If you simply devote to sing the song just would not Meat Loaf and nobody would see it.

It has so many millions of fans that still true to the style, sings every song like the feeling at the time, and you will be transported to the scene if you can understand and live that moment.

Finally ...: How is it possible that there are people who come to the forum to criticize?
Are you sure you hate Meat Loaf?
Or it may be hard to accept that you can not live your life without Meat?

Think!

Meat. Congratulations on the DVD. I think I'm back to buy a great DVD.
Keep it up.

Antonio Jaldon

Smithie 22 Oct 2012 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 578489)
What bothers me (and some others) is the choices that were made. If Meat says "Ladies and Gentleman, Mr Justin Avery on piano" and the editor pans in on Randy Flowers... that's not good editing. If some energetic, powerfull lyrics are sung and we get a shot of the back of two, almost not moving musicians with a complete blue background, that's not good editing at all. And the problem with this show is that it happened a lot. Poor shot choices is not something you want from the editor ;)

You are right about the countless shots of Danny & Ginny's backs. We are missing some key moments and action on the stage because the editors continually put shots like that in the show. Focus on the action that is actually happening on the stage. When Patti is being introduced at the end of Paradise, there is a shot of Ginny's behind. That is terrible editing and even a bit disrespectful.

That is a comment for the editors. Meat, Patricia, and the band delivered a fabulous performance. Meat is a legend and he deserved better quality than CO delivered.

glamourgirl 23 Oct 2012 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578001)
First ill say what I didn't like: Living on the Outside, Stand in the Storm, and the documentary.



Interesting how everyone's tastes vary. SITS and LOTO were two of my favorites on the dvd. I agree that the documentary wasn't good.




I appreciate reading everyone's thoughts and opinions.

Wario 23 Oct 2012 20:00

The poor shot choices are more and more prevalent every time I watch it. it seems like this went straight from the switchboard to the DVD.

Wish meat would have given me the raw footage and lemme have a go. be good on a student filmmakers resume.

ShelbyLee 29 Oct 2012 17:25

Quote:

Two Out Of Three on the other hand would be better with a Paul/Randy guitar duel in the middle. :twisted:
I really hope I don't get this person's video deleted by posting the link because it sounds so awesome. The vocals are extraordinary and the piano/guitar in the middle are mindblowing. The MMW version of Two Out of Three is my favorite ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41uPZzNN6I

anotherday 29 Oct 2012 18:15

Really GREAT Shelby! WOW! Now THAT is almost as good as MN for ME! :D

Vickip 30 Oct 2012 04:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelbyLee (Post 579513)
I really hope I don't get this person's video deleted by posting the link because it sounds so awesome. The vocals are extraordinary and the piano/guitar in the middle are mindblowing. The MMW version of Two Out of Three is my favorite ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41uPZzNN6I

You described it perfectly ShelbyLee. That was truly spectacular .... I was standing pinned up by the stage literally under Meat's feet when he was sitting on that stool :-) Meat sounded amazing ... and that solo truly was mindblowing.

glamourgirl 31 Oct 2012 14:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShelbyLee (Post 579513)
I really hope I don't get this person's video deleted by posting the link because it sounds so awesome. The vocals are extraordinary and the piano/guitar in the middle are mindblowing. The MMW version of Two Out of Three is my favorite ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q41uPZzNN6I

I wish the MMW version of Two Out of Three was on the dvd. The violin sounds like a random arrangement, but Paul's guitar solo actually sounds like Two Out of Three and turns the song into a rockin' ballad. Love it!

Evil One 02 Nov 2012 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by glamourgirl (Post 579684)
I wish the MMW version of Two Out of Three was on the dvd. The violin sounds like a random arrangement, but Paul's guitar solo actually sounds like Two Out of Three and turns the song into a rockin' ballad. Love it!

:yep: That instrumental is brilliant. :up:

Tomjoad 03 Nov 2012 23:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fire Ball (Post 577625)
Was Patti in the documentary ? I paid to re-shoot it to get her in , If not my Train whistle will get real loud !!!
M

Well, she's definitely not in it.
Is your whistle blowing Meat??

