Meat Loaf joining American Idol ?
 

If this is true, it would give me an excuse to actually watch the show :-)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...87/?cmpid=rss1

It could be anything!

ooooo....speculation.
Thanks for the link.

OOOOO!

True ... but it's fun to think about :-)

You're welcome :))

That would actually give me a reason to watch that show, but I was thinking...

Celebrity Apprentice

Yeah I was thinking Celebrity Apprentic too ... that rumor has been going around for awhile now :-)

I don't normally watch reality shows .. but seeing Meat would definitely give me a reason to watch either AI or Celebrity Apprentice :wink:

Thanks for the link Vicki, i always watch AI, i am a freak i like it;) LOL...

You're welcome Chelle :lol:

I'm a freak too then, because I love American Idol! I also like Simon Cowell, which makes me even more of a freak I guess!

There saying American Idol but in the past, there have been articles of Meat being in talks to be on Celebrity Apprentice. So I'm thinking it's CA. If it is AI then I would start watching it again, but I doubt it's that!

hes supposed to be touring in the fall. how is he gonna juggle this :|

Good point .. I didn't think of that.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see :-)

CA would be neat.. i thought i reading he was relocating to NY, thus CA would be a good thought...
AI.. i don't watch it .. however i would if he was on it :)

If you ask me ... I'd be perfect for him ... but is it this fall!?

As much as I would like to see him in Europe ... on the other hand I am also thinking IF he gets a change like this, it may give him the change/freedom to get promoters to do it his way, for the next tour/album!

But this is all pure speculation, so far .. and what do I know lol

Yes, I think it would be this fall .... but I don't know how that would work with his plans for touring Europe. I agree, it would be still be a great opportunity for him, and definitely fun to watch :))

Yeah it's all speculation, but fun to think about :lol:

Isn't American Idol broadcast in the spring?

It does Andy.

Not a clue, apart from what Wario and Vicki said, I checked out their website but could not find anything. But one question I have also ...isn't there a thing like once a week judges on AI!? I cannot see this show in Holland, but as we are speculating, it could also be a guest-appearance maybe!?

Anyway, IF and I say If Meat is to be the next Simon ...I say The World Ain't Seen Nothing Yet - bring on Meat Loaf ...as he is as real as it gets and a true stand up comedian aswell (now being from holland - could someone help me with the spelling lol...I mean well!)

... and I truly believe he has a better change of getting what it is He wants, should he be doing this... Artistic Freedom is what an artsist wants, I think...

I see Andy and Dave have answered your question :wink:
I honestly have no idea about when it's on or how that would work about the guest judges Mariella .. I've only watched the show once or twice :-)

Your spelling is just fine :lol: And I absolutely agree with you :))

Yes, I think the reporter was just jumping to conclusions. I bet it's Celebrity Apprentice because Meat says he's creatively smarter than the people who have been on the show. That wouldn't apply to AI.

Me too ! LOL..

Hasn't Meat Loaf chagrined shows like American Idol for manufacturing artists? and the fact that the artists haven't 'paid their dues' :shrug:

If I could manufacture an artist, I would not.

Just to add to the speculation

Another judge quit AI today. So 2 vacancies now.

Yes, I heard Ellen quit !

who quit now

Ellen D :wink:

-gasp- But I <3 Ellen.

Mm, i liked her, thought she was funny and odd in a nice way ! LOL...Will the show continue ? and if it does will i like it ? Dunno guess its a waiting game...

some other story going around about J-LO being a new judge

Saw on the news this morning that Steven Tyler is a possibility now too.

AI usually begins in mid January, with broadcasting try-outs, but it's not in real time. Once they get their finalists, that's when they start broadcasting Live. So I doubt that would work out in Meat's schedule.

i don't think it's gonna happen.....fox news had a pretty good write up and had 10 names you can vote for.....meat wasn't one of them....i voted 'other' and wrote meat's name in

Now it is being reported that Kara has been fired from AI:

http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/29/americ...n-tyler-fired/

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/show...ican-idol.html

Yes, the latest rumor is that Kara is out, Ellen will be replaced by Jennifer Lopez,
and they're going back to the 3 judge format, with Steven Tyler (from Aerosmith)
taking over for Simon / Kara :lol: Now that's an interesting combination :-)

Jennifer Lopez and Steven Tyler would be interesting choices for the show. I think they need something big since they lost Simon and Ellen too. (And Paula in 2009.) I never really found Kara interesting on AI, and I prefer the 3-judge format.

