Meat Loaf Live In Toronto 1993
 

I could've chosen links to any of half a dozen tracks from this concert because there all ~~~~ing amazing, but here's AFL ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OV4CF...eature=related

... not the greatest of (audience) recordings but Meat is in incredible form.

Why, oh why, oh why, oh why, is there no official DVD release of a concert from this era ?

A pro shot version of this would kick the arse of MSO.

Thanks to Wario for posting.

I couldn't agree more. Despite the MSO concert being akin to riding a bombastic tidal wave along a rollercoaster of wonder and awe and a breathtaking piece of cinematography from beginning to end, a Bat 2 tour DVD would :shit: on it from a great height. :twisted:

As far as I'm aware, one of the Hudson Theater shows (with Jim) was filmed, but footage has so far not surfaced. The Netherlands show as featured on the Classic Albums DVD was filmed, but the set list was trimmed slightly. Then there is the History Of Meat Loaf Live show which is the likely candidate for DVD release, but featured even less songs and Meat ballsed up the second verse of Anything For Love. But did do Roll Over Beethoven as an encore.

and the Prince's Trust was filmed as well.

dunno, wish there was

and.. yes!!

I'd forgotten that. So that's four potential concerts. :shock:

There's probably more than that I'm guessing if the ponies haven't eaten the tapes.

Quite possibly. Only a fool wouldn't stock up on footage of their huge, career reviving comeback tour.

Steady ... :twisted:

As good as MSO is, IMO Meat sang better in the late 80s / early 90s so personally I'd prefer this / Hudson / Netherlands for my orgasmic roller coaster ride of joy.

Plus just after Bat 2 you had only Bat1 / Bat2 songs in the set so no inferior albums to promote with :shit: songs in there. Heaven ...

trust me. you WONT prefer Netherlands 1994 to MSO. Just sayin'.

I agree. It's certainly not Meat at his best. Hudson Theater would get the vote from me. If I had any sway over such things, which I don't. :cool:

Was it?

The whole concert from the Albert Hall in November 1994 or just Life Is A Lemon from Sheffield that month?

Wasted Youth is awesome. Jim Steinman should have been on stage more often. Meat appears so cool and full of energy - the incarnation of Rock & Roll. I especially like his screams during Lemon, although I've never liked that song much. It's strange that no live footage from that time has ever officially been released (aside from three songs on the Bat II Picture Show VHS), considering how popular Meat was at that time.

Being as in 1994 Lemon was towards the begining of the set and the intro "thank you" was taken from Heaven Can Wait which was towards the end, Id say yes, the majority at least was filmed.

An even bigger question would be if there may not come a time to do with Meat what was done with Bruce Springsteen and the Darkness sessions. I'm sure your right that there is film that is sitting around waiting to be put together, but I would have to wonder if there are any songs that were going to go on the album but got cut.
In an interview Meat said that Jim wrote AFL and a year later wrote Objects. I wonder if there were maybe a few songs that never made it. A DATE WITH DESTINY comes to mind.
A BAT 2 retrospective would be amazing.

If all you've seen filmed is Lemon and the thank yous then it was as I thought and that wasn't from the Meat Loaf Prince's Trust Concert.

On 17th November 1994 Meat Loaf performed a whole concert at the Royal Albert Hall where all proceeds went to the Prince's Trust (in fact the tickets said it was the Prince's Trust Concert). Prince Charles attended and sat in the Royal Box but I don't think he stayed for the whole concert. (He was introduced to Meat Loaf and the band before the concert.)

That was the first concert of the tour and later they played Sheffield on 22nd, 29th and 30th November and at one of those 3 concerts (I can't remember offhad which) they filmed Life Is A Lemon specifically with the thank you in it which Meat Loaf said that evening was for The Prince's Trust concert which was screened on TV as part of a big Prince's Trust concert programme.

Does anyone remember a program from the 94ish era, something to do with Virgin or EMI in which they showed various artists on the label performing live, including Meat doing 'Objects'? I'm sure it was released on VHS too.

Were the cameras recording for the whole show or did they specifically come out for that one song? It seems strange to do such a 'negative' song for a charity event, when something uplifting like Rock And Roll Dreams would be better suited.

I'm pretty sure they only filmed the one song.

May be you could do a montage type thing so we could all decide for ourselves which one of three / four Bat 2 concerts should be released as a DVD. Just a thought...

keep a look out for a thread. thats a brilliant idea.

Well, I try ... :wink:

I look forward to it.

Shame on Prince Charles, that seems rude. Did he not find it good enough to sit through 2 hours or so.

ah this montage is more complex then I thought. i cant deal with it right now when I have 430 videos to make back.

