Remove "Dislike Button"?
 

I love the like button, its killed the ever diluted and repetitive "CHSIB" comments. The dislike button however is really annoying.

If someone dislikes something its best we hear why. The dislike button makes most users feel a tad disrespected when it coems to their post. It seems some, like me, get disliked no matter what we say.

PRIME EXAMPLE IS THIS THREAD:
http://www.mlukfc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18124

someone disliked every single post in that thread. for what reason? Cause I started the thread? for crimes sake.

I want the dislike button gone. Keep the like button, but the dislike button causes trouble. thats my view, it wont make me cease posting or leave but its an annoyance.

Gosh, it is a hard one to an extent Wario. In a way, and I voted against its removal, it is good for someone like myself that is in a hurry to check threads etc, and comes across something that I don't like, and either I can't respond to it, or I don't have time to respond to it. But I do see your point, and many others too. It can be overused. I tend to think that ok, such and such doesn't like a lot of my comments. WHY? Is it that they hate my views altogether? Etc etc... Lol, maybe you should add undecided to the poll, for those like me who can't decide either way :lol: Good thread though ;) :)

It's being misused for childish trolling IMO. Get rid of it!!!

There is no way you can define the intent of the "dislike" button.

Sure you can. ;)

Wario said it in his post.

May be use of the 'dislike' button should suspended, temporarily or otherwise, for those who can't use it with discretion ?

Certainly disliking every post in a thread without even posting a response as to why, would be grounds for a lengthy suspension of a user's 'dislike' button in my opinion !

Otherwise, I quite like it, and personally I'm more interested who likes / dislikes my posts rather than offended.

The purpose of both the LIKE and DISLIKE was to make it simple to express an opinion without having to write a reply. Words get twisted, manipulated, misquoted, misunderstood and the intent of what the person was trying to say loses its meaning.

At whose discretion? Just a question to think about, not one to be answered

The Mods of course...

I guess I'm a little more hardcore when it comes to rules. I see a clear patten but some disagree and that's OK. :-)

I also think if someone has the time to hit the dislike buttom many times over then they have time to write a simply reply.

Lyn, I responded to your post in the other thread before I saw this one. I believe that some people are capable of using the "Dislike" button in the way you describe, which is what I think it's intended purpose was. However, not only do I think it can be overused, I think it is being overused. If you look at which posts are being liked/disliked and by whom, I think you will easily see a pattern. As I said in my other post, this board has an ignore feature- perhaps some people might want to use it.

I have no issue with people "disliking" posts but it's really annoying when you see someone making excessive use of the "dislike" button for no apparent reason. You read entertaining or informative posts just to find "dislikes" by the same person on the bottom again and again. It's not only controversial posts that are awarded with them.

Yay, I got another one! Wario, you wanna keep score? :lol:

Oh now I see. It's game playing. How silly.


Carry on.

No, really, it's not a game, it's just gotten so ridiculous at this point, that all I can do is laugh. :lol:

Closed until further notice.

:twisted: The purpose of the dislike (as well as the like) button is make your feelings known without replying to the post.

The advantage to this (in theory) is that by not replying with a post, the (none)poster is not esculating the argument further with their conflicting views.

Another benefit is that in the past we've had many many complaints in the past that members felt they have had their opinions "shouted down" on the forum.
It is better (in theory) that rather than a 500 word essay on "just how wrong you are", someone who disagrees has the option of simply showing their disagreement with a simple dislike.

It is quicker, cleaner, less inflamatory, and easier on the eye.
It also leaves more drinking time.

The like button can be used to agree when you have nothing better to add than "CHSIB", "I agree", or "thanks".
Most people, I believe, welcome that function.


The dislike button can be perceived as being used as a weapon to gang up on, to pick sides, or to bully, but so can the like button.

There is, I feel, something to be said about possible over use of the function, that to dislike too much without posting anything explaining at least some of your views is defeating the object a little.
The dislike is a tool, it's not the machine :wink:

That said, BostonAngel has come under a lot of personal comment in this thread, and it's not on.

A thread about a forum function is one thing (although I think a PM from Wario to R about how he feels might have been better in this instance) but a thread that seems dedicated to one persons use of the function is another thing entirley. And that's what this is turning into.


I would like to correct this (now deleted comment) for the record for those who read it...............


Nobody has been infracted over this, and no infraction has been requested.


I'm inclined to reopen the thread for the time being to see if anyone has anything on topic to say about the like/dislike functions.

The functions only, that is, not the use of those functions by any one individual.

Leave the personal stuff at the door and carry on.
If it goes back to the arguing and finger pointing, it's history.

:twisted: Thread cleaned, scrubbed in vinegar, scoured, soaped and rinsed of all the personal comments.

