First Guilty Pleasure DVD review Published
 

Wow.... this is early.

http://getreadytorock.me.uk/blog/201...pleasure-tour/

Wow is right! :-/ Odd. And I can't quite make up my mind on how I feel about what I read either. Then again it IS almost 3:45 AM so that could be the reason for it. LOL

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It's a fairly good review.

The reviewer says that Meat struggles to hit some of the high notes I was just wondering, has he seen the clip of Bat Out Of Hell? You're telling me he didn't hit the high notes at the end?

Well in all fairness he sounds far from perfect in the clips I've heard, including Bat. So I think it's a fair statement for the reviewer to make

You won't like it !! (the DVD) You will make it the frog in Biology class.

I will like it (LOVE it actually) and still make it the frog in bio class cause thats what I love to do :)

Yes ... unfortunately you can't please everybody no matter how hard you try :(
But I know I'm truly looking forward to it, and thank you for all the hard work and
dedication you've put into it !

Best post in awhile...leave it to Meat Loaf to find the truth in everything. ;)

chsib :-)
I'll love the dvd for sure!!!

Not me ;) I don't ever put the butterfly in the killing bottle :lol:

Caryl

It is a worldwide DVD release. Good, bad, or indifferent you have to know going into it that people are going to scrutinize it and "put it under a microscope" its just human nature. Some people won't, but detail oriented people like myself are going to notice things like weird echo effects and lighting issues.

Doesn't mean the entire product is bad, will have to wait and see on that, but it is just honest opinions and there isn't anything wrong with that.

Then we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm not one of those people who feels the need to scrutinize it or
"put it under a microscope" .... I'll simply enjoy the concert as a whole, and only comment on the DVD when
I've seen the final released version.

To be perfectly honest with you, my only wish is that The Giving Tree and Mad Mad World had been included
... hopefully they will both be released on video somewhere down the road because they have both been truly
amazing live on this tour.

Is it? It may be human nature for a minority but the majority of people who'll buy it will like it or dislike it as a whole DVD.

Exactly.

Well in all fairness you cut out half of what I said, but that's neither here nor there.

I will recluse myself from further discussion on the matter for the simple fact that nothing that I have seen so far has made me want to buy the thing, so I simply won't be spending my hard earned money on this.

I found the tour to be enjoyable overall but lacks something I can't put my finger on it though.

I agree. The members of this forum don't imo exactly represent Meat's wider fanbase but are a minority in themselves, and even on here many will just buy it, play it and enjoy it as a whole performance without the need to examine every aspect of the production. Meat's point that pinning it on a board and dissecting it down to the bones isn't the best way to enjoying it is well made in my view .. but most people won't do that.

Caryl

I'm hoping this statement is directed at MarkS and not EVERYONE on here, because the majority of people here have nothing but positive things to say about you and your work?!!!

Well I dont know what the hell you were listening to but he souded more than amazing to me!

Meat, from what I've heard on iTunes and on Youtube this DVD is gonna be freakin amazing!!! You sound more than amazing. You look like you had fun and any fan will love it and you, my good sir, should be bloody proud of what you do and what you are about to release as it looks and sounds perfect an anyone who doubts what you do needs their heads checking.

Never, ever, EVER stop rocking, else you'll have me to deal with lol.

Take care Meat!

I could ask you the same thing. Especially in relation to the iTunes material that you mentioned. Take Hot Patootie for instance, it is vocally terrible IMO. There comes a time where you start to notice that difference between screaming and singing

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Not to worry, I will be out of your hair by Sept. 2013. It will be like I was never here. Just gone like a puff of smoke.

:( Well that wasn't something I wanted to read first thing today. I'm hoping that train of thought is just a fleeting thing...

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I know I'm being incredibly thick but what do you mean? :confused:

If that means you'll be ended with touring it would be very sad for us :( But never will it be like you were never there. You have filled stages with your presence far too often for it not to live on in our memories, and it would seem deafeningly silent and empty without you.

I too hope it's a reaction to the post you quoted. Your vocals have been marvellous the past couple of tours. And at every show you do during the next year there will be thousands who leave delighted, with another evening of something very special to hold dear.

You sing .. and thousands of hearts beat faster, thousands of faces are wreathed in happy smiles, thousands of voices join you .. many woefully out of key but filled with joy as they rock along with you :-)

Caryl

I absolutely agree Deena :(

You have my attention....... :(

Nor did I, but this does not seem to be a spur of the moment thought. Seems to be something being planned.

