Meat Loaf to appear on German TV in December
 

Apparently Meat will play All Of Me which is supposed to be the first single on Wetten, dass...? on December 3. Just accidentally stumbled upon this, trying to get further info.

Itll probably be mimed. arent most performances on that show mimed?

I haven't watched it in ages but as far as I know it's usually live vocals to pre-recorded music. Not sure about Meat Loaf's previous performances on that show, they sounded pretty much like the album versions to me, but here's a nice appearance by Alicia Keys which sounds live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQW4QLjr4As

For those who speak German, there is some info regarding the appearance on the bottom of this page: http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/deta...t/hnum/1604022

Translation: "Meat Loaf, who has an especially loyal audience in Germany, will perform the first single All Of Me on December 3, on the last Wetten Dass show of 2011."

I hope there will be more info in the next couple of days, I could not find out that much about the guests of the show so far.

Way to go Meat!! I'm so stoked that your appearing on tv to perform the single! Here's hoping there's more promo performances coming up!!

:up:

I thought he was home. why go all the way over to germany for a small performance on a tv show?

This is most awesome news!
:cheer::cheer:

Wow, that's great. Hopefully it will be put on youtube so the rest of us can see it too.

Carole

Yay! :cheer:

It's not a small performance. Wetten Dass creates big sales.

Maybe things have changed and the European promo is starting prior to Christmas now? Wetten Dass is a HUGE show in Germany, and the opportunity to get some promo on a stage such as that is one not to be missed.

Since it's Thomas Gottschalk's (he's been hosting the show since 1987) last show of Wetten, dass…?, it will be really huge!

Wetten, das is not. À small tv program, it is HUGE in germany and even in Holland. Millions and Millions of people Will be watching that show so it Will be à great way for Meat to get something going in Europe:D

I am as thrilled as everyone else that Meat is appearing on Wetten Dass.
Are we thrilled with the song choice though? (as it is only 4th in our poll)

I think All Of Me is a good choice for a show like Wetten, dass…?, it's pretty catchy.

According to the link to the online shop I posted, the CD will apparently be released the day before. Judging by the price it does not seem to be an import, so maybe this is indeed the release date for Germany. As 2jaxx, AndyK and unbekannt have said Wetten, dass..? is a huge show in Germany, in fact it is the biggest Saturday night entertainment show. It is also broadcasted in Austria and Switzerland. It has its 30th anniversary this year and the show in December will be the last one with Thomas Gottschalk. Many people will watch it and it will get a lot of media coverage. Yes, it's certainly worth to come over for this "small performance". If he really performs on that show, it will be one of the best opportunities to plug his album in Europe.

Definately! and bearing in mind most of the US doesnt really seem to stick by him when he is releasing a non bat album. U.K, Ireland, Germany and many other European countries go along for the ride as they know its one they enjoy no matter what the theme. Not to say American audiences arent there but i just think they're very much a Bat audience. The smaller shows and Bat dominated sets reflect this.

Yes, probably. They also sell the Australian import: http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/deta...t/hnum/4563027

Edit: And now it's on German Amazon for pre-order:
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00637EY6U/...DX1TWTGJGGB5D&

Excellent :))

Ummmm.... The last time I checked, this show was huge. I remember the comment being made that like Two Out Of Three people who can do turn into this show - it is almost a nation wide event.

wetten dass - what is the equivalent type of show over here?

don't worry just checked it out. You Bet!

Yes, they are.

He already performed Anything, Not A Dry Eye (Meat made a big mistake in the mimed performance) and DIST (where Meat kissed the showmaster Thomas) at that show.

It´s a Saturday evening family show.

So Patti won't be there? :(

She's supposed to be performing with the SAS Band on Dec. 3.

I remember that. Not really his mistake, but the cd skipped a couple times during the Not a Dry Eye performance.

Aw, I wish Patti could be there too.
Is the Wetten Das show live or pre-taped?

I was wondering THE Same! Will Patti be on Wetten Das?

Wetten, dass..? is a live show .

The German chancellor Angela Merkel has cancelled. (no joke)
Lenny Kravitz and Karl Lagerfeld will be there.

Maybe Meat will film a video for All of Me with Patti and the band and on Wetten Das, he'll do an interview and play the music video of the song.
It would be really expensive to fly the band out to Germany for one tv show that is mimed.

Great news for Meat, I wonder if it is still set for a Feb release in UK? I mean it wouldn’t be too much hassel to jump on a plane and do a bit of UK promotion in December, great time for promotion platforms on UK TV at the moment with Graham Norten, Alan Carr, Strictly all being on the TV at the moment. Even if they just release an actual single and do a bit of cheeky promotion in the UK before the Feb release it would all help.

