Meat Loaf Endorses Mitt Romney For POTUS
 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...orsement-ever/


http://youtu.be/SR_r5HpeWpE

The aging rocker, perhaps best known for his 1994 hit "I'd Do Anything for Love (But I Won't Do That)," performed a series of power ballads familiar only to the most devoted Meat Loaf fans. In between, he offered a meandering and sometimes slurred endorsement of the GOP nominee, explaining that he'd never before publicly backed a political candidate.

What did he sing?

I bet Romney doesn't have an awesome campaign song like Obama does. :))

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.....I bet Romney doesn't have an awesome campaign song like Obama does. :))[/QUOTE]

I agree with you 100% on that one Julie!

Forward! And away we go....:lol:

Mitt Romney is a horrible human being. After watching that youtube video I think the big guy is losing his wits with age. I would like to hear someone defend his singing in that clip, simply horrible.

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Ewwwwwwww. Why MITT

SITS was performed:

http://www.politico.com/multimedia/v...or-romney.html

America The Beautiful:

YouTube Video

I am not voting for Mitt Romney... but I am very proud of Meat Loaf for using his "backbone" to finally stand up and endorse a candidate. It makes me proud to be a fan. There is nothing to defend...Meat Loaf is a big boy who made a decision, I don't necessarily agree with it, but will support him for doing it. He is making big time headlines with this public stance. I totally back his decision to stand up for Mitt.

Please refrain from using all caps...that is considered shouting and in very poor internet etiquette. Also, please attack words - not people...that is also in poor taste. It is one thing to say you disagree with Meat Loaf's choice of candidate, but to make judgement on him based on this decision is crossing the line.

Please - let's keep a sense of decorum and decency around here people.

And with that, I'm officially concerned how What Part of My Body and all the rest will sound if Meat ever works with Steinman again.

That wasn't even early 80s Meat Loaf.

I feel the same way, although I think Ernie summed up my view of Romney above :3

Sadly I think any casual observer would probably agree. I hate 'celebrities' endorsing political candidates, especially right wing ones, although on the strength of Meat's behaviour in this video I imagine it'll do more harm than good.

Even though I don't support his political choices, I could get over that.

The singing was just... awful.

who cares????? In the live atmosphere its different. U just heard a raw board feed. terrible mix.

LOL!!!!!!

You seriously don't mean that ? He's a singer, he's supposed to sing well, that's why we're all here ?

Meats version of what part of my body would sound fantastic. just the image of Paul's mix of that song makes me horny.

Just a suggestion for this thread... As with any talk of religion or politics.... might be best to type out your comments... count to 30 and take some deep breaths.... then revise and repeat until you are surely sure you want to post what is on your screen.

I would have said the same thing before I clicked on that video link above :shock:

... whatever turns you on I guess ... but if it ever happens it'll be Steinman's production not Paul's surely ?

Im surprised at you. I really am.

Sorry :oops: All my dreams of a Steinman / Meat reunion just took a hit below the belt. I'm a little disappointed, to say the least.

I'm going to listen to Dave and leave this thread before I say anything else I might regret :(

You're a cool guy Wario, but like many people on this board ML could go on Country wide killing spree and you would find a way to defend it.

I'm going to pretend that this thread, that YT clip and ML endorsing a detestable human being never happened.

Oh dear. I dont like how this is going to end up. Think its a bad move.

I sense Springsteen's support for Obama is more strong and relevant really.

I don't think there is much weight in Meat's support if I'm honest. At the end of the day he has not really sung a lot of political songs unlike people like Dylan and Springsteen nor has he really made politically related statements at concerts before as far as I am aware. So why support? How is it related to Meat's music?

The singing in that video sounded awful by all of the guys. It looked like a drunk night out at a karaoke bar with Mitt the shit.

Mitt is a lemon who Meat Loaf shouldn't back.

After that spectacle do you think Meat and Jim will ever work together again?

Do you think Meat and many other people will ever work together? :shock:

Yeah one other. Mitt Romney.