That is what is worrying me. :(

Mine too :(

:yep:

You have my attention too Meat and always will :( All I can add is thank you again for all of the amazing times we've had so far on this tour, and those that are still yet to come.

That wasn't a particularly nice way to break it to all the LOYAL AND DEDICATED fans on this forum, if that is what was being implied. Yet again, ONE negative post gets all the attention! What about all of us who have been supporting Meat for decades? Do we even exist???

:wtf: When I logged in today and saw "68 new posts" I thought something interesting had happened. But no, it's the same quarrelling and the same silly games as usual. :angry: What has become of this place??? I'm abandoning all hope. Nothing will change, it will only get worse, I guess.

On the bottom of the article it says : FANS WILL LOVE THIS !!!!! And I...have faith in that !!! So Meat : I believe it was worth the long wait for us !! ;D

Meat, what do you mean ? :( Don't stop because someone has negative comments...there are many people like me who appreciate your work very much. I know that you love what you're doing and you do it with passion... If you decide to quit one day i'll respect your decision but when that happens...honestly...I will miss you !!! And...you will never ever be forgotten, never !!!! I could never forget you !! Love you !! XX

:up:

yep !! same old stuff. I can get insulted all over the internet , but I just come here when I need a good insult. So it will really hurt my feelings . You have to go to a place where it says Fan Club for it to hurt like it should. I always know some one will have a good one here. Let me say this to all who say positive things I really thank you, you don't go unnoticed . Hope I can always live up to
your expectations , I will give you everything I have to give. Again, Thank you very much.
M

:( It's all about respect .. which IMO is truly lacking around here.

You're very welcome Meat. Like I've said before, your time and dedication to your fans is something that I will always admire, and you will always live up to my expectations (and more). Thank you very much too.

Vicki

I wish it were different for you. :(

This means a lot to read. At least we don't go unnoticed. I was hoping some of the positive comments would offset the negative enough to help keep you here and actively post. It's just never watered down enough to keep your feelings from getting hurt here. It's frustrating.

Meat..you kick ass in whatever you do and I mean that from the bottom of my heart! I also know a fan site you can go to where its nothing but positive vibes towards you ...oops did I say that!!! Lol

Meat your simply the best and don't let those naysayers get you down. Love ya man. Oh and please don't retire :(

:( You've always lived up to my expectations.... And then some.... A lot more "some" in fact.

Also, thanks Meat, it means a lot, I'm always behind you.

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Thanks Wario for posting this :)
Well.....the review was mostly ok, but what s**t me about it was when Joe said about "The sound recording is spot on, and while at times he may struggle to the hit the notes". Struggle to hit the notes??? Meat sang pretty bloody well in the Hunter Valley, and concert performances aren't suppose to sound polished and note perfect. What a tosser!
Then we go to this statement "Meat Loaf is not as energetic as he once was but still holds a commanding presence". Well excuse me but Meat puts on a f***ing good show regardless of what energy he puts into it ;) For the young age of 64 he's still got it in my books :)
Otherwise the review wasn't too bad ;)

Everyone has there own opinion and way of looking at things ;) If some people want to look at every aspect of the dvd and compare it to previous ones, then that is fine ;) As long as it is constructive critisism and that there is respect shown towards Meat in doing so ;)

As for "my only wish is that The Giving Tree and Mad Mad World had been included"......impossible to add something to an Australian tour dvd if the songs weren't released world wide. That is why we only had Stand in the Storm, which imo was the more appropriate song to have in the dvd ;)

Meat, Meat, Meat! I will have to give you a positive cyber kick up the ass mate lol, as to me and many many many others here you are awesome :) You truely are and will always be an inspiration to me, your music will always keep me going, and I do hope and pray that your strength, courage and enthusiasm brings you back to Australia for another tour. DON'T YOU EVER STOP ROCKING!!! Lol, a classic scene from your concert that always makes me laugh, which you may have to use on those with no respect for you is the good old middle finger and say well f**k off! ;) You don't need to hurt, and shouldn't be made to. KEEP ON ROCKING!!! :)

I've been a fan of yours for about 14 years and I have never been disappointed in any of your work, and you have quite frequentely exceeded them by a great deal. I went to one of your shows almost two years ago and I was expecting to enjoy it but I left with a 'WOW' feeling that I don't honestly believe that any other performer will manage to beat.