Wario 04 Nov 2012 03:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomjoad (Post 579816)

Well, she's definitely not in it.
Is your whistle blowing Meat??

The us release was delayed a month, so I'd say yes it is

Smithie 05 Nov 2012 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 579821)
The us release was delayed a month, so I'd say yes it is

I thought it was delayed because they couldn't find a distributor in the US. Will Patti actually be added for the US dvd release?? They certainly had plenty of time to add Patti to the documentary for the US release.

Wario 05 Nov 2012 15:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smithie (Post 580206)
I thought it was delayed because they couldn't find a distributor in the US. Will Patti actually be added for the US dvd release?? They certainly had plenty of time to add Patti to the documentary for the US release.

preordered the US for at least a ray of hope pattis aded and picture quality isnt like this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 578463)
Good compression -

http://media.mlxxfc.net/vlcsnap-2012...h45m05s103.png

then the tables turn and some shots have.... this:

http://media.mlxxfc.net/vlcsnap-2012...7h42m08s37.png


Smithie 05 Nov 2012 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 580212)
preordered the US for at least a ray of hope pattis added and picture quality isnt like this:

Amen, Wario. Meat is a legend. CO should be ashamed for releasing such inferior picture quality and often-times poor camera shots. And leaving Patti out of the documentary (and all the times her face is blacked out) is just disrespectful.

Adje 05 Nov 2012 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 580212)
preordered the US for at least a ray of hope pattis aded and picture quality isnt like this:

Make sure to let us know how the picture quality of the US release is. If it's better I will buy it. Although the BluRay is being released in November as well... :twisted:

loaferman61 06 Nov 2012 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adje (Post 580229)
Make sure to let us know how the picture quality of the US release is. If it's better I will buy it. Although the BluRay is being released in November as well... :twisted:

I may get the blu-ray if the price is right. I may have to wait until it drops a few weeks later though. I expect the US version to be the same in terms of quality.

Wario 18 Nov 2012 03:55

Been told meat isn't very proud of the final DVD product.

and also that they hope to shoot one last DVD in the UK or Europe.

:D sweetness

Sebastian. 18 Nov 2012 04:01

Please be uk! Wembley 2013, MLUKFC front row!


Though I think he should be proud, I love the DVD and CD, all I'm listening to at the moment.

Paul Richardson 18 Nov 2012 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 581413)
Been told meat isn't very proud of the final DVD product.

and also that they hope to shoot one last DVD in the UK or Europe.

:D sweetness

Who / what is your source ?

robgomm 18 Nov 2012 10:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 581413)
Been told meat isn't very proud of the final DVD product.

and also that they hope to shoot one last DVD in the UK or Europe.

:D sweetness

He told me this too. I told him not to be so hard on himself and said it was great.

CarylB 18 Nov 2012 11:31

And did he say to announce it?

Dick 18 Nov 2012 13:21

personally if it were to happen, ok i would expect london but imo it should be dublin. Every time i have seen meat in dublin it has been ecstatic. None of this seated shit, all standing...a nice pulsating crowd...appart from the ones seated around. but yea, i think sadly the seats in the guilty pleasure show allowed the audience to not join in so to speak.

Vickip 18 Nov 2012 15:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 581420)
And did he say to announce it?

Exactly. But I have to admit that as much as I truly love the Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD, I would give anything for a video of
the Giving Tree and Mad Mad World :-) Those two songs were spectacular when I saw them live this past summer.

melon 18 Nov 2012 15:05

Here we go, Wario trying to show off again ;)

Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Forum Runner

Vickip 18 Nov 2012 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon (Post 581428)
Here we go, Wario trying to show off again ;)

Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Forum Runner

So what else is new ;)

robgomm 18 Nov 2012 16:56

I don't think Wario or I were trying to show off, we were just sharing what we thought would be interesting information for everyone from Meat. A little unfair I would say.

CarylB 18 Nov 2012 17:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 581427)
Exactly. But I have to admit that as much as I truly love the Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD, I would give anything for a video of
the Giving Tree and Mad Mad World :-) Those two songs were spectacular when I saw them live this past summer.