Politics and rock don't mix. Sad to see that Meat has abandoned this principle after standing by it for so long. I'd be saying that regardless of which candidate he endorsed. Music unites. Politics divides, and this is likely to divide his fanbase. A rock star telling people to get out and vote is one thing - a rock star telling people who they should vote for is quite another.

Meat's music has conveyed principles, emotions and values without relying on party politics the way many others have. I always considered that to be a great strength.

Meat Loaf, as a name, as a public person and as a performer, means something to the general public. I see no purpose to celebrity endorsement other than to make the traits associated with that celebrity associated with that particular political candidate. It ties them together, 'Think Meat Loaf, think Romney' or else what's the point?

Hell In A Handbasket proved Meat could convey his values without asking to pick sides. This just puts up a barrier between fans. At the risk of sounding rude, I'd wager that a ringing endorsement for one side or the other probably does more damage to Meat Loaf fandom than it does good for the candidate.

He certainly didn't endear himself with the British folk when he dropped a couple of clangers during his Olympic visit!

I feel fooled. Meat has disappointed me. With his performance, with what he said, and how he said it. I feel sad.

I very much disagree. Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan? :roll:

Regardless of what happened here, I always knew Meat supported the republicans. As much as I disagree with their view points on many things it doesn't really change my opinion on Meat's music because as I said his music isn't political. This is different with the before mentioned artists.

I made that exact point in my post.

'Meat's music has conveyed principles, emotions and values without relying on party politics the way many others have.'

I just don't understand the hate towards Meat over this. Emotionally or in any other way his speaking out has not changed how I feel or think of him. Granted, I am not American, but I think that means diddly squat as far as how you treat a human who has voiced his opinion, respectfully at that.

The man stood up and voiced his opinion, which is something that's getting harder and harder to do without scrutiny these days. I applaud him for that, so many people sit back and keep quiet, then kick up the stink later down the track.

On Twitter I likened it to me hating my coach because he likes chocolate and maybe I like strawberry flavour... It is pointless. All this hate over something so petty.

Meat has Mitts back? I don't care, I have Meat's back regardless of who he supports. Personally I prefer Obama *shrugs* but Meat means more to me than some politician who has nawt to do with me. Especially seeing as even politics in my own country is something I don't care for.

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"Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed."

I don't think anyone's expressed hate (unless I've missed it).

What if your coach told you to like chocolate flavour, that chocolate flavour was the right choice and that you should argue with anyone who says differently?

Most people hold matters such as human rights, wars, healthcare etc. closer to heart than that anyhow.

Chocolate trumps political views. :-P

Hating aplenty on his facebook, not here, sorry should have been specific.

As for your other point, I'd have to respectfully disagree and carry on supporting strawberry. Without abusing him and telling him I will no longer play in his team because he likes chocolate and I dont! Even though I love my team, love my sport and think he's a pretty awesome, experienced coach.... Because chocolate v strawberry is much more important than all that... "Grab yer pitchforks!" (for the record, I prefer chocolate!)

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Perhaps not here Michael, but elsewhere? Yes. Trolls abound. You said:
'Meat's music has conveyed principles, emotions and values without relying on party politics the way many others have.' This has not changed; it still does.

Would I vote Republican if I were an American? Absolutely not. Would I defend anyone's right to support whomever they choose? Yes .. that's what the "Freedom of speech" I see so frequently bandied about here and elsewhere on the internet is all about surely?

Meat is a fantastic performer, a lovely human being with real soul, who is kind and gracious with his fans. That's enough for me.

And I'd give you a hundred of the jackasses who don't even BOTHER to vote in our elections (particularly women who had to fight to even get the vote only a hundred years or so ago) for ONE man who cares enough to vote, and to put himself on the line.

Caryl

Everything I've seen about Romney gives me the impression that he is willing to pat the lower-middle classes on the head, looking down his nose at them ,all the while helping out his friends and fellow millionaires.