PM sent to you paul

Wario, thanks for PM. I think you have a point.

Still think this could at least be a poll with some examples from said concerts ?

no point, regardless of examples everyone (including me) will pick the one where Jim was involved: Hudson Theater 1993.

Unless Im mistaken :shrug:

It's not a montage but here you go:

Rock And Roll Dreams from The History Of Meat Loaf Live:

YouTube Video

This is the best quality version I can find on Youtube. Why on earth would the Red Ponies take those down and leave the shitty ones up? :roll:

Heaven Can Wait from The Netherlands:

YouTube Video

Just pop the Live Around The World CD in and there's a good chance you'll hear something from the Hudson Theater show! :cool:

Because its the best, or because Jim's involved ? (Or both ?)

I think some people here are ambivalent towards Jim (but not me), so maybe its not so clear cut... :shrug:

I had a really good quality rrd from History of ML Live up and a couple hudson stuff. Thats something I can upload real quick.

Paul im uploading objects from Hudson Theater and tell me.

Because it's the best in my opinion. The History Of Meat Loaf Live show is great, but Meat sounds even better during the Hudson Theater show, plus there were more songs performed and Meat didn't screw up the second verse of Anything For Love. As I said earlier the History show is the one most likely to get released though, which I wouldn't be opposed to. :twisted:

Oh I see - RRD on Live Around The World IS actually from the Hudson Theatre. Here was I believing that Live Around The World was ACTUALLY recorded in different locations around the world as it were. So it doesn't do what it says on the tin - how could I be taken in all these years ! :roll:

paul youre most likely correct.

BTW, this is what makes a poll void:

YouTube Video

I said good chance, not 100% chance! RARD is from the tour rehearsals somewhere in NYC, July 1993.

You Took The Words
Two Out Of Three
Heaven Can Wait
Objects In The Rear View Mirror
Paradise
Wasted Youth

are all definitely from the Hudson Theater. A couple of the other songs might be, but that is only guesswork.

Ok, I recognise Wario's uploaded Objects from LATW, also before Heaven Can Wait on LATW Meat introduces '... Mr Jim Steinman ... we'd like to do Heaven Can Wait' and Wasted Youth is definitely done by Jim, and the last time Meat and Jim performed together live was at Hudson - so I think I'm following your logic!

You do wonder why they bothered with the 'Live Around The World' malarkey when its mostly Hudson.

BTW this version of Objects is (of course) out of this world.

Do Love Toronto, but...
 

I am deeply sorry that there seems to be no footage of the Dec 2, 1994 concert at Wembley. Lucky enough to be there and it was Awesome! Also, a recording of a Flushing Meadow performance exists (Buslowe, Goffs, Bobby era), but mine was stolen by a stinking thief! I have no idea why no commercial videos--ah, DVDs were made of Bat II show. Too bad!!:(

Im sorry :(
anything from 1988 is a mighty loss
It may appear soon. you never know

You utter swine. I was awarded a mighty infaction notice for using the above phrase, undirected and innocent as it was, the other day. Okay, you can scratch innocent.

As for the video - there's a nice clear version of AFL from the Picture Show stuff on youtube somewhere. Gets my vote every time. Time for a re-release!

Doode. :cool:

You get infraction points for poetic, elevated posts, too? :lmao:

Having managed to get my hands on a copy of Hudson, if the RARD from Hudson is not on LATW then its very, very similar ... also I think AFL is definitely from Hudson with just added crowd noise at the beginning, and Frying Pan :cool:.

This is an arguement I've had many times with WarioLoaf :bleh:. The Anything For Love on LATW and the one from the Hudson Theater bootleg (that also featured on the Bat 2 special edition and a couple of B-sides) is not the same song. Listen carefully and you will spot differences. It is entirely possible that it does come from the Hudson Theater though, as Meat played there for a couple of nights in a row.

Rock And Roll Dreams is the same performance as was featured on one of the Bat 2 singles as a B-side, but mixed differently/better. For some reason they cut out the ooo-ooo's from the intro, but added in extra drums for the ending. All the Bat 2 b-sides have their performance date listed as July 1993 which would place them at the Bat 2 tour rehearsals, as would the crowd of about 3 people! The Hudson Theater shows were in September 1993, so I guess they would sound similar.

I don't understand why they chose to reuse that particular Rock And Roll Dreams, as I think it's the weakest song on the album. :shrug:

So now I'm going to have to syncronise both and listen to them simultaneously ! It would make sense if it were Hudson, but a different night, given the apparent similarities.

I'll save you time! Go to the second verse and Meat's 'ANY THING FOR LO-OVE' bit. They're not the same. :wtf: