back to work in a few hours, shame

may have found the next car... after a small 9 month search

Hell of a storm here last night. Didn't last for that long but I've never seen rain like it with hailstones the size of 5p pieces. The thunder and lightning was impressive and some of it struck just a tad too close for comfort. This tree used to dwarf my 4 story building and missed by 8'!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://media.mlxxfc.net/aftermath1.jpg

Thank you x (I think... lol...)

Well...iceberg lettuce will have somewhat different temperature...but iceberg and ice cube...probably the same although I am not willing to do the taste test...

i need a credit card

I need a credit card where bill goes and gets paid elsewhere...

Going back to the question raised about what's colder, an ice cube or an ice berg ...

It all depends. If the ice berg is pure water, then it's the same at the point of freezing zero degrees centigrade.

However. If the ice berg is made up of frozen sea water, which has an average salinity of 35 parts per thousand of salt, then at the point of freezing the iceberg is colder, since averagely saline sea water freezes at -2 degrees centigrade.

Of course the other issue is what tenperature each is stored at ... if the icecube is in a freezer which is at -10 degrees centigrade and the iceberg is at zero, then the ice cube is colder! Basically there are too many unknowns in the original question.

Tomorrow's science lesson will involve jumping on a moving train or light speed ... :))

:Stunned:

ATTENTION
*play on words*

I need a credit card where the bill gets paid by bill gates!! :smartass::smartass::smartass:

No, no, no. Absolutely not. It's actually making me angry now that I can't get my head around it!

My thoughts - what to wear tonight?! :panic:

BUT, an iceberg always consists of pure water, no salt.
- otherwise it wouldnt swim
- if it has been part of arctica/antarctica, it was fallen snow in the first place and that's pure water anyway
- it it froze in the ocean, the salt doesnt get frozen WITH the water, just the water freezes, the salt, erm.....sinnks.

Sorry RJ, no it doesn't

I think the antarctic icebergs have got some ozone in them...... isn't that where the holes first started appearing? The holes that apparently have now healed themselves...... probably with a carbon footprint.

sure? always thought so...

This is pretty weird discussion for a Meat Loaf forum...shouldn't we be all artsy fartsy and above it all???

Depends on where the iceberg was formed ... if it's come from a glacier then the chances are it's predominantely made from "fresh" water. If it comes from an ice shelf then it's a mixture of fresh and sea water. Even a glacial iceberg will contain some frozen saline water though.

Andy, did you see that Meat played Stone Pony???

I've known that for about 19 years Zina :))

Well, how was I supposed to know THAT?

I wasn't even born 19 years ago! :roll:

I always said you were the result of a laboratory experiment :p

No, according to my late mom, I am an alien...

In any event...better question is...how did YOU know THAT when you were 2 years old??? :wtf:

Andy...you're such....ummm...hmmm...the best moderator...:mrgreen:

back on topic :p

I think that saline water loses all it's salt at the freezing process. At least that's what I read somewhere years ago.

I'm quite confused now :confused:

Which means...GET OFF THIS TOPIC ALREADY!!!

Us simple humans and aliens got our minds boggled with this...

As sea water reaches freezing point, the salt in the solution is "rejected", hoewever this results in denser "fresh" water being created. This denser water sinks through the warmer salt water below it, with more salt water therefore being present at the surface of the sea. As a result when the solid ice is formed it is a mixture of fresh water and sea water ... ie a less saline solution, but not all of the salt if "rejected" throught the ice formation process.