The impression i get from Obama is that he's someone that has a better grasp of what it is like for lower-middle classes and is trying to change it.

I liken America to a heart attack patient at the moment; they had 8 years where so many things that can damage them were constantly piled on before the heart attack hit and now it's slowly trying to recover by making some strides but not overdoing things because all the problems could come back again and force another collapse.

As for that performance of America the beautiful, if Meat hadn't tried to be 'Meat Loaf' and just sang it, I doubt there'd be the reaction there has been.

Maybe he just got caught up in the moment but I doubt anyone not knowing who he was would've come away from watching that thinking 'Hey, I'd better get me some Meat Loaf albums'

Oh and just to add I don't care who supports what political party, we all have our reasons for doing so.

When all's said and done, 'I like chocolate more than strawberry' isn't going to cause offense, upset or alienation from people who disagree. 'I don't think you should have the right to do this or that' is, and when you endorse a political candidate you are also endorsing their often very divisive views.

The people on Facebook may well be thinking that by endorsing Mitt Romney, Meat has now publicly declared his views on all kinds of topics - women's rights, gay rights, military, taxes, healthcare and so on. I'd wager previously none of us really wondered about what Meat thought of those issues. Personally, I had no real desire to know and was happy that people from all walks of life could come together and enjoy the music without thinking about that.

Why does it matter what presidential candidate Meat supports? I don't know, ask him. He's the one who decided to make it a matter of public record.

Should it change the way his fans think or feel in any way? If not, then why bother doing it?

Politics is NOT place for celebrities!!! I'm very disappointed that Meat would sink this low and endorse such a arrogant pompous sun of a bitch. Like Obama says "the last thing we need is to move backward, we need to move forward".

Does he actually think that Romney is gonna get more votes just becaues he is endorsing him? :roll: If he wins it's gonna be like having Bush back.

I stand firm with Obama!!!

I could really give a crap what any celebrity political alignment is, It will have absolutely no bearing on how I vote.

But I'm sorry dude, there is no defending that vocal performance at all. That was one of the most atrocious things I have ever heard

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Sorry but Meat made a fool out of himself and he'll never live it down. :oops:

I did say, I'm not American, I have no idea what his policies are, nor do I care. I care about Meat, yes. I'm not trying to argue who is right and who is wrong, plus I have already mentioned how I sit with this.

Chocolate & strawberry was merely an example and the most simple thing I could think of (my coach over indulged in hot chocolates the other week, so it was relevant to me)

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Shall we list all the musicians who have openly supported Obama?

Everyone on here is always talking about Meat's "rights" and that he deserves "respect". Now we see people's true colors, you want to slag on him because he did not endorse the liberal. Meanwhile Katy Perry was endorsing Obama, joining Springsteen, etc. and not a whimper. People are hypocrites. You say Meat deserves our respect then respect his right to make his choice. He is a grown man and knows what he is doing. Go Meat! I support your right to endorse whomever you choose, even if you had picked the other guy.

Again - please, if you feel the need....attack words not people. Name calling and personal attacks do not help promote intelligence on your side of the argument.

Maybe people outside the US may not understand but it is in no way "cool" for a celebrity to endorse a conservative. It can cost them work because the entertainment industry with the possible exception of country music is almost entirely liberal. Meat has even mentioned this before. What Meat did was brave and he exercised his right and that should be IMO respected.

At least they have taste!

I rest my case.

I totally agree with this statement. I am not only an American, but also live in the battleground swing state of Ohio, so trust me...I get it. Let me point you to an article on HuffPo about this very topic:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1858468.html

The Huffington Post is not conservative or Republican, and even they will openly state things are much more difficult for conservative people in the entertainment industry.

If you feel like there's any point, knock yourself out. Last I checked, this is a Meat Loaf forum.

If 'other people use their celebrity to tell people how to vote so Meat Loaf should too' is your justification, I must say I find it to be a pretty weak one. Other celebrities go on Celebrity Big Brother too. Other celebrities mime to backing tapes in their concerts. Other celebrities don't attract a mixed audience of young and old and men and women to the degree that Meat Loaf does. Other celebrities don't put as much effort into their shows as Meat Loaf does, and few attract such fanatical devotion from their audience.