If i was in charge of promotion (which sadly i am not) i think the key thing is too really push a Single. It is true to say Meat is more an album seller but the general audience only really recognise Meat with the big singles (maybe with the exception of Bat 1 album) because the singles are played on radio and the videos are played on the TV repeatedly. The truth is a general audience might not actually know Meat has done anything in years because we haven’t really had a proper single release since 2006 and that was a bad choice of song in the first place. For example I know about 5 Lady GaGa songs, they are all singles but i couldn’t name a single album only song. Radio still has power and so do music videos with the popularity of Youtube. Meat might be able to release an Album but without a strong single that a general audience can hear he will not become relevant. He is indeed a legend but the audience should understand he is a legendary performer with new music and not just a bloke holding on to his success from the 70s and early 90s.

I would get Meat single promoting in the UK in early December with the intention of Album release in February. I would have a second single release in February a week before the album release, possible Our love and our Soles as a love ballad would go perfectly with the Valentine’s day period. The live album should be a bonus CD with the album and the Live DVD should be released on the same day. Of course i know promotion is not that easy at ALL. I also realise i have gone WAY off topic, i apologise.

That would be a logical idea. Since the Wetten Das performances are mimed, it doesn't make much sense to fly the band over. And it would be sad if Patti was missing in the band.

That's a brilliant idea.

This is exciting news, so Germany will be the next place the album gets released. I wonder why they have decided to do that earlier than the rest of europe, he's not going to tour there is he? So All Of Me will be the lead single everywhere by the looks of it, that's fine by me.

it would be great if he starts at least the single promotion early everywhere. its what needs to be done imo, really build it up!!! get on a few of them shows and he will chart very well.

I believe All Of Me is a very 'safe' choice. Too safe.
Remember it is still only 4th in our poll with just one in ten of us recommending it as the worldwide single.
I fear it is not going to have the impact we all hope for.
But, I will be delighted to be proven wrong.

That sounds about right. I still think though that there might possibly be some steinman songs on the album. Not sure how they would fit in with the sound but it would be a huge selling feature.
ALL OF ME is a great first single. I agree too that OUR LOVE AND OUR SOULS would be the next best single. But I have very little faith in whoever picks the singles for Meat as they tend to be some bad choices.

It's 4th in our poll because we're influenced by what we think the best song is, not necessarily what the song is with the most widespread appeal. I think All Of Me is the song that will have the most widespread appeal so I think it's the best choice for the single. It's radio friendly, catchy, has that classic Meat sound, and tells people what the album is about.

As long as there are follow up singles with the same promotion then fine.
But, I am worried it will all fizzle out.
I like All Of Me but is NOT the best song on the album.
Anything For Love hardly fits into your radio-friendly category but it succeeded because it is a fantastic song.
I don't want a steady forward defensive block. Let's slog it over the long off boundary with the big hitters off HIAH.

Yes I agree with you, it is NOT the best song on the album, but it is the song that will have the widest appeal. Just like Anything For Love is in my opinion not the best song on Bat 2, but had the widest appeal which is why it was the single.

OK. Time will tell. Hope I am horribly wrong.

But would it have the same appeal to radio now? The business has moved on a lot in the last 18 years. It was an amazing song and a triumph, and once it was being played it caught on and spread across the airwaves, but back then where were still radio presenters who'd buck the system of playlists proscribed by the suits ..

I love All Of Me, and I could see it having a broad appeal, the music sticking in people's minds, and the "chorus" lyrics catching on, and not just to Meat Loaf fans. And a poll consisting of 65 votes from Meat Loaf fans on one fan site (64 if you take away the one for "a mystery song") isn't exactly a robust set of statistics imo as a basis of deciding a single release to the widest market, particularly give the framing of it .. eg (again) after two of the titles. I'd hope Sony have a more sound approach to testing the potential market.

I don't hope anybody is horribly wrong .. just that Sony are informed and right in all they do ;)

Caryl

:yep:

While all of me is a good song, Im baffled why Sony chose that over The Giving Tree or Live or Die, which I bet even you can say would have been better choices. I hope they do know what they are doing.

No, I can't, and thought I explained quite clearly why I thought All Of me was a good choice.

Caryl

Wario did you even read the rest of the thread? We've said that All Of Me is the song which will have the widest appeal, even though GT or LOD may be better songs in many fans eyes. Because it's not just hardcore fans it has to appeal to. Caryl explained it very well.