I've heard wonderful things about your shows this summer and what fine voice you're in and there's lots of people saying it too. :-)

I've never been disappointed in anything you've done and I know that there are 1000's of people as psyched for the DVD as I am! Just looking at your facebook page the amount of loyal fans waiting to see your shows and heap well deserved praise on you. Sadly there are people who focus on the negatives out there and even more annoyingly people tend to be more forthcoming with dislike rather than praise. We love you Meat so please don't retire yet :(

Sadly not everyone has the skill of doing this, so the person being criticised will understandably feel this way:

I think the positive comments outweigh the insults, and I believe you do too, but I also understand that it's the insults that hit home and hurt. They would to most of us imo.

I know you notice ;) You give so much, your "all" is so much greater than so many performers. And that doesn't go unnoticed either, as you must see at the end of every show when you look out at that audience standing on its feet, cheering and willing you to never leave the stage, because you have fully lived up to all their expectations, and for many like me, somehow managed to exceed them :D Long may you have that energy and determination, because you make the world a better place for being such a vital part of it.

Caryl

Meat, thank you for saying that, it means a lot. I understand why you get hurt by negative comments, I just wish that you could find a way of ignoring them; easier said than done, I know, but there is so much love for you here, if only you could focus more on that. xx

You're welcome and...Thank you too Meat, well... that's exactly the reason I don't spend much time here... :( I like it more on the Facebook fanpages...Most of the time you can find me there ! ;)

Thank you for that nice message to us on my birthday !! ;) I'm on a high and happy vibe now !! ;) You're so sweet !!! I love you !!!:-P <3

I hope to meet you again... It probably won't be soon...but... next year...hopefully...When you tour the UK again, it's difficult for me to travel to the US... :( But I'd do anything to meet you again lol ;-)) I want you to know that I still think every day about the first time I met you last february in London (England). ;D Good memories ! Don't you ever ever stop rocking !!! Love you !!! XXX <3

I was wondering if the move to Austin had something to do with Meat going back to his roots (sort of) to retire; looks like it might be on the cards for next year then. :(

Glad you notice the positives. Saw you in Durham in August and it was fantastic. There will always be the occasional negative comment when people express opinions, but well over 90% of what is posted here is very positive. If people were 90% + positive about me I'd take that any day. Always going to be some negatives in life. I got the impression that you were not so much reacting to the comment when you mentioned Sept. 2013 than that you had something in the works for that already.

Why did you quote my post? Obviously you and I don't criticize the same thing.

And this is the same guy who in the other thread is asking Meat to put up board tapes for him to listen to!!! Lmao

You insult him in one thread and then ask him for a favour in another?!!!!!!

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

We love you Meat! And if next September is it thank you very very much. I hope I will get to see you one last time :-)

And this from the guy who made the statements about timing on the giving tree performance that ran Meat off the last time :facepalm: selective memory you got there.

Quite frankly Meat overreacted to my statement. One person expresses a dislike for 1, I'll say that again, 1 product, that being the DVD, and meats reaction is to announce retirement.

And your damn right I want board tapes. The MMW IMO is much better than the GP tour, and I would like to have a professional recording of it.

So in the future let us not forget our own past when scolding someone in the present, because that is just a tad hypocritical. :facepalm:

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I was wondering if I was the only one who noticed this :lol:

No .. but I always enjoy irony ;)

Caryl

:twisted: :lol:
Meat, with your next release, do a box set of a DVD and a 6 pack of beer.
No better way to stop overanylising stuff than to just have a f*cking good time :mrgreen:


True.
Very true.


Unless you're talking about me because i'm so goddam awesome :mrgreen:



True.
Some people will do that.
But it doesn't mean they should

See my earlier comment regarding beer and rock n roll.
We call this concept "Fun" :mrgreen: (<-----this guys getting quite the outing this post).


Again, true.
We are here for honest opinion posted in a respectful manner.
OK "sounds far from perfect" isn't the nicest thing you could say, but i'll lay whatever odds anyone wants to throw down that it's nowhere near the worst thing he's had said to him in the last 35 years.


Quoted for truth.

Again, if you listen to it for the purposes of "Fun" you'll have a great time, i'm sure.
Listen to it as some sort of homework project and the fun sort of flies away.

Get tanked and sing along :cheers: (I should have been in advertising :bleh: )



And the vast majority of our minority have been nothing but positive.

Who could ask for anything more without the building of a gulag? :shrug:

Before - :D :? :mrgreen: :bunny: :bicker: :metal: :twisted: 8)

After - :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

:twisted: Never gonna happen bro :nope:
You think that, you don't know us.

But you could have at least said............