I don't think there's anything brave or admirable about telling people how they should vote or acting like your status in music, TV, movies or anything else should sway them to your opinion. I find that to be pompous and ridiculous, whoever does it.

I wonder how the decision to perform at the rally sat with the rest of the band. We know Meat is a republican but having the full band there performing may have been a bit awkward for any of the members that don't share his views.

Cant stand that Mitt fella, seems a right clueless individual, Obama seems the right guy to carry on taking the US forward, but who ever Meat decides to back is his own decision, just wish back in 2010 just over half of the UK wasn't fooled by Clegg and Cameron, now that is a total mess

Why? It is a job, nothing more/nothing less. Back when I was in high school, we were required as part of band class to perform at rallies for both Democrat and Republican candidates. You go, you play...it is an honor no matter who the candidate is. You can perform without endorsing.

http://news.sky.com/story/1002978/me...nce-for-romney

some sky news stuff

I may not AGREE with Meats choice of endorsement....BUT That does NOT mean I stop supporting him as an ARTIST! He is still a kind, gentle, and very talented man. And no "endorsement" he makes will EVER change that!

I wonder if Gene Simmons is catching :shit: over on the KISS board for endorsing Romney? I wonder if any Obama endorsers fans are giving them :shit: on their boards?

Exactly, I'm still a Springsteen fan. Who he chooses to endorse does not bother me at all.

If you care, go find out. This isn't a KISS forum.

I don't know why you keep bringing up that other artist's have endorsed candidates as if it hasn't already been addressed multiple times in this thread.

I realize that subtlety probably goes over your head, but I was pointing out about an artist catching crap from his own fans about a personal choice they have a right to do is somewhat amusing. I'm making a point about Meat Loaf fans on a Meat Loaf forum, sorry I was expecting not to have to hit anyone over the head with a hammer to make a point. Obviously that was wrong around here.

A point that you'd already made about 3 times and had already been responded to. Meat Loaf has a history of doing things differently than other artists. He has a history of not using his fame for political motives. This has changed, he has publicly endorsed a candidate and publicly endorsed the views that go along with that, and so people feel it is worthy of comment. Posting links to Wikipedia lists of other celebrities who have endorsed other candidates is redundant. Resorting to weak insults doesn't help either.

If Meat decided to release his own range of condoms and coffins and do his own scripted fly-on-the-wall reality show you could say 'Gene Simmons did that too, I wonder if Gene Simmons gets crap from KISS fans because blah blah blah...'

Your point seems to be 'other people do it, so it's okay for Meat Loaf to do it'. Well, it doesn't mean that he should, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't feel it's a bad decision and it doesn't mean that we can't have an opinion when he changes the way he's been handling his politics for 40 years.

Weak insults, like implying I did not know this was a Meat Loaf forum? As far as a point being responded to, how do we engage in a discussion if we can not answer once something has been responded to (often weakly). You don't like the wikipedia link don't read it, knock yourself out.

Pointing out that 'I wonder what Gene Simmons fans say about Gene Simmons on KISS forums' is not a relevant post for a Meat Loaf forum isn't an insult, it's common sense.

You posted a link to politician-endorsing celebrities. I explained why I didn't feel like it was relevant. You ignored that, didn't respond to any of it and instead pointed out another politician-endorsing celebrity (Simmons) and then another one (Springsteen). That's not a response, it's ignoring what was said and just repeating yourself.

It wasn't your post I posted it about. I just learned that I have a Hurricane to be concerned about (went from yellow advisory, to orange) so I will bid adieu. Best wishes to all East Coast loafers.

Stay safe.

Forget the politics of it all. One thing that stands out from this clip is that Meat Loaf's vocals are bad. Even the most die hard Meat Loaf fan would have to realise this and I'm one of them.