This seems a little too odd, 3 judges gone, can't see it meself..i like Kara, will believe it when its all official.

If I had a shot at the AI seat,I'd cancel the tours . That is a very important seat . Look what it did for Simon Cowel? I think Meat would be perfect for that seat.

They were just talking about it here about Ellen leaving and they said that the guy who left because he didn't get on well with Simon was coming back, don't know his name, and they didn't mention Meat.

Carole

Lets be honest, Simon Cowell WAS American Idol and without him they can shove any celebrity monkeys on the judging panel and it won't be as good.

Meat has the talent, the longevity in the business, he's brave enough to say what he thinks and of course has that unpredictable artsy side too. He's sexy and sharp and AI should get on their knees and beg this amazing guy to take that spot.

he he Imagine getting feedback from Meat on your singing.:D

I would be scared to death! LOL

:lol:

what kinda makes me think I isnt meats thing is the show is about "hitting the right note" and stuff like that.

Meat's philosophy is you dont have to hit every note, just put on the best show you can possibly do.

Dunno if that mindset will work for a AI judge.

PS: Meats Philosophy is correct in every way.

Simon mixed it up and did not always judge things by the same yard stick. Meat would do the same thing. I am pretty sure he'd recognize talent if he saw it. Recall Patty's audition.:D

no i dont. is it on film somewhere? Thatd be interesting :))

The story about her audition is something like she auditioned and thought she had blown it, kicked something( something along these lines) and then ended up being picked.
I'm sure in Meat's stories it must be somewhere. I read it somewhere.

ill start a thread for this, its a bit off the topic aha :))

He wasn't brave enough to say what he thought at the time when Bat3 was being made :nope: I think Meat tries to please others first and holds back on his true feelings until a later date, where Cowell pleases himself first and says what he thinks on the spot regardless of who is in front of him.

I don't want to watch that episode. :nope:

I have seen Meat on TV and know he has some jitters . He he,I saw him on Sean Hannity and he was adorable. He did say what he thought ,politely.
I could never figure out what Sean was doing b/c all he did was end up telling him he'd not let his kids listen to Paradise. :oops: ( for Sean)
He he recall Rosy O'Donnell show,he french kissed her and she said later she had to go to therapy. LOL That would have been my favorite fantasy the rest of my life.

Very well put !

I read a lot of celebrity news just because those are hysterically ridiculous...I've never seen speculations like these...I know for a fact that Nigel Lithgoe is coming back but don't know if he is a judge and a producer or just a producer...rumor here has it it's somewhere between J-Lo and Jessica Simpson...

Also, all those fiings/ quittings came after Nigel announced that all judges will be fired and replaced with 3 new judges and 4 judge panel doesn't work at all...whether he meant it or not...Ellen quit right after he said it - not sure if she had other reasons for quitting...Cara should have been fired after first season in my opinion...

Agreed...

Simon is bringing X Factor here...that's why he left...

Yeah, it's somewhere...apparently she kicked (I think) tour bus, while Meat was watching her departure from the window above...

The timing for Meat as an AI judge doesn't work out according to what we know of his schedule. Prelimary auditions for AI are going on know thru around the end of August. Hollywood week starts sometime after the beginning of January, around Jan 11th. They usually like to have the judges in place by then. Then the show starts airing sometime around the end of January thru May when the winner is announced. According what we know, Meat is supposed to be touring down under in OZ when the show is supposed to be airing. The speculation is fun. I do think he would be a great addition to the show. Time will tell

Yeah I remember Meat saying that too, think it was an interview or something. She thought she blew it, and she kicked the bus and Meat saw it and gave her the job because she kicked the bus.

Carole

I think Meat kept his own counsel at the time because of the very different position he has in the music business. He's a performer, under contract to a recording company, and whilst under contract has certain obligations. Cowell makes his living off performers; some might say he has made his millions and earned his celebrity status by exploiting them. Certainly he has a feel for vox populi, and seizes opportunistically on those who can bring him a quick return, imo supporting long term only those who have sufficient talent/ability to be around for longer. His talent is opportunism and making money out of riding trends in a modern music business which Meat despairs of. (Cowell makes his name by being to the talent show what Anne Robinson is to the quiz in my view.)