:mrgreen:

Sorry, the devil makes me do it :oops:



You know something, all hysterics on this thread aside, I agree with this :yep:



One person on this thread has said something you don't like so you slate the fanclub? :wtf:
That's not exactly fair Meat.
That's like blaming all English people because Piers Morgan is an asshole. :wtf:

See the comment above about not pleasing everyone.
It's TRUE.
Come on, you know this by now Meat.
I can't believe this is the same guy who stood on a sidewalk in New York shouting "F*CK YOU CLIVE".

If you see the odd comment that isn't positive here it's because you are not god, you are not perfect, and not everyone will be pleased by every single thing you do.

But if I had your overall approval rating.......... :faint:

Also consider that your fans are those most likely to know you best, and expect the best. Sometimes standards can be unrealistic.

And one final thing to consider.
People know your work here, so you might not be criticised anywhere else like you are here (which I personally don't believe) but you also don't have such an outporing or love, support, and affection either many other places either.


You know this yourself because you wrote.................


You always live up to mine, and I thank you.



This is my point, Vivki. It really really really isn't lacking.
Read this thread again and see how upset and supportive of Meat people are.



If the ammount of positive comments are not enough to water down the minority of negative opinions, then we're going to need a bigger boat.



Yes :up:

I understand this. It's not nice being criticised. But anyone who stands on a stage will get it. Even within their own fanbase. But the love always outways the negative opinion.


If I ever get approval like that i'll fly you all in for my opening night at Wembley :wink:

You said "We are here for honest opinion posted in a respectful manner. OK "sounds far from perfect" isn't the nicest thing you could say, but i'll lay whatever odds anyone wants to throw down that it's nowhere near the worst thing he's had said to him in the last 35 years." Undoubtedly Mouse, but as the performer I would feel the word "screaming" a pretty insulting comment, and as me consider it far from respectful as well as likely to provoke a reaction.

True :up::up: .. and as I said, I believe Meat knows this and values it. I also think (in no small part because of this) he's been working on NOT being guy who stood on a sidewalk in New York shouting "F*CK YOU CLIVE" when he comes here ;) :-)

Caryl

*"Screaming" Mayor may not have been the best choice of words for the matter. But when I listen to the clip of hot patootie that's what I feel it sounds like. And what I have said on this thread being labeled as right or wrong does not change how I feel about the product. Simply expressing what I feel about this product and this product only

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Which is ok, it's the continually expressing your feelings about this product despite you saying you weren't going to say anything else that's beginning to grate on me.

Well the reason that I have done that is because several people have addressed me directly and I felt the need to respond to some of their issues. When people stop addressing me i will not have a reason to post on this thread

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Me too! :-)

We won't let you go Meat - I am pretty tuff you know!!! ;) x

Actually you want to get your facts straight. Fact is I made a mistake and apologised for it, which I don't see you doing so it's completely different.

Plus also Meat didn't run off because of me. He ran off because of the stick he had taken from so many other members, it just so happened my mistake was there to be used at the time as an example why he was leaving. You know how I know this? Meat and I spoke via PM and settled it.

So you are completely and utterly wrong in both regards, plus you slate Meats vocals on songs as being terrible, and then ask him for something.

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Enough with the personal attacks.
There is a difference between personal opinion and attacking someone.
Any more will earn the poster a few points and get the thread locked.

In fact, let's put a stop to this whole game of Who Shot John and get back to the subject of the DVD and the review.

Good idea. Have there been any other reviews?

Dya know what, I wish I hadn't put anything on here. I stated that I was excited about the new DVD and what I heard so far sounded fantastic and it has just escalated into something I didn't want to see.
Meat, I dont want you to be out of my hair this time next year. I really dont. You have made an awesome collection of albums in my car. I truly, truly hope you continue to do what you do but I want you to be happy doing it. If you're not happy doing it then you do what you feel is right of course.
I am sorry to everyone, including Meat Loaf, for my original comment which has spurred on all the negativity and arguing that Meat has had to read.

I would like to apologise again for my original comment.

Take it easy guys and dont take it all to heart please, Meat! I still love ya!

Meat, please, please, please dont make a decision whilst you're heated or upset because, someone once said to me, "Ollie, when you're heated or upset or angry, you dont ever, ever, ever make a drastic decision because it will be the one and only decision you will ever regret making." And Meat, I would like you to promise us you will calm down, away from this forum and seriously have a good think about it all, because quite frankly millions of people, worldwide, love you and respect you.
Take care Meat! Xx

Well said. It was only one person, who from what I can see, is usually hugely positive. Its not like the negativity was disrespectful or abusive imo, and certainly not enough to start another posting war ... I think we definitely need that boat ... :twisted:

Ollie you have nothing to apologise for, absolutely nothing. Why should you apologise for a positive good comment? Yes there have been arguments but that is not to do with you. You have nothing to apologise for. I too am super excited about this DVD, only 7 days to go! And it does sound great! I can't wait to get my surround sound on!