It looks like he wasn't "mic"d up. Or whatever the things in your ears are. They were nowhere near what tehy were last week, I'll put it THAT way.

Earpiece?

He most certainly was mic-ed up.

Yeah, THAT! Sorry.

Agreed.

And fair enough maybe he didn't have an earpiece so perhaps it was hard to get the right tune but I think there is more bad going on than just being out of tune. No doubt people will jump to his defence (which I don't think he needs or helps him) saying that he is more an actor than a singer now etc. But to me that makes no sense to send an actor to sing "America The Beautiful". If that was the case Clint Eastwood might as well have sung it alongside his stand up Barack Obama empty chair routine a few weeks ago. I actually think it would have sounded better, honestly. :?

Good luck ... stay safe !

Maybe the fireworks put him off.:roll:

It's Friday ... yay ... xo
 

lol ... Well... Meat HAS said in past... the day he's considered "cool" take him out and shoot him... so... he's safe there... lol ...

What I have issue with is... that the finger pointing, name calling, mud slinging in the circle of politics has become "entertainment" ... There's times I actually cry for a moment for my country and the people in it... There's nothing funny about any of it... As I age... I no longer can appreciate jokes being made about the candidates because I just feel we're in so much trouble... There's troubles all about the world ... It's all too sad ...

Rodney King was a troubled guy always in trouble... but one thing he said always comes to mind when I see issues like this arise... when I see the debating go to anger during political races... and that's ... "Can't we all just get along ?" ... Sometimes I feel that rather than having two candidates competing for being leader of my country, it's two invading countries coming in trying to take over...

Pray to your power for America and all nations of the world ... xo

THIS

One thing I hate with all this are the freepers (free republic} people "liking" his fb page and trolling it. They come on like Repub attack dogs and try to silence all the people they don't agree with. They do it all the time on CNN, Huffington, and Yahoo, They make sites really ugly and nasty. :(

Great post, Sue.

People need a refuge from the fighting and bickering of modern 2-party politics, many seek that in music and entertainment and prefer to keep it that way. I'm one of them.

I don't care about his political preferences but this was a terrible vocal display. And again YouTube is filled with it. After the AFL debacle and the CA outburst, now Meat seems to have scored another youtube hit :|

Watching it, for a second I thought Meat is actually vowing for the other guy :twisted:

:shock:

Hell in a Handbasket is a highly political Album and all you seemed to love it.

I dont see how any of you are surprised. 40 Days, Giving Tree, and ESPECIALLY Mad Mad World have a hugely politically motivated atmosphere.

Meat is in a political mood. Had he come straight forward and said HIAHB is a republican rock album hed be slaughtered.

Well, exactly that. HIAH projects core values, it doesn't say 'Vote for Romney, argue with your friends and family who don't vote for Romney'.

(I highly doubt Chuck D would have wanted to be a part of it, had it truly been a republican rock album. Blue Sky doesn't strike me as leaning that way either, but this is the problem - now people are inevitably going to read things into the songs that may or may not be there).

Yep.....what did I say? #mylastpost

Meat endorsing a right wing candidate is not so surprising. It sounds odd to me only because he never sang any political/social content song. We know the carachters Meat plays and we love them, knowing that there is nothing autobiographical. So this thing about Romney comes out of nowhere, and I don't know if it was a good move. Maybe at this point of his life and career he wants us to know "all of him", literally!

I think a lot of us are in the same boat

Probably not, but then that wasn't the purpose. As far as I can make out, he went to this immediately after the Cleveland show where he had been on stage for well over two hours, in good voice and giving it everything he had .. and that's not just the view of a few fervent fans, but in published reviews. And I'm sure the same will be said by those who go to the next show, because his voice will be rested again.

:up:

Caryl

Just to clarify, I have no problem with Meat (or anyone else's) choice of political party. I do however, have a problem with him (or any musician) using his position as a performer to tell others who to vote for.

