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ajf33 13 Sep 2016 19:19

Team rock rate Meats Albums worst to best
 
Has anyone seen this? http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-09-...-worst-to-best

Do they Hate meat, or just miss the point altogether?

anotherday 13 Sep 2016 19:30

Garbage. Absolute garbage.

ThatWriterGuy 13 Sep 2016 19:33

This reads more like someone's blog than a music 'article'. 'It's All Coming Back To Me Know', huh? Must've been a bonus track ...

anotherday 13 Sep 2016 19:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy (Post 617655)
This reads more like someone's blog than a music 'article'. 'It's All Coming Back To Me Know', huh? Must've been a bonus track ...

I personally like "Sand in the Storm" myself. What a cracking track!

letsgotoofar 13 Sep 2016 19:43

I find it hard to disagree with some of their rankings, but the attitude and the snarky tone are absolutely unnecessary. I don't understand why reviewers today feel like they have to be above the music they review somehow.

ThatWriterGuy 13 Sep 2016 19:46

It has ceased to be about reviewing music, sadly, and is all about 'I' -- see also: the next level of the American Dream ('mental real estate').

letsgotoofar 13 Sep 2016 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy (Post 617660)
It has ceased to be about reviewing music, sadly, and is all about 'I' -- see also: the next level of the American Dream ('mental real estate').

You're alright, mister.

Danny L 13 Sep 2016 19:48

Can't say how I agree, good lord. Here's' my go:

1: Bat2
2: BTWA
3: Bat
4: CHSIB
5: Dead Ringer
6: Bat3
7: Welcome to the Neighbourhood
8: Bad Attitude
9: Hang Cool
10: Handbasket
11: MATLAF
12: Blind Before I Stop
13: Stoney (barely even heard it!)

loaferman61 13 Sep 2016 20:32

How can I take an article seriously from an author named " Sleazegrinder"? I mean that is OK if you are just posting on a message board, but I wouldn't post an article on a site using my message board name. Loaferman61 just doesn't have that gravitas an article should have.

letsgotoofar 13 Sep 2016 20:51

Re: the author's name... a lot of websites are attempting deliberately to cultivate an informal feel, and I think that's owed to the success of sites like Cracked and The Onion's A.V. Club. It's a new trend that will hopefully pass.

chairboys 13 Sep 2016 20:57

Sleazegrinder has been a reviewer in Classic Rock magazine for many a year so I guess his opinion/ view is as valid as the next guy. This months edition did give BTWA a "very good" score but it was, unsurprisingly, rated by someone else.
Classic Rock is always a good read and there is an excellent four page spread on Meat in this copy but, like everywhere else, the readers ( judging by their comments) don't always agree with the"expert" contributors.

AndrewG 13 Sep 2016 20:58

Shite.

ashkent7 13 Sep 2016 21:06

Once again i can't get past the fact they mis-spell a title that is in the embedded video next to their writing (I'm talking about Sand in the Storm).

And apparently Neighborhood had no hits of note. A UK number 2 (only just beaten by Babylon Zoo who may have won that battle but disappeared so quickly compared to Meat who has continued on for over 2 decades since) with I'd Lie for You, and I seem to remember (but could be wrong) somewhere around number 8 with Not a Dry Eye. I wouldn't say that was "no hits of note" for the mid-90s.

And will it really pass? Everyone thinks if they post a cobbled together, badly informed couple of paragraphs on any website that makes them a reviewer. If it saves someone having to pay an actual reviewer to do it, then i have a bad feeling there is a lot more of drivel reporting to come. :(

ThatWriterGuy 13 Sep 2016 21:12

Yeah ... Babylon Zoo who were on TV CONSTANTLY thanks to that damn LEVI ADVERT. I'm sure that had nothing to do with sending the song to no.1 though:bleh:

PanicLord 13 Sep 2016 21:22

Ah now this is a good game, I can do this:

1: Bat
2: Dead Ringer
3: Bat 2
4: Hang Cool
5: Bat 3
6: WTTN

7: BTWA (here for the moment until I can decide where it fits after a few more listens!)