I am in favor of both the "Like" and the "Dislike" button here. I also think that Facebook should have a "Dislike" button as well. At first, the dislike feature was anonymous, but the masses here requested it be opened. Thus, you can now see who specifically likes and dislikes what you post here. Perhaps forethought as to getting what you asked for should be put into place?

Perhaps one could compare this to spamming. Yes you CAN send someone an email every minute but SHOULD you?! The problem some have had here is with the over use of the dislike button, this is the whole point to Wario's original post. I think you can easily expect a backlash to that just as spammers can expect systems to filter spam emails from inboxes.

I think on this occasion the mod(s) has/have this VERY wrong.

id love to know how the like button could be used as a gang up weapon lol :lol:

"omg you liked every thing I posted for no reason, you must be stopped!" :))

I considered a PM, but i felt this is a discussion that could make for some good debate :shrug:

:twisted: Someone posts something agaist somebody else, a pile of people "like" the post in a show of support and agreement against who the poster was replying too.
Lines drawn, sides picked :shrug:

I stand corrected :yep:

Exactly. One of the reasons why we have this thread is the fact that the "dislike" button isn't always simply used as an alternative to a comment. It is very often (ab)used to label posts the person who "disliked" them presumably would not have responded to in the first place. It just appears to be a convienent way to interfere with discussions you're not even interested in and/or devaluate even non-controversial posts forum members have put time and effort in. The "dislike" option should be used in the actual context of a discussion and with regard to the content of posts, not as a tool to show disrespect to other forum members. It's not about the use of the "dislike" option, it's about the disruptive use of it.

I stand incorrected. :nope:

Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!:D

:twisted: It's true that it is easier to quickly dislike a post, so some people who would not take the time to post otherwise use it as a means to disagree.

But it's also an option that sometimes prevents a long disagreeing post that causes argument.

Pros and cons. :shrug:


There's the key word.
As you don't know why the (none)poster has disliked a post (which, if i'm correct, is the issue some people have with it) any speculation to why the poster disliked the post is made by the reader.

We all know the purpose and how the function of it should work. Unfortunately the function can me manipulated and used in a negitive way. That's what the topic is about,

I was making a little joke. You're right, it's a problem. I didn't realize there was a history behind a few. :-)

When someone "dislikes" an entire thread, there's not much to speculate about, in my opinion.

:twisted: As I have no idea why someone would do that, speculation is all I have, but I won't assume i'm right :shrug:

But we seem to be going back to the same example over and over again.

Are there any broader opinions about the like and dislike buttons that don't involve Billy Joel?

There had been already but they were removed by a mod and now we're asked to explain the whole thing in detail again. :roll: I have the feeling you just don't want to understand what the problem is. I give up.

:twisted: The deleted posts were all on the same subject. The one we keep coming back to.

Now is there anything new or should this thread go night night, because we can't seem to stay on the topic.

I disagree with having a "poll" on this. I would retain both functions were I the site owner .. which I'm not. Like Dave I am in favour of both and that they are not anonymous. I use them to indicate agreement or disagreement when I have nothing to add, or my view has been already made clear or is most probably known. I see no point in posting "I agree" if I have nothing to add, nor repeating my reasons for disagreeing. As I said on the other thread, I use them like I would nod or shake my head in a busy debate.

And why should a perfectly legitimate option be taken away because some people may not use it sensibly, appropriately, but in an indiscriminate way or to score points/play games ... according to others?

We might as well say people may not post either if they can't be trusted to do so with civility and respect, and without losing their tempers or sniping at each other, or posting comments to flame a response ..

Oh wait .. we have a means of dealing with that :O We have use of the report button and the moderators deal with it. Seems to me that if overuse or style of use of the like/dislike buttons offends anyone, it is the moderators who should be approached, privately

Caryl

Good points. I've never reported a post before. Can it be clarified that the problem is not with the actual post but the overuse of the dilike? IMO there's a bit of pink elephant syndrome going on here.

Thanks ;) As far as I can make out this poll thread seems to have been started because there are some who seem to be annoyed or discomfited about what they consider to be over-use or indiscriminate use of the dislike "button".

I do not think I do this, nor attempt to play games (another point raised by those against it). If I was at all concerned about anyone's use of it (and to be honest I'm not) I think we have a perfectly viable option of getting specific issues addressed, which is why I introduced posts as an example.

I think it's always a mistake to throw the baby out with the bath water. If you believe there's a problem in the way someone rides a bike, have that issue addressed, don't ban the bicycle as a mode of transport :lol:

Caryl

Oh no, they were on topic! :shock:

I'm confused. Shall we stay on topic or start a new one?

Several people address a problem, bother to point out in detail as to why they think it is one and all you get is a crippled thread and replies like the one quoted above. Nice.

:twisted: No, I guess we can't.

I tried to reopen the thread to give people a chance to speak their minds on the subject as a whole rather than one example, and we just keep going back to the same ground and commenting why the posts were deleted (although i've already answered why they were deleted).


This thread is through.