Meat Loaf Announcement Will Dissapoint Fans ...
 

Meat Loaf
To my friends in the UK and Ireland
, I am going to write this again I have written it at least a 1000 times by now. There is a very very slim chance we will every do a show in the UK again. The chances are 95% against me every doing another show there . "THE LAST BAT " TOUR was great I can not
top that show . I love you all very much , and will always be grateful , for you friendship , for your loyalty and the joy you brought to the Music. I send this message From, Jim, all the band members I have played with , And Me . Thank you with all my Heart .
Meat 100% there will never be another tour. Don't forget the new Album will be out in March and I will be in the UK for Promo and most likely some in store signings. M

Yeah I saw that too but things are always changing with Meat so all you UK fan keep your hopes up. Meat did say that there will be a summer tour which looks like a four month tour so there's always a chance. I hope you all in the UK get a tour.

Meat Loaf Response...
 

I just read some comments That I don't care about my fans in the UK or Ireland . I would be almost 70 before I could do another tour over there. I would just be another person showing up to steal your Money . I will not take your hard earned money and not give you the kind of Meat Loaf show that you have seen for 35 years . I WILL NOT STEAL YOUR MONEY AND THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD BE. So the people who write I don't care about my fans , really do know nothing about me . M

Little drunk so bear with me. If anyone says ML disrespects fans they can come and talk to me it will be a one way conversation I can tell you that. I would love ML to come back to the UK but nothing can top LAB it was amazing.

The people who are writing ridiculous comments like that are not fans at all, Meat has toured the UK since the 70's and given everything he has each time, as much as I would love for him to come back to the UK for a few shows, i totally respect the fact that he might not, the guy is pushing 70 for god sakes, i'd like to see these ignorant people commenting like that on Facebook travel half way round the world and perform a show like Meat loaf does when they are in their 60's! Fans like that are not fans at all, they just make me really angry let alone Meat himself!!!! Rant over!! :)

Last at Bat was amazing but then I think 20 out of the 21 shows I've seen pretty much fit that category.

Never say never but it is totally understandable if there are no more shows. I'm very grateful to have seen some great great Meat Loaf shows and mostly from very good audience positions too.

i don't take the negative remarks seriously. People post stupid things if they are upset or want attention or a reaction. Don't give them the time of day.

I stated it before. For me, it ended with an Up, when I saw him the last time in Zwolle. It was, with everything happening after LAB, the perfect ending for me. So personally I'm not sad he won't be coming our way anymore. I'd probably be thinking of buying a ticket and I know for sure I wll be dissapointed. Not as much because of Meat's voice or age, but because it won't be the band I want to see.We all have our personal prefferences and I like to cherish the memories I have.

That said, I hope that everyone who wants to see Meat (and especially those who haven't been able for a long time) will get the oportunity to visit this short or the 2016 summer tour. And a decent goodbye to the fans in Australia would be nice. They have always be good to him.

I know people always get sideways if anyone mentions that Meat has lost maybe a step or two, but I appreciate Meat's honesty that he probably can't top what he has done before today and he doesn't just want to take people's money.

Meat's posts sound like he is very excited and happy and that he accepts that he can still give it all he has but that it likely isn't up to what he has already done( somewhat recently) for certain locations.

Meat worries too much IMO. HIS FANS love him and will respect and appreciate him no matter what. THIS TOUR will prove the naysayers wrong. He STILL has IT!

UK would have no reason to be upset. They got a hell of a last tour.

I think that for some people it's a case of realising that we will never see Meat Loaf perform on stage again and for some people saving up, planning and looking forward to shows has played a significant part in their lives. Even if people accept and understand the reasons behind Meat's decision, I think that it's only natural for some people to feel that something is now missing in their lives.

I agree .. but when their disappointment of a few outweighs their consideration for Meat's feelings and they post crap about him not caring for his UK fans, giving the USA preferential treatment, or saying he's in it for the money etc .. that's not excusable imo. The decision must be as painful for him as for any of us .. he still has the fire, the love of performing on stage with a band he loves creating music that excites him. To see that coming to a close must be a bitter pill.

Thankfully those who were like this were few and not representative of Meat's UK fans .. most posted their thanks, their regret that a chapter was coming to a end, their love, and acknowledgement that he had touched their lives and given them something that made a difference in their lives. Few of us can say that .. it's a pretty special legacy :-)

I agree there's being sad and disappointed and then there's this kind of behaviour which is less acceptable. I have to wonder if some of those people posting this kind of stuff don't know much about the kind of man that Meat is? We know how much his fans and his work means to him but to them? He's just a singer that they happen to like the music of.

We know that there are some people whose support of Meat depends entirely on whether he's doing what they want him to do and some who post to get a reaction out of him but thankfully the majority of people aren't like that.

if you really wanna see him go to usa , aircrafts fly there :)

No need. There will be shows closer to home. I'll bet my balls on it.