Of course, it's his life, his career etc. He's free to make that choice. Just personally, as a fan, I wish he hadn't for the reasons I cited earlier (divides the fanbase, colours opinions).

Except it's not Meat's music - largely - its Steinman's ...

:twisted: Meat supports Mitt Romney?


Oh :shrug:

I support Meat whole heartedly as an artist. It doesn't mean I have to agree with his politics.
It's funny that I noticed at least one person, who recently told me that my world is too full of Meat Loaf, go ape shit over Meat's personal political choice :lmao:
If an artists political leanings effect your enjoyment of their work, then you are much more invested in that artist personally than I am :mrgreen:
It's funny that I (among others) who am accused of supporting Meat Loaf the MAN is less effected by Meat's personal life choices.

I'm still backing Obama to kick Romney's ass! :kickass:



On the general subject of celebrities in politics..............
I don't think it's a good idea. Unless them themselves are running for office of course :lol:
As i've said above, I like Meat because he's a great artist. His political views, to me, are about as relevant as Roy Orbison's driving skills. Completly alien to my source of interest :wtf:
I might as well pick a football team to support based on which football team managers own a Westie :nuts:

I think for an artist to back a political candidate, they risk alienating part of their fan base. At the same time, I can't see many Romney fans being converted to Meat's music just because of his political support.
For the artist, and some of the fans, no good can come of it :nope:

I feel entertainers should be impartial in such things. We are there to entertain the public, not preach to them (unless that's their act :lol: ).
Can you imagine a political variety show?

First on the bill is a Labour Singer.
Then we've got a conservative magician (the lib dem is the girl in the yellow frock being sawn in half).
Then it's a BNP stand up comedy act (reading their manifesto)
A Green Party Juggler.
An Indipendant mime.
A Socialist puppeteer.
An anarchist doing origami.
A right wing blogger doing balloon animals.

Followed by the big finish - the ensemble singing Johnny Cash's The One In The Middle Was The One On THe Right.

:lol:



Some political singers do very well, but again, that's their act. And their act (to me) seems to be "isn't the government we have at this present time a bitch?".
No political singer in the history of anywhere is ever known to be happy.
The lyrics "well this is a bit of alright isn't it?" don't appear often.

But on the other hand, artists have their views and the right to air them if they feel strongly about it.

At the same time, i'll say this.

I've never bought a pair of underpants because someone else wears them.

I've never bought an aftershave named after someone.

I've never stayed at a hotel because it was endorsed by a comedian.

I've never been politically moved by an entertainer. No matter how funny they are, or how hard they rock.


I guess i'm not as starstruck as others :mrgreen:


One other thing to remember is that fans of other artists/actors/whatever have gone through far worse than their hero having some barmy political ideas.
I still feel very very sorry for Gary Glitter fans.
To follow an artist for all that time and then to hear something like that.
Now that's trully shaking.

'This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Red Pony Tours'

Someone is getting particularly sensitive ... :roll:

:twisted: I find that quite ironic.
I'm going to publicly endorse a political candidate, but FFS don't let anyone see it happen :lol:

Is it embarrassment caused by endorsing a poor candidate, or embarrassment caused by poor singing ... ? :shock:

:twisted: If it's the candidate, I don't think Meat would have backed him in the first place.
The singing, I don't know because i've not seen the clip.
I just think the red pony is doing it's usual job of clearing anything interesting to fans off youtube :shrug:

Amen to that! I agree 100%. If you are going to step into the nasty world of politics by publicly endorsing a candidate, then you need to be ready to take the heat for it.

I also agree 100%. Never thought that we ever would, but its cool :D

:twisted: I agree, to an extent.
If you put your head above the parapet, expect to get shot at.

But Meat has done ads for A1 Stek Sauce, and Gophone, and i've never bought either of those things either :shrug:
It seems his influence in these things doesn't effect me very much lol.

Meat Loaf trending in the top 10 on Twitter. First ive ever seen that

You can't buy either over here, and neither can you vote for the next President of the United States, so ML's influence is kind of limited over me also :D