8: MATLAF
9: Handbasket
10: Bad Attitude
11: CHSIB
12: Blind Before I Stop
13: Stoney (only for lack of listens!)

stretch37 13 Sep 2016 21:25

Right now:


1. Braver Than We Are
2. Hell In a Handbasket
3. Couldn't Have Said It Better
4. Bat Out Of Hell 3
5. Hang Cool Teddy Bear
6. Live with the MSO
7. Welcome To The Neighbourhood

I don't have an interest in Bat 1 or Bat 2 or Dead Ringer or BBIS as recorded on the albums....I would have to rank Meat's live interpretations of the amazing songs from those albums since then...

ThatWriterGuy 13 Sep 2016 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 617679)
I don't have an interest in Bat 1 or Bat 2 or Dead Ringer or BBIS

Get out.


:-P

loaferman61 13 Sep 2016 21:36

1: Bat
2: Bat 2
3: BTWA
4: CHSIB
5: WTTN
6 Dead Ringer
7. Bad Attitude
8. Bat 3
9. HCTB
10: HIAH
11: MATLAF
12: Blind Before I Stop
13: Stoney

stretch37 13 Sep 2016 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy (Post 617681)
Get out.


:-P

YOU LEFT OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE SENTENCE :-P

On the recorded versions!!! :twisted:

I love the songs, I love hearing them live. The albums sound old as ~~~~ to me.

:twisted:

ThatWriterGuy 13 Sep 2016 21:41

1. Bat II
2. Bat
3. Dead Ringer
4. Braver Than We Are
5. Bad Attitude
6. Welcome To The Neighborhood
7. Bat III
8. CHSIB
9. BBIS
10. MATLAF
11. HCTB
12. HIAH

ThatWriterGuy 13 Sep 2016 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 617684)
YOU LEFT OUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THE SENT --

Yeah, it was intentional

:-P

MarkS 13 Sep 2016 21:49

My opinions...10-12 do nothing for me at all, so consider 9 my least favorite of the albums that I actually listen to

1. Bat
2. HCTB
3. Bat II
4. CHSIB
5. HIAH
6. WTTN
7. Bat III
8. Braver
9. Dead Ringer
10. MATLAF
11. BBIS
12. Bad Attitude

AndrewG 13 Sep 2016 21:50

1. Bat out of Hell 2
2. Bat out of Hell
3. Braver Than We Are
4. Couldn't Have Said it Better
5. Bat out of Hell 3
6. Dead Ringer
7. Welcome To The Neighbourhood
8. Bad Attitude
9. Blind Before I stop
10. Midnight At The Lost And Found
11. Hell In a Handbasket
12. Hang Cool Teddy Bear

Top songs (not just Meat Loaf but out of absolutely Everything...)
1. Bat out of Hell
2. I'd do Anything For Love (But I Won't Do That)
3. Going All The Way Is Just The Start
4. Paradise By The Dashboard Light
5. For Crying Out Loud
6. More Than You Deserve
7. Thunder Road
8. Born To Run
9. Scenes From an Italian Restaurant
10. Objects in the Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are
etc....

stretch37 13 Sep 2016 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy (Post 617686)
Yeah, it was intentional

:-P

bahahaha

2jaxx 13 Sep 2016 21:55

What's very positive to read, on the other hand, is his appreciation for HCTB. Typically, for reviewers of that type, HCTB would rank somewhere on the lower places. But read his review. It's really enthusiastic!

glockenspiel 13 Sep 2016 22:00

The article represents an eccentric point of view, to be sure. Not quite sure what the rationale was for rating BTWA so lowly, and yet HCTB so highly, for instance. And if you're going to include 'Stoney and Meat Loaf', then you might as well thrown in 'Free For All', too ... I have no objection to a good rant when it is well thought-out, but this could have done with a re-draft or two ... I would also mention my general agreement with the assessment of BBIS, but I best not go into that, lest I upset Wario ... :-)

ashkent7 13 Sep 2016 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 617684)
I love the songs, I love hearing them live. The albums sound old as ~~~~ to me.