Unfortunately aircrafts cost money...


...lots of money. :(

Air fare to the US isn't too bad anymore. Only in peak times will you see massive hikes in fares. Not to mention flying via Europe will always bring the cost down. There is a massive fare war with airlines crossong the pond. At one point when I was booking this trip BA was going for £250 rtn which I was going to do but I managed to get steal with Air France. With enough research you can always find a cheap deal when travelling.

That's true .. although I always research and have never found fares under £300. But even that is a lot of additional money for many, many people. To fly out for just one show makes that night very expensive .. and you have to add accommodation, I'd argue for two nights at least. It makes sense to see more than one if you're investing in a transatlantic journey .. adding more accommodation and travel. Those who are lucky enough to be able to do it ARE fortunate .. and many won't be able to.

Yes Tony .. aircrafts fly there .. but I think Jenna has spotted that. And not all budgets are equal .. nor can everyone work for an airline ;)

BA and Norwegian were both £250 to JFK around a month ago, prices have gone up now as it's not long until November.

I won't lie I probably can't really afford to do this trip, but I'm not worrying about it. I've talked to a lot of people who have all said do it, you'll regret it if you don't. I love travelling and I'll worry about the cost later, if you want to do something do it. I'm sure Tony had the same mind frame when he went travelling (before Ethiad!).

I guess I'll always think of this song line, bottle of Port to whoever get's it without google...

"You've gone a million miles, how far did you get? To that place where you can't remember, and you can't forget".

Easy peasy- "Secret Garden"- Bruce Springsteen

I'll let you know where to send my prize. ;)

Springsteen ..... Now there's an overrated artist imo

Blahhhhh

I didn't promise it to be full, remember that. ;)

Good .. they weren't to where I would have needed to fly;)

And I'd agree with that in general .. if you have no family commitments and job security etc But many DO have commitments and/or uncertainty about being able to worry about the cost later. Not even Meat or any other dream is worth having your mortgage foreclosed and finding yourself homeless or running up debts you sink under later. I've been very fortunate and have been able to see Meat in the US many times .. but I know many fans simply aren't in that position. We see all the time US fans begging him to come to their city or state, even though gas is so cheap over there, and internal flights nothing like the cost for us to fly over there. But I don't know their circumstances .. and can only spend my money .. not that of others ;)

And? This isn't about you. I'm on about the tour in general. £250 RTN flight to NY where there a lot of shows in that part of the states, it's a pretty good place to fly.

It's not just about you either .. I'm simply saying that it may not be possible t get flights for under £300 .. perhaps not even close to that .. and for many whether it's £200 or £400 it's more than they can contemplate

Never said it was about me.

I'm sure we will all be delighted if you get to keep your balls ;)

Millions of fans disagree, but to each their own. ;)

Fair enough- let's wait until the next time Bruce tours, then we'll meet up and split it. ;)

I'm sorry Caryl, but this comment made me laugh. :lol: I know that gas is cheap in the US compared to the UK, but to us, it's still pretty expensive. (One of the biggest complaints) My city in particular has some of the highest gas prices in the country because of all the local taxes. Remember, it's a big country, and some cities are really far apart; internal flights can be pretty pricey, too, depending where you are going to/from.

Your point is still valid, of course- it doesn't matter how cheap it is if you can't afford it. Just as in Europe, I'm sure, there are many people who are lucky they can buy a ticket, much less travel and hotel costs.

I know how big the US is .. have travelled round some large states to see concerts myself, and did say that we don't know the circumstances of those in the US who aren't able to get to US based concerts. (And comparable average price for gas here is $8.40 per US gallon). My point has been all along that not everyone can afford to travel large distances, not everyone has the same options.

I know that's what you meant, Caryl, and I agree with you. ;) I wasn't being snarky, it genuinely made me laugh to think of gas being "cheap", even though, as I said, I realize it's much more expensive in the UK. And I know there are people (yourself excluded) who don't realize how spread out this country is once you get away from the Northeast (especially New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania); large cities where artists play are often pretty far apart.

Of course, it seems "normal" to diehard fans of an artist to travel for shows, but to many people, it seems crazy to travel hundreds, if not thousands of miles to go to a concert. Others might like to, but just can't, for various reasons (not only costs). Hence, all the pleas of, "Please come to (insert city)!"

Let's say Meat does twenty shows (just throwing a number out); if he does twenty different cities, which is a good number, that's still a large number of cities that get no shows at all.

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

The distances between cities is like travelling across Europe I bet. Also isn't it the case most Americans get far fewer paid for holiday days than us in Europe, making going to see multiple shows much harder / more of a calculated decision?