Please don't be so hard on yourself Ollie ... you're excited about the DVD, and you have nothing to apologize for.

Vicki, sweetie, it seems to me that everytime I post on here or I support Meat it escalates into something that it shouldn't escalate into. To be quite honest sweetie, I'm starting to feel the same way as Meat is feeling about this forum!

Check this out
 

His pitch is not perfect and he is still great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O09ZVTOI1KU
m

Just agreeing with you, Yep Same old stuff !!!!

I don't claim to know, but if I had to hazard a guess, I doubt Meat makes career decisions with a certain date named over a negative post on a message board.

No I think it should be a case of beer !!!

Tell me where you heard it ?
M

I think you are correct !!
M

No I know that but the point I was trying to make was not to let things get to you because you do find yourself making decisions that really, at the time, you shouldn't. We're all human and we've all done it and most probably will do it at some point

I read that as though you said it like you did on the MSO DVD - "I think you hit the note a little bit early".

Well it made me chuckle anyway. :)

"Cut - let's go back!"

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On iTunes, they have a minute and a half previews of each song. Hot patootie begins at the first verse and ends at the end of the second chorus. The clearest example of what I'm talking about is when you go into "hop in the backseat, really had a good time"

I will probably get lambasted for saying this, but it sounds like more of a yell than a note, To the point that by the time you hit the word time, it sounds like your voice cracks On that word both times.

In my opinion, the version of hot patootie that was released alongside the "if I can't have you" single was a much stronger version of the song, Featuring a much stronger vocal performance than what I am hearing from the guilty pleasure offering.

I apologize if I offended you with what I said, I was simply trying to say what I thought about that particular song

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I'd take it...usually a tequila fan, but a good Meat Loaf beer would be pretty awesome. Random question....Meat, the rumor is you are a tequila fan...do you have a fave brand?

:shock: In this case I must have done something wrong, because I don't agree with you - at least not with regard to the accusation that we are eager to insult you. Sorry.

I referred to the overall discussion culture on this forum, the tendency to play the blame game and to make each other feel guilty. I'm tired of it. Apparently it's not about music and exchanging ideas anymore, it seems to be more about egos.

Sorry if you don't like this post but that's how I have been feeling about this forum for quite a while now.

He is great.. I had never heard him before, sorry for my ignorance. But when he sings at the beginning, from about 2:20 to 3:30, tears came to my eyes, because I could feel the pain he was singing about.

Meat, you have exceeded my expectations every time I've seen you. And that's a lot of times. There's always a surprise, always something new that thrills me or takes my breath away or makes me cry. You always make me laugh, too :)

That young guy in Bossier City was right (it's funny how this has come to mind a bunch of times since then) when he said "Once in a lifetime!!" because that's what your shows are! Each and every one is a once in a lifetime experience.
Love, Kathy

That is what is worrying me and this is not the first time that 2013 has appeared as a significant date. If there is something going on in September 2013, will it be announced before then? Could it be what the previously mentioned October announcement is all about?

What was the previously mentioned october announcement?

It doesn't really give out many details on what the announcement is about but it has now crossed my mind that it may be an announcement that we may not like:

http://www.expressmilwaukee.com/arti...meat-loaf.html

Oh dear

You have always lived up to my expectations and then some Meat. I'm really looking forward to the DVD and trying to spot myself in the crowd.

Carole

Happy Tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuesday, meatie peepPeeps ... xo
 

Well... in Sept 2013 Meat will be 66 and able to collect Social Security... if there IS still monies in the SS funds by then... lol ... Maybe he's going to r r r r retire ... :shock: ... lol ... xo

That's what I have also been thinking, Jenna. After what Meat said earlier about being out of our hair in September 2013, it makes it seem even more likely that he is about to announce his retirement from the music business. Then there's the recent move back to his home state of Texas to consider. I, for one, am going to be GUTTED if this is the case. :(

Although, of course, the guy HAS to retire sometime! Was just hoping it wasn't going to be just yet.

ooooooooooooooh I have it in my hand! :) Busy in the office though so can't give it a listen to yet! booooooooooooooo. Pic anyone?!

Please! :D

As long as you mean the DVD ;)

:lmao:

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