I agree Cowell pleases himself first and says what he likes. Imo he will say what he thinks of a performance, but phrases it in the way he thinks will have an impact in terms of the persona he likes to project. Imo Meat would say what he believes but would focus it on affecting the performer and the performance, rather than to project an image he was manufacturing. That would be his strength, but I suspect not necessarily what the producers would be looking for.

I'd be surprised if Meat were attracted to this show, given all he has said about the current trends in the music business, about Cowell, and about the way programmes like this shove newcomers into the studio and the spotlight, controlling rather than developing them .. And I know Cowell is leaving the show, but my impression is that Meat finds the fast-track routing of manufactured popstars anathema, and unless he was leaving performing behind and switching to managing and investing in the long term nurture and development of other performers, this show seems to me unlikely to appeal to him. (Imo he enjoyed Popstar to Operastar because the contestants all had an established track record in the music business, and even then seemed somewhat frustrated that the producers just wanted him to fulfill a certain role they had in mind, whereas he wanted to give useful and focused feedback. His participation in Rock Camp last year was based on coaching rather than judging groups.) The principles of the show, its raison d'etre won't change with the addition of a judge who knows what music is about, has genuine talent, and an intuitive feel for and ingrained understanding of performance skills.

Much as I love seeing Meat on any show, and agree he has the experience, knowledge and skill to bring something valuable to AI, I don't see how he could change the basic ethos of the programme without leaving performing behind and switching to a fulltime "impresario" role in an attempt to change the way the music business operates. It might well improve the business, and the lot of many new performers if he did .. but I prefer to continue enjoying his great talent as a performer, both on stage and in films :)

Caryl

but since he has been complaining about the promotion of his album in the states and the state of music currently he's decided that if you can't beat em, join em?

Think Meat is far too nice to replace a Cowell. Think the nasty Englishman works much better for the format in amongst the "word up, keep it real, you got it going on dog, ya moma would be proud, That was da bomb, I’m sorry dawg, it just didn’t work for me, You could sing the phone book!". Meat was a great laugh on the Opera star show but I feel the whole judging thing is a bit beneath him to be honest. Everyone is a judge these days, even interior designers! Especially the comments from the American judges on these shows are soooo cheesy in my opinion and is pure entertainment and drained from any from of help/third party observation. Don't like Idol at all, though X factor is watchable for me as it's slightly less rushed and hectic.

Imo he'd be more likely to want to change them than join them .. and for the reasons I've given I don't see that simply being a judge would change the music business, not without becoming an impresario himself.

He'd be a wonderful and usefully constructive judge on any show of this kind .. if he were allowed to be, and not expected to play a character the producers wanted. But he'd be part of a fast-track to fame process he has spoken out against so strongly, so it would surprise me.

Xfactor and AI seem to be based on:
The huge "entertainment" of the auditions where people who should never be allowed to set foot on stage are encouraged to make asses of themselves
Allowing people like Cowell to make money through exploiting the contestants who have short-term appeal, and perhaps (at no cost or effort themselves) finding a few with some talent, who are generally treated as a commodity
Giving an opportunity to a few to enjoy a sudden, but not always lasting, fame as a popstar
Giving celebrities (with varying levels of credibilty to pass judgement/offer advice) the opportunity to earn a good fee
Continuing to enrich Cowell's bulging coffers as he conceived the shows

None of these seem to me to have a fit with Meat

Caryl

and while i would agree with all of that, it's still 'the' programme to be on for artists to showcase their work or simply to remind people that they are still around.

Personally i think after making HCTB, meat doesn't need to top it in the form of anything else music related and could very easily establish himself again in films or a tv series. Lots of so called film 'stars' have come back to television and made bigger names for themselves, Kiefer Sutherland, springs to mind.

but either way I hope meat does it because he wants to and not because he feels he has to.

Now that I recall,I saw a clip of Meat on a British or Aussie show that compares to " so you think you can dance" . it was funny watching him and the others give feedback on the dancing. wish I could find that clip but it was one of those things you get when you surf youtube for Meat things and just happen to see it.

Exactly.

Any word yet on who the new judges are?

Nothing definite ... but the latest rumor I heard were Steven Tyler and Jennifer Lopez.
Then Jennifer Lopez was too demanding, so they're trying to find someone else in her place.

Ha ha, what a surprise!!!!!

Carole