:twisted:

I get the old thing on Bat...sometimes i just want more depth that wasn't around in 70s recordings... and Dead Ringer's production again lacked depth for me but Bat 2 is timeless to my ears. Jim's production on it makes it impossible to tie it down to a time period whereas you can tell the others were from the decades they were.

And i love the live versions as well :-)

duke knooby 13 Sep 2016 22:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatWriterGuy (Post 617673)
Yeah ... Babylon Zoo who were on TV CONSTANTLY thanks to that damn LEVI ADVERT. I'm sure that had nothing to do with sending the song to no.1 though:bleh:

tuesday random boring fact... that advert was broadcast on ch4, in the adverts just before Meat Loaf, live in the neighbourhood was broadcast :-P

stretch37 13 Sep 2016 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashkent7 (Post 617701)
I get the old thing on Bat...sometimes i just want more depth that wasn't around in 70s recordings... and Dead Ringer's production again lacked depth for me but Bat 2 is timeless to my ears. Jim's production on it makes it impossible to tie it down to a time period whereas you can tell the others were from the decades they were.

And i love the live versions as well :-)

Actually, you know what? Age really has nothing to do with that. I don't even know why I said that.

I listen to Orgasmatron (Motorhead) and the original album "Black Sabbath" just fine, in fact I'll put the entire catalog of Dio, Rainbow, Sabbath or Motorhead on and I enjoy different aspects of both the newer and older stuff.

I fell in love with Meat after hearing CHISB and MSO...That is my first impression of all of those songs.

So what it comes down to is that I honestly don't think I have given Bat 1 and Bat 2 much of a chance on their own. (Similar to what some are doing with Braver Than We Are).

I've got to do that one day. Just try to erase all of the other versions I "grew up on" and try the originals.

It's hard with Meat though...Harder for me than it was to open up to older Motorhead or Sabbath...

Reminds me of Star Trek. I worked my way back to watching as old as TNG, but I can't watch the TOS...It bothers me. Some things just don't age well, like the original Doctor Who series. I just can't watch it...I think sometimes you just have to grow up with it to still want to watch it. I grew up with my dad watching TNG...I can't say that that's my issue with Bat 1 or Bat 2 though. They have aged well. They're kind of timeless.

There's just a blocker there. I'd love to investigate further one day. I probably will.

ThatWriterGuy 13 Sep 2016 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretch37 (Post 617707)

Reminds me of Star Trek. I worked my way back to watching as old as TNG, but I can't watch the TOS...It bothers me. Some things just don't age well, like the original Doctor Who series. I just can't watch it...I think sometimes you just have to grow up with it to still want to watch it. I grew up with my dad watching TNG...

'Young people ...' :-P You just listed all the things I like the most.

proctorloaf 13 Sep 2016 23:03

This site gave Braver than we are 4/5 stars. So if 4/5 stars is the worse album just image how many stars Bat out of Hell must get LOL

http://teamrock.com/review/2016-08-3...iclePosition=4

stretch37 13 Sep 2016 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by proctorloaf (Post 617709)
This site gave Braver than we are 4/5 stars. So if 4/5 stars is the worse album just image how many stars Bat out of Hell must get LOL

http://teamrock.com/review/2016-08-3...iclePosition=4

Yeah something's just not right.

Conspiracy theories - GO.

Meat Loaf_fan 14 Sep 2016 16:59

This article is a :shit:
The writer don't know everything about the Meat albums. :evil: If he knows, then the article should be much, much, much more positive.

Wario 14 Sep 2016 18:01

Very short inaccurate descriptions for a few albums. He probably didn't listen to.

BBIS that low is an insult. As is CHSIB.

NightAngel 15 Sep 2016 03:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajf33 (Post 617652)
Has anyone seen this? http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-09-...-worst-to-best

Do they Hate meat, or just miss the point altogether?

Miss the point.... totally. Ridiculous!
:mad:

melon 16 Sep 2016 19:40

What a crock

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