I know you did, but I think you're secretly like "wtf? all of me? are you serious?! Come on!"

or at least i like to think you are :lol::lol:

I'm thinking Our Love and Our Souls would make a good worldwide single. It's so relevant to the issues people are currently facing (losing their jobs and homes being foreclosed). The song is beautiful and has a really powerful message, and I think it would get a lot of airplay.

Lol you windup you

Id like to think that really you can spell .. but life is full of disappointments for all of us. Sorry, you can't beat your view into me no matter how hard you try.

I love All Of Me, I think it is catchy both in terms of the music and the chorus, I could see it having universal appeal .. And I leave Meat and his record label to make choices and decisions which are not mine to make. I simply support him, rather than run around calling "Woe! Woe!" and forecasting failure. But that's another issue, and another choice and decision which IS mine to make.

Caryl

A very select group of voters though!!

Of course I hope All Of Me is successful. That goes without saying.
However, my gut instinct is that it is the wrong choice.
Maybe the poll sample is too small to be representative, but I am picking up on a trend that suggests other tracks should have been chosen.
If Sony follow up All Of Me with at least two of the three songs which are above it in our tiny survey then I will be happy.
I will gladly eat humble pie next year if I have to confess to you that "You're Right, I Was Wrong".
My support for Meat will never fade.

Indeed .. and that's my point really. Select and not necessarily predictive of the mass market. I have no idea which would be better, and unless they release them both we won't ever know ;) But I like to think that those making the decision have done some market research and have based theirs on that. I'm not judging them by other labels over the past few years. I'm happy they're committed to releasing physical discs, which has pleased Meat too, and assume they want it to sell just as much as we do .. it's how they make their money ;)

Caryl

It's rarely the best song that gets picked as a single. Take any famous singer/band and compare the singles to the other songs on their albums. In many cases you will find songs that are way more interesting than the singles/hits. As others have pointed out, they often opt for a song they think that will appeal to the general public the most. All Of Me is not the worst choice, considering that Cry Over Me was released as a single while plans of boosting a better song were ditched. At least they seem to have a clear strategy this time. I'd rather see a proper single, even if it's not my favorite song, than something like the HCTB "singles" mess again.

So why do you hardly find songs that are "relevant to the issues people are currently facing" on the charts or hear them on the radio these days?

That thought occurred to me also .. I suspect that those which have greatest relevance to people dealing with unemployment and homelessness may not have the wherewithall to buy singles, which may seem a forgoable luxury when your pockets are empty.

Feel good or anger seems to drive the playlists these days it seems to me ..

Caryl

I really like All of Me; I think it's a great track with a relevant theme and a contemporary sound (love the piano outro).

That said, my 21 year old girlfriend, who usually listens to more contemporary artists like Damien Rice, Newton Faulkner, Kanye West, Bloc Party, etc., prefers Another Day and constantly says it's one of the best tracks on the album. I can hear her humming it in the shower right now actually!

Caryl is right; speaking from strictly a statistical standpoint, a sample such as was obtained here would probably be thrown out. I think you can compare it to a setlist which is chosen by diehard fans- it wouldn't necessarily appeal to the majority of the audience.

Record companies are in the business of selling records (CD's, downloads, whatever)- period. They employ people whose job it is to pick the tracks that are going to sell the most, not necessarily those that are considered "best".

Which still boggles my mind when I think of such 'best sellers' as Man Of Steel and Cry Over Me. :roll:

Well, I never said it was an exact science! :lol:

I would certainly like to know how they conduct their market research. Perhaps a show of hands in the boardroom!!

Ps. just to reiterate, I do like the song, BUT, I would prefer something else!!

I thought that old show was canned after that guy breaking his neck failing to jump over that car. Bizarre how some shows run forever in only certain countries. A bit like Big Brother over here whereas that died a silly death very quickly over the rest of Europe.

No, it wasn´t. After the accident (he is in a wheelchair), the host (in germany we say showmaster) Thomas wanted to quit. He made a couple of more shows and this will be the last (with him) and as said before many people will watch it. Then will be a break. They are looking for a new presenter, (but nobody wants to do it.)

I dont think it was a mimed performance. The problem with Tv shows is they get the artist to sing the song live and then dub over the vocals with the album/single version. So I dont think it was Meat's fault I think it was the TV show's producer's fault.

As far as I know by now only two singers performed live on Wetten Dass..?

One is a german singer called Sarah Connor the other name just escaped me.
The last show in Nurnberg has been watched by over 8 million people. Wetten Dass..? is the biggest TV show and celebrities come there without being paid. They all love Thomas Gottschalk. :-)

Wetten, dass...Meat Loaf MEDLEY
 

http://www.cms-medienmagazin.de/2011...iedrichshafen/

http://www.net-tribune.de/nt/node/78...ss-stehen-fest

It says:

...Rockfan Thomas Gottschalk..and his personal taste... and...


