Lorraine Crosby
 

The lady who sang on 'AFL' is now on facebook www.facebook.com/lorraine.crosby

M.I.B

she has been for a while

New single
 

Seen her at the Leam on friday night, another fantastic performance as ever, sang us a special song as it was our wedding aniversary (30), will be seeing her again in 2 weeks at Jarrow, Lorraine will be dueting on a charity single around nov with Bonnie Tyler for Heroes.

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That's my share of the work done for one day :mrgreen:

just asked her for an autogph and she got back to me and she is posting me one
yaya

could paper our walls with signed posters of Lorraine!!

yah my autograph of lorranie has come this moring she sent me 2 waaaaay!

What are the chances of Meat asking her to do a concert with him? I mean after all she deserves it she didn't get anything for doing AFL. And I wish they would do another duet her voice really sounds good with Meat's.

Well she has used this as a bit of publicity as far as I know and she is still doing shows in the UK. She seems to be enjoying herself going by her FB updates and she has some gorgeous girls in the band. ;-)
Lorraine did audition for X Factor several years ago but like anyone over 25 on that show failed to make much of an impression.

It's maybe a harsh statement but I feel that Patti's voice has matured so much and is so very strong now that even thinking about bringing in another female singer is completely unnecessary at this stage. :shrug:

A one off guest performance with Lorraine on AFL (perhaps when Meat is in Newcastle??? -hint -hint!!!) would be great though. :D

I love Patti as much as the next person but I can't help thinking that Lorraine Crosby was meant to sing with Meat Loaf. To me there even more a perfect match than him and Patti.

Shame he's not in the UK earlier for his tour, as the Children In Need appeal is on 19th November.

Lorraine does still perform with her band throughout the UK - sadly she has to do mostly covers rather than her own stuff as that is what 'pays the bills' - but she still enjoys it. She always does a few Meat Loaf songs in her set, including AFL.


Meat did bring in Lorraine once for AFL, but it was back in the 90's at Whitley Bay Ice Rink! It would be great to see that repeated but I think they would struggle to get together for rehearsals - and with Meat just being able to sing it is never enough - it has to be a performance.

I would struggle if Lorraine did AFL live with Meat, not because it's Lorraine but I'm not sure how it would work to have Meat and **insert name here** doing the song while Patti was stood at the back, just wouldn't feel right :?

Don't know if this has been posted but saw this today -

LORRAINE CROSBY
With Bonnie Tyler
At City Hall, Newcastle – 29th November
On sale now at Ticketline
https://secure.ticketline.co.uk/tick...all/2010-11-29

Lorraine Crosby was unlucky the same way Ellen Foley was. To be dropped for the music videos AFL, and Paradise was very sad, and it's all because of image. We live in a sad world....it must have upset them I'm sure. I honestly think they were both used. Lorraine got NOTHING for AFL which was daylight robbery.

Both had fantastic voices but lost a bit as they aged. It's good to see she's happy and busy fair play to her.

How are we at the conclusion that she got "nothing" from AFL? Admittedly it maybe didn't launch her career as much as you'd expect or hope, but she will have been paid and has used it as brilliant promotion to launch herself as Mrs Loud...

Such a ridiculous childish statement. :roll:

In fact I think Lorraine's new poster for her upcoming show tells you more than enough about what she got from AFL...

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=...4821554&ref=nf

I could be wrong here but I seem to remember that she laid down her vocal to AFL as a demo or guide track and once Jim and Meat heard it they decided that they didn't want to seek out another female vocalist and stuck with what they had. I'd say it was the other way and that she was lucky!

That's how I remember it.

A session musician usually signs some sort of waiver to say that the payment they receive for the recording in that particular session is for full and final payment so therefore if the complaint for Ms Crosby is that she 'only' received £25 (i think that was the amount she mentioned when on X Factor or the like) then that would've been the agreed amount at the time.

I agree that she has a great voice and that it is unfortunate that her tours result in her mostly doing covers, as can be found in many youtube videos, but you have to go where the money is.

But to say she got nothing for AFL and that it was daylight robbery is without foundation and ,as per a lot of your posts recently Steve, guesswork.

in fact, we've had this very conversation before, and Lorraine's husband Stuart came on here to set a few people straight. If I could remember the username he used, I'd search for the posts.

that would be stuart1234 on the x factor thread around june 08 (ish)

and that wasn't an easy one to dig out... but, its the quoting from other threads i can't do

The specific message is here

Bloody hell that thread is a blast from the past. Lol.
I've been following hat X Factor crap religiously ever since that year. Mannnn......