Though whether either of those will be in the next set list is less than certain, if the next tour will have hits in the first half, which was my understanding. That makes sense too if it is to be a last major tour .. all the songs would be likely to be recognised and greeted with huge enthusiasm :-)

Caryl

Vickip 18 Nov 2012 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 581438)
Though whether either of those will be in the next set list is less than certain, if the next tour will have hits in the first half, which was my understanding. That makes sense too if it is to be a last major tour .. all the songs would be likely to be recognised and greeted with huge enthusiasm :-)

Caryl

Very true. However, I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that Meat will combine The Giving Tree with Testify
(like he mentioned in one of his other posts) because IMO those two songs will be absolutely brilliant together :-)

Vickip 18 Nov 2012 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 581434)
I don't think Wario or I were trying to show off, we were just sharing what we thought would be interesting information for everyone from Meat. A little unfair I would say.

We were just joking Rob :-)

robgomm 18 Nov 2012 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 581442)
We were just joking Rob :-)

Okay sorry didn't get it :-)

Vickip 18 Nov 2012 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 581443)
Okay sorry didn't get it :-)

:D

JennaG 18 Nov 2012 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by robgomm (Post 581434)
I don't think Wario or I were trying to show off, we were just sharing what we thought would be interesting information for everyone from Meat. A little unfair I would say.

I'd have thought that if it were meant to be general information then it would have been shared with the whole group.

Wario 18 Nov 2012 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarylB (Post 581420)
And did he say to announce it?

Meat himself didn't tell me and it doesn't seem like such a secret.

Plus it doesn't seem like its a definate yet anyway. Note the words "they hope"

carole 18 Nov 2012 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 581427)
Exactly. But I have to admit that as much as I truly love the Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD, I would give anything for a video of
the Giving Tree and Mad Mad World :-) Those two songs were spectacular when I saw them live this past summer.

Same here Vicki, Giving Tree is one of my favourites off the album and I never got to hear it live. :( So I would love to have a live version on any future DVD or CD. :-)

Carole

Vickip 18 Nov 2012 23:28

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Originally Posted by carole (Post 581452)
Same here Vicki, Giving Tree is one of my favourites off the album and I never got to hear it live. :( So I would love to have a live version on any future DVD or CD. :-)

Carole

:pray: that he does keep it in the set list Carole and record it for a DVD
so you'll finally get to see it.

Wario 18 Nov 2012 23:44

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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 581453)

:pray: that he does keep it in the set list Carole and record it for a DVD
so you'll finally get to see it.

Exactly. So much excitment!

melon 18 Nov 2012 23:58

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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 581442)

We were just joking Rob :-)

I wasn't.

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Vickip 19 Nov 2012 00:03

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Originally Posted by melon (Post 581456)
I wasn't.

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I'm sorry Mel ... I was :oops:

Vickip 19 Nov 2012 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wario (Post 581454)
Exactly. So much excitment!

YES :D

Adje 19 Nov 2012 05:35

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Originally Posted by Wario (Post 581413)
Been told meat isn't very proud of the final DVD product.

and also that they hope to shoot one last DVD in the UK or Europe.

:D sweetness

Well as I stated before. The performance deserved a much better video + editing on the DVD production. ConcertOne really missed an oportunity here.

If we gonna get a new DVD in the future, let's hope one of the better production compagnies are willing to release it. But keep those ConcertOne people as far away from production as possible. :cool:

And it would be great if we can have a show from a non-seating venue. Crowd looks more alive when they are standing ;)

carole 19 Nov 2012 09:43

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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 581453)
:pray: that he does keep it in the set list Carole and record it for a DVD
so you'll finally get to see it.

Thanks Vicki. :-)

Carole

glamourgirl 19 Nov 2012 15:19

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Originally Posted by Vickip (Post 581427)
Exactly. But I have to admit that as much as I truly love the Guilty Pleasure Tour DVD, I would give anything for a video of
the Giving Tree and Mad Mad World :-) Those two songs were spectacular when I saw them live this past summer.

Me too, plus Our Love and Our Souls.

A dvd of the final tour would be amazing with all the hits and Bat 1. It's the final tour so it would be a great way to commerate the tour.

A tour documentary of the final tour would be great too. A real documentary where they follow Meat and band on the tour (and include Patti this time around).


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