Meat is going to perform a medley of his biggest hits.


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Because it all went so well last time. :shock:

why not a track from the most recent release. Cant hurt

Meat will be performing a medley of AFL, Took The Words and All Of Me.

Source: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/beitr...en?bildIndex=1
(pic 4 of 8 )

I hate to say it but... My thoughts exactly...

:yawn: Is that nostalgia stuff really necessary? Why not play a whole HIAH song?

indeed

RIGHT ON MEAT FOR TACKLING ANOTHER LIVE TV PERFORMANCE!

YOU GO MAN! :D :D

I think gathering from other comments this will be prerecorded, so i don't see how it can go wrong.

I'm looking forward to this.

If it is live I don't think it will go wrong like last time. The medley doesn't seem as demanding, it's inside, he'll probably be allowed a soundcheck and I don't think the audience will be a load of football fans already cheesed off that it's not a home act performing.

Though I would love to hear a HIAH song instead of a medley but I think this will still be top notch.

Yeah, I love that Meat's doing this, but I think I'd rather just hear All of Me, since it's promotion for a new album.

why not SITS sans lil jon with randy doing the John rich verse (since pattis doing a show that day) and all of me? why the medley?

Is she? Who's gonna sing her Anything For Love part then? Can't imagine it without the female part.

I have read many negative comments about the guests, although the show hasn't even taken place yet. Does that mean we're going to see a weak performance? :shock: ;) Sorry, I'm tired of reading excuses and explanations as to why a particular performance was not good / will be good / whatever...

Me neither.

Jimmy Fallon, obviously. :lol:

I wish people didn't whine so much. Be glad he's doing the performance and is well enough to travel and perform.

Justin, you'll never notice the difference :D

Haha, I was thinking exactly the same. I just watched Boneyard and you can't deny the similarities! The voices, the hats, the long dark hair, … :lol:
I've never seen Justin's legs, that could be a major problem…

Thats just what the show asks artists like Meat to do recently.

Wetten Dass seems to have changed the schedule for the German release of HIAHB. It might have changed Pattis schedule too...

This very last Wetten Dass show with host Thomas Gottschalk is a perfect fit: Meat gets to present his new single (at least parts of) and Wetten Dass gets to revisit its own history, their famous "kiss".

You're obviously right. :? I did a video search and found more medleys than I expected. (Haven't watched the show for a long time so that unfortunate development has escaped me so far.) Good Lord, even Justin Bieber did one. :shock: Hopefully Lenny will perform an entire song.

Hi guys....
My only problem with this is:
How the hell can I get down there to see Meat perform......

Planeticket: No problem!
Get into the show: Big problem!
See Meat: HUGE problem!

So close..but still soo far away.....


Sad viking-girl.....:oops:

Where? I can't find it.

scratch that, after looking at it again, it was from the Tonight Show appearance back when, my bad.

I don't see Patti's name listed with the performers for the SAS Band show anymore. Maybe she's now performing with Meat in Germany.
I don't want to see Anything For Love without Patti. She's also great in You Took the Words. YTTW sounded really great at the AFL Finals in Australia.

But if it IS to be a medley he might just sing part of the song anyway. There's two verses before it becomes a duet. Or we could wait and see ..

Caryl

wonder how long he's got?

I checked out a couple of medleys that have been performed on Wetten, dass..? in recent years. They were about four minutes long.

But it doesn't work as a solo song…

I agree. The duet part is the hook of the song and Meat & Patti perform it so brilliantly.

I don't .. I'll find out soon enough ;)


I didn't suggest it would be people's preference. I just said it would be perfectly possible to sing part of the song in a medley without involving the duet.

And if as Sarge says the medley is normally 4 minutes long, to include AFL and have anything else in at all, the song would have to be severely shortened.

Caryl

NO way! :lol:

I think YTTW, AFL, and AOM will make a great medley. I look forward to seeing it.

I couldn't agree more, come on the rest of you, what's with the negativity? Meat has never let us down and I'm sure this will be great and I for one, can't wait!!!!!!!! :D

here's Bonnie doing a medley of 3 songs i'd never have expected to hear together for a tv show..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EtwfcSHR2I

Absolutely. YTTW was awesome at the AFL Finals. Most of Anything for Love was awesome too, except Meat couldn't hear the music. But this time he will and it will be amazing. It's a great idea to perform 2 big hits and the new song. I can't wait to hear it.

Couldn't have said it better! Great chance to promote the album, great choice of songs. I can't wait till the 3rd!