Location is kinda key I reckon. I could go see Meat 4-5 times over the last 3-4 tours without having to use a single holiday day and only using perhaps £20 on petrol and the odd super expensive train journey into London. That's pretty easy going rather than having to take flights etc.

I'm still pretty confident there will be the odd UK show in the future.

I agree .. one of the benefits of living on a small island is that whenever Meat has toured here the vast majority of fans can get to at least one show relatively easily

I understand the disappointment felt but the total non-consideration of Meat and how he feels and the ensuing responses were horrific to see. The majority were nice...the minority were disgraceful. No fan should be so rude and self thinking....otherwise they're no fan!

If Meat does not come where I live ...then i will go where he is. This is how I view it and I fully understand not everyone can go and there were many years, for differing reasons I could not go....I was always very happy for those who could and did!

Anyway, I am definitely looking forward to catching Meat in the USA soon.

I think you're right on both counts, and some people get no paid vacation time at all.

Location does make a difference as well. I'm lucky, I live in a major city, so we usually get at least one show on any large tour, but in most cases, I have to travel if I want to see multiple shows. Milwaukee (which is 90 miles or 145 km one way) is probably the next major tour stop (and many times artists don't play both Chicago and Milwaukee on the same tour leg) that is close enough that I don't need to get a hotel for the night. (There are a few road warriors who will drive 5 hours to a show and back the same night, but I'm not one of them.) After that, the closest is probably Indiannapolis, which is about three hours one way. So now, you're talking possibly two days vacation for travel, depending on when the show falls. There's only another handful of cities past that before I pretty much need to get on a plane. And that's the Midwest- go farther west, and it gets even worse.

I know of Springsteen fans who have seen over a hundred shows and never had to take a day off from work or get a hotel thanks to where they live- I'm not so lucky. Last year, he didn't play any shows in New Jersey or New York City, and some of them were quite in shock when they had to get in the car for a few hours if they wanted to see him. :lol: (The closest he came to Chicago was Cincinatti, five hours away by car.)

At the end of the day this particular topic is one that Meat can't win - a decision is made to not play in a certain area (in this case the UK) and he gets the backlash like we've seen over the last few days.

Meat DOES play here and it's "Hey! You said Last At Bat was the farewell tour! I sold my house, my car and my kids to see you one last time and now you're back!" - people end up pi$$ed either way.

Thankfully he does have an exceptional legion of loyal fans who will understand, respect and support the decision, but the poor guy is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

Indeed he does, and whilst I have no time for the very few who were negative or rude, I waded through the responses that night and the new ones the nest morning, and I think the negative numbered around 10-15 .. the total before the thread was taken down were around 3,500. That's a lot of heartfelt thanks and love for the many years he has bust his ass for us on stage :D

That's gotta be a bunch of freaking ugly kids, if you just got enough money out of them to visit one show. :shock:

*or am I missing the point* :lol:

That sums it up perfectly.

Exactly. Circumstances change. When Meat did the Mad Mad World Tour here in the USA, I was extremely lucky that he did several shows on the East Coast (within 2 hours of where I live) and it was relatively easy to travel to them. Also, we still had our store, and I was essentially my own boss :-) I had more freedom than I do now and could have take 2 days to travel to places like Nashville or Boston to see his show because I knew my Mom could run the store while I was away.

Now that I've started working at Walgreens, I have to check with my Manager to see if I can schedule the time off before making any plans. It's our busy season coming up (with the holidays), so I was only able to schedule the time off to go to the show in Bethlehem, PA.

Fingers crossed things will calm down a little at work in the summer and I'll be able to schedule time off to see several shows if Meat tours again. I'm not complaining in the least ... just extremely grateful that I'm getting to see Meat again and I also have a great job that I really love :D

This is it. I fully agree with everything you said here. The last line in your comment sums it all up. He is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!!

Meat has just posted on Facebook that he's changed his mind about coming back to the UK for concerts.

? where ?

It wasn't an announcement, but in two of his responses to questions in a long thread. He said he's changed his mind:

"Don't worry changed my mind, I am coming back. M" was one of them. With over 1700 replies on the thread it's easy to miss;) The intent is there, so we now have to wait and see how his busy schedule pans out

I really think this is a mistake. the farewell tour was a great finale over there why tarnish it

It feels like hes only going back cause too many complained... NOT GOOD

To be fair though, the race course gigs weren't really part of LAB so he has technically been back after LAB.

A new album? A new tour? ( what a shock ):D

Not to put too fine a point on it .. balls! You can obviously decline to go to a show if he dos more in the USA after next summer ;) Most here will simply be delighted .. plus you don't know what he's thinking of doing anyway.

People here were sad .. the vast majority made no complaint, just expressed thanks for all the years and sorrow that a door had been closed. The door is now open, and any theatre or venue will be filled if he comes back, and nothing will tarnish anything he has done .. what he does next will shine brightly and delight all his fans here ..