Lorraine is a nice singer and I'd enjoy seeing one of her shows. I have no interest in seeing her sing with Meat though. AFL is perfect on this new tour with Meat & Patti and their fantastic chemistry.

It's amazing how you seem to know the financial arrangements of people Meat is associated with. First Patti, now Lorraine...WTF? :wtf:

Thanks for digging that out Andy.

Lorraine was actually in the US at the invite of Jim at the time to discuss with the record company making her own album. Meat was in the studio recording Bat 2, and the studio had booked a session singer to lay down the vocals for Meat to sing to while he recorded his vocals for AFL. At that time they hadn't decided who they wanted to sing the female vocal - but they were looking for a big name (as with Cher in Deadringer).
The session singer never turned up so Jim asked Lorraine to stand in.
Lorraine was later dumped by the record company as part of a cost cutting exercise, despite Jim's best efforts, and she was sent back to the UK.
After she got home she got a call telling her that they could not find a voice that fit the song better than hers so they were going to use her vocal. I think she said that she only actually sang the song twice in the studio! As we all know she wasn't invited back to be in the video!
I believe she was both lucky to happen to be there at the moment the session singer didn't turn up, but also unlucky that she was a victim of the Record label money men. She could have been huge given the right breaks, but she is nothing but grateful to Jim & Meat for all they did for her, and as Lucy has pointed out she makes sure that she uses her "moment in the spotlight" to draw in the audiences. Who can blame her for that.
Best of luck with the show at Newcastle City Hall!

Exactly

*I have to stop clicking on edit instead of quote in people's messages :shock:*

I don't know anything about the financial arrangements, but what Mike said was false, I don't "guesswork" anything. I just read and try to validate the facts I have, and if you go to her wikipedia page you'll read the following when it talks about AFL.

"The song was a commercial success, becoming number one in 28 countries. However, as Crosby had recorded her part as guide vocals, she did not receive any royalties from the song". So maybe my statement earlier in this thread is correct.

Wikipedia is the most reliable source on earth, ask Wario. :twisted:

Here's the article for anyone that is interested...


http://www.sundaysun.co.uk/whats-on-...9310-13701538/

by the way not receiving royalities is not the same as not receiving anything at all for the session, which is not mentioned in the article Steve.

She received nothing for the song Mike, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah fair enough she did get a record deal after, but imagine the succees she COULD have had,had she been in the music video is what I'm saying. When you hear she went back to the UK with no money as AFL was topping the charts, it's quiet a sad thing to hear. The only card she has to play these days is the fact she sang the female vocals on AFL.

Do you actually understand anything that you write, or do you just make shit up for the sake of it?

If someone doesn't get royalties for a song it doesn't mean they got 'nothing' which is what you're trying to suggest. 'LOGIC' would state to me that she got paid a flat fee (and probably not a bad one at that) and signed over any chance of recieving royalties. I believe most session musicians do this and that's all that she was, a session backing singer at best.

When she got the phone call asking if they could use her vocals, if she didn't ask for more money or a better deal then that is her own fault. :shrug:

Why is everyone snapping at me for? I made a comment that she got nothing for doing the vocals which was on valid grounds. I now accept she DID get something for it. But I just think it's sad she didn't get better looked after when the song came out. I mean she was on a plane back to the UK with no money....NOTHING!! when AFL was topping the charts, a song she sang vocals on. She should have been singing live with Meat Loaf, and helping promote the single and album. But it didn't work out that way for her sadly. That's all I was saying.

So now you're saying she did get paid but still ended up with nothing, whose fault is that? If she thinks she's going to hit the big time and started spending her AFL cheque like a shopaholic on crack, then that's nobody else's fault but hers.

She's not going to get any cheque for doing the AFL vocals, that case has been done and dusted. She can use it as a tool to promote herself which is what she's doing but that's all. She got a record deal after AFL, but to the value of what I don't know, and I'm not going to speculate either. I'm sure she wishes she had been smarter in the early 90s. AFL was a missed opportunity to catapult her to fame.

Really? You could have fooled me mister.

You're stupid aren't you? Obviously she's not going to get a cheque now but she would have at the time of recording the song. You seriously need to keep up with what's being said, because this isn't me making you look like a moron, this is you making yourself look not very bright.