The Last At Bat shows were magnificent, but Meat was hobbling about like a cripple. Perhaps he wants his fans to see him with a fully functioning body one last time? And give them the opportunity to see a few new songs?

It's a two edged sword imo, it's great news!! Another chance to see Meat, although I could see this happening a mile away. But I hope he does not over do it, a few shows here and there would be best imo, keep him fresh for each show. He puts so much into every show. But great news:D

Meats concerts are like plays orca movie to go back would be a needless anticlimactic after credits scene.

Actually Wario, I think he made that response to prevent more complaints.

I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't tour the UK again. Perhaps a few loose shows as he mentioned a while back.

We did have a great tour in 2013. So if Meat decides to play overseas I think it would be great if he skipped the 2013 places and headed for the Scandinavian countries and some eastern Europe countries. Lots of great fans there that couldn't attend the shows in the UK or Germany. I wish they can say goodbye to Meat in the same way the people in the Netherlands got to in 2013.

WARIO your ignorance is outstanding sometimes

Tacky simile imo. Meat was limping .. and as he has not had surgery on his foot I expect he will be limping still .. but delivering with undiminished passion and an energy that would put many younger artists to shame. My choice would be to get to a show and see the whole performance rather than worry about him limping.

Meat's shows are an evening of spectacular musical entertainment, and each song like a scene from a play. I don't recall Olivier thinking he had to throw in the towel after playing Hamlet.

Orca lasted one movie ;) .. Batman seems to spawn many .. you don't seem to be stopping at one yourself :-P

I'm not ignorant I just think different

You guys got a kickass your and kickass setlist

It couldn't be replicated and won't this fall. What the LAB tour was magical and a good end to the out of country tours.

Him coming back just cause people complained is terrible.

I was just so fed up seeing the posts asking to go back to the UK

If he comes back good for everyone! But anything he does will just feel anticlimactic unless there's a DVD recorded

Warrio, it won't be replicated this autumn in the USA because he's not doing LAB .. but he's said he will be doing it next summer for 4 months. The setlist CAN be replicated .. it's a selection as an introduction followed by BOOH in its entirety .. nothing there than can't be replicated. The atmosphere of course is up to the fans who go.

You can read Meat's mind, so you know he is only coming back because people "complained"? (Most, the vast majority, did not btw .. most of those 3.5K posts said Thank you for all the years .. but please come back again if you can.) You're sick of fans in the UK asking him to come back? I don't complain about Americans asking him to come to every state and city in the USA .. it's what fans DO for f sake.

And it may feel an anti-climax to you .. but that doesn't mean it will be for most of us .. just as R&C wasn't an anti-climax when we travelled to Vegas. So I'm sorry that should Meat give you Last at Bat next year on an "in country tour", and then decide to do another one afterwards you will be disappointed, think Meat makes poor decisions, and presumably not attend .. but allow others to get excited here now .. and should that happen in the USA I'm sure a lot will be so there too!

PS These "out of country" islands have followed him steadily throughout his career .. He never had to make a "comeback" here .. and will always be welcome. This is btw the UK fan forum ;)

I think it's a matter of opinion as to whether any new UK show will feel like an anti-climax after Last At Bat and I believe that many people will just be delighted to have another chance to see Meat Loaf again.

I don't necessarily believe that these shows will change how many people felt about Last at Bat, I don't think Last at Bat will affect people's enjoyment of the new show any more than Last at Bat was influenced by the Hang Cool shows.

I laughed WAAAAAAY HARDER than I should have at that

Speaking of the US fall shows, I'm finding it hard to imagine what's coming? Meat has already said on FB that he won't be debuting Braver songs on this run. If it was a touring version of the Vegas show I suppose it would be billed as such, likewise if it was LAB.

LAB would have been a good choice I would have thought if it was a longer run. The video presentation is already there to go, it's guaranteed to sell well and Meat has repeatedly expressed interest in doing that show in the US. If there is indeed a Braver tour next year, you'd be looking at 2017 for US LAB at the earliest, which seems a stretch.

I'm imagining these shows will be along the lines of Casa De Carne. Hits and covers. Other than a straight Greatest Hits set (in which case he may as well just do LAB!) I can't imagine what else it could be.

He has already said the big tour next summer in the US/Canada will be their Last at Bat .. so it will be the good choice then. I tend to see the short run in autumn as a means of getting back on stage again after his surgeries, which prevented him from doing the long summer run he had initially planned for this year, getting the band together and getting his stage mojo tuned up again :-) And it is something for all those fans who were expecting a farewell tour this year in the USA

It wouldn't surprise me if they are more along the line of the 'Races' shows he did after LAB in the UK. In a month we will all know for sure though :-)